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    Default Re: Tinkering with or Stealing one's soul

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    There is a lot information about Souls. I have been researching and looking around in the Internet, English and Spanish. There are lots of blogs, forums, web sites, pages, with same info. You just google the right words. I got 439,000 results in 0.77 seconds. I have been in many of them; and yes, almost all agree on the subject that THERE IS a big LIE...someone have been lyeing to us (reptilian race).
    Respectfully you use the plural ie souls.
    Yes we have been miss led but the misleadings is in the concept of separation--duality.
    If you can believe the reality of one-ness then there is only One without a second as spoken of by all Mystics--all else is the illusion of separation//Maya.
    So the thought that tinkering with one's soul is possible is therefore built on a false premise.

    The Creator became all that is without loosing singularity--only God is and you are that.
    Takes a lot of believing but serious study of enlightenment--Self realization will bring you to that conclusion quite quickly.

    Bad guys out to get you---seems we are brought up on this---now in who's interest is it to promote fear?

    Chris
    There are two things that paralyzes people from going and encounter the truth about the so called "reality" we live in: ... "belief systems" and "fear". There is no heaven and no hell in the Afterlife, not as the "belief systems" had taught us. There are humans with Souls, and they donīt appreciate them as a gift from Source (God). There are also humans "without" souls (sociopaths, psychopaths, satan worshipers, and some are even ETīs in a human "biological computer"). And there are Starseeds, who are in this Earth to help HUMANS with SOULS... and help the future of this Earth. We need to come out of our "mental programs".
    Im smiling---Truth is not a belief system.

    "The Truth will set you free"
    "The Father and I are One"
    "Of myself I do nothing it is the Father within me"
    Now who said these things?

    He also said we can do more than he did.

    Now where is the fear in freedom that Truth gives one?

    You can discover all kinds of belief systems on the Internet--you can find whatever you look for and you are entitled to do that.
    Many of these beliefs are fear related as to what aliens can do to you.

    Jesus and the mystics speak of freedom truth and love--where is the fear in love?
    Mystics do not speak of heaven or hell either--religion does--the path of enlightenment is not a religion--it get you to ask the question--"Who am I?
    When you find that Truth there is no fear--
    The discovery that you are not the body removes virtually all fear.

    I agree that we should appreciate life that the Creator has given us.

    The word soul is used in different contexts with different meanings.
    You could say that temporally we have a body and a seemingly separate spirit.

    There is nowhere that God is not---Omni potent--omni present-- God became all that is without diminishing His self
    So God is within all--and the essence of all is God---in every atom--the totality all of it.

    So this is where I am coming from--you dont have to believe anything I have said--thats free will--choice.

    Best wishes
    Chris
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    Default Re: Tinkering with or Stealing one's soul

    If you look at the belief that ones soul can be stolen or tinkered with, is that not a frightening thought?
    Nothing I have posted would promote fear.

    God which is just one name for the Creator---being within all life ,is not going to be stolen or tinkered with before or after the leaving of the body--ie what is called death.

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    Default Re: Tinkering with or Stealing one's soul

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    If you look at the belief that ones soul can be stolen or tinkered with, is that not a frightening thought?
    Nothing I have posted would promote fear.

    God which is just one name for the Creator---being within all life ,is not going to be stolen or tinkered with before or after the leaving of the body--ie what is called death.

    Chris
    Iīm sorry. I apologize for hurting your sensitive view. To me, "a belief system" is against truth and reality, is like an ilusion. When we feel our ilusion is threatened, thatīs when "fear" comes to close our mind. I know, I have been there; I was brought up as a catholic, and I remember "fear" from becoming a "sinner" even as a small child. Those kind of religious belief systems is what I am talking about. I donīt need indoctrination and I donīt think I am "promoting fear". I thought Avalon was a place where you could express yourself as an open minded, intelligent and mature adult.

    Thatīs my personal opinion.
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    Default Re: Tinkering with or Stealing one's soul

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    If you look at the belief that ones soul can be stolen or tinkered with, is that not a frightening thought?
    Nothing I have posted would promote fear.

    God which is just one name for the Creator---being within all life ,is not going to be stolen or tinkered with before or after the leaving of the body--ie what is called death.

    Chris
    Iīm sorry. I apologize for hurting your sensitive view. To me, "a belief system" is against truth and reality, is like an ilusion. When we feel our ilusion is threatened, thatīs when "fear" comes to close our mind. I know, I have been there; I was brought up as a catholic, and I remember "fear" from becoming a "sinner" even as a small child. Those kind of religious belief systems is what I am talking about. I donīt need indoctrination and I donīt think I am "promoting fear". I thought Avalon was a place where you could express yourself as an open minded, intelligent and mature adult.

    Thatīs my personal opinion.
    Ines Im not hurt just concerned---Many that read the threads here are young people and religion spreads enough fear without giving people the belief inherent in the thought that the soul can be tinkered with.

    Enlightenment is first hand experience and Truth --not out of books or found on the INTERNET.

    Avalon is open and I have mentioned freewill,
    I have been a member since it began and have seen this kind of topic come and go.

    If you are open minded have a look at this thread.

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post456904

    or

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...ull=1#post7764

    The second one gets over three thousand visits a week---so the idea of enlightenment is shared by many looking for freedom from illusion.

    Of course you are very free to believe what you want and can express your self here to your hearts content.

    Best wishes
    Chris
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    Default Re: Tinkering with or Stealing one's soul

    Hoping to clarify
    There is Ultimate Truth and relative truth.
    Within relative truth there is A1, mind control and other similar issues.
    These belong and are at home in threads other than the spiritual section in those threads they are much discussed.
    They are part of the illusion-- in spiritual terms they are Maya.

    David Icke who has a foot in both camps relative truth and Ultimate Truth says " Only unconditional Love is real all else is an illusion"

    Now when you are shown relative and Ultimate you have freedom to decide which you wish to spend time with.As Jesus recommended you can "Wear this world like a loose garment"

    Best wishes
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