Seas aren’t just rising, the rise is accelerating [Debunked]

[KiwiElf]

The "greenies" tried a similar doom & gloom in NZ a few years back as "proof", where in combination with a rare full Moon & a King Tide, sea water (for ONE DAY) rose higher than normal levels, sending all the real-estate agents - (who were trying to sell over-priced beach properties) - into a frenzy

[amor]

Remember the pyramids and structures around Cuba found to have seemingly gently sunk into the waters? There are underground gasses as well as an underground ocean; all sorts of things swelling and shrinking and moving far underground which could account for land subsideance.

[Arpheus]

I stopped reading at the part that said according to Nasa LOL who the hell trust any info coming from nasa that frequents this website?Anything that comes from nasa is a lie gimme a break heh!

[TargeT]

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I think "climate change" (modern)"feminism" and "Black lives matter" are the three major INJECTED social destabilizing / control movements of our time.... (though the latter two are minor and far more divide and conquer oriented when compared to the first)


we are certainly in an "info war"... and we seem to be winning.

[KiwiElf]

The April earthquake in Japan is good evidence of this; that particular land mass was displaced laterally and upwardly by several meters. Any landmass or group of islands in the ring of fire are going to be subjected to rising and falling over a period of time. It's not climate change or global warming,.. just good ol' "nature".

Amor brings up a very relevent point about ancient rising and falling of landmasses under water, which extends even further.

If anyone remembers a great documentary, The Mystery of the Sphinx from 1993, narrated by Charlton Heston and featuring Richard Hoagland, John Anthony-West theorised (and virtually proved) - much to the disdain of the general geologic scientific community and historical dogma - that the whole area of Giza (The pyramids and Sphinx), had at some stage, been under water.

(Also a brilliant tie-in to the Sphinx, Atlantis and the Face on Cydonia, Mars by Hoagland - Who inspired the Egyptians in the first place? - The sinking of Atlantis & the Hoagland Mars tie-in bit starts around 1:12:00 )



Attached below for those who haven't seen it.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=SbUsGnMUH2Y

[Lifebringer]

Here comes the ice-age?

[Lifebringer]

No hoax. Simple science of evaporation and temp and pole shifting. More fresh water melting in the oceans, slows the current belt and as the oceans heat up the evaporation to the clouds presents more heavier rain fall. The winds carry it to a more suitable drop off nation and flooding begins. Then winter hits and the moisture now turns to heavier snowfalls that fall longer and increase in the colder regions thereby expanding lower into the lower states, suppressing the growing season on both sides with early longer winters and early harvest to possibly only one crop reaping, if we're lucky before rapid weather changes of drought or freeze are so close, you can't grow, unless it's inside greenhouse and co-opting where families share whatever they grow to maintain a proper intake of vitamins. But yes, the rapid changes in night and day temps can also destroy crops by confusing them of season. Ask any farmer, why he dreads that groundhog seeing it's shadow. Late crops, short harvest season. With food scarcity, this could become a problem if as I said, co-ops of community crops grown inside green houses with their own supply of bees/wildflowers to pollinate and of course, the proper temperature for bees, butterflies and fruit flies.

[Lifebringer]

Posted by WhiteLove (here)
The value of oil has dropped by -70% during the last 8.5 years, we are moving into a new era of energy. Once the Oil and all of its links collapse, there is going to be enough room for some substantial amounts of positive change. Maybe the banks will collapse on a global scale, how about that. (high octane speculation of course)

It's been 7.5 years. Gas prices bordered 3.80 per gallon, in the mid-Atlantic regions 2008. After Dems put a law on speculation of oil prices, the prices on WS started to drop. It's now 1.80 per gallon here, so you see how long we got "bilked by bush/Shub."

[TargeT]

Posted by Lifebringer (here)
No hoax. Simple science of evaporation and temp and pole shifting.

I think the sun is MUCH MORE influential. "green house gasses" seem to have nothing to do with it since c02 used to be MUCH more prevalent earlier in history with no equatable rise in average temperatures.

Posted by Lifebringer (here)
It's been 7.5 years. Gas prices bordered 3.80 per gallon, in the mid-Atlantic regions 2008. After Dems put a law on speculation of oil prices, the prices on WS started to drop. It's now 1.80 per gallon here, so you see how long we got "bilked by bush/Shub."

I HIGHLY doubt that is why oil prices went down...HIGHLY.

Saudi Arabia, the largest OPEC exporter, would have to be part of any plan to change the OPEC strategy of letting the market set prices. That strategy, master-minded by Saudi, was adopted by the Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries in November 2014. The policy preceded another big downdraft in prices.

http://www.cnbc.com/2016/08/10/saudi...-cut-back.html

Why The Russian Economy Rises and Falls With Oil
Russia is a major player in oil and gas production worldwide. It is the second largest producer of natural gas and the third largest producer of oil, sitting on 80 billion barrels of proven oil reserves and a staggering 1688 trillion cubic feet of natural gas reserves—the largest natural gas reserves in the world. Given the size of Russia’s oil and gas assets and its position in world production, there is little doubt that oil and gas prices have a large impact on its economy. In this article, we will analyze the impact of oil prices, both high and low, on the Russian economy.

The Hydrocarbon Empire

In recent years, oil and gas revenues have made up nearly half of Russia’s national budget.

http://www.investopedia.com/articles...#ixzz4H9CjAvpc

I see a strong case for economic warfare against russia.. using OPEC and US production to drown the market out.

[Bob]

I agree completely - VWD !

I think the sun is MUCH MORE influential. "green house gasses" seem to have nothing to do with it since c02 used to be MUCH more prevalent earlier in history with no equatable rise in average temperatures.

[Atlas]

Posted by Althena (here)
Ice age coming, now seas are rising, global warming is a real, global warming is a hoax, which one is it then?

Posted by Lifebringer (here)
Here comes the ice-age?

New Ice Age Approaching

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=1Mxvr72pp2Q

[Hervé]

Ice age it is:

Irregular heartbeat of the Sun driven by double dynamo

Published on Thursday, 09 July 2015 08:17
Last Updated on Thursday, 09 July 2015 12:41

Date: July 9, 2015Source: Royal Astronomical Society (RAS)Summary:
A new model of the Sun's solar cycle is producing unprecedentedly accurate predictions of irregularities within the Sun's 11-year heartbeat. The model draws on dynamo effects in two layers of the Sun, one close to the surface and one deep within its convection zone. Predictions from the model suggest that solar activity will fall by 60 per cent during the 2030s to conditions last seen during the 'mini ice age' that began in 1645.

Montage of images of solar activity between August 1991 and September 2001. Credit: Yohkoh/ISAS/Lockheed-Martin/NAOJ/U. Tokyo/NASA. Click for a full-size image

A new model of the Sun’s solar cycle is producing unprecedentedly accurate predictions of irregularities within the Sun’s 11-year heartbeat. The model draws on dynamo effects in two layers of the Sun, one close to the surface and one deep within its convection zone. Predictions from the model suggest that solar activity will fall by 60 per cent during the 2030s to conditions last seen during the ‘mini ice age’ that began in 1645. Results will be presented today by Prof Valentina Zharkova at the National Astronomy Meeting in Llandudno.

It is 172 years since a scientist first spotted that the Sun’s activity varies over a cycle lasting around 10 to 12 years. But every cycle is a little different and none of the models of causes to date have fully explained fluctuations. Many solar physicists have put the cause of the solar cycle down to a dynamo caused by convecting fluid deep within the Sun. Now, Zharkova and her colleagues have found that adding a second dynamo, close to the surface, completes the picture with surprising accuracy.

“We found magnetic wave components appearing in pairs, originating in two different layers in the Sun’s interior. They both have a frequency of approximately 11 years, although this frequency is slightly different, and they are offset in time. Over the cycle, the waves fluctuate between the northern and southern hemispheres of the Sun. Combining both waves together and comparing to real data for the current solar cycle, we found that our predictions showed an accuracy of 97%,” said Zharkova.

Zharkova and her colleagues derived their model using a technique called ‘principal component analysis’ of the magnetic field observations from the Wilcox Solar Observatory in California. They examined three solar cycles-worth of magnetic field activity, covering the period from 1976-2008. In addition, they compared their predictions to average sunspot numbers, another strong marker of solar activity. All the predictions and observations were closely matched.

Looking ahead to the next solar cycles, the model predicts that the pair of waves become increasingly offset during Cycle 25, which peaks in 2022. During Cycle 26, which covers the decade from 2030-2040, the two waves will become exactly out of synch and this will cause a significant reduction in solar activity.

“In cycle 26, the two waves exactly mirror each other – peaking at the same time but in opposite hemispheres of the Sun. Their interaction will be disruptive, or they will nearly cancel each other. We predict that this will lead to the properties of a ‘Maunder minimum’,” said Zharkova. “Effectively, when the waves are approximately in phase, they can show strong interaction, or resonance, and we have strong solar activity. When they are out of phase, we have solar minimums. When there is full phase separation, we have the conditions last seen during the Maunder minimum, 370 years ago.”

https://www.ras.org.uk/news-and-pres...-double-dynamo


See also this post (<---)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=7sh_nlz43Pc

[Bob]

Absolutely Hervé , very well done !! Thank you - after reading some of the absolute nonsense appearing elsewhere (sigh) with some absolutely ludicrous threads, this is refreshing - thanks..

[giovonni]

Whatever is causing it - Get ready for the change ...

As i was told intuitively before moving out West ...
Best to dress/prepare for both hot and cold.

Gio

[Hervé]

This point from post # 32 cannot be overemphasized:

... the waves fluctuate between the northern and southern hemispheres of the Sun. Combining both waves together and comparing to real data for the current solar cycle, we found that our predictions showed an accuracy of 97%,” said Zharkova.

That's real science!

Because their theoretical model, derived from facts, can predict other data - not yet observed - with a 97% accuracy... mind blowing!

[Camilo]

Native Alaskan Village Forced to Move due to Climate Change

http://www.unknowncountry.com/news/n...climate-change

The erosion of the shoreline of Alaska's Sarichef Island from rising sea levels has prompted the residents of the island's village of Shishmaref to decide to relocate, before their traditional island home is overcome by the sea.

Home to 650 Inupiat Inuit, Sarichef Island lies in the Chukchi Sea, just north of the Bering Strait, and like the rest of Alaska, is warming twice as fast as the contiguous states. Shishmaref is one of 31 Alaskan villages that are in danger from erosion and flooding, according to the US Government Accountability Office.

It is estimated that the relocation of Shishmaref could cost upwards of $180 million, but like many of the villages under threat, they may not qualify for the Department of Housing and Urban Development's Community Development Block Grant program, due to a lack of incorporation in their governing structures. The Department of the Interior has allocated $8 million for all communities that plan to relocate, although this is to be spread amongst the 12 villages that have already planned to move.

The residents of Shishmaref, as with other villages, are concerned over the potential impact the move may make on their traditional lifestyles. Regardless, the effect of rising ocean levels is dramatic, with the island having "lost about 100 feet" since 1997, according to resident Esau Sinnock: "In the past 15 years, we had to move 13 houses – including my dear grandma Edna's house – from one end of the island to the other because of this loss of land. Within the next two decades, the whole island will erode away completely." The steady loss of surface ice has also already impacted the islander's ability to hunt and fish, their primary source of food.

The United Nations Institute for Environment and Human Security and the International Organization for Migration estimates that climate change could displace as many as 200 million people worldwide by the middle of the century, although the residents of regions as far apart as Isle de Jean Charles, Louisiana, and villages in the Solomon Islands, are already facing this stark reality.

[Hervé]

The erosion of the shoreline of Alaska's Sarichef Island from rising sea levels

Whoever wrote that article is miscomprehending what's happening to that island: coastal EROSION!

It's shrinking, it's not being flooded!

Because, if it had anything to do with rising sea levels, the island would just be submerged with little erosion... yet, the highest elevation of the island is still 6 meters above sea level... go figure!

[TargeT]

Posted by Hervé (here)

The erosion of the shoreline of Alaska's Sarichef Island from rising sea levels

Whoever wrote that article is miscomprehending what's happening to that island: coastal EROSION!

It's shrinking, it's not being flooded!

Because, if it had anything to do with rising sea levels, the island would just be submerged with little erosion... yet, the highest elevation of the island is still 6 meters above sea level... go figure!

AND...

Posted by Camilo (here)
The erosion of the shoreline of Alaska's Sarichef Island from rising sea levels has prompted the residents of the island's village of Shishmaref to decide to relocate, before their traditional island home is overcome by the sea.
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like a huge AND No alaskan natives had "traditional homes"... ANYWHERE... W E forced them to "pick an address" so they could receive federal handouts ("hush" money?)... "traditionally" all native Alaskans were nomadic with seasonal fishing camps on the ocean and the tundra during the summer for hunting caribou etc..

WE forced them into those villages, they were NEVER intended to be long term locations as they were just seasonal fishing camps... It's one of the many examples of how government fails at everything, no matter what the original intentions were.

[Hervé]

So what’s new? Sea levels have been rising for 10,000 years

By Robert Felix September 4, 2016

This talk of unprecedented sea-level rise is complete nonsense.

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Today’s sea-level rise is BELOW normal

During the last ice age almost all of Canada, along with parts of Europe and Asia, were buried beneath one to two miles of ice. At the same time, sea levels stood 350 to 400 feet lower than today.

Sea levels were so low that the entire continental shelf, at least in eastern North America, was above water. Many states on the eastern seaboard were twice as big as today. New Jersey’s shoreline, for example, stood 60 to 100 miles east of its present location.

Same in the west.

The land between Alaska and Asia rose out of the sea like a bridge (or rather, the sea dropped away from the land), and the Bering Strait, which today is only 18 stories deep at its deepest point, was above water. Our ancestors could have walked to Siberia. (The word bridge is misleading, because the land connection between Alaska and Siberia was almost as wide as Alaska itself.)

Why were sea levels so low? Because that’s where the water came from to create those huge ice sheets. Literally millions of cubic miles of water had turned to ice.

Then, about 10,000 years ago, the ice began to melt and sea levels began to rise.

Here’s a sea-level graph from Nobel Laureate Ivar Giaever.

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Rising sea levels have been the norm
If you run the numbers (see below), you’ll find that sea levels have been rising an average of .42 to .48 inches (just under half-an-inch) per year for the past 10,000 years. Rising sea levels have been the norm, in other words, for 10,000 years.

And that brings us to today. What are sea levels doing right now?

Sea levels now rising slower than normal
According to NASA, sea levels are rising 3.24 mm (about 1/8th of an inch) per year. That’s about the thickness of two nickels stacked on top of each other. Not the diameter of the nickels, but the thickness, In other words, sea levels are rising slower than normal.

Sea levels declined in 2010 and 2011
That doesn’t even take into account the fact that sea levels declined in both 2010 and 2011.

Yes, no matter how assiduously the media tries to ignore it, sea levels actually declined in both of those years.

Where is the water going?

It’s being locked up on land as snow and ice. That’s how ice ages begin.

If we keep getting record snowfall as we have during the past few years, sea levels will begin falling and won’t begin rising again until the end of the next ice age.

This talk of unprecedented rising sea levels and catastrophic global warming is complete nonsense. It is just simply not true.

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It’s not rocket science. Try it yourself. Multiply 400 by 12 and you get 4,800. That’s how many inches in 400 feet (how far sea levels have risen in the past 10,000 years). Now divide 4,800 by 10,000, and you get .48, just under ½ inch.

Just under half-an-inch. That’s how much sea levels have been rising on average per year for the past 10,000 years.

Today, sea levels are rising only 1/8 of an inch per year, LESS than normal.

And we’re supposed to throw billions, if not trillions, of dollars at it? We’re supposed to destroy our economies over a non-issue?
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Robert Felix is author of Not by Fire but by Ice, in which he maintains that the next ice age could begin any day.

See www.iceagenow.info