NAZIS, NWO & the NEW AGE

[boutreality]

Blackdog-
wikipedia isn't always the most reliable source. If you check the vid posted in Truthster's "The Real Three Ruling Powers" thread, for about 40 mins starting at about the 2hr 58min mark, the story of Prescott Bush's and the Bush family's involvement is there. (A link to that thread is in this thread.)

Jayren-
The background's really in the first half of the opening post in the Scientology thread, but to be brief:

The top of the world's rulers know that they are participating in a "training program" to be made immortal.
Only those that commit enough evil, life after life, in a enclosed reincarnation system that serves only their members, can qualify. The span between worldwide ELE's (mostly ice ages) is the "qualification" term.
Newly made immortals form the "away" team, training to bring a newly built solar system under control of their influence.

Mind you, I'm not out to convince -it's best people go forward based on their own knowledge and skill set, even if that means I'm a crackpot by their estimation.
All my findings fit the same overarching paradigm, and I didn't 'force' any conclusion to fit.

Take my word there or don't. I think the issue when sorting out the truth is that not enough people engage an earnest discipline, and honestly "sit" with what they've found.

Expecting to find the truth through research alone amounts to having/ finding the whole thing at the end of some trail of evidence- that will never happen. I encourage people to strengthen their discernment skills and not be afraid to connect dots no "real researcher" would dream to.

Those people make those connections as part of what makes them a living and I'm grateful for that- I've chosen not to give my life to that style of inquiry, though I do regularly check into people like F-L-M's work regularly, even if it's just to find a new tidbit to tie to another tidbit.

To that end, the thread just stared yesterday by Spellbound to share a talk by Jim Marrs about the history of the ruling class is excellent by the way.

"Some old man's saying "Vote for me it ain't gonna be worse, well I hate to burst your bubble baby... It's gonna be worse." "Kurt Cobain" by Astronautalis

[blackdog]

Posted by boutreality (here)
Blackdog-
wikipedia isn't always the most reliable source. If you check the vid posted in Truthster's "The Real Three Ruling Powers" thread, for about 40 mins starting at about the 2hr 58min mark, the story of Prescott Bush's and the Bush family's involvement is there. (A link to that thread is in this thread.)

I'm not going to watch forty minutes of video when you could quickly summarize how they support your argument. Anyway, I've seen this Ring of Power video multiple times, and the first few minutes confirms what I said. Union Banking Corporation's assets were seized for trading with the enemy. However, I dont think the authors you mention, or anyone else I have read, suggest that Prescott Bush was ever charged or prosecuted. If you have evidence to the contrary, I would be interested in seeing it.

[Enola]

A good channeling!

http://sananda.website/adamu-the-ple...d-august-19th/

[boutreality]

Blackdog- I changed the language of that sentence to better reflect whats in the video. Even that might still be misrepresented. And Wikipedia historically isn't the most reliable source of info; in this case I'm sure it's accurate.

The point of this thread is that Nazis had/have a key hand in setting up and running the NWO and both rely on the New Age to covertly control the population.

To the researchers I name (FLM) the concept isn't new and I trust if anyone wants to vet the Nazi/NWO connection they need go no further than one or all three of those researchers.
Thank you for pointing out the discrepancy though.

Enola-
I don't spend any time at all on channeled messages; I stopped paying that sort of info any mind back when "ZETA TALK" was a new thing.
Maybe I'll check this one out, but it's not likely.

[Enola]

It's more like a behind-the-scenes political messages, talking about a possible economic collapse, I found it interesting to read.

[blackdog]

Posted by boutreality (here)
Blackdog- I changed the language of that sentence to better reflect whats in the video. Even that might still be misrepresented. And Wikipedia historically isn't the most reliable source of info; in this case I'm sure it's accurate.

The point of this thread is that Nazis had/have a key hand in setting up and running the NWO and both rely on the New Age to covertly control the population.

To the researchers I name (FLM) the concept isn't new and I trust if anyone wants to vet the Nazi/NWO connection they need go no further than one or all three of those researchers.
Thank you for pointing out the discrepancy though.

I have read most of the works of FLM. I'm not so sure the Nazis have a key role in setting up the NWO. They were certainly used in the process, and they were used to create Israel, which has major occult significance.

I think the new age is definitely important. If you are interested in that, you might want to look at this thread I started: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...wn-of-Aquarius

[boutreality]

You've read Rise of the Fourth Reich by Marrs; The Unholy Alliance books by Levenda; and The Nazi International by Farrell and you don't think Nazis had a key role in setting up the NWO?
The NWO owns the Islam/Israel dialectic justification for terrorism/warfare accomplished and triggered by false flag ops.

Really, if it's the same ideals pursued for nearly the same reasons, "This is Nazis and that is NWO" as far as I'm concerned, is paying attention to a crack in the drywall while all the windows are being bashed in.

The Scottish Rite used to be called "The New Age"! Wow! I look forward to looking more into that thread's info.

I really dedicate alot of my freetime to my discipline; less to these sorts of these endeavors though I do make it a point to be available for periods after I've recently started a thread here.

Thanks for the link

[blackdog]

Posted by boutreality (here)
You've read Rise of the Fourth Reich by Marrs; The Unholy Alliance books by Levenda; and The Nazi International by Farrell and you don't think Nazis had a key role in setting up the NWO?

Correct.

The NWO owns the Islam/Israel dialectic justification for terrorism/warfare accomplished and triggered by false flag ops.

Yes, I agree.

Really, if it's the same ideals pursued for nearly the same reasons, "This is Nazis and that is NWO" as far as I'm concerned, is paying attention to a crack in the drywall while all the windows are being bashed in.

The occult ideas would be similar. I thought your argument was that the Nazis are a strong force behind the NWO, but you are saying here that it doesnt matter? The idea of building a new world is similar, but these are different people, imo.

The Scottish Rite used to be called "The New Age"! Wow! I look forward to looking more into that thread's info.

Scottish Rite Magazine, yes. That was only information in support of the main theory, and I certainly found it surprising when I first heard it. You dont have to agree with it. I just thought you might be interested because of your interest in the new age.

What's with the attitude? I thought this was supposed to be a nicer forum.

I really dedicate alot of my freetime to my discipline; less to these sorts of these endeavors though I do make it a point to be available for periods after I've recently started a thread here.

Well, now I've spent time reading and looking into your information.

How were the Nazis involved in 9/11? Maybe you are saying that people like the Bush's are essentially Nazis? The Nazis still lost the war, even if some of them escaped. If the powers that be really wanted Nazism, they probably would have let them win. They definitely used Nazism and WWII for their own purposes. The occult ideas of a new world and a new age are involved, but I wouldnt call it Nazism. imo

[Bill Ryan]

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Hi, Folks -- just stepping in here to acknowledge the valuable thread topic, and the well-informed and interesting exchange of information and views.

(Thanks also for the answers to my question about von Braun, btw. I was aware of Carol Rosin, of course, but not that she'd stated that von Braun had put things in exactly that way. )

These very important issues can evoke some passionate views. I'd suggest we might all have something to gain here from a healthy (and friendly!) exchange of good information and perspectives. Let's listen well, at the same time as clearly stating what we think we understand.

It's far from a simple topic... for a start, just what a 'Nazi' is or was isn't even all that easy to define. My own [provisional!] view is that Nazi influence, like a totalitarian movement that might not at ALL be extinct, was and is predominant in certain high-level groups right up the present day.

I think it was Farrell (can anyone confirm?) who said -- heavily paraphrased -- that if Hitler had known everything that were to happen in the world after 1945, up to and including this year, Germany's political and financial dominance in Europe included... he'd have really been quite well satisfied.

[boutreality]

I've heard Farrell in interviews promoting his book "Nazi International" say something to that affect.

blackdog-
I'm not sure where you're picking up attitude from- certainly can't be from any of the quotes you parsed. I asked a question; you answered and I thank you.

To the extent that we're dealing with an elitist ideology where this group gets superb treatment for [blank] reasons and the rest aren't allowed, then yes the minutia of calling out a differentiation between the NWO and Nazis does not interest me. Some people serve the damaging paradigm; some don't.

Bush Jr. was president when 9/11 occurred, I'm not alone in thinking his administration had prior knowledge of the event. His administration orchestrated a response in line with a Nazi ideal- war in a region of the world destabilized as WW2 ended.

Here's a fifteen minute clip of Marrs addressing the Bush connection to Nazis. Bush Sr. was the first president to popularize the term New World Order.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZhMlYxPefyQ

Germany surrendered, Nazis didn't, scattering under Project Paperclip into Russia and the US. Not all of them were dyed in the wool Nazi party members, still about 60,000 came here if we are to believe Farrell's numbers, and world history played out as it did.
I admit it's an elaborate contention, here it is- the Nazis did this:

1) to rule from secret posts as they orchestrated the formation of key factions and played them against each other (the cold war & the War of Terror- the latter with the help of money interests in charge of redrawing the middle eastern map post WW2) while they

2) Advanced their weaponry, which makes use of their applications of the Unified Filed; weapons that work through sentient consciousness to make people unwitting conduits for this system of control so that its effects can be vectored into other people.

-New Age energies are the transmission medium. The protocols being sold as techniques "necessary for growth" are actually protocols that hand key portions of a person's sentience over to the Nazi weapons array.

They did this/are doing this on behalf of money interests making up the NWO.

An implied link to older interests; an agenda much older -ancient even, as far as I'm concerned chakras and things like what Farrell says about an ancient space war plays into this.
But I'm not holding my breath waiting for a researcher to lay that part out for us.

I feel that through my practice I've found that link. My other threads share some specific background info.

You don't have to agree with this; you might decide it doesn't warrant consideration.

I trust we are both fair minded people that won't lose sleep over this interchange.
I appreciate your thought provoking contributions.

Enola-
I do feel things are headed for improvement.
I can see how my default response to channeled information came across as inconsiderate and I apologize.

BE WELL

[blackdog]

Posted by boutreality (here)
To the extent that we're dealing with an elitist ideology where this group get superb treatment for [blank] reasons and the rest aren't allowed, then yes the minutia of calling out a differentiation between the NWO and Nazis does not interest me. Some people serve the damaging paradigm; some don't.

Perhaps that is our point of disagreement then. I wouldnt call the elites Nazis. If it's just a naming of the perpetrators that's the issue, then it's not a big deal I suppose.

Bush Jr. was president when 9/11 occurred, I'm not alone in thinking his administration had prior knowledge of the event. His administration orchestrated a response in line with a Nazi ideal- war in a region of the world destabilized as WW2 ended.

I agree that the Bush's and their network did 9/11. I just dont call it Nazism. It's different. The NWO was here well before the Nazis. The Zionists were here before the Nazis. The elites funded communism, too. They are behind Israel. You can find plenty of conspiracy theorists out there saying it is all about the communists or it is all about the Jews. It is all of these things because they are controlling most of the prominent movements from behind the scenes.

Here's a fifteen minute clip of Marrs addressing the Bush connection to Nazis. Bush Sr. was the first president to popularize the term New World Order.

Well here you have produced Jim Marrs stating that Prescott Bush was prosecuted. I'd be interested to see if he provided a source in his book for that information because I have never heard even Bush opponents saying this. In this article from The Guardian, which is admittedly unfocused, the author says that UBC's assets may even have been returned after the war:

From https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...secondworldwar :

"Jones recommended that the assets be liquidated for the benefit of the government, but instead UBC was maintained intact and eventually returned to the American shareholders after the war. Some claim that Bush sold his share in UBC after the war for $1.5m - a huge amount of money at the time - but there is no documentary evidence to support this claim. No further action was ever taken nor was the investigation continued, despite the fact UBC was caught red-handed operating a American shell company for the Thyssen family eight months after America had entered the war and that this was the bank that had partly financed Hitler's rise to power."

Germany surrendered, Nazis didn't, scattering under Project Paperclip into Russia and the US. Not all of them were dyed in the wool Nazi party members, still about 60,000 came here if we are to believe Farrell's numbers, and world history played out as it did.

I agree that Nazis were used after the war by the US in important positions and for their scientific knowledge.

What Levenda, Marrs, Farrell, and other conspiracy authors wont detail is the occult philosophy. That is why I thought you might be interested in the Freemasonic symbolism behind major events. The Masons and other occult societies are into themes similar to those allegedly supported by the Nazis. Freemasons and Jews have been, and continue to be, in important positions of power and have been major influences in the global conspiracy. Hitler didnt like Masons or Jews. Still, a lot of these people have the same underlying ideas about a new world and a new age.

[boutreality]

Let's not get caught up on, "there is this sect and that sect and these do this but those do that." There are valued researchers that have been doing that for years, that's the background information, and anyone can avail themselves of that; Farrell, Levenda, and Marrs are good sources for that..

There is an overarching paradigm they all adhere to, there is an ideal they live in service to.
I drew the link "Nazis to NWO", which I consider established, as a precursor to what the New Age is/why it started.
I agree that it started much earlier than WW2, Nazis came "on the scene" in the 40s and have helped advanced from that stage in a protracted plan from then on.

I can only explain the symbolism behind major events and tying these back to Masons and other groups in the context of my personal findings about the weapons system.

That's actually the point of almost all of the threads I've started here. This is the only one where I seek to link my findings to the NAZIS and the NWO.
I recently wrote in a PM,
"Perhaps 3-5 people will find the info in these threads to be useful data they can apply to their own discipline, the rest may be entertained by giving a unique idea their consideration." -That's how I feel about this.

I am working at the patience required to interact on the forum in whatever way helps others to see what I'm getting at, but I'm not emboldened to convince people because they have to see it this way; that's foolish.

The entire construct relies on the intent of their group members- that they, at whatever level, see results they can value for their own reasons, according to the level they're at.
I'm sure there are members of [blank] group/sect (of the many varied Secret Fancy pants wearers) that think the reason their hierarchy protects them lies completely in the physical constructs that are playing out symbolic alignments of symbols.

Still higher ranking members see results based upon weapons that are out-of-phase, delivering an effect through a conduit that travels from an inter-dimensional and\or off-world source.

-Different, or similar parts of that same system contributes to what ensnares the intent and sentience (particularly the perceptual capacity) of those following New Age ideals. The rest of the world has their intent to solve this, to get at what's actually at work here, diffused thanks to the same system.

I know my threads aren't going to be understood by a large group of people, however the paradigm they convey does give a complete "big picture" view.
I've invited others to impart different ideas that do the same thing, and ask them to please recognize that enough valid research is already out there to give a solid foundation to explaining what we are actually up against. Now let's explain it.

Let's not get lost in the same mire of "this contactee-this race-these groups-that guy" that this area of inquiry has been caught in for two decades.

[Sueanne47]

I found out (and over 3 million people) a lot about the Nazi's and Elite's by this video 'the rich man's trick'. But the NWO started when Dwight Eisenhower made a pact with the ET's

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=U1Qt6a-vaNM

[boutreality]

Sueanne47-

I enjoyed that vid. it is fairly informative.
ETs are host bodies for the sentient awareness of this planet's rulers, this is addressed in my opening post here.
I said Bush Sr. popularized the term NWO, not that he started the NWO.

Thanks

[Sueanne47]

I know it takes a lot of time to view the video, but it helps to understand a lot of things. The ET's are at the top of the pyramid, the sooner God sorts out this boiling pot of corruption & greed ..the better!!

Thank you for all your information Boutreality..

Sue

[boutreality]

For anyone interested, I found a video that starts by covering links between NAZIS and the New Age, then gets into 'origins' and applications of NAZI science, specifically flying saucers and the science at work.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=8ryS1o0u31E

It does get into the Black Sun. My take on what makes the Black Sun and what purpose the effect serves is covered in the Scientology Retort thread and the L.M.pdf which can be found there.

And here's a link to a movie on the dark side of Nazi Occult beliefs -the "light side" is an operation used for purposes I have covered. The doc is called "Blood Sacrifice." It is a UFOTV doc, and they have history of pulling videos down. It can be watched here:

https://youtu.be/tOrGEuMpUCM

Again this is a belief system that where the large majority of members do not know that what they show reverence for is collective effects of a highly sophisticated applications of science and technology.

[Enola]

So at the top a kind of priesthood that communicates with hyper-dimensional/extra-terrestrial entities?

[boutreality]

Fairly near the top, yes.
My stance is inter-dimensional entities/ETs are avatars, host bodies manipulated by the people at the top. The biological tech at work gives these people an inter-dimensional capacity they can access without being dedicated to discipline.
They can remain coke head pedophiles -what have you- and still have these powers.

-That principle is what fuels the overall weapons array; "Have the power (as part of a progressive hierarchy) without putting in the work to earn it."

[blackdog]

Posted by boutreality (here)
For anyone interested, I found a video that starts by covering links between NAZIS and the New Age, then gets into 'origins' and applications of NAZI science, specifically flying saucers and the science at work.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=8ryS1o0u31E[/video]

It does get into the Black Sun. My take on what makes the Black Sun and what purpose the effect serves is covered in the Scientology Retort thread and the L.M.pdf which can be found there.

Again this is a belief system that where the large majority member do not know that what they show reverence for is collective effects of a highly sophisticated applications of science and technology.

This video says they are interested in the "New Age, Golden Age, Golden Dawn, New World Order" and "occult (hidden) antediluvian knowledge". They are interested in the Age of Aquarius. This is what the thread I linked to is all about. 9/11 was an occult ceremony bringing in the Age of Aquarius. It is consistent, in part, with what you are saying.

The Nazis were interested in the ancients because they believed there were past, higher level civilizations, like Atlantis. That is why they were experimenting with technology, because they thought they could find again the science of the past Golden Age. The New Age isnt about technology. It is about cyclical history, which will bring us back into another Golden Age, eventually. Consciousness is rising as we move forward in this cycle. The powers that be, those in the know, are preparing the world for the changes to come, for the higher consciousness ages that are ahead of us.

If you are interested in the new age, you should really read my thread. It also contains my interpretation of the black sun.

Blavatsky used the swastika and talked about the central sun, and she argues for the existence of cycles and cyclic evolution. She talks about the Aryan race, which is essentially all the human beings of this cycle of the precession of the equinoxes. The swastika, like the cross, divides space into the four seasons of cyclical history. The extra lines represent the motion of cyclic evolution.

[boutreality]

The notion that time is cyclical is an enforced conclusion.
-Even an enforced condition on a mass scale; time itself would not be cyclical if it weren't for those enforcing structures.
-Again we may be saying the same thing here in precept.
I get into what "enforces" time -the actual technological support structures in the "House of Saturn" section of the Skull & Bones thread.

I did say the New Age philosophies purposely and covertly hooks a person into energies originated from an out-of-phase/inter-dimensional/ space-based weapons array.
That's where I'm saying the technology comes in. I also said I draw these conclusion from my own practice; my own insight gathered through years of pursuing a discipline.
When I say "New Age," in these terms, I mean Scientology; Seven Rays/Ascended Masters and Chakra type beliefs.

I answered your inquiry re: the use of symbols and the import they have- They are important to a level of some Secret Society members whose understanding, according to the level they're at, is that the symbols symbolically aligning is why their plots work.

-If you consider that this understanding entails the intent of those members purposed for use by their society and the weapons array I'm talking about, then that's the whole of my stance on the topic.