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    Default Re: Simon Parkes: Questions of integrity and credibility

    Quote Posted by Citizen No2 (here)
    No onawah.

    I wrote the message to Bill on 19th August. As far as I know, and I would say I am correct, I'm the only person to speak to this ex-military policeman. I see nothing in the new message sent to Bill about contacting the soldier on duty that day.

    This message that has been sent to Bill that is the O/P, I know nothing about.

    It just further proves how a lot of people are feeling. By slowly chipping away at Simon's stories, due diligence, they are starting to be exposed for what they are. Twisted facts and out-and-out lies.

    That is my opinion only.

    Let me make this crystal clear. I know nothing of this new message sent to Bill by a non-member or who that person is.


    Hope that makes it clear.

    EDIT: What do you think of all this onawah, if I may ask? I feel for the position you are in, I really do, because I have been in that position too. When I found out that I had been lied to for so long, it hurts, and made me doubt myself more than anything. It made me not trust my own judgement, which was the worst thing.

    This is just what I have found out about Simon, with a little digging. It's a free choice World, and it's your choice who you listen to. That aspect, I respect.


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    Onawah I agree with the sentiment expressed by Citizen no2
    Even though I obviously disagreed with your view point I did not loose respect for you.
    I hope that you have had your eyes opened by recent posts.

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    Default Re: Simon Parkes: Questions of integrity and credibility

    Hi Citizen No2. Thanks for the clarification.
    I really don't take any of this personally.
    I don't feel like I've been victimized, and if it turns out that Simon is a pathological liar or a dangerous tool, as far as I am concerned, I helped in the process of uncovering that, and I'm glad I did.
    On the other hand, if it turns out he is not a villainous liar or a tool of dark forces, then I am glad that I continued to question.
    My questioning was never on his behalf, but was motivated by a desire to discover the truth.
    I think it's less a question of black and white and more a question of a lot of gray areas, but I am happy to admit if I'm wrong about that too, if I see anything to convince me of that.
    What's most important to me is that we are able to discover the truth.
    I've had evidence presented to me that was quite convincing that Simon was actually being set up in one instance in which many here think he was guilty as sin.
    Unfortunately, the person who could have presented that evidence was unwilling to take the risk out of fear of reprisal, knowing how dangerous that can be.
    That was just one instance, but it was an important one.
    I have never been coached by Simon or any of his friends, and I don't have any agenda in this matter, though I do have a desire to know the truth, and I hope we arrive at that someday, but I don't think we have yet.
    Quote Posted by Citizen No2 (here)
    No onawah.

    I wrote the message to Bill on 19th August. As far as I know, and I would say I am correct, I'm the only person to speak to this ex-military policeman. I see nothing in the new message sent to Bill about contacting the soldier on duty that day.

    This message that has been sent to Bill that is the O/P, I know nothing about.

    It just further proves how a lot of people are feeling. By slowly chipping away at Simon's stories, due diligence, they are starting to be exposed for what they are. Twisted facts and out-and-out lies.

    That is my opinion only.

    Let me make this crystal clear. I know nothing of this new message sent to Bill by a non-member or who that person is.


    Hope that makes it clear.

    EDIT: What do you think of all this onawah, if I may ask? I feel for the position you are in, I really do, because I have been in that position too. When I found out that I had been lied to for so long, it hurts, and made me doubt myself more than anything. It made me not trust my own judgement, which was the worst thing.

    This is just what I have found out about Simon, with a little digging. It's a free choice World, and it's your choice who you listen to. That aspect, I respect.


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    Default Re: Simon Parkes: Questions of integrity and credibility

    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    ... I don't apologize for keeping an open mind about Simon or any other whistleblower who is being accused of various things, when no real tangible proof other than hearsay is being provided of serious wrongdoing.
    [...]
    onawah, I wish for you that one day you'll be able to distinguish between "hearsay" and "testimony."

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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    All the other messages received which I've been asked to post have been testimony.
    As for plagiarism, those are also actionable either with the stripping of any "certificates" acquired via such or with lawsuits like it happens in the "entertainment" fields.

    Until you are able to let go of that bone, I wish you pleasure, peace and joy worrying it

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    Thanks Herve,
    As I understand it, there was one recording which may have convinced Bill that the other accusations were probably all true.
    Personally, I think there is a lot more about that particular case which needs to be explored, but I cannot offer anything in the way of evidence, unfortunately.
    Nothing else was recorded and so we can only take the presenters' word for it that things actually happened the way they was presented.
    Such testimony in a court of law would be weighed with conflicting testimony if there was such.
    And there would be lots of favorable testimony from people who have reported benefiting from sessions with Simon, if anyone was interested enough in this debate to present it.
    I lost interest in trying to collect it from CC members as they don't have a central site at this time, and Simon wasn't really interested in sending it to me, as he has pretty much written off Avalon, I believe.
    He agreed to do it at one point, and then I told him that I thought it was pointless, too, or at least not the right time for it.
    As for plagiarism, it's a kind of murky area when it comes to legality on the internet, I think, and there's a lot of it going on.
    I'm not excusing that, just stating an observable fact.
    Simon's being targeted for it, but a lot of other people could be just as easily.
    David Wilcock and others collect information from the internet and other sources and present it to interested people who don't have time to do that kind of research.
    It's a service, in a way, though certainly not always accurate or verifiable.
    I don't think they usually claim all that information comes from themselves, do they?
    And I don't think there are certificates for such services, or that they have been considered "actionable" as things stand at this time.
    For that matter, the mainstream media isn't accountable either for much of the information it presents, as well as lots of alternative media outlets.
    The difference between real journalism and "entertainment" is becoming very blurred planet wide.
    It's very strange times we are living in; that's one thing we can probably all agree on, and there are more and more grey areas.
    I'm just not into a blame game or being a victim, I'm into the process of discovering the truth in the best way I can and trusting in my own intuition.
    For every finger pointing, there are 4 pointing back.
    We are all accountable in the final analysis to our own Self, and there is no escaping that.
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    Default Re: Simon Parkes: Questions of integrity and credibility

    Onawah,

    I left you alone because I felt kind of sorry for you. I think you have fallen under some kind of spell. I can keep my silence no longer.

    You have just taken the concerns, worries and personal stories of half the forum and minimized, deflected, insinuated and wriggled out of every solid piece of evidence presented. Your act is half Grima Wormtongue, half Houdini, and it is none too pleasant to watch. Don't you have any hobbies outside Avalon? At first, I thought you should be banned, but I don't believe in banning for dissenting opinions. On second thoughts... your disingenouous double-talk has lost Sauron Parkes more credibility than the rest of us combined. Well done!

    Every wheedling, whining post from any of the Parxists makes all of you look silly. So please, keep posting. Maybe you could form an Alliance with the Keshe camp.

    He is reading this forum, he's just pretending he doesn't. Simon needs to step down, and go and heal. Get a job on Freelancer proof-reading, programming, whatever. That's the best offer he's going to get. James Casbolt went to jail. No matter what protection Simon thinks he has, he could serve a jail sentence too.

    Onawah, if you support a plagarist and a predator, YOU are the AGRRESSOR. So quit playing all hurt and innocent.

    Sauron Parkes has had his day. He no longer has permission to continue tricking people. He shall terrorize Avalon no longer.

    Best Wishes,

    Daozen
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    Default Re: Simon Parkes: Questions of integrity and credibility

    First of all thank you dear guest for your point of view and thank you admins for sharing this with the forum.

    During my entrance to the alternative community I came with the though that I won't find liers or people who would mislead others since why would some one in the alternative community would do such a thing. After a while as i grew up a bit and got some good advices, I reviewed some of Simon's materials (at the beginning I was a dedicated follower of him) and I started to feel that there is something in me that says "this guy is inconsistent". I was hoping to find some negative critic about him around here but or I didn't find any or I have probably missed it while searching. So thank's again for this reassuring info. I speak for myself here tho we will never know until we are satisfied with a hard proof that Simon is a conman or a truth teller. I do listen to connecting consciousness sometimes to see if that is some consistency with other sources but not more then that. I stopped taking Simon's stories and information seriously for quite some time now and I feel great for doing that.
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    Quote Posted by Daozen (here)
    and it is none too pleasant to watch. Don't you have any hobbies outside Avalon? At first, I thought you should be banned, but I don't believe in banning for dissenting opinions. On second thoughts.. your disingenouous double-talk...

    ...YOU are the AGRRESSOR. So quit playing all hurt and innocent.
    Ouch! Dang, Daozen...

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    Daozen has a point RunningDeer (though it is a very pointy point lol), but Lawd have mercy, how many threads are we on now?

    Quote Posted by onawah
    ... I'm glad this matter has been put to rest...
    I'm glad you feel that way onawah. I'm sure Bill, Alberto, Daniela, Bibi, Callista, "A", "F", Sam, three guest emailers and anyone else whose testimony was invalidated, feel a similar joy.

    You are very lucky Greybeard still respects you, and I respect Greybeard very much.

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    Default Re: Simon Parkes: Questions of integrity and credibility

    Their testimony may be true as they see it, and if so, I don't think it can truly be invalidated unless they allow that feeling in, but what happened may also be seen from other perspectives, as well, which can be just as valid.
    We can never really know, since we are not omnipotent.
    Which is why we are instructed to judge not.
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    Initially, I was very intrigued by Simon a couple years ago. His calm demeanor...his frank discussions of his upbringing and connections with Mantis ET's....I was like...wow, this dude is really spilling the beans. However, in the last few months all I hear from him is fear mongering with BS predictions. And so, I've tuned him out. I can't get into fear mongering and I think it's a slippery slope to make predictions because when they don't come true, then all credibility is lost (imo anyways). I wonder if, after this thread, he will mention Avalon by name in his next interview with Kerry.

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    Default Re: Simon Parkes: Questions of integrity and credibility

    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    Their testimony may be true as they see it, and if so, I don't think it can truly be invalidated unless they allow that feeling in, but what happened may also be seen from other perspectives, as well, which can be just as valid.
    We can never really know, since we are not omnipotent.
    Which is why we are instructed to judge not.
    Practice what you preach dear. No one else was pointing the finger at the whistleblowers. Non stop.

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    After all these that came to light it's hard to listen to Simon Parkes any more but i still believe he was telling the truth about his experiences.I really didn't like the fact that Avalon members were named in this e mail,in fact i found it really useless.Comments like" don't you have any hobbies outside Avalon?" make me mad,they are disgusting

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    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    David Wilcock and others collect information from the internet and other sources and present it to interested people who don't have time to do that kind of research.
    It's a service, in a way, though certainly not always accurate or verifiable.
    I don't think they usually claim all that information comes from themselves, do they?
    And I don't think there are certificates for such services, or that they have been considered "actionable" as things stand at this time.
    For that matter, the mainstream media isn't accountable either for much of the information it presents, as well as lots of alternative media outlets.

    I can't even come close to comparing the two.
    People have said a lot of mean things about Wilcock, usually regarding ego and that kind of thing.
    But, David has openly stated that women pretty regularly throw themselves at him as a sort of alternative media/spiritual guru version of the rock star groupies.
    I mean, if I were a chick I suppose it would be pretty cool to say I f*cked the reincarnation of Edgar Cayce.
    But I digress.
    David has stated that this would be a negative thing to do, and has stated he has for the most part used his will power not to engage in that sort of thing.
    Where as Simon Parks offers up his corn dog and states it is a necessary part of the energetic healing.
    I mean I've been to the doctors office and had to endure the ominous snap of the plastic glove and the uncomfortable request to "now push against my finger". But I've never had anyone in the role of care giver tell me I need to turn around and take his corn dog in order for my ailment to go away.
    Just saying.
    He also states that the corn dog must have no condemn on it.
    This was always the dead give away for me.
    Upon hearing this I knew the guy was negatively attaching himself to people.
    Gurus are famous for cording their pupils and feeding on them. Some do it consciously others unconsciously.
    Such is the dark side of spirituality. And corn dog juice is basically a living entity, so it is the quickest and most powerful way for a man to cord someone.
    So to sum all of this up, I do not believe there is anyway what so ever you can compare David Wilcock to Simon Parks.
    David Wilcock is like the Opie Taylor of the alternative news community.
    Where as Simon Parks is that creepy uncle who your parents never leave you alone with.


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    Default Re: Simon Parkes: Questions of integrity and credibility

    I am very sorry to be not clear enough in some events but you need to step up yourself, I can not lift you.

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post912355
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    Default Re: Simon Parkes: Questions of integrity and credibility

    I agree with many of the emailers points. Many of us do. There are dozens upon dozens of active members that could have, and maybe already have, written something similar. Which makes posting it here all the more redundant and pointless. It was in my opinion in very poor taste, as it repeatedly singles out one member (Onawah) for reprimand, which has the effect of shaming or embarrassing or intentionally trying to gang up on someone...and accomplishes little else. I was embarrassed by it.

    Onawah is not anyone's puppet. She's not speaking for anyone. Her posts reflect her sincere opinions on Simon Parkes. They may be immensely frustrating to many members here - including me! - but until we implement a "no Simon" policy here, she should be able to proceed without fear of shaming or condescension.

    And, imo, if someone wants to have a take here, they should register just like everyone else and join the discussion that way.

    Bill, mods, you all know I support you all and have great respect for each and every one of you, but I think you dropped the ball on this one. I can't help but question the motivation here???

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    I'd like to comment on RunningDeer's picture posted above of horses breaking loose from a merry go round. LOL, I think that's awesome (and I saved it).

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    I would like to thank the moderation team for taking decisive action on the matter of Simon Parkes.

    In relation to the "Simon Parkes update 2016-sep-04: Connecting Consciousness" were I was quiet vocal about my opinions. I would like to make some points:

    1. I am fully aware of the misgivings the communities and guests had about Simon Parkes abilities as a counselor, and this played a significant part in stopping me from seeking his counsel.

    2. I found some of Simon Parkes points interesting in his Q and A which would allow me a perspective to investigate and validate or disprove for myself.

    3. My posts in "Simon Parkes update 2016-sep-04: Connecting Consciousness" directed towards Sam Hunter and Greybeard were designed to bait them both and highlight the fact that regardless of the the source of the thread it is not the place for members of the community to witch hunt, become self appointed police or gangstalk peronalities in the alternative media on the Avalon Community forum.

    Because there actions may:
    - dissuade members from expressing their point of view on the topic,
    - dissuade possible whistleblowers from coming forward and also
    - damage the reputation of the Avalon Community.

    And yes I was trying to force the issue on Simon Parkes. If members like Sam Hunter, Greybeard or others have strong issue with these personalities they should directly petition the moderators to take action. As it the sole responsibility of the moderation team to take decisive action against personalities which are deemed a threat to members and guests of the Avalon Community.

    Lastly, I am sorry to anyone I may have offended or upset, my aim was for decisive action to be taken in regards to Simon Parkes material.

    And I do not hold any ill will towards any member or guest and have respect for opinions of every member as I have always.
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    Default Re: Simon Parkes: Questions of integrity and credibility

    This video was recorded on the 21 August and I think is appropriate to post here:


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    Quote Posted by Mike (here)
    I agree with many of the emailers points. Many of us do. There are dozens upon dozens of active members that could have, and maybe already have, written something similar. Which makes posting it here all the more redundant and pointless. It was in my opinion in very poor taste, as it repeatedly singles out one member (Onawah) for reprimand, which has the effect of shaming or embarrassing or intentionally trying to gang up on someone...and accomplishes little else. I was embarrassed by it.

    Onawah is not anyone's puppet. She's not speaking for anyone. Her posts reflect her sincere opinions on Simon Parkes. They may be immensely frustrating to many members here - including me! - but until we implement a "no Simon" policy here, she should be able to proceed without fear of shaming or condescension.

    And, imo, if someone wants to have a take here, they should register just like everyone else and join the discussion that way.

    Bill, mods, you all know I support you all and have great respect for each and every one of you, but I think you dropped the ball on this one. I can't help but question the motivation here???

    Mike
    I love you like a digital brother. I do. I agree with you 99.99% of the time.
    But I also feel you like a good fight now and then, and there is no better fight than defending the underdog so to speak.
    Fair enough.
    If I were in a forum brawl there is probably no one better I would choose to stand by my side than yourself.
    There was even a time when I think we were on the verge of a row, and you reminded me of our friendship and also stated you didn't wanna risk losing it by verbally whipping my ass on the forum. Of which my brother, I had little doubt then and I have little doubt now that you could do.
    You are quite handy with the six shooter as your avatar signifies with Val Kilmer portraying Doc Holliday from the movie Tombstone.
    The best character of the movie and probably Val Kilmer's career.
    But back to the topic.
    In the Spring of 2015 I left the forum for the most part. I believe I talked with you about it at the time. And my reason for not wanting to be here was the forum's support of Simon Parks at the time.
    I had become aware that Simon Parks was taking advantage of folks, men and women alike and making unprotected sex an important part of their healing process.
    You may say buyer beware and you may be correct in that point.
    The ruling precept of Adam Smith's economic principals were that if two parties both being of sound mind entered into agreed exchange of money and or goods and services then the exchange was a positive in so far as it reflected on the market.
    We must now ask ourselves, where the folks who accepted Simon Parks offer of sexual healing of sound mind?
    Simon Parks was a councilor or rather a energetic healer. The folks coming to Parks felt there was something wrong with them and decided to pursue a means of healing.
    I'm sure the majority of the folks who entered into an arrangement with Parks never in their wildest dreams thought he was going to physically enter them. Now I'm sure most of these folks were of sound mind, but the power we give healers can often times allow us to follow the recomendation of the healer to an extent we never would have considered before the relationship started.
    Now does this mean all these folks were not of sound mind? I'm thinking they were of sound mind, but I'm sure some by their own admission some were seeking help on this account. So atleast on a few accounts we can assume that the individuals were not of sound mind being as they came for healing help, now by not being of sound mind this was not an exchange the market would deem beneficial.
    When entering a relationship of patient healer one lets one's defenses down. One allows the healer to be in charge.
    There are ethical restraints in the psychology fields because of this.
    Now that these complaints have reached our forum owner's ears and the ears of the mods to the satisfaction that these complaints are real, the proper protocols have been put in place and we are getting away from offering Parks a venue of which to procure more victims. There seems to be a few dissenting opinions on the validity of those vicitms who have come forward. There seems to be a few folks who demand "proof" in so far as it relates to "proof" being more than human testimony.
    You may feel Onawah should have the freedom to express her views on the positive concerning Parks, and you may be correct.
    But my own personal view is, if we can save one person from Simon Parks sodomizing them both mentally/spiritually and mentally then shouldn't we?
    I think so.
    And if this means posting five negatives to every one of Onawah's positive posts where Simon Parks is concerned then so be it.
    I know you and Natalie are friends, but the forum verdict on Simon has been made.
    He is guilty as guilty gets.
    We have plenty of lurkers reading our words, not just the guy who had his e-mail posted.
    I think it is our duty to get the word out for those who are still being lured in by his videos. And I also applaud those who contradict the message of Simon being any kind of a valid healer/therapist. Simon is a predator plain and simple


    I hope you understand what a touchy subject this is.
    The topic is a fairly charged one. Especially for those who have been taken advantage of.

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    I wrote the following to an Avalonian, and was asked to post it here.
    Quote You misunderstand. I am not defending Simon.
    I am defending justice and the process by which we arrive at justice.
    True, I don't see that there has been enough proof of wrongdoing to condemn Simon to the extent he has been accused.
    I don't think he is stainless, but I think it is possible that he is sincerely turning into a better human being.
    In the Bible it says that heaven rejoices much more in the sinner who repents than in the soul who considers him/herself blameless.
    If we are all One, then we are all benefiting by helping such a repentant if that is so.
    No one has to publicly repent to be a sincere person--I would be less convinced if Simon did, because I think he is still too Reptilian for that, but I think he is doing so just the same, in his own way.
    And I can only say that because I'm sure I (and most people on the planet) have some Reptilian in me, and so I can recognize and understand those traits.
    I would not stand in the way of that, even though I think he still has a long way to go.
    His friend Becky, who is an inactive Avalon member, is not a fool, nor do I think other friends of his such as Win Keech and Jay Pee of Wolf Spirit Radio could be easily deceived.
    I may be wrong, but I think the truth will be clear at some point, and when it is, I don't see any reason to feel regret even if I am wrong.
    Every soul should have a chance to redeem themselves, even if they fail.
    I admit it's possible that he is such a master at deception that he has all those people fooled, myself included, but I think there are a lot more people who would defend him than would revile him because he has helped them in some way.
    So even if he is a wicked person, he is doing a lot of good in spite of himself.
    There was more to the message, but that was the part which the person thought should be posted.
    No doubt Simon's detractors will find it of no consequence, but I think those like Mike and perhaps a few others will appreciate it.

    As for the comparison to David Wilcock, my remarks were taken out of context.
    I was speaking only of the service that David performs and others like him, including Simon, of spending a lot of time researching data and compiling it and disseminating it for those of us who don't have time for that.

    I don't think any of us really know for sure very much about Simon's or David's or anyone else's private lives, really.
    It is all speculation or second hand information for everyone except the two people involved in any given relationship.
    Only those who have the shared experience can know what really happened, and of those two, the accounting of what happened and why and how can vary tremendously.

    I am not pointing the finger at anyone by taking that position, I am no more omnipotent than anyone else, so how could I know?
    I don't claim to know who is deceived and who is deceiver.
    But I think is it is valid to suspect that there may be foul play on the parts of some who have made complaints, for the very reason that Simon is constantly speaking out publicly about the elite.
    And that is a point that is constantly being ignored, which I find very puzzling.
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