Charlotte Riots... NOT protests....WTF is going on with the brewing "Race war"?

[Ernie Nemeth]

The designation of "crime" itself is biased. Any argument based on existing definitions and decrees are flawed from the start. They do not uphold common human values.

It may have changed or is in the process of changing, but the entire corporate structure is/was based upon white, non-minority rule. This was/is primarily a British operation from the beginning, after all. Of course it's about the money. This society is entirely about servitude masked by a veneer of goodwill and fair play. Upwards of 80 percent of our toil is stolen from us under the pretext of the common good, yet things get progressively worse. We are fleeced like sheep, and like sheep we jump back in the pen happy to be free of our burden (the burden of abundance and responsibility).

We, none of us seem to understand the wealth of this world. We are wealthy beyond measure! We have everything we need, plenty of everything. The cost for this bounty need not be a lifetime of toil.

Our greatest minds today work on better drones and bombs and delivery systems of death. Imagine if they could focus on the common man's plight...

We need to understand that the wealth of this world will not disappear when the financial markets finally crash. The wealth of this world is its people, it is they that must be freed of the Babylonian money magic game. Money becomes chains that shackle and enslave - it will always ultimately be so. There is another way.

We are rich by virtue of birth and numbers. We have never been allowed to see it because it is our masters' undoing. We don't have to scrabble, we only need to cooperate. We are all the same. None are more same than any other.

We live in a culture of corruption, as DNA says. No half measures will work for that very reason. No argument that begins somewhere within the culture of corruption can hold. And since we cannot imagine a world of cooperation and the true abundance we can create there are no answers, no guidance, no way out.

Jobless recoveries don't happen in the real world, where people need to eat. Where did all that wealth go?

Race wars are just a distraction in comparison to this sad commentary on the human condition.

[TargeT]

We certainly aren't talking about this, are we?:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=qYTO-i_gd2I

War in Yemen?
That deserves a lot of attention IMO.

[rgray222]

Do you ever think that we are chasing our tails when it comes to solving some of the worlds problems?

Labels originate with politicians and are supported by the media. As long as we freely use labels we will never realise equality, never. As long as politicians create victims our problems will never be solved.

We focus on riots in the streets, police shootings and high incarceration levels and not the economic conditions that deny quality jobs, schools that deny choice and quality education. Now that the politicians have people believing that they are victims of the system the problems become self-perpetuating and generational. The politicians can now step in and solve the very same problems that they have created. The victims feel that they have found their white knight and keep putting these criminals back into office.

We focus on Syrian refugees and not the civil war causing the refugee crisis. Choose the white knight you would like to believe in, but the truth is that Russia and the USA can equally share the blame for escalating this war. Solve the civil strife in Syria and you solve the refugee crisis.

People in the USA focus on illegal immigration and not the corruption, lack of education and lack of opportunity facing the people of Mexico (and other countries) forcing them to immigrate illegally. Focus human and economic resources on solving Mexico's problems and the immigration problem goes away. Choose your white knight, Trump to build the wall or Hillary to open the borders, neither one will actually solve a dam thing.

There is no will or desire to solve these problems. Without victims, politicians would become inconsequential.

How can we even begin to solve our problems, when by design the world is not even focused on the core problems.

[Mike]

Black Lives Matter..a terrorist group? Talk about playing into propoganda..sheesh. That wasnt a very intelligent take NancyV. Ignorant statements like these are alarmist at best and are uttered (or written) only by those who love to pretend that whites egregious treatment of blacks throughout history (and currently)has absolutely nothing to do with the current protests, the formation of groups like Black Lives Matter, or the number of blacks in prison vis a vis whites and hispanics..

Please be reasonable. You can't believe blacks are "falling for the trap that was laid out for them?" What an enormously intellectually lazy statement. Insulting too. Right, it has nothing to do with blatant injustice and police brutality. Leave it up to someone in the alt community to totally ignore the infinite shades of grey here and just label it conspiracy. Traps? Youve clearly fallen into one yourself...the one that ignorantly justifies the profound injustices committed against blacks by whites all while acting as though it has nothing to do with the current situation....all while declaring "youre not a racist". Please do better!

Sorry TargeT, but this thread has a very fox news feel to it. You can graph and and pie chart me to death, but I'm still not buying the aggrieved white man angle youre passive aggressively trying to pull off here. No amount of statistical data will distract from your phony objectivity.

Any time there has been a race related thread here in the past, youve always been if not passive aggressively racist, then at least vigorously white. And then NancyV will sweep in making one racist insinuation after another, all while smugly claiming "she's not racist". Ive seen this dance before. I don't think youre fooling anyone.

Anyone with a sincere interest in whats going on now racially in the states needs to open their eyes and look around. Thats all. It's all there right in front of you..and its very obvious.

[TargeT]

Posted by Mike (here)
whites egregious treatment of blacks throughout history (and currently)

Please do elaborate. What current treatment?

Posted by Mike (here)
has absolutely nothing to do with the current protests, the formation of groups like Black Lives Matter, or the number of blacks in prison vis a vis whites and hispanics..

In charlotte, a black female cop, shot a black man (that would not comply with police instructions), there have been two days of rioting... or do you also insist on call this protesting?

what is being protested here:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=gp0Z0MTxt-w

Posted by Mike (here)
Please be reasonable. You can't believe blacks are "falling for the trap that was laid out for them?" What an enormously intellectually lazy statement. Insulting too. Right, it has nothing to do with blatant injustice and police brutality.

Please expand on Blatant injustice AND police brutality with OUT being intellectually lazy; I have offered references to my statements can you?

You've already said you don't want to see graphs, how would you like reality displayed to you?

Posted by Mike (here)
Leave it up to someone in the alt community to totally ignore the infinite shades of grey here and just label it conspiracy. Traps? Youve clearly fallen into one yourself...the one that ignorantly justifies the profound injustices committed against blacks by whites all while acting as though it has nothing to do with the current situation....all while declaring "youre not a racist". Please do better!

Please detail said injustices. they must be obvious, yeah?

Posted by Mike (here)
Sorry TargeT, but this thread has a very fox news feel to it. You can graph and and pie chart me to death, but I'm still not buying the aggrieved white man angle youre passive aggressively trying to pull off here. No amount of statistical data will distract from your phony objectivity.

What does fox news have to do with it (other than logical fallacy)... no pie charts?
Ok, so data won't work, what will? hugs? butterflies? maybe if we all close our eyes it will go away?

How does this NOT deserve a discussion?

Posted by Mike (here)
Any time there has been a race related thread here in the past, youve always been if not passive aggressively racist, then at least vigorously white. And then NancyV will sweep in making one racist insinuation after another, all while smugly claiming "she's not racist". Ive seen this dance before. I don't think youre fooling anyone.

Anyone with a sincere interest in whats going on now racially in the states needs to open their eyes and look around. Thats all. It's all there right in front of you..and its very obvious.

I've been passive aggressively wondering what the hell is being talked about.. haha I mean I live in an area where I experience actual bigotry (I wouldn't call it racisim,, more like "outsiderism") at a level that I am shocked there are not people going to jail.

I agree, just open your eyes and look around.. but data, reality.. that is a part of looking around. if you haven't spent any time in the projects (that's where my volunteers are from, I'm there all the time) and seen first hand what this culture of violence is like (Did I mention I live in one of the top 10 murder rate countries in the world?) then where are you comming up with these opinions from (now be honest with yourself)?

I KNOW a version of what it's like in these extreme poverty communities, I've personally experienced it for the past nearly 4 years.

I think your perspective is baseless and you have little to no actual experience on this topic; you are repeating talking points that have no basis in reality when explored fully.

But we can walk through them if you want.

[rgray222]

Martin Luther King was best known for his role in the advancement of civil rights using nonviolent civil disobedience. Sorry Mike, but your comment makes me think of Martin's eyes facing toward the sky rolling over in his grave and gently placing his forehead on his foreman and weeping!

Martin believed his role was to offer solutions and not criticism. He was smart enough to know that there were always two sides to every issue and pointing fingers never moved the argument forward.

Posted by Mike (here)
Black Lives Matter..a terrorist group? Talk about playing into propoganda..sheesh. That wasnt a very intelligent take NancyV. Ignorant statements like these are alarmist at best and are uttered (or written) only by those who love to pretend that whites egregious treatment of blacks throughout history (and currently)has absolutely nothing to do with the current protests, the formation of groups like Black Lives Matter, or the number of blacks in prison vis a vis whites and hispanics..

Please be reasonable. You can't believe blacks are "falling for the trap that was laid out for them?" What an enormously intellectually lazy statement. Insulting too. Right, it has nothing to do with blatant injustice and police brutality. Leave it up to someone in the alt community to totally ignore the infinite shades of grey here and just label it conspiracy. Traps? Youve clearly fallen into one yourself...the one that ignorantly justifies the profound injustices committed against blacks by whites all while acting as though it has nothing to do with the current situation....all while declaring "youre not a racist". Please do better!

Sorry TargeT, but this thread has a very fox news feel to it. You can graph and and pie chart me to death, but I'm still not buying the aggrieved white man angle youre passive aggressively trying to pull off here. No amount of statistical data will distract from your phony objectivity.

Any time there has been a race related thread here in the past, youve always been if not passive aggressively racist, then at least vigorously white. And then NancyV will sweep in making one racist insinuation after another, all while smugly claiming "she's not racist". Ive seen this dance before. I don't think youre fooling anyone.

Anyone with a sincere interest in whats going on now racially in the states needs to open their eyes and look around. Thats all. It's all there right in front of you..and its very obvious.

[bluestflame]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=hnnloUWNlUA

dunno , put up for further research , i'm not too " on it" at the moment

[Atlas]

Posted by TargeT (here)

Posted by Mike (here)
whites egregious treatment of blacks throughout history [...]

Please do elaborate. [...]

The first metal handcuffs as we may recognize them today came into existence with the Bronze and Iron ages (source)

Handcuffs? The guy has been shot at least 3 times! what will he do with just his hands? I don't get it...


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handcuffs

One of the first black women to be ordained in the Church of England: 'slave' chains

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=GRmlGg4ks8E

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutiny_on_the_Amistad

[Mike]

Posted by TargeT (here)

Posted by Mike (here)
whites egregious treatment of blacks throughout history (and currently)

Please do elaborate. What current treatment?

Posted by Mike (here)
has absolutely nothing to do with the current protests, the formation of groups like Black Lives Matter, or the number of blacks in prison vis a vis whites and hispanics..

In charlotte, a black female cop, shot a black man (that would not comply with police instructions), there have been two days of rioting... or do you also insist on call this protesting?

what is being protested here:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=gp0Z0MTxt-w

Posted by Mike (here)
Please be reasonable. You can't believe blacks are "falling for the trap that was laid out for them?" What an enormously intellectually lazy statement. Insulting too. Right, it has nothing to do with blatant injustice and police brutality.

Please expand on Blatant injustice AND police brutality with OUT being intellectually lazy; I have offered references to my statements can you?

You've already said you don't want to see graphs, how would you like reality displayed to you?

Posted by Mike (here)
Leave it up to someone in the alt community to totally ignore the infinite shades of grey here and just label it conspiracy. Traps? Youve clearly fallen into one yourself...the one that ignorantly justifies the profound injustices committed against blacks by whites all while acting as though it has nothing to do with the current situation....all while declaring "youre not a racist". Please do better!

Please detail said injustices. they must be obvious, yeah?

Posted by Mike (here)
Sorry TargeT, but this thread has a very fox news feel to it. You can graph and and pie chart me to death, but I'm still not buying the aggrieved white man angle youre passive aggressively trying to pull off here. No amount of statistical data will distract from your phony objectivity.

What does fox news have to do with it (other than logical fallacy)... no pie charts?
Ok, so data won't work, what will? hugs? butterflies? maybe if we all close our eyes it will go away?

How does this NOT deserve a discussion?

Posted by Mike (here)
Any time there has been a race related thread here in the past, youve always been if not passive aggressively racist, then at least vigorously white. And then NancyV will sweep in making one racist insinuation after another, all while smugly claiming "she's not racist". Ive seen this dance before. I don't think youre fooling anyone.

Anyone with a sincere interest in whats going on now racially in the states needs to open their eyes and look around. Thats all. It's all there right in front of you..and its very obvious.

I've been passive aggressively wondering what the hell is being talked about.. haha I mean I live in an area where I experience actual bigotry (I wouldn't call it racisim,, more like "outsiderism") at a level that I am shocked there are not people going to jail.

I agree, just open your eyes and look around.. but data, reality.. that is a part of looking around. if you haven't spent any time in the projects (that's where my volunteers are from, I'm there all the time) and seen first hand what this culture of violence is like (Did I mention I live in one of the top 10 murder rate countries in the world?) then where are you comming up with these opinions from (now be honest with yourself)?

I KNOW a version of what it's like in these extreme poverty communities, I've personally experienced it for the past nearly 4 years.

I think your perspective is baseless and you have little to no actual experience on this topic; you are repeating talking points that have no basis in reality when explored fully.

But we can walk through them if you want.

What current treatment??? Huh?

are you being thick? Seriously?

If thats our starting baseline, we're not going to get very far. Besides, I'm not going to have a power point debate with you..thats your little game. It would be like having a debate on the holocaust with a holocaust denier. I don't need to see a study touting the health benefits of urination in order to go take a leak, understand?

Look, I know what youre doing. Its not appreciated. But please, carry on. I won't even interrupt.

[Calz]

How many hundreds of millions of dollars have been shoved onto BLM (Ford, Soros and so on)???

What might we expect those dollars to do??:

Rather simple there Avalonians.

[ulli]

I've lived for years in a black country in the Caribbean, immersed as a white minority person in a 90% black population.
Shopping on streets where I would sometimes be the only white person in thick crowds of blacks. Was warned by a white friend in LA never to go "south of Wilshire Blvd" and I did anyway. Got nothing but good vibes back from the people there.
I have formed deep and lasting friendships in Barbados and also with black Americans, but also came across blantant anti-whire racism that made my jaws drop and sometimes reduced me to tears.
There is no doubt that hatred is being fomented on boh sides, via a carefully plotted agenda, from behind the scenes.
So I feel that Target is having a similar experience now, and is just discovering how deep that rabbit hole goes.

Only after I moved to Latin America did I find a place where I could see things from a fresh perpective, and in a less emotional light. I want to bring all my black friends here, so that people from both sides can experience each other's cultures. The only way forward into a peaceful world is by sharing food, by offering hospitality, potlucks, potlucks, potlucks, and then sorting the wheat from the chaff, ie discovering that real judgments are done at the individual level, as the whole spectrum from kindness to vengeful hostility is found in all groups equally.
The only community that tackles these issues in a practical way is the Baha'i community.
The problem is when individuals become identified with large groups, and whenever that happens it is a sign that someone higher up has an agenda and is stirring the pot.
I found Target's comments to be fair, and based on real experience, and anyone that has a powerful opposite opinion should just go and live for a few years in all of the world's cultures to discover that the majority of people are being bombarded by divisive agendas, and that by committing to right living and practising decency in one's personal affairs is the only way forward.

[greybeard]

Rosaline my wife is black from Cameroon.
I may have "Noticed" she was black to begin with but now she is Rosaline.
She has University education--was a teacher in her own country --here she is a support worker which she enjoys but its well below her qualifications and earning capacity.
Slave labor frankly---underpaid for what they do.

She got a degree in entrepreneurship at Edinburgh University in order to start the charity on my signature--the web site there is well worth a visit

However she feels at times that there is some racial prejudiced here--I don't see that and maybe she is oversensitive--its not blatent in your face but it may be subtle.
People are like that--When I was a child we did not associate with kids across the river --we knew our boundaries and they should keep to theirs--ha ha.
No body should be discriminated against for any reason what soever.

Chris

[norman]

....... LOVELY JUBBELY ......

That's my millions..... and I'm not even "black"

[Awakening2014]

"25,659,922 whites below the poverty line vs 9,472,583 blacks below the poverty line (11,197,648 hispanics.. where are the hispanic riots??)


The numbers give truth to the lies... and they ARE lies.

Any argument I've heard falls apart after a bit of research (we have been TOLD certain things that just aren't true (surprise surprise??))[/QUOTE]"

Doesn't this mean that of the 12.3% of black Americans that about 24% are below poverty. With the information I received from the census bureau that would mean about 12% of white Americans are below poverty. The numbers of white Americans below poverty may be greater than black, but in percentage of each population, black Americans are about twice as likely for poverty.

I am a white American and I know most Americans are caught up in the propaganda and this black vs white bs. It is so devastating to see so many of my brothers and sisters falling for this carefully orchestrated agenda.

[TargeT]

Posted by Atlas (here)

Posted by TargeT (here)

Posted by Mike (here)
whites egregious treatment of blacks throughout history [...]

Please do elaborate. [...]

The first metal handcuffs as we may recognize them today came into existence with the Bronze and Iron ages (source)

So nothing recent then, certainly nothing I nor anyone I know participated in.


I'd like some elaboration on the current treatment.

Posted by TargeT

Posted by Mike
whites egregious treatment of blacks throughout history (and currently)

Please do elaborate. What current treatment?

What you are doing is basically a strawman logical fallacy. I bet you didn't even do it intentionally, it's just how you (most people really) are conditioned to communicate. You think the above is relevant to the Charlotte riots?

Posted by Mike (here)
What current treatment??? Huh?

are you being thick? Seriously?

If thats our starting baseline, we're not going to get very far. Besides, I'm not going to have a power point debate with you..thats your little game. It would be like having a debate on the holocaust with a holocaust denier. I don't need to see a study touting the health benefits of urination in order to go take a leak, understand?

Look, I know what youre doing. Its not appreciated. But please, carry on. I won't even interrupt.

OK, so you have absolutely nothing and are trying to play it off like your too good to discuss your opinions because I'm some how beneath you.

I don't think you understand the purpose of debate, it's to comparatively analyze a topic from different points of view (two or more).... That's what I think it is anyway, zero to do with power.

Here's what the dictionary says:

Full Definition of debate

: a contention by words or arguments:
as
a : the formal discussion of a motion before a deliberative body according to the rules of parliamentary procedure
b : a regulated discussion of a proposition between two matched sides

If you want to NOT debate then do you only want to listen to opinions that mirror yours; this is not a very intellectually healthy stance to take.

Posted by Awakening2014 (here)

Posted by TargeT
"25,659,922 whites below the poverty line vs 9,472,583 blacks below the poverty line (11,197,648 hispanics.. where are the hispanic riots??)


The numbers give truth to the lies... and they ARE lies.

Any argument I've heard falls apart after a bit of research (we have been TOLD certain things that just aren't true (surprise surprise??))

"

Doesn't this mean that of the 12.3% of black Americans that about 24% are below poverty. With the information I received from the census bureau that would mean about 12% of white Americans are below poverty. The numbers of white Americans below poverty may be greater than black, but in percentage of each population, black Americans are about twice as likely for poverty.

I am a white American and I know most Americans are caught up in the propaganda and this black vs white bs. It is so devastating to see so many of my brothers and sisters falling for this carefully orchestrated agenda.

That's what I was driving at, I'm saying there ARE issues in that community, but it's not because of systemic racism.. it's because of a culture issue (something I think is absolutely possible to change, but will take time & a lot of mentor-ship).

[AutumnW]

Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
What needs to be said can't be said.

This is still a white dominated world. All other denominations have suffered under the white man's rule.
And don't be fooled - even white has shades...depending on who is standing next to you

This may slowly be changing. It may be more about who has the most money, nowadays.

The American phenomena of race wars is a unique dynamic. In Canada we do not have , sorry, ghettos. And we don't have inner-city gangs. It is these that allow hate to spread and once the flashover point is reached a riot results with surprising ease. In America the inequality based on race is apparent, and is tolerated - for decades! Not much surprise the oppressed lash out from time to time as they have. And now as the economic levers are turned more pressure is placed on the least able to cope. The least able to cope are minorities, single mothers, and the elderly - as these make up the bulk of the "poor".

Race riots may only be the leading edge of a much bigger storm as the financial crisis between the "haves" and "have nots" intensifies. Soon we might be looking at apocalyptic Food Wars.

Whoa...Dude. In Canada we have Indian reservations. We have the 'highway of tears,' where serial killer or killers have been offing aboriginal women for decades and the police have turned their backs in them. We have a truly shameful history. We didn't have black slavery, but would have if we were an older nation.

[TargeT]

Posted by AutumnW (here)

Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
What needs to be said can't be said.

This is still a white dominated world. All other denominations have suffered under the white man's rule.
And don't be fooled - even white has shades...depending on who is standing next to you

This may slowly be changing. It may be more about who has the most money, nowadays.

The American phenomena of race wars is a unique dynamic. In Canada we do not have , sorry, ghettos. And we don't have inner-city gangs. It is these that allow hate to spread and once the flashover point is reached a riot results with surprising ease. In America the inequality based on race is apparent, and is tolerated - for decades! Not much surprise the oppressed lash out from time to time as they have. And now as the economic levers are turned more pressure is placed on the least able to cope. The least able to cope are minorities, single mothers, and the elderly - as these make up the bulk of the "poor".

Race riots may only be the leading edge of a much bigger storm as the financial crisis between the "haves" and "have nots" intensifies. Soon we might be looking at apocalyptic Food Wars.

Whoa...Dude. In Canada we have Indian reservations. We have the 'highway of tears,' where serial killer or killers have been offing aboriginal women for decades and the police have turned their backs in them. We have a truly shameful history. We didn't have black slavery, but would have if we were an older nation.

Slavery didn't officially end in Canada until 1953?? That can't be true, is it?

I'm pretty ignorant of Canadian history.

Modern slavery
Main article: Human trafficking in Canada

Slavery did not end with the ratifying of the Slavery Convention in 1953. Human trafficking in Canada has become a significant legal and political issue, and Canadian legislators have been criticized for having failed to deal with the problem in a more systematic way.[33] British Columbia's Office to Combat Trafficking in Persons formed in 2007, making British Columbia the first province of Canada to address human trafficking in a formal manner.[34] The biggest human trafficking case in Canadian history surrounded the dismantling of the Domotor-Kolompar criminal organization.[35] On June 6, 2012, the Government of Canada established the National Action Plan to Combat Human Trafficking in order to oppose human trafficking.[36] The Human Trafficking Taskforce was established in June 2012 to replace the Interdepartmental Working Group on Trafficking in Persons[37] as the body responsible for the development of public policy related to human trafficking in Canada.[38]

One current and highly publicized instance is the vast "disappearances" of Aboriginal woman which has been linked to human trafficking by some sources.[39] Former Prime Minister Stephen Harper had been reluctant to tackle the issue on the grounds that it is not a "sociological issue"[40] and declined to create a national inquiry into the issue counter to what his opponents say are United Nations and Inter-American Commission on Human Rights' opinions that the issue is significant and in need of higher inquiry.[40][41]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_Canada

[AutumnW]

I don't live in the U.S but can easily see how the disenfranchised can become further excluded through a welfare system that breaks up families, a judicial system that encourages plea bargaining and a prison system that is punitive and excludes those with a record from meaningful employment and often from employment...period. So what to do? Deal drugs maybe?

The system is unfair to the poor who have been excluded from capitalism in many different ways. Neighbourhoods where the poor might have afforded housing were redlined by banks, bought up by landlords at bargain basement prices, with cash only offers.

The poor and particularly those with a criminal record have traditionally had to wade through a minefield of difficulties -- predatory lending, too.

It is ignorant to ignore the macro-aggression and focus on the 'micro-aggressions.' This is totally divisive and gives those who aren't poor or black or both a distorted idea of what is going on. Blacks are f'g well fed up. Their anger and how it manifests may not make immediate sense to many but it totally does to me.

[AutumnW]

Target, I think that article is defining slavery as indentured servitude that many farmworkers in Canada endured and still do. Canadians wear a halo that we don't deserve. We are no different than any other population. We just have lower stress in the upper middle educated class, and that DOES being out the best in people. Also, I would say our system of education is superior and our standing as a weak power astride a super power encourages us to have an outider's appreciation of the world. But we have a blind spot when it comes to our ancestor's mishandling and cruelty towards the original Canadians.

[TargeT]

Posted by AutumnW (here)
Blacks are f'g well fed up. Their anger and how it manifests may not make immediate sense to many but it totally does to me.

I agree, but I think it's very important for any movement to be true to it's motivations & express it's real desires (BLM is disingenuous, by design).

I don't think that is happening now, this very well deserved (by all poor, no race in particular) "Poverty rage" is exactly what we SHOULD have right now.. the wealth inequality globally is horrific.

HOWEVER, this energy is being DIVERTED to a divide and conquer tactic of "race wars"... it's NOTHING to with race, and everything to do with systemic oppression of EVERYONE... we are watching the energy of what could be a useful movement be drained out and diverted... I find it very sad.