Which researchers support the conclusions of David Jacobs on alien abductions?

[Leon55]

Professor David Jacobs says he has discovered that hybrids are integrating in our society (with the help of abductees) and also that they're preparing for some kind of event.

I was wondering if other abduction researchers support his findings? I can't really find any good info on that.

[mojo]

can you share a link about his statement? thanks...

[CurEus]

Linda Moulton Howe interviewed a woman whose blind daughter went to university and shared an apt with a hybrid.

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/guest/...a-moulton/5699

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVCes4gcy9s

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by mojo (here)
can you share a link about his statement? thanks...

The summary is correct... it's a core theme presented in all David Jacobs' recent interviews and books.

He's an extremely solid, careful researcher, and I do think he's on to something maybe very important indeed. Linda Howe supports his work, and (ironically!) Dr Karla Turner certainly would be supporting it if she were still alive... she was on the same track, years earlier.

Posted by CurEus (here)
Linda Moulton Howe interviewed a woman whose blind daughter went to university and shared an apt with a hybrid.

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/guest/...a-moulton/5699
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVCes4gcy9s

The book about this is Raechel's Eyes, by Helen Littrell and Jean Bilodeaux.

http://5thworld.com/Raechel

[eagle0027]

Bill...if you are following this thread would you please comment in if or not the Linda M.H. interview subject is from serpo and part of that exchange.
Thanx Ed

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by eagle0027 (here)
Bill...if you are following this thread would you please comment in if or not the Linda M.H. interview subject is from serpo and part of that exchange.
Thanx Ed

Happy to comment, but please rephrase that so the question is a little clearer! I apologize, but I didn't understand at all what you were asking me.

[eagle0027]

Sorry Bill...in Lindas interview the explanation of where the apparent hybred was from i thought possibly could have been Serpo...and possibly part of that past exchange program that from my understanding you knew much about.Do you think there is any connection with the hybred program and serpo would be the most direct question.Although i do not recall any mention in the serpo material of their eyes having vertical slits.
Thanx again

[mojo]

Here's a recent link that makes mention...
"First and foremost, the abductees are not allowed to remember what happened to them." ~ Dr. David Jacobs

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=EebPP1ci1IE

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by eagle0027 (here)
Sorry Bill...in Lindas interview the explanation of where the apparent hybred was from i thought possibly could have been Serpo...and possibly part of that past exchange program that from my understanding you knew much about.Do you think there is any connection with the hybred program and serpo would be the most direct question.Although i do not recall any mention in the serpo material of their eyes having vertical slits.
Thanx again

No, no connection with Serpo at all.

[mojo]

Do some people remember the abduction experience without regression? Also is it possible that a person could have contact experience for many years and not realize an abduction?

[Flash]

Posted by mojo (here)
Do some people remember the abduction experience without regression? Also is it possible that a person could have contact experience for many years and not realize an abduction?

Yes to your first question. I am not sure to understand the second question.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by mojo (here)
Do some people remember the abduction experience without regression?

Only extremely rarely, unless the ETs want the person to remember. Memory-wipe (or memory-block, to be more accurate) is the normal operation. (And even then, when the memory is recovered, it could be a false 'screen' memory, as an extra 'protective' layer over what actually happened.

Posted by mojo (here)
Also is it possible that a person could have contact experience for many years and not realize an abduction?

Absolutely. David Jacobs (and others agree) states that a person could be a long-time, repeated abductee, and have absolutely no idea any of this has even happened.

His research also indicates that if an abductee recovers one memory, say -- that's only the tip of the iceberg. He says that most abductees, if they've been abducted once, have been abducted many dozens or even hundreds of times.

[Leon55]

This is what is mentioned on wikipedia:

Criticism

Jacobs's hypotheses have been criticised as unsupportably dire by those who take a more positive view of the alien abduction experience such as John E. Mack; Jacobs labels these critics as "positivists" in his writings.[6] Details of alien abductions reported by Jacobs and so-called "positivist" researchers may not differ to any great extent; criticism of Jacobs by such peers therefore focuses on Jacobs's interpretations - e.g., where Jacobs sees "infiltration" (a negative), others may see "integration" (a positive).

Where differences in reports are more substantial (extending beyond the interpretive to actual distinctions between the alleged events reported by those who Jacobs interviews versus those interviewed by others), Jacobs has explained that elements not matching his own perspective are what he terms "confabulations."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_M._Jacobs

Does Jacobs have a particular method that makes sure there are no confabulations?

And how many serious alien abduction researchers are out there and how many of them have found what Jacobs has found...

[neutronstar]

Posted by Leon55 (here)
This is what is mentioned on wikipedia:

Criticism

Jacobs's hypotheses have been criticised as unsupportably dire by those who take a more positive view of the alien abduction experience such as John E. Mack; Jacobs labels these critics as "positivists" in his writings.

I don't necessarily see Jacobs's findings as being negative. They could be, but I can also make an argument that it is positive. I have heard many of his interviews and I don't think he has enought information to determine whether they are positive or negative.

He needs to take a step back and look objectively at the human race. We are pretty dysfunctional. We are a danger to ET's and ourselves. I believe we were tinkered with from the beginning and there is still more work to be done for us to be considered a sane species.

He takes the view that any manipulation is bad. I look at it as if they are doing it to make us a better species, than it's probably for the better. I don't think anybody knows though.

[boja]

It's well worth remembering that......

Many Abductees take years to realise it
Many Abductees take years to admit it.
Many Abductees NEVER realise it.
Many Abductees NEVER admit it.

But that's all quite understandable.

It may also be worth mentioning that Wikipedia is only a guide, -
It CANNOT be relied upon 100%

[mojo]

Can a person put themselves in a state to recall memories? Meditation for example? I'm 100% sure of having not even a hint of being taken or examined yet at the same time 100% sure of visitation and daylight disk taking off outside my bedroom window.

[Curious77]

Leon --
Don't know about researchers -- and don't know if Prof. John Mack had reached any final conclusions about the abductions before his death. I do think he was in some part trying to consider different aspects of abductions than had been considered previously - in spiritual realm, perhaps?

However, it makes sense that the abduction program may have been about sustaining their own lives - therefore, HYBRID would be one step toward doing that. Presumably the HYBRID is dumbed down because it is part human, but perhaps also retains enough intelligence where -- along with other HYBRIDS -- they might at some point be able to offer solutions to us. That's taking a positive view. Too often, however, we seem to see not simply species more intelligent than us, but betraying that intelligence in collaborating with elites here, perhaps. And, even in long ago wars using nuclear weapons?

If this planet was coming to an end -- as they seemed to have been warning some of the abductees about (at least into the 1960's) then they would have known they'd be wasting their time. And from all signs, we are approaching desperate times with increasing Global Warming.

Meanwhile, for those who might watch "Ancient Aliens" -- and I think it is also clear from what survives of communication from much older societies on this planet -- visitors from outer space seem to have always taken control of populations by becoming "Royalty" among them. I think that also gives question to whether the Putin rumors might be true about the "Royal Family" in UK being reptilians.

PS: Loved Prof. John Mack and was very saddened by his death. But, although I tried to stay tuned to his exploration of abductions and aliens -- and I did read at least one of his books, perhaps more? -- all I can really remember is one incident experienced by an abductee reported in one of his books: She woke up and at the foot of her bed, in front of her dresser, was an alien. And he was trying on her high heels.

[mojo]

Thought this might be a good case to examine.

video description: Throughout her life Lisa recalls experiences with Extraterrestrial beings on many different levels of contact. Some are of a physical, 3-Dimensional level, experienced through her physical senses when awake and fully conscious. Others are experienced more on an energetic plain of consciousness, while still others can be described as multi-dimensional communications.

Lisa feels a strong kinship and sense of community with these ET beings, so much so that she describes them like family.

While it may be difficult for many people to distinguish between one's own thinking and imagination, or that of a conscious connection to more subtle levels of consciousness and life, let alone extraterrestrial and inter-dimensional beings, Lisa has made it her life work to open up to these possibilities and communicate them to others.

Says Lisa, "I want people to know its alright to talk about this and to stop being afraid of the stigma of; 'you're crazy'... This is more normal than people want to admit."

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ta0zpaLelXA

[Sunny-side-up]

Posted by mojo (here)
Do some people remember the abduction experience without regression? Also is it possible that a person could have contact experience for many years and not realize an abduction?

I would say, Yes mojo

Probably most of the worlds population has been and is totally unaware they have been.
and or
is programmed to shun the mear mention of the subject/s
Sleepers all

Can a person put themselves in a state to recall memories? Meditation for example? I'm 100% sure of having not even a hint of being taken or examined yet at the same time 100% sure of visitation and daylight disk taking off outside my bedroom windo

Same here mojo, seen many quite near craft now, one of which (A masive blimp shaped pulsating/coloured ship (Cuttlefish craft)) was going to slowly pass over me an a friend, no more that 200 feet up, but then no memories of it passing over me or of my journey home? some for my friend!

[Verdilac]

Posted by Sunny-side-up (here)

Posted by mojo (here)
Do some people remember the abduction experience without regression? Also is it possible that a person could have contact experience for many years and not realize an abduction?

I would say, Yes mojo

Probably most of the worlds population has been and is totally unaware they have been.
and or
is programmed to shun the mear mention of the subject/s
Sleepers all

Can a person put themselves in a state to recall memories? Meditation for example? I'm 100% sure of having not even a hint of being taken or examined yet at the same time 100% sure of visitation and daylight disk taking off outside my bedroom windo

Same here mojo, seen many quite near craft now, one of which (A masive blimp shaped pulsating/coloured ship (Cuttlefish craft)) was going to slowly pass over me an a friend, no more that 200 feet up, but then no memories of it passing over me or of my journey home? some for my friend!

I strongly think there is a trigger, and if the person never gets the trigger they may be oblivious to everything that has happened to them.

For example, 2 total unconnected people I have spoken too in the past year remember being locked in metal boxes as children by people they cannot explain or understand . The only similarity in there background was that they were born within 3 miles of each other and a year apart.

There were no loaded questions, the mentioning of these matters were completely spontaneous and came up in open converstation .

Was this kind of thing part of the deal when we incarnated here, as In ; the group that secured the body to incarnate into comes to collect DNA etc as it was agreed prior to arrival . And if so, is it acceptable or against some code of conduct and so is done covertly, as arriving at a location & putting people in boxes almost seems like smuggling as if the abductee were contraband.

A further question would be is this harvested material being used to grow specimens for food and sport for an off world race.

This ancient depiction is it is very disturbing in my humble opinion and seems to show a reptile headed hunter being give a gift for something from a female with what appears to be a large knife in her left hand. And yes that does also appear to be a human head on a serving tray