Excerpt - Quote from the book 'Advanced Teachings' by Mrs. Endall Beall

[RunningDeer]

Doug Michaels and the Bealls teamed up after discovery of each coming to conclusions from their independent research. The video series is where Doug offers acute commentary and reads excerpts from their books.

The team of three offers personal perspectives from the synthesis of research, experience and the growth of expansion which naturally occurs from openness of exploration.

[RunningDeer]

Posted by earthadvocate (here)
Thank you so much Mr Endall Beal for your long post, if we are to walk that path it will take all the support we can get. The "We are not alone series" have left me almost numb and paralyzed, and it is almost physically difficult to read, but my intuition tells me you are in the truth.

It was an education to watch little ego-self enacted many ploys to not continue with the series. From denial, to avoidance, to berate authors, to financial, to poor comprehension, to no comprehension, to unnecessary busy-ness. The good news is I’ve got squeaky clean windows, a double coat of wax on my car, scrubbed carpets and worn down walking sneakers.

......

[barneythez]

I'm at the bottom of the spiritual ladder, maybe that's why I thought it was a nice poem..............

[Clear Light]

Posted by greybeard (here)
All credit to you Flash--you took the time to check out the videos and website.
Hierarchy is not spiritual its a business model.
Basically you are kept in a system that moves you up grade by grade.
I dont know is that applies to Mrs Endall Beall teachings.

There are plenty of free teaching on the Internet--I like Mooji talks--I feel the love coming out of him.
A good teacher leaves you feeling uplifted and is there to serve you not the other way around.
Not patronizing but sharing.
Meeting you where you stand then moving you on.

Ch

Ah, or perhaps I query, is what you're 'feeling' the Manifestation / Arising of the "Potentials" of YOUR "Natural State" eh ?

[greybeard]

Posted by Clear Light (here)

Posted by greybeard (here)
All credit to you Flash--you took the time to check out the videos and website.
Hierarchy is not spiritual its a business model.
Basically you are kept in a system that moves you up grade by grade.
I dont know is that applies to Mrs Endall Beall teachings.

There are plenty of free teaching on the Internet--I like Mooji talks--I feel the love coming out of him.
A good teacher leaves you feeling uplifted and is there to serve you not the other way around.
Not patronizing but sharing.
Meeting you where you stand then moving you on.

Ch

Ah, or perhaps I query, is what you're 'feeling' the Manifestation / Arising of YOUR "Natural State" eh ?

Yes thats true my friend --if it wasn't within it could not arise.
Mooji was the trigger of remembrance.
That natural state is within all, is all.
Ch

[DNA]

Posted by MrsEndallBeall (here)
As I stated in my reply with the reason I felt compelled to present it "As I stated I felt like sharing the quote because it was an insight I had a long time ago that inspires me every day. I felt the push to post it here because someone else might find inspiration in it as well."

No disrespect, but your quote is rather,,, elementary. Nothing compelling here, nothing to really expand upon.
And in my opinion, certainly not worthy of starting any fuss and or a thread over.
Unless you were going to immediately follow it up with a pertinent connection,,, which you did not.

Posted by MrsEndallBeall (here)
The last time I posted it in a different forum I didn't get the reactions that were presented in here, most people took it at face value and found merit in it. Since this forum presents itself with others that claim to be advance spiritually speaking I figured it would be a safe bet that it would be well received like it had the last time I presented.

What is the definition of "advanced spiritually"?


Are you coming from a religious perspective? Are you coming from a shamanic perspective? Are you coming from a philosophical perspective? I find so often people claiming to be spiritual are masquerading and hoping to place themselves in the position of guru for those openly searching and wanting to find answers. I find nothing more detestable than this in so far as the forum goes, and there are not a few folks here who share that view with me.
Are you here in the hopes of simply selling more copies of your book?

Posted by MrsEndallBeall (here)
I honestly didnt think I'd get the comments that it got, so I chose to use it as an opportunity to share the rest of it I've learned from the parts I had in my book. I posted it out there without asking anyone to comment and the quote itself isn't inflammatory in any way. Once the first food critic opinion showed up, I figure I might as well share the whole post. After I saw the rest, definitely.

The book is called Advanced Teachings and it a name that others that read it suggested for the title and I've had more than enough feedback supporting the content has been aptly named. The title doesn't mean that every word in there is advanced, but don't judge a 350 page book on one paragraph as you and others have done. I did't ask anyone to comment and I certianly didn't tell them what to comment, they did that on their own and you see that my observations in the rest were met. That is on them, not me. But it is a prime example of what I talk about in the rest of my book that people make snap decision and form perceptions in the blink of an eye about something.

There is actually quite a bit to go on.
For instance your forum name.
You chose Mrs.endallbeall. Doesn't this sound a little presumptuous? Egotistical? Arrogant?

Posted by MrsEndallBeall (here)
So seeing this in their behavior will show them where to make corrections.

Really? I seriously doubt that.

Posted by MrsEndallBeall (here)
Thanks for responding, but it has been made very clear, this isn't the place for me. The other forum has much more open minded people that have learned to not make snap judgments without knowing more of the information. in other words, they are more advanced than you guys. But thank you for providing me with more example to share when I share this with others.

You mean they are sheeple eagerly awaiting anyone who shows up and anoints themselves with the title of guru?
You should stick around here. You could learn something.

[animovado]

Mrs. Endall Beall,

I'm glad you responded and the way you did.
Some of the points you made in your post catched my eye, particularly "help" and "control". These are, in my view, interesting topics to explore and it would be interesting for me to look
at how you perceive these ideas.

My response to the mountain analogy wasn't meant disrespectful, but you're right, the title of the thread and the quote itself triggered at least a part of it.
I like the analogy and have been playing with it in the past and, similar to Bill, mountains have a concrete meaning to me, albeit "I know about perspectives", because the view from the top was always a main motivation and a precious moment.

I like to mention, as a side note, that there was a question that wasn't answered (not to you Mrs. Endall Beall), so I will answer it myself:
It matters, because you use it anyway.

It's late in "old europe", I go to bed and wish you a good sunday

[greybeard]

Posted by animovado (here)
Yes, yes Chris.

Sometimes I see doors that aren't there. So whether they're open or closed, does it matter?

Sorry I didn't answer animovado

I dont know but I suspect it doesn't
What matters is "what are you?"

Best wishes
Chris

[animovado]

Is there any context for what "you are"?
Take the question personal, please.

[greybeard]

Posted by animovado (here)
Is there any context for what "you are"?
Take the question personal, please.

Yes
Consciousness tells you what you are.
Without words you know that you exist--you are that awareness that consciousness--it exists without history, your name labels concepts, it is totally self aware.
Personally I can state I know I exist.
Hope that helps.

Sleep calls Good night

Chris

[lunaflare]

Perhaps one needs to attune to the essence of the mountain.
The mountain, one may assume, has the greatest understanding of itself; how we interpret that understanding is our (subjective) opinion.

[AutumnW]

I have an analogy about mountains too. From a distance a mountain is easy to see, from top to bottom and size to side. In that respect it is like ego.

When we have distance from it, we can see it more clearly. The closer we move towards it the more it vanishes, in a sense. We can't see it's top, its outlines or its contrary contours.

The more threatened or hurt I feel, the closer I move towards the mountain of my own ego, but the less capable I am of realizing it. It is too large, for me to comprehend.

[RunningDeer]

Posted by DNA (here)
For instance your forum name.
You chose Mrs.endallbeall. Doesn't this sound a little presumptuous? Egotistical? Arrogant?

Hi Marcus,

While you wait for Gemma's response, here's my perspective:

Many EndAll BeAlls are coming into their own. It's not as you say, presumptuous, egotistical, nor arrogant. They are what many are on the cusp of awakening to and claiming for themselves. Each must do it for themselves.

As mentioned above, after reading many of their books and watching a boat load of videos, my interpretation of the name EndAll BeAll signifies End All the ‘efin’ indoctrination, the false, the control and the implanted stop-gap-technology. Break free of the psychological and emotional manipulation. Break free of egoic control. Be All, claim it, own it, be THAT 100% natural, powerhouse spiritual being. Be All. Stand in your power. Then what we called mystery is only an incremental journey of (fill in the blank).


♡

PS This is the watered down version. There's a whole, whole lot more from their material.

[AutumnW]

Posted by barneythez (here)
I'm at the bottom of the spiritual ladder, maybe that's why I thought it was a nice poem..............

Testament to the possibility you could be the most spiritually refined on this thread, actually.

[Flash]

Thanks Paula

I am laughing alone right now

I thought this name was a true name - you see, many names in English have a foreign connotation for me anyhow, so I took for grantef that the author's name was not a plume name but was his/her true name.

Sometimes I do not understand a word and deduct its meaning based on context. This time I truly missed. And forget double meanings when it is not your mothertongue, they are a true pain to understand. I would never have seen the meanings of that plume name without your explanations.

Same with words I do not know the meanings. Sometimes I am surprised that I still do not know some réguler words in English. This time around, I learned what excerpt meant. I new its equivalent in French but had never encountered it in English and sincerely misunderstood the thread title at first, understanding only later after a few posts that it was a piece from a text.

Non English speakers like me do have a harder time in understanding at times and definitely at writing.

I will write later on about what I saw with the mountain allegory (which I now think is in part culturally biaised after reading many posts here), give my feedback on Bill post (he seems to have misinterpreted mines - I was not thinking it was a joke - and give more feedback on inner programs and beliefs systems. Also on Mr endall Bealls - lol, I even made a name pronunciation in my head completely unrelated to its actual pronunciation or meanings, trying to make sense and remembering a new name. Only people speaking and reading many languages can follow me in this!!!

Lots of confusion

Posted by RunningDeer (here)

Posted by DNA (here)
For instance your forum name.
You chose Mrs.endallbeall. Doesn't this sound a little presumptuous? Egotistical? Arrogant?

Hi Marcus,

While you wait for Gemma's response, here's my perspective:

Many EndAll BeAlls are coming into their own. It's not as you say, presumptuous, egotistical, nor arrogant. They are what many are on the cusp of awakening to and claiming for themselves. Each must do it for themselves.

As mentioned above, after reading many of their books and watching a boat load of videos, my interpretation of the name EndAll BeAll signifies End All the ‘efin’ indoctrination, the false, the control and the implanted stop-gap-technology. Break free of the psychological and emotional manipulation. Be All, claim it, own it, be THAT 100% natural, powerhouse spiritual being. Be All. Stand in your power. Then what we called mystery is only an incremental journey of (fill in the blank).


♡

PS This is the watered down version. Where's a whole, whole lot more.

[MrsEndallBeall]

Thank you for your comment

¤=[Post Update]=¤

The pen name stands for "if we can't END ALL of the ego nonsense, we can BE ALL we can be as a species" fro Demystifying. thank you Running Deer

[MrsEndallBeall]

Thank you. Sharing is important which is why I share my stuff, I don't expect everyone to agree with me but agreements can be done civily and I don't feel the opening comments were done so. You sharing what you just shared is different because you included some of your own insights.

We may carry everything within us, but sometimes we don't interpret it properly or see it clearly and helping others in sharing perspectives is what can better help others understand what they know internally but don't understand or haven't yet realized.

I found for myself, the actual writing process helped me better see and understand more of what I know internally because trying to make it more robust in presentation is what made it more clear to me.

The most positive feed back I've heard from others is that "I knew this but I didn't know how to say it or put it into words". That is how we help others by sharing. More feed back has been "I know this but was unsure, this help me know I'm not alone and gave me validation that I needed". This is why I write.

I remember being fresh on my path and didn't know anything and didn't trust myself. I wish I had someone like me to help give me the confidence to trust in myself and that is why I'm working on being there to help others that want the help to get there and watch them fly.

[DNA]

Posted by MrsEndallBeall (here)
Thank you for your comment

¤=[Post Update]=¤

The pen name stands for "if we can't END ALL of the ego nonsense, we can BE ALL we can be as a species" fro Demystifying. thank you Running Deer

We will never end all of the ego nonsense. Not even on a microcosmic level.


Intellectual pursuits have almost no effect on the ego.
Enlightenment is never a state of being that can be sustained. Enlightenment is having the energy to sustain abstract so called spiritual understanding. Maintaining the energy necessary for true understanding is near impossible, and such the most we can really hope for and work for are moments when we are aligned our spirit, body and mind.


There are two methods for acquiring the spiritual energy necessary to sustain understanding.
1. You can cultivate it through methods described by the Taoists of antiquity, physical methods that demand the mind-body-spirit to work in unison. Once cultivated you then need to recognize the ways in which you bleed this energy off through your everyday actions.


Or

2. You can steal this energy from those around you. Many gurus find they can aquire small glimpses of so called enlightenment through the practices they have learned. They then teach these methods and through acquiring a collection of acolytes they then realize it is much easier to steal the energy from their pupils than it is to continue the daily work, self control and abstinence from indulging in their regular energy syphoning behavior.


I find far more gurus fall under the second heading than the first.

[MrsEndallBeall]

Posted by DNA (here)

Posted by MrsEndallBeall (here)
As I stated in my reply with the reason I felt compelled to present it "As I stated I felt like sharing the quote because it was an insight I had a long time ago that inspires me every day. I felt the push to post it here because someone else might find inspiration in it as well."

No disrespect, but your quote is rather,,, elementary. Nothing compelling here, nothing to really expand upon.
And in my opinion, certainly not worthy of starting any fuss and or a thread over.
Unless you were going to immediately follow it up with a pertinent connection,,, which you did not. Actually, yes I did.

Posted by MrsEndallBeall (here)
The last time I posted it in a different forum I didn't get the reactions that were presented in here, most people took it at face value and found merit in it. Since this forum presents itself with others that claim to be advance spiritually speaking I figured it would be a safe bet that it would be well received like it had the last time I presented.

What is the definition of "advanced spiritually"? My book is titled Advanced Teachings, the definition of advancing is to "move forward in a purposeful way", Advancing Teachings didn't have a nice enough ring to it, so it was suggested Advanced, it wasn't chose by me.


Are you coming from a religious perspective? NO Are you coming from a shamanic perspective? Sort ofAre you coming from a philosophical perspective? No, more of a psychological perspectiveI find so often people claiming to be spiritual are masquerading and hoping to place themselves in the position of guru for those openly searching and wanting to find answers. I find nothing more detestable than this in so far as the forum goes, and there are not a few folks here who share that view with me. We state in all of our work, we are not gurus, become your own authority
Are you here in the hopes of simply selling more copies of your book? No, that is why I didn't mention the book in the texts, being that it is copywrited material I am required to give credit when I pust a public quote

Posted by MrsEndallBeall (here)
I honestly didnt think I'd get the comments that it got, so I chose to use it as an opportunity to share the rest of it I've learned from the parts I had in my book. I posted it out there without asking anyone to comment and the quote itself isn't inflammatory in any way. Once the first food critic opinion showed up, I figure I might as well share the whole post. After I saw the rest, definitely.

The book is called Advanced Teachings and it a name that others that read it suggested for the title and I've had more than enough feedback supporting the content has been aptly named. The title doesn't mean that every word in there is advanced, but don't judge a 350 page book on one paragraph as you and others have done. I did't ask anyone to comment and I certianly didn't tell them what to comment, they did that on their own and you see that my observations in the rest were met. That is on them, not me. But it is a prime example of what I talk about in the rest of my book that people make snap decision and form perceptions in the blink of an eye about something.

There is actually quite a bit to go on.
For instance your forum name.
You chose Mrs.endallbeall. Doesn't this sound a little presumptuous? Egotistical? Arrogant? My husband started writing his books first, he chose the pen name based on this "if people don't END ALL their ego bull****, we cant BE ALL we can be as a species. When I started writing mine, I used Mrs. Endall Beall to keep the books in the series together, which has been explained in our books

Posted by MrsEndallBeall (here)
So seeing this in their behavior will show them where to make corrections.

Really? I seriously doubt that. Actually, there are times when it does work when the people are open minded. Most people are not consciously aware of their behaviors until it is pointed out to them.

Posted by MrsEndallBeall (here)
Thanks for responding, but it has been made very clear, this isn't the place for me. The other forum has much more open minded people that have learned to not make snap judgments without knowing more of the information. in other words, they are more advanced than you guys. But thank you for providing me with more example to share when I share this with others.

You mean they are sheeple eagerly awaiting anyone who shows up and anoints themselves with the title of guru? Since I didn't show up wearing a title or anointing me a guru which I have never and would never do, you are just making assumptions.
You should stick around here. You could learn something.

Oh I have already, but are you willing to learn something?

[MrsEndallBeall]

Posted by DNA (here)

Posted by MrsEndallBeall (here)
Thank you for your comment

¤=[Post Update]=¤

The pen name stands for "if we can't END ALL of the ego nonsense, we can BE ALL we can be as a species" fro Demystifying. thank you Running Deer

We will never end all of the ego nonsense. Not even on a microcosmic level. But that is not stopping us from trying, the ego can be broken it's the habits that take longer to fix


Intellectual pursuits have almost no effect on the ego. I disagree with this, the ego latched on to the intellectualism and makes the intellectual more firmly rooted in their perspectives
Enlightenment is never a state of being that can be sustained. Enlightenment is having the energy to sustain abstract so called spiritual understanding. Maintaining the energy necessary for true understanding is near impossible, and such the most we can really hope for and work for are moments when we are aligned our spirit, body and mind. This I also disagree with, enlightenment is a journey not a destination and you can make it an ever present journey. which is what we share about our journeys.


There are two methods for acquiring the spiritual energy necessary to sustain understanding.
1. You can cultivate it through methods described by the Taoists of antiquity, physical methods that demand the mind-body-spirit to work in unison. Once cultivated you then need to recognize the ways in which you bleed this energy off through your everyday actions. when you learn how you emit and receive energies, you have the choice to use them. Most people do not have control of the energy they emit, I and others I know consciously chose how our energies are emitted and how we use them. It is actually quite easy to do.


Or

2. You can steal this energy from those around you. Many gurus find they can aquire small glimpses of so called enlightenment through the practices they have learned. They then teach these methods and through acquiring a collection of acolytes they then realize it is much easier to steal the energy from their pupils than it is to continue the daily work, self control and abstinence from indulging in their regular energy syphoning behavior. Most people do this without knowing and this kind of energy vampirism is what the controllers do to drain us so they can keep their control. You learn how to control your energy, you control what you take in and emit. The work I do, I do energy exchanges with everything in nature and with stellar energies, these energies become a part of my operating field and mine theirs with their cooperation which expands my energy source that gives the strength for the spiritual knowledge to keep growing as a collective effort.


I find far more gurus fall under the second heading than the first.

Agreed according to your description.