Research paper on The Mandela Effect: strong statistical evidence

[A Voice from the Mountains]

Posted by Zampano (here)
Yes thanks Paula! I meant DNAs thread actually.

One more example of the "Mandela effect" involving a case of poor memory.

On TOT we renamed a thread and another member was claiming Mandela effect over that too, saying he remembered that the thread used to be named something else, as if this were evidence that he had been living in a parallel universe.

[AuCo]

I have read a similar story when the Chinese showed photos of the moon landscape their orbiter took for the first time and a NASA scientist called out that those photos were exactly their own. The scientist was surprised however to find one picture missing a rock in the bottom right corner. Since he recalled studying these pics pretty thoroughly and still remembered so, he went back to the originals and was dumbfounded that there was no rock there either.

[araucaria]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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Here's a hypothesis, and it's a very serious one.

This seems a good time and place to try and tie together a few strands of things I have been saying over a period of time. There are too many links below for anyone to follow: I am not trying to submerge people, it is simply the best way to make my point, namely that this many connections can be made, and that is what makes this subject so fascinating.

The Hillary Clinton business is certainly very strange. Bill suggested somewhere that 2016 was possibly an attempt to get back on track with the negative timeline after her 2008 campaign was derailed. We seem to be running simultaneously through a whole string of different timelines, where she wins, she loses, she drops out, she dies... Someone seems to be clutching at a lot of straws, or rummaging through a bunch of keys and still unable to open a door.

We also still have the case of the missing MH370. I suggested at the time that it may have disappeared into another dimension (in what amounts to a Bermuda triangle event). See here. Now we have an “explanation” of the mystery of the Bermuda triangle. While colleagues at the Guardian recently ridiculed the very idea of a mystery (a “phantom mystery”), The Independent reported in the last week:

Scientists have now claimed that hexagonal clouds creating “air-bombs” with winds of up to 170mph could be responsible for hundreds of unsolved incidents at sea.

This is no explanation: people survive 300 mph storms and there is always plenty of debris as well. I would suppose that a hexagon is merely a 2D projection from above of a 3D phenomenon, a hexahedron in which people get caught up: but where do they go? We still don’t know. For more on the idea that MH370 began “behaving less like a particle than a probability wave” see this post.
I report here how, according to mainstream science (Michio Kaku), “collapsing the wave function is no longer necessary”.

The real mystery will only be solved when these hexagonal clouds are combined with the mother of all hexagonal clouds at the north pole on Saturn, aka Cronus the crow, hence Chronos, Father Time. This brings us to David Talbott’s theory (corroborated by the electric universe theory) of Earth and Venus formerly belonging to a Saturn system. I have looked in a number of posts into how this might actually work – the circumstances needed for these planets to get from that configuration to their presentday one – and into some of the consequences then and now – notably the beginning of time, and the co-existence of two different clocks, a slow one on Saturn way out from the Sun, a much faster one here on Earth. This would of course create a major discrepancy between long-lived creatures seen down here as immortal gods, and us ephemeral creatures seen from up there as little more than fruit flies. Any Saturnian interference would certainly appear to us very clumsy once we began to observe notice it. Notice how the above scenario creates an intermediate race between ET per se and earthlings per se, in a sense a “parent” race, but operating like a dysfunctional family and reaching a make-or-break point, as families do. For my posts on this subject, start here.

Bill’s point about remote viewing turning at some stage into remote influencing obviously makes a great deal of sense even if we see it as an entirely passive process. Remote viewers have indeed reported having been detected and told to get out, which means you do have this possibly interfering presence when you remote view. I have suggested elsewhere that the JFK assassination would be a prime target for remote viewers. They may include some of the many witnesses who “died” shortly afterwards. They may include some of the numerous possible assassins all interfering in the process and giving rise to the utter mess of conspiracy theories trying to make sense of it all. See here.

I recently mentioned a situation where we all become remote viewers of a sort – when we visit an art museum – and what happens when an artist like Manet reacts to our presence.

Then you have the matrix view of reality. I have debated the negative aspect of this issue with former member observer, notably here:
I have also mentioned Stephen King’s novel Under the Dome in a number of posts:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post958325
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post851811
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...l=1#post756603
The last of these is part of a discussion on other lifetimes in connection with time travel. The idea is that if you are having a nonlinear experience of linear time, then it is not only past lives: you might equally be popping in from a later lifetime. This fits in with Dan Burisch’s material. See point 16 here. See also this post.

All the above suggests the following thought experiment. Imagine you want to redecorate your living-room, which over time has turned into a dirty dark gray. Right now it is no colour, and it is every colour because you are at the stage where you have a colour chart from the paint store and are consulting various people. Some remember your house from way back, when it was a beautiful sky blue. Others recall various more recent stages when it was nice in a homely sort of way, i.e. far from ideal, but it brings back happy memories. Then you start getting visitors who last saw it next year, or the year after, and they are saying, “I remember, it’s going to be sky blue”! Then more time travellers come in – ordinary people whose last lifetime was in our future – and a consensus is gradually reached over some shade of luminous sky blue. However, a few people, who know this is the actual future colour, nevertheless call for black, or failing that a very deep blue, because they remember how in their future lifetimes they couldn’t cope with all the brightness.

What I have just described corresponds to a background consensus reality for a given period of time. Of course it is not really like a paint job, with choice followed by execution; it is more like adjusting the brightness on a screen, where choice and execution are parts of the same process. But, from any given personal viewpoint, what you will see is a naturally occurring Mandela effect. If your past or future memory of the particular shade is not spot on (and for most people it won’t be that precise), then you will be more aware of the fast changing reality. The simple fact is that reality is changing too quickly for our own perceptions. If I try explaining to a youngster what life was like in the 1950s, or how dead their now busy town was in the 1970s, they will wonder what planet I am from, and understandably, because that is also how it seems to me

So the Mandela effect may be just the tip of the iceberg which Dolores Cannon called the two earths. Hillary Clinton will disappear from the history books even before they are written, and indeed history books as we know them will themselves fade away into the distance. We won’t be needing the winner’s story (actually the loser’s) any more, once we reach the point when there are no winners and losers, any more than we need to remember how ugly the house had got before we redecorated. You don’t need to imagine the earth literally splitting into two. Hence, when for Michio Kaku we live in a reality where “collapsing the wave function is no longer necessary”, what we are talking about is likely this limbo, this instant of hesitation when collapsing the wave function is still necessary, but actually caught in the moment of collapsing. They say this is the planet of choice. We can theorize about a decor that is every colour of the rainbow, but meanwhile pragmatism dictates that we make a collective choice and live with it for a while, see what a difference it makes.

[Cartomancer]

History to some degree is many times different than what you will read from any given source. It is inexorably tied to political opinions and the shaping of society. You can discern the truth via genealogy and personal correspondance of historical figures many times. In addition the by product of any psy-op or intentional clouding of the waters includes a vast amount of exaggeration often leaving the subject overwhelmed and unable to really understand what is going on. In other words yes there are things different then efforts are made to exaggerate and cover up the what ever they wish to hide. For instance if you really look the U.S. was really created by a small group of Jesuit Catholics who had been kicked out of England over a seventy year period. No one talks about that but we are given a homogonized version of what happened that kind of sticks to a loosely organized narrative. So these kinds of things contribute to people having different memories about history and what they may have been taught when they were young and in school I have misquoted historical facts in interviews I have done so this kind of thing could contribute as well.

Could this be because of some interdimensional distrubance. I guess that is possible but would lean more towards people causing things to be viewed differently. Could some of this be explained by something like people remembering the words to a song or the concept of "Chinese Whispers?"

[BMJ]

Posted by araucaria (here)
We also still have the case of the missing MH370. I suggested at the time that it may have disappeared into another dimension (in what amounts to a Bermuda triangle event).

Relevant to your post. It might be stretching it a bit, but I thought it could have been a bermuda triangle type event also or a shift in timelines which either saw MH370 shifting into another reality or being destroyed by the event.

Looking at the screen shot in the youtube video showing this land mass of Western Australia which is not there as we know it, also being approximately in the same location as the last known position of MH370. Who knows how large an area such an event could have encompassed.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=iTCzkfIvnuE

Below from wikipedia. Map of MH370 flight path with GEOMAR calculations of wing flaperon origin. Note the stated last known position of MH370 being in the same region as this land mass.

[Patient]

A few months ago I listened to a radio show (recorded on you tube) and right now i feel like an idiot for not posting it. At the time I was looking for an answer to the Mandela effect just like everyone here. There was a scientist who apparently use to work at cern(?) and he was talking about the Mandela effect and how it was created. I will continue to search, but I am afraid it was taken down.

Basically what I recall;
D-wave computer connected to google gathering all info of the entire world.
Another D-wave computer more powerful sentient artificial intelligent computer - located somewhere but connected to google and to the computers at the Haldron collider.
This computer uses the collider to do experiments to see how these changes to our reality affects the populace - but to what end?

Considering all that I have researched and the worlds' current events, I see the major "dumbing down" of the people has really been effective. The amount of people that don't seem to care at all about the mandela effects - even those that go "hey! that's weird!" and then they don't care. I know toy collectors who specialize in star wars toys - "C 3PO has a silver leg? No! Look, I have one that is all gold." Then their face changes to no emotion and they move in with their life - where did the passion go? Sorry, I am starting to rant! (I still have passion! LOL)

I am going to try to find that show - whoever that scientists was, I recall hearing anxiety in his voice - his theory, if it was just a theory - really connected the dots.

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While writing that post, I started to get a headache - and now it has turned into a good one with loud ringing in my ears - all I want to do is lay down. I have never really beleived that I could be remotely affected but now I am starting to wonder.

[Hervé]

Posted by Hervé (here)
Star Wars Episode 3 (Revenge.of.the.Sith.2005) C3PO is all golden color by movie end... Episode 4 (A.New.Hope.1977) and the movie starts with C3PO having a "silver" right lower leg... I guess they couldn't find a matching spare part after its last clean up and hard drive reformatting

From Jim Stone:

Mandela effect Star Wars

Anonymous sent:

Interesting Madela effect - tmz article about Fisher death. Slide show has pic with the 2 robots and others and one leg on 3PO is silver. I saw all the flicks when they came out and he never had a silver leg; he was all gold, every film. Bastards..."

My response:

I figured out what happened with the silver leg. Here it is: Star Wars was completely remastered in the 1990's. And at that time, they decided to turn the leg silver. Disney further totally screwed up Return Of The Jedi by totally changing the end of the movie. The beautiful Ewok song has been replaced with a stupid New Age flute, their celebration is totally watered down, and Darth is no longer at the end projected by the force with Obie one, it is instead that stupid turd from the add on episode (I forgot his name, but the next villain). Totally infuriating useless stupid tweaks that had no place and should not have been done. I guess Disney wanted to establish continuity when I really think all they did was anger people who knew what it was before. Since the new stuff is re-hashed old themes I guess they figured the kiddies would not notice.

That's right folks, it is not Mandela effect, it was tampering with the movie and I was completely turned off when they wiped out the Ewok song and replaced it with that stupid new age flute. That just chapped me.

[the_real_dave-id]

I have DVD copies of the original Star Wars films made from the Laserdisc editions (remember Laserdiscs?) that were released BEOFRE Lucas "tampered" with them adding in more monsters, fixing sfx problems and changing whether Boba Fett shot first or not.

In these versions C3PO does indeed have a silver lower right leg. So I believe it was NOT added in when they rejiggered the films.

However, I saw all 3 in the theater when they were released originally and watched them on VHS when they came out and do not remember ever seeing a silver lower right leg. But there it is on early copies before the "upgrade" was done. Hmmmm?

A quick scan of ebay shows early versions of the toy, both vintage and the 1995 re-release editions sporting a completely gold CP3O right leg, while later versions of the action figure have a silver or steel colored one. The midsection of the 1995 toys was done with small amounts of red and blue paint to make the wiring look right... so I doubt they would just leave the right leg all gold if they knew it was supposed to be silver. What could this mean?


While I think Bill's theory of someone experimenting with changing tiny things in the past and watching the results before moving onto changing big things is interesting, it seems to me that if anything was changed in the past there would be no memory or physical evidence of the original in our present. Nobody'd notice, and no toys would be both ways.

I'm leaning towards some kind of dimensional/timeline merge which would possibly allow for people still having both experiences --- Some remembering "stein" and some "stain" as the last part of the name of the bears, for instance.

Maybe all these Mandela Effects are the result of something someone did in the past, rather than them actually messing with these things directly. Dunno. So wish I did.

[Patient]

I have my personal piece of evidence - found a Berenstein Bear story book (as it use to be spelled 'Berenstein'), and my entire family remembers it being spelled that way, however in this old book it has changed to 'Berenstain'. This book has been in our possession - no one came and swapped it out. This isn't something someone switched on the internet. This is something in our hands. Just brings it into your reality that much stronger! (I no longer have my old VHS tapes of Star Wars or I would have reviewed those already.)

[Flash]

Is the Mandela effect worldwide, or is it only in the anglo-saxon world?

If we changed timelines, or anything alike, even so slightly, the Mandela effect should be worldwide, irrespective of languages and local history right?

However, if the effect is only in the Anglo-Saxon world, than we may presume it is either non existent, or the manipulation of memories is being implemented in the Anglo-Saxon world only, the secret test would be in English only, and the history for the English speaking world only.

To start with, Nelson Mandela is part of the Anglo-Saxon world.

Second, is the Mandela effect found in other cultures and other languages?

So, I looked at Snow White, in French. I have one book here with Snow White story, in French, where it is said that the mirror is a magic one in the prose of the text.

However, when the bad Queen ask the mirror, she ask - Mirror, nice Mirror, tell me who is the prettiest - in a web version, the word nice mirror is changed for pretty mirror.

But never is the mirror hanging on the wall or addressed to as hanging on the wall nor addressed as being magic. My memory is with the nice mirror: Miroir, gentil miroir, dis-moi qui est la plus belle!

Therefore, the Mandela effect for Snow White does not exist in French.

So, Hervé and other French people, have you noticed anything that is like the Mandela effect but in French and in our respective cultures?

Same for Spanish speaking people, have you noticed any Mandela effect?

This would give a totally different dimension to the Mandela effect.

On devrait tous faire un rapide tour de table dans nos langues et cultures respectives. À date, je n'en trouve pas en français, ni au Québec.

Porque no buscar a palabras o publicidades con el Mandela effect en espanol o en su cultura propia?

[seehas]

Posted by Flash (here)
Is the Mandela effect worldwide, or is it only in the anglo-saxon world?

If we changed timelines, or anything alike, even so slightly, the Mandela effect should be worldwide, irrespective of languages and local history right?

However, if the effect is only in the Anglo-Saxon world, than we may presume it is either non existent, or the manipulation of memories is being implemented in the Anglo-Saxon world only, the secret test would be in English only, and the history for the English speaking world only.

To start with, Nelson Mandela is part of the Anglo-Saxon world.

Second, is the Mandela effect found in other cultures and other languages?

So, I looked at Snow White, in French. I have one book here with Snow White story, in French, where it is said that the mirror is a magic one in the prose of the text.

However, when the bad Queen ask the mirror, she ask - Mirror, nice Mirror, tell me who is the prettiest - in a web version, the word nice mirror is changed for pretty mirror.

But never is the mirror hanging on the wall or addressed to as hanging on the wall nor addressed as being magic. My memory is with the nice mirror: Miroir, gentil miroir, dis-moi qui est la plus belle!

Therefore, the Mandela effect for Snow White does not exist in French.

So, Hervé and other French people, have you noticed anything that is like the Mandela effect but in French and in our respective cultures?

Same for Spanish speaking people, have you noticed any Mandela effect?

This would give a totally different dimension to the Mandela effect.

On devrait tous faire un rapide tour de table dans nos langues et cultures respectives. À date, je n'en trouve pas en français, ni au Québec.

Porque no buscar a palabras o publicidades con el Mandela effect en espanol o en su cultura propia?

the changes in the bible should indicate that this is a world wide phenomenon, ive just learned about it a few days ago and im still a little shocked

what i found out so far is that there seem to be every month new "effects" seems to be an interesting year.

did you guys see the mona lisa? for me this looks like a fake and not the one i remember or maybe im going crazy?

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Patient (here)
I have my personal piece of evidence - found a Berenstein Bear story book (as it use to be spelled 'Berenstein'), and my entire family remembers it being spelled that way, however in this old book it has changed to 'Berenstain'. This book has been in our possession - no one came and swapped it out. This isn't something someone switched on the internet. This is something in our hands. Just brings it into your reality that much stronger! (I no longer have my old VHS tapes of Star Wars or I would have reviewed those already.)

Yes... see my post #20, here:

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
My first encounter with the Mandela Effect (not even called that then) was several years ago, when I was copied in on an e-mail conversation between Mars image researchers. One swore blind that a certain feature was present, and the other agreed, but then when they went to check their printed hard-copy photos, the photos had changed. They were dumbfounded.

Memories aren't actually in the physical universe, per se. The past changes... but the non-physical traces (memories) don't.

[bluestflame]

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[seehas]

i just found a realy interesting comment in youtube and i will post it for you all, tell me what you think about it.

[Smell the Roses]

Does anyone remember with certainty what was going on in your life when you heard the news about the government attack on Waco. Without looking it up, what year was it for you?

[Smell the Roses]

Posted by seehas (here)
i just found a realy interesting comment in youtube and i will post it for you all, tell me what you think about it.

This YouTube comment is a plausible hypothesis. It is clear that many humans have fully bought in to the mass-media promoted false reality. I like the idea of a covert coded whistleblower.

[Honesty]

..........

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by iAMWE (here)
I do not recall there being a large land mass west of Australia...

No kidding.

That isn't there, never was there, and never will be there.

And if you play the video, to see the globe spinning, I can't see New Zealand...

I'm downloading a 1080p version of Dazed and Confused, and I'll post a high-resolution freeze frame or clip to see what the strange object on the globe looks like.

[Bill Ryan]

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Here's the 3 second video clip of the spinning globe, 1080p BluRay, very high resolution:

• http://projectavalon.net/Dazed_and_C...Globe_clip.mov (14.5 Mb)

or

• http://projectavalon.net/Dazed_and_C...Globe_clip.mp4 (1.9 Mb, smaller file)

(New Zealand is there, if you nudge it forward frame by frame and look very closely.)

[Hervé]

It's just a warning to adventurers that: "There Be Monsters!"

You know... like so:

Rand McNally & Company
12-Inch Art Deco Terrestrial Table Globe
Chicago: c. 1940
https://www.georgeglazer.com/globes/...glassbase.html