Transition into Trump

[Whiskey_Mystic]

It is exhausting to me that people on the left think everyone on the right is brainwashed and mind-controlled. Meanwhile, people on the right think that everyone on the left is brainwashed and mind-controlled. This is a great way to invalidate the thoughts, opinions, and perspectives of people who disagree with you. This is great because then you never have to rethink your own position. Now we can comfortably refrain from understanding the other and can keep our existing reality model intact. Hooray!

[greybeard]

Yes Whiskey--name any position and there will be people of opposing view point
I put it down to ego--the need to be right--even more so in a group--that proves how right I am--other confirm this.
The ego would rather its host die than be proved wrong.

So thats my opinion on it.

Chris

[Cidersomerset]

Elections vs. Reality - Newsbud Roundtable

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=Rrij0CquepM

Published on 20 Nov 2016


SHOW NOTES: https://www.corbettreport.com/?p=20500

via Newsbud.com: In this week’s edition of Newsbud’s Roundtable Spiro Skouras is
Joined by Newsbud Founder Sibel Edmonds, Newsbud Sr. Producer Kurt Nimmo and
James Corbett of Corbett Report to discuss potential candidates of the Trump Cabinet.
We also discuss the indoctrination process of the youth in public schools and Sibel
issues a call to action against the two-party system indoctrination.

[turiya]

Trump "Exploded" At Media Execs
During Off-The-Record Meeting:
"It Was A F--king Firing Squad"
by Tyler Durden
Nov 21, 2016 5:59 PM

Earlier today we reported that in a "summit" organized by Trump's campaign manager Kellyanne Conway, executives and anchors from the major US media outlets, including CNN president Jeff Zucker, ABC News president James Goldston, Fox News co-presidents Bill Shine and Jack Abernethy, and NBC News president Deborah Turness, visited Donald Trump at his Trump Tower penthouse for an off the record meeting.

Courtesy of the Post, we have a complete list of the participants at the Trump media meeting: the hour-long powwow included top execs from network and cable news channels. Among the attendees were NBC’s Deborah Turness, Lester Holt and Chuck Todd, ABC’s James Goldston, George Stephanopoulos, David Muir and Martha Raddatz, CBS’ Norah O’Donnell, John Dickerson, Charlie Rose, Christopher Isham and Gayle King, Fox News’ Bill Shine, Jack Abernethy, Jay Wallace, Suzanne Scott, MSNBC’s Phil Griffin and CNN’s Jeff Zucker and Erin Burnett.

The contents of what was discussed were initially unclear.

Now, according to the Post, we learn that the President-elect "exploded at media bigs in an off-the-record Trump Tower powow on Monday."

“It was like a f—ing firing squad,” one source told the Post.

According to the Post's recound of the conversation, “Trump started with Jeff Zucker and said I hate your network, everyone at CNN is a liar and you should be ashamed…."

Jeff Zucker (left)

“The meeting was a total disaster. The TV execs and anchors went in there thinking they would be discussing the access they would get to the Trump administration, but instead they got a Trump-style dressing down,” the source added. A second source confirmed the encounter.

The Post adds that “the meeting took place in a big board room and there were about 30 or 40 people, including the big news anchors from all the networks…"

“Trump kept saying, ‘We’re in a room of liars, the deceitful dishonest media who got it all wrong. He addressed everyone in the room calling the media dishonest, deceitful liars. He called out Jeff Zucker by name and said everyone at CNN was a liar, and CNN was network of liars.

“Trump didn’t say Katy Tur by name, but talked about an NBC female correspondent who got it wrong, then he referred to a horrible network correspondent who cried when Hillary lost who hosted a debate – which was Martha Raddatz who was also in the room.

“Gayle did not stand up, but asked some question, ‘How do you propose we the media work with you?’ Chuck Todd asked some pretty pointed questions. David Muir asked how are you going to cope living in DC while your family is in NYC? It was a horrible meeting."

Amusingly, since the meeting was off the record, meaning the participants agreed not to talk about the substance of the conversations, it means they will most likely be unable to confirm or deny the Post's report. It also means that if indeed Trump was as confrontational as reported, that the conventional war between the various US media organizations and Trump is about to go nuclear.

SOURCE

[Bob]

opinions opinions... media is 'hurt' that President Elect called them out on the carpet..

http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-med...tension-231727

Politico calls it this way:

The source who spoke with POLITICO characterized the meeting as less intense, and said the discussion included Trump expressing the possibility of a “reset” of the tumultuous relationship between the president-elect and the media and that all he wants is “fairness.”

Asked how he defines fairness by a network executive, Trump said simply, “The truth.”

But aside from the few moments of contention in the beginning, the source said the meeting was largely substantive.

He did NOT explode.. he emphasized, report the TRUTH

Trump, flanked by chief of staff Reince Priebus and campaign manager Kellyanne Conway at the table, also expressed annoyance at the protective press pool and the complaints over him ditching the press when he went out to dinner last week with his family after reporters were advised he was in for the night. But Priebus assured the attendees that the protective press pool will be taken care of and it would all work out.

Other attendees at the meeting from Trump's team included chief strategist Stephen Bannon, Trump’s son-in-law Jared Kushner, spokesman Jason Miller, and Republican National Committee chief strategist and communications director Sean Spicer.

Asked for comment, Miller referred POLITICO to Conway’s comments to reporters after the meeting, in which she echoed the sentiments made in the meeting about turning over a new leaf with the media.

“There was no need to mend fences,” Conway said. “It was very cordial, very genial. But it was very candid and very honest. From my own perspective, it’s great to hit the reset button.”

Conway later on Monday hit back at the New York Post report. “He did not explode in anger,” she said.

as they say, 'we shall see' how media chooses to spin and CYA for supporting Hillary more-so and more biased.. Pick ur media MSM reporting source for the current "interpretation"..

[norman]

Ringside With Steve Bannon at Trump Tower as the President-Elect's Strategist Plots "An Entirely New Political Movement"





He absolutely — mockingly — rejects the idea that this is a racial line. "I'm not a white nationalist, I'm a nationalist. I'm an economic nationalist," he tells me. "The globalists gutted the American working class and created a middle class in Asia. The issue now is about Americans looking to not get f—ed over. If we deliver" — by "we" he means the Trump White House — "we'll get 60 percent of the white vote, and 40 percent of the black and Hispanic vote and we'll govern for 50 years. That's what the Democrats missed. They were talking to these people with companies with a $9 billion market cap employing nine people. It's not reality. They lost sight of what the world is about."


http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...ovement-948747

[turiya]

Seems Donald Trump has 'Fired' the MSM & is now providing his own news via Twitter account...

New Trump Transition Team vid...

.@transition2017 update and policy plans
for the first 100 days.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=tsQnd7jLvOU

Titter Link:

______________________________

Trump Transition Team is considering Ben Carson for a position...

I am seriously considering Dr. Ben Carson as the head of HUD. I've gotten to know him well--he's a greatly talented person who loves people!

9:10 AM - 22 Nov 2016

Titter Link:

[TODD & NORA]

http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/11...a-red-herring/

This and other reports to be released will invalidate election results...BEFORE January 20th.

[turiya]

Posted by TODD & NORA (here)
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/11...a-red-herring/

This and other reports to be released will invalidate election results...BEFORE January 20th.

Sorry, but Gordon Duff has joined the MSM Propaganda Machine... he's been incessantly after Trump trying to link Donald Trump to the Russian mafia, the mafia in New York [Roy Cohn]... he's been getting more & more bazaar as of late...

Gordon Duff:

"Al Gore would have been a great president"

Wikileaks is run by Saudi & Israeli Intelligence... as well as Jill Stein... who's role is to help Trump be elected...

Trump's a Pathological Liar... and a Scum Bag... a Reality TV Star and hated by anyone with education in the U.S. [own note: i.e. called brainwashing]... he's been a despicable, nightmarish character for years... Everyone around him is organized crime...

On the otherhand, Hillary Clinton is politics as usual... at least its Democratic Party politics... its anti-Big Banking...

John Kerry has been an outstanding Secretary of State... as a Great Secretary of State, He would have been a Great President... as Al Gore...

Hillary's Domestic Policies are Outstanding... for the American People... for education [think Common Core]... for the Environment... for bring New Jobs [think TPP]... she's LOVED for those things...

She's corrupt for what? The Clinton Foundation is Outstanding... The Trump Foundation is Utterly Corrupt...

The email stories... There was nothing in the Emails... [funny how Clinton or her Team never denied what was in the emails... but only that they were illegally obtained... by the Russians]...

US election a choice between
"queen of corruption & predator king"
(Published on Nov 7, 2016)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=JbyEgHaF6jM

[TargeT]

Posted by norman (here)
Ringside With Steve Bannon at Trump Tower as the President-Elect's Strategist Plots "An Entirely New Political Movement"





He absolutely — mockingly — rejects the idea that this is a racial line. "I'm not a white nationalist, I'm a nationalist. I'm an economic nationalist," he tells me. "The globalists gutted the American working class and created a middle class in Asia. The issue now is about Americans looking to not get f—ed over. If we deliver" — by "we" he means the Trump White House — "we'll get 60 percent of the white vote, and 40 percent of the black and Hispanic vote and we'll govern for 50 years. That's what the Democrats missed. They were talking to these people with companies with a $9 billion market cap employing nine people. It's not reality. They lost sight of what the world is about."


http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/new...ovement-948747

Wow, this guy seems like an exact fit for his new position.. check out this article (super long.)

Here's my favorite part of it:

The theme is all the same. And the theme is middle-class and working-class people — they’re saying, “Hey, I’m working harder than I’ve ever worked. I’m getting less benefits than I’m ever getting through this, I’m incurring less wealth myself, and I’m seeing a system of fat cats who say they’re conservative and say they back capitalist principles, but all they’re doing is binding with corporatists.” Right? Corporatists, to garner all the benefits for themselves.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/lesterfeder...Y4#.eq9OkBzAV4

I'm not so much into the religious angle he pushes, but that's exactly the kind of stuff I want to hear.

[Billy]

Posted by TODD & NORA (here)
http://www.veteranstoday.com/2016/11...a-red-herring/

This and other reports to be released will invalidate election results...BEFORE January 20th.

I think the VT members who are commenting on the GD article are more switched on than GD.

One example and there are many more such comments.

It doesn't matter if it was done by Edison or whoever. Exit polling can easily be manipulated and how do we possibly know whether or not it was? We don't. To write an entire article saying that Trump stole the election via rigging based on their exit polling data is just beyond irresponsible. In all honesty VT has become nothing but an anti Trump propaganda site in recent months.

[TrumanCash]

TRUMP NOT PURSUING CLINTON INVESTIGATIONS


Well, well, well--We finally see the real Donald Trump. He won't prosecute Hillary after repeatedly spouting that he would. This may have been the main issue that got him (s)elected. No accountability in government, folks. New boss same as the old boss. Move along, folks--nothing to see here.

He has lied so much and over and over again. He can no longer be trusted. He has definitely demonstrated that he is one of the elitists.

Reminds me of a Simon and Garfunkel song: "Laugh about it, shout about it when you've got to choose; every way you look at it you lose."

Also interesting that the joker in a deck of cards is a "trump" card.

It will also be interesting to watch the cognitive dissonance set in with the trumpsters.

[Bob]

If you recall my post about what I felt (fly on the wall) about him being read "da rules" during his meeting with Obama the very first time, that he was "allowed" to be "elected"... and the rules are Hillary will be pardoned (by Obama), if pressed, that he would just not pursue prosecuting 'hillary and crew'.. A fly on the wall high enough up would be able to read in between the lines.. If he did try to push for 'prosecuting' hillary et crew, chances are, the 'vote' would be contested, the electors 'challenged' and a country in more confusion than we all have now.. My suggestion is WAIT till after January 20th 2017 and then start to evaluate what all is happening. I also said look at the photographics before the election, and right after, and now. Photos say a lot if the expressions, and body language can be read... just my opinion..

[turiya]

Posted by Bob (here)
If you recall my post about what I felt (fly on the wall) about him being read "da rules" during his meeting with Obama the very first time, that he was "allowed" to be "elected"... and the rules are Hillary will be pardoned (by Obama), if pressed, that he would just not pursue prosecuting 'hillary and crew'.. A fly on the wall high enough up would be able to read in between the lines.. If he did try to push for 'prosecuting' hillary et crew, chances are, the 'vote' would be contested, the electors 'challenged' and a country in more confusion than we all have now.. My suggestion is WAIT till after January 20th 2017 and then start to evaluate what all is happening. I also said look at the photographics before the election, and right after, and now. Photos say a lot if the expressions, and body language can be read... just my opinion..

Agree with you, Bob. Best to focus on getting things going on the 1st 100 days (campaign promises)... plenty of time to look at Clinton Foundation Fraud investigation, as I believe there is no statute of limitations on cases of fraudulent activities...

Its also my view that the Clintons, especially Hillary is a very sick woman, not only physically, but mentally. In fact, the present Criminal Justice System really functions rather poorly when it comes to having criminals becoming 'normal' functioning individuals within a society... Anybody who comits heinous crimes is a sick individual - the cure is not found in punishment. Being imprisoned, only has a high percent of that individual learning how to become more skilled at not getting caught... Prison is a school for the criminally insane... (plenty mentors can be found within those walls).

Hillary will meet her maker soon enough, imo....

[Bob]

Posted by turiya (here)

Posted by Bob (here)
If you recall my post about what I felt (fly on the wall) about him being read "da rules" during his meeting with Obama the very first time, that he was "allowed" to be "elected"... and the rules are Hillary will be pardoned (by Obama), if pressed, that he would just not pursue prosecuting 'hillary and crew'.. A fly on the wall high enough up would be able to read in between the lines.. If he did try to push for 'prosecuting' hillary et crew, chances are, the 'vote' would be contested, the electors 'challenged' and a country in more confusion than we all have now.. My suggestion is WAIT till after January 20th 2017 and then start to evaluate what all is happening. I also said look at the photographics before the election, and right after, and now. Photos say a lot if the expressions, and body language can be read... just my opinion..

Agree with you, Bob. Best to focus on getting things going on the 1st 100 days (campaign promises)... plenty of time to look at Clinton Foundation Fraud investigation, as I believe there is no statute of limitations on cases of fraudulent activities...

Its also my view that the Clintons, especially Hillary is a very sick woman, not only physically, but mentally. In fact, the present Criminal Justice System really functions rather poorly when it comes to having criminals becoming 'normal' functioning individuals within a society... Anybody who comits heinous crimes is a sick individual - the cure is not found in punishment. Being imprisoned, only has a high percent of that individual learning how to become more skilled at not getting caught... Prison is a school for the criminally insane... (plenty mentors can be found within those walls).

Hillary will meet her maker soon enough, imo....

The first 100 days will say it no doubt. I would think, the focus currently is "calmness" (as best as the Pres-Elect can 'calm' any situation), get the radical pendulum at as close to the neutral point as possible. Then watch. Read each executive order closely, with an eye on the past (being changed), the present being observed, and what future outcomes will ensue from the action(s).

[KiwiElf]

Perhaps we need to take a "wait and see" approach. I've read several posts on other sites which agree with Trumans' post (above) and others which amplify the exact opposite. None of it is "official" (ie from Trump himself), and a lot of it is amped up & highly exaggerated speculation depending on their bias. We all know the future isn't written in stone, (and frankly, I wouldn't believe much from CNN).

In any case, Hillary, as an individual, has effectively been stripped of any power or influence she may have once wielded. Considering reasonable reports confirmed of her ill health, she is no longer really a problem. In moving forward, will it really serve any useful, positive purpose to convict her now? She's a part of the "swamp", but only a small part. The Clinton Foundation & the Podesta pedo situation is another matter - they are much bigger fish to fry. There's too much info out there now for that to just "disappear".

[TrumanCash]

Actually, it wasn't from CNN. It comes from Trump's very own Kellyanne Conway and from his very own lips that the Clinton's are "good people".

Quoted by Bloomberg, Conway said on MSNBC that "I think when the president-elect...tells you before he’s even inaugurated he doesn’t wish to pursue these charges it sends a very strong message -- tone and content -- to the members," Trump adviser Kellyanne Conway said on MSNBC.

Following MSNBC report that a source said Trump wouldn’t pursue Hillary Clinton investigations, Conway was asked whether Trump would encourage congressional Republicans to stay away from Clinton investigations as well in order to focus on legislative agenda

"I think Hillary Clinton still has to face the fact that a majority of Americans don’t find her to be honest or trustworthy but if Donald Trump can help her heal then perhaps that’s a good thing"

"I think he’s thinking of many different things as he prepares to become the president of the United States and things that sound like the campaign aren’t among them"

Reminds me of Dubya's statement: “There's an old saying in Tennessee — I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee — that says, fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.”

[KiwiElf]

Errr my comment re CNN wasn't aimed at your source Truman, just a generalisation In any case, my above post stands. There really is no point in prosecuting Hillary - the court of public opinion will do that .

Making any promise before you become the POTUS is one thing. The reality of what you can do as POTUS is another thing altogether.

[Whiskey_Mystic]

Posted by KiwiElf (here)
In any case, Hillary, as an individual, has effectively been stripped of any power or influence she may have once wielded. Considering reasonable reports confirmed of her ill health, she is no longer really a problem.

I don't think we have seen the last of the Clintons. Rumor has it that Chelsea is considering running for office. If so, Bill and Hill will focus on grooming her. After all, someone needs to be in Washington protecting the family fortune, right? I don't think we've seen the last of the Bushes either.

[TrumanCash]

I certainly hope that there will be at least a few positive changes with Trump, but I'm not holding my breath on any thing he has said so far.

The last time a president tried to make some really significant changes was JFK and we all know what happened to him. Bypassing the Federal Reserve and firing Allen Dulles was probably enough to have gotten him assassinated. I would think that Trump would know that too much of a change would get him whacked by the CIA, et al, as well.