Bill Ryan

[Astra]

Bill Ryan is a fine, wise and courageous gentleman ... I think this quote suites him just fine:

“Courage is the first of human qualities because it is the quality which guarantees the others.”
Aristotle

[mondaze]

i for one want to thank you bill. i found camelot about three years ago, and have watched everything you and kerry have put out since. you maintain the highwire act with great alacrity. you ask the right questions at the right time and do not push a particular line which is most unusual. attack the message if you must people... but not the messenger!

[noxon medem]

Posted by mondaze (here)
i for one want to thank you bill. i found camelot about three years ago, and have watched everything you and kerry have put out since. you maintain the highwire act with great alacrity. you ask the right questions at the right time and do not push a particular line which is most unusual. attack the message if you must people... but not the messenger!

This illustrate the importance of a thread like this.
- You refer to Bill Ryan as "the messenger", a confusion I see more people expose lately on the forum.
If you talk about the "Rulers"-material, the messenger is "Charles" (and your golden rule still valid).

I have seen Bill refer to his position as an interface, a journalist, an investigator and even a teacher.
Never the (their) messenger (in this case).
- That is a mix of roles that he should be aware to avoid, and we should be aware to avoid that confusion.
A comment of clearification on this from Bill would be nice. ( and a good advice )

[mondaze]

Posted by noxon medem (here)
This illustrate the importance of a thread like this.
- You refer to Bill Ryan as "the messenger", a confusion I see more people expose lately on the forum.
If you talk about the "Rulers"-material, the messenger is "Charles" (and your golden rule still valid).

I have seen Bill refer to his position as an interface, a journalist, an investigator and even a teacher.
Never the (their) messenger (in this case).
- That is a mix of roles that he should be aware to avoid, and we should be aware to avoid that confusion.
A comment of clearification on this from Bill would be nice. ( and a good advice )

i was using a common aphorism and did not intend to suggest he was providing the message.

[noxon medem]

Hello Bill.
- A story about cats. As promised.
( just wanted to be sure of a happy ending before sharing it )

On the "Evolution"-thread, you used the cats, the human view of cats,
as a methaphore on the "Managers" view upon humanity at large.

The scanario of starving us all to death does not play well with the image
of the cat being taken for the last visit to the veterinarian, in my view.
Maybe putting the cats into wilderness could get closer, but the cats are
probably much better equipped than us humans in such a scenario.
(so I am suggesting you work on that methaphore, if using it at all)

- Anyhow, this is how the story go :
This is also about synchronicity, because the same day you used
that analogy of the cats being taken to the vet, this happened :

A friend called me, and asked if I wanted a cat.
Here is two allready, so I said no.
Oh,she replyed. WE cannot handle this, here are
six kittens and the mother, and we ourselves have
just got a child. It is too much. Half of the kittens
have to be "put to sleep" because here is a chaos.

I took half of the kittens to my home. Advertising them around.
Today I delivered the last two, and all of them now have
perfect new homes. I have even arranged for a fourth one
to be relocated also, some two weeks from now.
Then it will be managable levels for everyone.

Here they are:



And lots of love to you, Bill.
You are a remarkable man.


nm

[Capt Kent]

Good job. Capt Kent

[Star Gazer]

Thank you for enduring Their slings and arrows, Bill Ryan.

-"I will bend like a reed in the wind."

[fifi]

Hi Bill,

I've just learnt from one of Atticus's post (can't remember which page it is in that long thread of Questions for Charles - ONLY! ) that you are willing to meet the Council of "33", and agree to put your hand through some kind of loop, and that if you are not honest at some point, you will lose your hand. And you agree to this! That proves that you are such an HONEST and COURAGEOUS person with A LOT of INTEGRITY. You are my hero, Bill, but I beg you to reconsider this. Because what if you are undecided, or not sure of how to answer some questions, I don't want any harm to come to you.

With much love and respect,
Fifi

[Mike]

darkstar? darkstar? anyone else here hear the echo? i was hoping he'd come back and reenlighten those of us falsely illuminated, mumbo jumbo talking, delusional wanna-be buddhas. lol!(haven't figured out the smiley face yet)

no, in all seriousness i admire what i believe to be the honorable intent here. it's just that a few of the comments conjure this sort of "if you're against the war, you're not a patriot" feel, if you'll forgive the analogy. i think most of us agree that bill is a well-intentioned man of great integrity, but there needs to be room for those who might disagree with him-if done respectfully, of course. i'm sure bill would agree.