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    Seen this Video in another Thread, but it fits here:
    It´s good to see that many Young People wake up to this stuff.



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    I believe that this band Heavy Breathing, which has performed at Comet Ping Pong and appear to be affiliated and friends with these people, is comprised of people who are themselves victims of childhood abuse and mind control/programming. This is why they produce such strange and disturbing visuals (look at their videos, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zo_euND7Acs, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oicUO0sz08c)

    Again, as with everything else playing into this pizzagate thing, WHY would somebody running a "family friendly" establishment like a pizza shop host a group like this???

    http://dcmusicdownload.com/2012/09/2...avy-breathing/

    DMD: What’s your creative process when coming up with all band’s collages?

    EJ: Sometimes, I get the images from Amanda, because she does a lot of drawings-so I incorporate that. But yeah, I do the majority of the collages. I do a lot of visual arts, that’s what my other gig is. I think over the years, we’ve had an aesthetic interest. I always find humorous stuff, there are a lot of sexual images as well as violence-but I don’t find them to be violent in terms of being horrific as I find them to be more optimistic-or I find them more feeling of just what I associate with a good time.

    But there’s sometimes an element of maybe danger. Or, a lot of it is based on growing up, and our siblings were older and they had sketchy friends that would go out into the woods and listen to music and get high. Or, sit in a van and get high. It comes from more of the images of that place. Growing up, you’re drawn to it because there was danger to it and the unknown. There was the unknown, and you assume your mind created the world, and you know you’re like “Wow, what are they doing-what’s going on out there? I hear this music playing”.

    Or before YouTube, you couldn’t see what happened during a show. Like someone would come back to school the next day and you’d ask them what they did last night. And they would say, “Oh! We went to this show, it was nuts! This guy got stabbed!”. In your head, you’ve built it up to where you think that when every time this band plays, bloods shoots out everywhere and so on, and it’s exciting. But if you saw it on YouTube, it wouldn’t be all that exciting. It probably wouldn’t look cool at all, but your brain actually builds up these images.

    https://hometownsoundsdc.com/2013/12...avy-breathing/

    As if you weren’t already aware, Hometown Sounds and Showlist DC have come together to host a stacked show this evening at Tropicalia (14th & U), featuring Tereu Tereu, The Jet Age, and Heavy Breathing. In anticipation for the event, Hometown Sounds reporter Tony Porreco sat down with Heavy Breathing’s Amanda Kleinman (Keyboards) and Erick Jackson (Guitar) for a wide ranging discussion including the inspiration behind the creepiness of the band’s live show and the importance of a band’s perceived edginess, the origin story of Kleinman’s signature ski mask look, and their recent reunion to record as their previous musical incarnation, The Apes.

    Tell me about the origin of Heavy Breathing’s twisted visual aesthetic.

    Erick Jackson: I think that’s what we’re always drawn to in part? We don’t see it as twisted.

    Amanda Kleinman: All three of us are very visual people. So color schemes, all of the cinema from our childhood, the teen culture, the weird eras of kidnappings and bomb scares and Vietnam movies. All the imagery we were watching when we were kids, like New York City.

    EJ: Yeah, like basement culture.

    AK: All of that, it becomes a part of your neural wiring, and weird childhood experiences expose you to darkness.

    EJ: Yeah, we grew up in a time where we were influenced by certain aesthetics like comics and then violent movies and then rock n’ roll and then memories of burnouts and siblings, just stories that you experience.

    AK: Music should mean danger, music should be something edgy.

    EJ: And I always remembered being drawn to music because I was a little scared of things, where I was like, “Is this good, or is this trouble?” Like, especially going to shows, like, “Am I going to get beat up at this show or am I going to get mugged? Where is this show even at? Is it dangerous? Who’s going to go with us?” There was a sense of adventure. And danger was a big part of it.

    AK: And I think even now, our imagery has sexuality: Neither one of us are super sexual people, but we feel like there needs to be some kind of edge.

    EJ: Well, I think music should be sexual.

    AK: A lot of the newer, younger bands –

    EJ: You look around, they’re not very sexual.

    AK: I don’t get any vibe from people.

    EJ: Everything’s neutered, and not visceral.

    AK: Neutered and soft and friendly. I have a hard time connecting with it simply because of how we grew up.

    I actually get spooked when I see you perform. In an era when there’s a general devaluation of music on account of its availability and ease of dissemination, do you think that the use of “fear” or “shock value” is one of the few tactics remaining to bands to get attention?

    AK: I think we’re just getting off. I don’t care what anyone thinks, and honestly, what everyone’s perception is, I’m not interested.

    EJ: That’s true. I don’t even think we think of things as, “Oh, this is shocking.”


    So the way you present the band (e.g. costumes, projectors, fog) is less about you trying to stand out from the pack, and more of keeping things interesting for yourselves?

    AK: There is no agenda. There’s no reward.

    EJ: Well, it keeps you busy.

    AK: Yeah, I’m busy. But there’s no big offers, there’s no tour bus. We just have to keep getting excited.

    EJ: Well, it’s going to entertain you. And then you worry about entertaining somebody. Half of the things we’ve done, I don’t think it’s shock value. It’s more like, “Well, that’d be fun.” or “That’d be interesting.” or “Have we tried doing this? Let’s see what happens.” Because the process of playing shows a lot of times becomes like a job where you know what’s going to happen: You get there, soundcheck. So you’ve always got to think of things that keep it fresh for yourself and you try to do it through the music, but also if you want to have fun, and you want to get loose, because I mean, I think we all play music in the band because we want to get loose.

    So oddly enough, your live act is more about you guys having fun and creating an experience for yourselves rather than for the audience?

    AK: But I do want to put on a great show. When we started this band, I’d always felt a deficit with Apes. I felt like the visual things that I could conjure in my head could never happen because I didn’t have the resources and I had so many other things to worry about between the van, the sounds, navigating personality disorders in the band… It’s not just about us. I want that **** to look good. And the only time I ever have a diva temper tantrum is when the fog machines aren’t working, or [the booker] says, “No [to the visuals]”, and then I’m like, “I don’t want to play”, because I need that visual component. Or if someone doesn’t do their laser timing right, like, “I did my job! I practiced 8000 times!”

    It sounds like you’re fairly selective about the shows you play.

    EJ: Well, I think a big thing is we could just do more shows where it’s just like, “Oh, we’re just going to set up and play.” And that’s cool, but we’ve done that a lot, and there’s so many shows where it’s like a four band bill and I always feel like the music’s an afterthought, like, “Oh ****, we’re running out of time, oh ****, can you get your **** on stage really fast?”, and it’s this whole thing where you’re wondering, “Why are there four bands on this bill?” And it becomes this thing where you’re fighting against the environment. “Oh, we don’t have enough outlets for you.” Or the P.A.’s broken.

    And so I think with Heavy Breathing it’s definitely a thing where we want to be able to enjoy playing rather than just be like, “Oh, we got here and then it’s a mess and oh ****, we’ve got to get our stuff on stage. Well that happened, I think that was good, right? Was it good?” And then you’re just like, “Well, people seemed to like it.” But there’s no time to actually think about the music or enjoy the music and playing it.

    Amanda, what’s with the mask?

    AK: The mask started because Apes toured constantly, and I loved all of our singers, but we always felt like there was a missing human element. We wanted the singers to have more of a banter, more of an ease. And there were also so many nights where you’re in Epsilon, Michigan on a Tuesday night, and it’s pouring, and the only person in the bar is the barmaid… So it’s like this game with yourself: What am I going to do to make myself laugh and feel comfortable before I get on stage? And that ski mask started because I put it on and I stood at a mirror, and I was making scary faces to crack myself up to chill out.

    There were situations in the early years where no one knew that I was a little short girl. I had dudes in Cincinnati respond to that [deep, effect-manipulated] voice saying, “I’ll take you out in the parking lot and kick your ass, ****er.” I love that part of the show, I really do.

    Talk to me about your robot vocalist, The Rhythm Machine. What’s the source material for the pre-recorded vocals you use?

    EJ: There’s all sorts of weirdos, just people blogging that do a cappella, so they sing a bunch of **** and they post it for people to use. They’ll just cover songs and we just take them. But then we take just words —

    AK: Or just one syllable.

    EJ: Usually just half a word, like “Uh”, “Ah”, and now because of Autotune you can figure out notes that you want to play and then you just keep looping them. You start hearing things, and you go, “Ohhhhh I think they’re saying this.” And then what’s nice is then we’re jamming, and then we can press a button and that voice keeps happening and then we can build around it, whereas a lot times you keep telling a singer, “Can you do that again? Can you do that again?” And they’d be like, “Uh, no.”

    AK: Or they can’t remember what they did.

    Erick, is it you who rocks the overalls on stage?

    EJ: Yes it is.

    Where’d you get those from?

    AK: One of our friends.

    EJ: Sometimes people give us stuff. They’re like, “You’d look funny in this.” Or they’ll give it to you. We just trade stuff.

    AK: Yeah, we trade things.

    Do you think overalls are sexy?

    EJ: I think they say something. They’re creepy.

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    One thing I was dismayed to learn of is Trump's connections to Epstein. I had started off not trusting or liking Hillary, and not super loving Trump. Despite his ability to make a lot of money (which for some seems to be a reason to rally behind him in the hopes that the economy will be somehow improved by his good business sense) and his willingness to speak his mind loud and clear, I could not ignore it all. I was glad that at least he was honest, but it is true that some of things he was saying were, to me, just too much.

    I guess it may be that many people with as much money and power as either Hillary or Trump are going to be implicated in what pizzagate is revealing. Are there any truly elite people who are NOT connected to the satan worshiping pedophilic drug culture we are seeing evidence of now in the pizzagate/spirit cooking/twittergate research?

    http://dailycaller.com/2016/10/09/th...to-talk-about/
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    Ala the styles of Heavy Breathing, there is also the work of Kim Noble, which has also been hosted by Comet Ping Pong - this woman produced some of the most disturbing "art" of all - showing scenes of sexual abuse of children. She is know to have dissociated from herself so many times during her traumatic life that she appears to have around 100 personality fragments. She was abused and neglected as a child (sadly her parents were always working so were unable to protect her - got to love that economic model), she was also exposed to a pedophile ring (where acid was thrown on her face).

    https://www.theguardian.com/lifeands...-personalities

    http://www.pseudoccultmedia.net/2009...sociation.html

    scroll down to the artwork of her alter "Ria" - it is incredibly disturbing.

    Makes you wonder about the artist who made all of those paintings of young girls in their underwear... like, what happened to her???

    Her name is Biljana Djurdjevic: http://www.biljanadjurdjevic.com/
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    http://thethermostatandthegreendrago...jurdjevic.html

    Interview w/ Djurdevic:

    "q) How do you dream up with your wacky ideas? What is your creation process?

    a)....am addicted to TV who works 24 hours per day, I hardly watch but I need to have it in the room"

    (TV = mind control channel - needing to have it on all the time as a "soothing background noise" is a red flag for mind control victim)

    "or seeing an other victim of paedophilia for this and other subjects unfortunately I didn’t need any imagination. Just a pure reality."

    (I wonder why she says "another victim" .. have yet to find her talk about herself as one, but would not be surprised to find that info)

    "How long does it take for you to finish a piece?

    a)Depends sometimes couple of days, sometimes two years, depends how big is canvas very often it is unexplainable how can I produce very fast some canvas, mostly I can’t remember how I done it which is cool it looks like I am always starting all over again, like absolute beginner."

    "q) Do you get emotionally attached to your work and do you miss your work when it is sold?

    a)No, the moment I finish work I don’t look at that canvas."

    "q) What is the strangest thing you have ever seen?

    a)Seeing ordinary people enjoying their life
    , probably second one will be to see world without oligarchy."

    Here is a collage of hers that was included in line with the text of the interview:

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    I feel they asked the wrong questions, but there you have it...

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    I just found this horribly disturbing video with a bizarre description on youtube itself, i know its macauly culkans band thats singing so i see the connection but it still disturbs me..

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    This is an excellent doc indicating that pedophilia is so widespread in the entertainment industry that it may be a matter of course. To many that's not new information, but if we're looking at the issue we really need to consider its scope.



    Take the time to watch it at youtube if this gets pulled.
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    It is easy to be thrown off the lead in regards to widespread pedophilia.

    Across the board, among everyday run of the mill people, pedophilia is not common; maybe one in fifty. What evidence points to is that among the people in power (both public and private) the instance of pedophilia is much, much more common. People in positions of power have the means and the will (if criminals) to steer law enforcement in ways that keep them looking in other directions, they have and maintain connections with each other that ensure one another's advancement and permanence in the corridors of power.



    -A good brief overview of larger implications around and tangential to this angle of entry into the pedo-power network. (check out 3m 45s mark) "Does the rich pedophile have to locate their own victims themselves?"

    I've heard there may be over 300 pedophiles in office in Washington DC. If the actual number is half that, account for how often Corporate interests dictate policy (all the time), and consider that pedophiles are likely concentrated in those levels of the corporate machine, the we'll be looking with "the right eyes" at how bad the pedophilia problem is. An issue complicating things is that if one person who takes a payoff in return for legislation becomes professional acquaintances with 2-4 pedos, he is just as likely to take measures to deter investigators from any substantial information; guilt by complicity.

    The modus operandi of our enemy employs pedophiles, I don't believe it's just for blackmail- not simply to control them by "do this or else everyone knows"- there is more to it. To many the info the below thread will seem too far afield, and I won't fight you on that, if you are interested check the link here:
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...44#post1060244
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    I do not know in USA for sure but it must be similar to Canada. In Canada, it is one pedophile in 300 inhabitants. Must be higher for males since they often are the perpretators, but it is lower than one in 50 as you wrote boutreality. Those 300 are from the regular population.

    And yes, it seems much more prevalent in higher societies somehow, like in the elite.

    However, following those stats above, there is much more than 300 pedophiles in Washington DC. Washington DC population, not counting suburbs, is 600,700 thousands. Divided by 300, we have 2,002 pedophiles in Washington DC. Not counting the elite, since they are never caught.

    Although not an everyday reality, pedophilia is still quite present in today's world.

    By the way, those stats in Canada are for real pedophiles, adults abusing 16 years old or below. They are not for a 20 years old who slept with his 17 years old girlfriends whose parents called the cops and had the 20 years old arrested, like in US. We do not do this usually to our kids. I think the age spread has to be more than 4 years and the age limit is below 16 to be considered as a child for sexual activities.
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    Ted Gunderson--from the Wikipedia page at:
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    Born November 7, 1928
    Colorado Springs, Colorado
    Died July 31, 2011 (aged 82)
    Memphis, Tennessee
    Cause of death Cancer[1]
    Occupation FBI Senior Special Agent In Charge; Private Investigator;Speaker; Author; Conspiracy Theorist.
    Employer Federal Bureau of Investigation(ret), private clients
    Title Senior Special Agent in Charge, Los Angeles, Special Agent in Charge, Dallas, TX, Memphis, TN, Washington, D.C. offices, F.B.I.
    Theodore L. Gunderson (November 7, 1928 – July 31, 2011) was an American Federal Bureau of Investigation Special Agent In Charge and head of the Los Angeles FBI. According to his son he worked on the Marilyn Monroe and the John F. Kennedy cases.[2][3] He was the author of the best selling book How to Locate Anyone Anywhere.[4]

    Early life and FBI
    Ted Gunderson was born in Colorado Springs. He graduated from the University of Nebraska in 1950. Gunderson joined the Federal Bureau of Investigation in December 1951 under J. Edgar Hoover. He served in the Mobile, Knoxville, New York City, and Albuquerque offices. He held posts as an Assistant Special Agent-in-Charge in New Haven and Philadelphia. In 1973 he became the head of the Memphis FBI and then the head of the Dallas FBI in 1975.[5] Ted Gunderson was appointed the head of the Los Angeles FBI in 1977.[6] In 1979 he was one of a handful interviewed for the job of FBI director, which ultimately went to William H. Webster.[7]

    Post-FBI
    After retiring from the FBI, Gunderson set up a private investigation firm, Ted L. Gunderson and Associates, in Santa Monica. In 1980, he became a defense investigator for Green Beret doctor Jeffrey R. MacDonald, who had been convicted of the 1970 murders of his pregnant wife and two daughters. Gunderson obtained affidavits from Helena Stoeckley confessing to her involvement in the murders.[8]

    He also investigated a child molestation trial in Manhattan Beach, California. In a 1995 conference in Dallas, Gunderson warned about the supposed proliferation of secret Satanic groups, and the danger posed by the New World Order, an alleged shadow government that would be controlling the US government.[9] He also claimed that a "slave auction" in which children were sold to men in turbans had been held in Las Vegas, that four thousand ritual human sacrifices are performed in New York City every year, and that the 1995 bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City was carried out by the US government.[9] Gunderson believed that in the US there is a secret widespread network of groups who kidnap children and infants, and subject them to Satanic ritual abuse and subsequent human sacrifice.[10][11]

    Gunderson had an association with music producer and conspiracy theorist Anthony J. Hilder and was interviewed by him on various occasions. The two men appeared at numerous conferences together.[12] They both said that the 1993 World Trade Center bombing was a result of FBI agent provocateurs.[13]

    Gunderson was a member of the Constitution Party.

    On July 31, 2011 Gunderson's son reported that his father had died from cancer.
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    http://www.thelocal.no/20161121/poli...edophilia-ring



    Norwegian police have filed charges against 51 individuals involved in a grotesque paedophilia ring thought to be one of the largest child sexual abuse cases in the nation’s history.
    Dubbed ‘Operation Dark Room’, the police action revealed a number of atrocities against children as young as infancy.


    Police seized 150 terabytes of data material in the form of photos, movies and chat transcripts between members of various paedophile networks.

    “The material shows the abuse of children of all ages, including infants,” Hilde Reikrås, the head of Operation Dark Room, said at a press conference on Sunday.

    Reikrås also gave examples of the scope of the horrific abuse.

    “The material shows, among other things, the penetration of toddlers, children being tied up, children having sex with animals and children having sex with other children,” she said.

    Twenty of the 51 people involved in the cases were arrested by the Western Police District. The other 31 people are from other police districts across Norway, and those cases are still under investigation. An additional individual is also under investigation abroad.

    Police stressed that their operation uncovered not just one paedophilia network, but several.

    “We have the clear perception that like-minded individuals met with each other in the so-called dark net, where they could talk with one another and cultivate their interest in children in peace,” Reikrås said.

    “There are several highly educated [individuals] with high IT skills. They’ve used encryption and anonymity to hide their tracks,” head police prosecutor Janne Ringset Heltne said at the Sunday press conference. She also said that all of the perpetrators involved are men.

    One of the involved men had a pregnant girlfriend and discussed plans with another man to sexually abuse the child once it was born, police said.



    I thought I'd share the reality of all this stuff. As somebody who is qualified as a child support worker, cases of sexual abuse regarding infants is disgustingly more common than people know.

    Don't ever let anybody convince you this stuff is 'crazy'. It is actually more 'crazy' to bury your head in the sand and pretend it isn't a real thing that happens in even the most civil populations.
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    http://www.thelocal.no/20161121/poli...edophilia-ring

    Norwegian police have filed charges against 51 individuals involved in a grotesque paedophilia ring thought to be one of the largest child sexual abuse cases in the nation’s history.
    Dubbed ‘Operation Dark Room’, the police action revealed a number of atrocities against children as young as infancy.


    Police seized 150 terabytes of data material in the form of photos, movies and chat transcripts between members of various paedophile networks.

    “The material shows the abuse of children of all ages, including infants,” Hilde Reikrås, the head of Operation Dark Room, said at a press conference on Sunday.

    Reikrås also gave examples of the scope of the horrific abuse.

    “The material shows, among other things, the penetration of toddlers, children being tied up, children having sex with animals and children having sex with other children,” she said.

    Twenty of the 51 people involved in the cases were arrested by the Western Police District. The other 31 people are from other police districts across Norway, and those cases are still under investigation. An additional individual is also under investigation abroad.

    Police stressed that their operation uncovered not just one paedophilia network, but several.

    “We have the clear perception that like-minded individuals met with each other in the so-called dark net, where they could talk with one another and cultivate their interest in children in peace,” Reikrås said.

    “There are several highly educated [individuals] with high IT skills. They’ve used encryption and anonymity to hide their tracks,” head police prosecutor Janne Ringset Heltne said at the Sunday press conference. She also said that all of the perpetrators involved are men.

    One of the involved men had a pregnant girlfriend and discussed plans with another man to sexually abuse the child once it was born, police said.



    I thought I'd share the reality of all this stuff. As somebody who is qualified as a child support worker, cases of sexual abuse regarding infants is disgustingly more common than people know.

    Don't ever let anybody convince you this stuff is 'crazy'. It is actually more 'crazy' to bury your head in the sand and pretend it isn't a real thing that happens in even the most civil populations.
    Agreed. AND, as disturbing as this is, what is even MORE disturbing to me is the possibility that some of these cases, where people are convicted and evidence found, are partly frame-ups. As in, how convenient would it be for the elites who practice this stuff to take their dirty work and pawn it off on some unsuspecting run of the mill marks? Or, maybe throw the lower echelons to the wolves and wipe all involvement for the uppers, say make one or two sacrificial lambs.

    Maybe I am totally off in the weeds here. But my friend's story the other day about her close friend's grandson being convicted for pornograpy (which he vehemently denied, saying somebody had his computer for a week) and then being hit and killed by a tractor trailer is just.... bizarre.

    The reason I wonder this is how many times do we hear of these elite pedos being nabbed and convicted? The cover ups seem to be much more common. Although, I did see in this article that "two current or former elected officials" were involved. Still, two doesn't sound like enough of them for me, especially if this is a "massive" pedo ring. I could be reading too far into this of course...
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    Quote Posted by The Freedom Train (here)
    [...]
    Agreed. AND, as disturbing as this is, what is even MORE disturbing to me is the possibility that some of these cases, where people are convicted and evidence found, are partly frame-ups. As in, how convenient would it be for the elites who practice this stuff to take their dirty work and pawn it off on some unsuspecting run of the mill marks? Or, maybe throw the lower echelons to the wolves and wipe all involvement for the uppers, say make one or two sacrificial lambs.
    [...]
    ... it's called "Damage Control" which gives the impression that something is being done about it and seemingly successful... but for high profile perps being found guilty... posthumously... oooppsss... too late...

    However, there's also that other side of the dice where some dissenters are thrown under the bus as a "message" to others:

    Quote Posted by Hervé (here)
    Pizzagate: Podesta pedo perps and Clinton's international child sex trafficking ring exposed
    Joachim Hagopian Sott.net Fri, 02 Dec 2016 00:00 UTC
    Quote Use monetary and sex bribery to obtain control of people already occupying positions in high places in the various levels of all governments and other fields of endeavor. Once an influential person had fallen for the lies, deceits, and temptations of the Illuminati, they were to be held in bondage by application of political and other forms of blackmail, threats of financial ruin, public exposure, and physical harm, and even death to themselves and their loved ones.

    - Adam Weishaupt, Illuminati Founder
    Check here to get an idea of how pervasive those networks are: POLICE STATE? How it came about in the US of A
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