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[Desire]

Whether it is real or fake, Kiwi, it is still a degradation of human life and do you what children exposed to that? Prepared or not?

[KiwiElf]

Posted by Desire (here)
Whether it is real or fake, Kiwi, it is still a degradation of human life and do you what children exposed to that? Prepared or not?

I wouldn't personally want my kids exposed to it no, (as in "seeing that type of movie" - not at that age anyway, but unlikely they would as it carried an "R" rating - they're all grown up now. Acting in it is a different matter as it's unlikely they'd be exposed to any more than the scenes they were in, and would receive appropriate "warnings" first. ) but many a Hollywood child has been exposed to much worse - that's the simple facts.

A "degradation of human life"? Bit exaggerated I think! That could apply to a lot of media, games, advertising and hundreds of movies.

The more worrying truth is the REAL victims.

[Desire]

who are the real victims you are talking about.I think abuse of children is still against the law. This is exposure to sadistic porn IMHP Nobody's children

[KiwiElf]

The real victims being the kids who are abducted, molested, harmed or even worse, killed - (Please refer to the Pizzagate thread (s) - not kids being paid for acting in a (horror) movie!

[Desire]

Pizzagate is real but the more society accepts the stuff as OK the more we decend as a nation no excuses.

[shaberon]

Snuff films originated from Berlin in the 1920s...pretty much as old as any type of film. I am not sure that being shielded from violent imagery makes anyone a better person. Does that somehow confront the act?

[Rocky_Shorz]

Quick question, are you more upset about the fake picture or that Ben said Trump is appointing Military for his cabinet and it's ok...

[KiwiElf]

Posted by Rocky_Shorz (here)
Quick question, are you more upset about the fake picture or that Ben said Trump is appointing Military for his cabinet and it's ok...

If you're asking me, I'm not upset by either (& I'm certainly not upset by fake pictures or "horror" movies - even the Eli Roth or Tarantino variety!)

[Rocky_Shorz]

You can look at a picture of Hillary without screaming and running out of the room, so I know you are fine... 😉

[KiwiElf]

Posted by Desire (here)
who are the real victims you are talking about.I think abuse of children is still against the law. This is exposure to sadistic porn IMHP Nobody's children

Pizzagate is real but the more society accepts the stuff as OK the more we decend as a nation no excuses.

Yes. Pizzagate is real. Horror movies aren't - they're entertainment. And as far as I know, kids acting in such movies is neither abuse OR against the law. If you can't differentiate between the two, I'm at a loss as to what to say.

Respectfully, if you think such movies are "sadistic porn" (you're entitled to your opinion), then write a letter of complaint to the Hollywood Censors or Directors. Please let us know their response.

[Chester]

post removed 2017-03-07

[KiwiElf]

Sam, you're brilliant! LOL - Cheers mate

[Desire]

Ads are made to influence people so are movies .Can you not see the connection Kiwi? P. S. I thought you were not going to respond again

[KiwiElf]

Posted by Desire (here)
Ads are made to influence people so are movies .Can you not see the connection Kiwi? P. S. I thought you were not going to respond again

I wasn't going to respond Desire, until your somewhat generalised comments took this thread onto the subject of CENSORSHIP. Respectfully, please feel free to create another thread dedicated to that subject.

Since your above comment is a little exaggerated, it begs a response, this is it:

Yes, both can influence but the difference between them is vast.

I have spent 30+ years in the advertising industry and I know their dirty little tricks intimately; the mainstream population is largely oblivious to the finer psychology at work other than to go out of their way to block any and all (or most) forms of advertising.

One of those "techniques" is spaced repetition: a form of mental programming, some would incorrectly say "brainwashing" but their meaning is the same (which can be used for positive or negative affect), where a message is repeated several times ... after a 6th exposure, it starts to sink in. This is very apparent in the long shopping channel type ads.

The more annoying aspect is that ads are constantly bombarding us on all our media, not just traditional TV, but internet (YouTube), smart phones, tablets, etc. They have gone beyond being irritating and can be quite difficult to avoid.

For the record, I am a great supporter of any AD BLOCKER . The movie industry, SKY etc, would be finished overnight if they interrupted a movie at the cinema or on DVD, or streamed, with annoying and intrusive ads every 10 minutes, or worse, overlayed on our entertainment "device" with no way to turn them off. We see the same thing happening now on YouTube for example. Like many people, I don't want to see ANY ads, tags or labels while watching a YouTube Video or visiting a web page and I will vigorously obtain any software which effectively blocks them.

An AD BLOCKER gives me that choice.

The advertisers on the other hand, proactively seek ways around us blocking their ads. They don't like it when we avoid, block or turn off their ads.

A relevant example (double standards here), would be the sometimes "disgusting" or "shock" images (ie, rotting teeth, cancerous organs etc) placed on cigarette packets in a misguided attempt to deter smokers. Well you know what? It hasn't worked! (Nor will "plain packaging").
Ironically, no-one seems to mind if kids see these images!

Like the "fake Image" posted earlier, it briefly took away a viewers' choice to see it (or not). The point of the image was to draw readers attention to the REAL horrific atrocities. Depending on the individual, cognitive dissonance turns ON and they turn OFF.

To spell it out, advertising primarily and quite intrusively influences you to; buy or use a product, use or purchase a service or inform & educate (questionable considering the bias), as in Public Service ads, ie anti-smoking, don't speed, fasten safety belts etc. Some good. Some not. Most ads (unlike most movies), are intended for you to take one of the above actions.

There is no realistic or fair comparison (or connection) to the "influences" in a movie which are at most, relatively "soft sell":

The primary purpose of a movie, which the viewer chooses to see - is to entertain (in a variety of ways, including horror and gore), perhaps educate, and make the studio tons of money. At best, it might "influence" the audience to think.

There is ample evidence to fill several books on the so called "affects" or "influences" advertising or movies has on a population at large. ( Google it).

Viewing a horror movie, which may not be your preference, and that's fine... (or distasteful images, which is subjective in any case) is not going to turn anyone who does enjoy them or are exposed to them, (by their choice), into a rampant psychopathic killer, cannibal or anything else, (except in a VERY tiny percentage of the population who are already psychologically predisposed or inclined to do so in the first place. In these minute examples it may act as a trigger but that's all, regardless of the MSM fools citing a movie, game etc - "made me do it," as a lame excuse to be the primary influence or cause in committing a crime).

Advertising nor movies force you to do anything. You still have a choice.

I can barely count on one hand the number of such crimes blamed on various media in a year.

Likewise, how many times has MacDonalds advertising (and consuming them) been blamed for causing obesity? No-one is forcing anyone to eat the darn things! It's a choice.

At the end of the day, if movies, advertising, games, or images were that immensely powerful at influencing people to that degree (they're not), then they would (and should) all be banned. Immediately. You may as well add the internet to that. (And like prohibition, they would go underground in any case).

Looking at something isn't the same as DOING IT.

Can you not see the difference between fact ie, real people being abducted, tortured, cannibalised, raped, molested or murdered, and fiction, ie,actors in a movie (or ad) and faked imagery?

Please, put your opinions to one side & DO some research on the subject.

[KiwiElf]

Khazarian mafia still planning big false flag events but their defeat is certain
Posted by benjamin
http://benjaminfulford.net/

December 12, 2016

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The following partial Benjamin Fulford Report is posted for your enjoyment as, in the words of Sam, *CONSPIRO-TAINMENT* .
For legal reasons, please do NOT post the Full Written or Video Report on this thread until the following Friday.
(A link to the full report/video may be posted sooner). Readers are advised to use their discernment, "read between the lines" and conduct independent research to verify (or UNverify) the information presented, which may be further clarified (or not) on the Fulford Cafe Blog by clicking on the current headline at:

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Enjoy
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The Khazarian mafia is planning spectacular false flag terror operations between now and December 19th in a last minute attempt to prevent Donald Trump from being formally appointed as President of the United States, CIA sources say. However, the military forces of Russia, China and the United States are all working together now to remove the final vestiges of Khazarian control so these efforts will no more than the final thrashes of a dying beast.

There is also a very intense cyber-warfare campaign under way aimed to removing truth websites so that the Khazarian corporate media’s false world narrative can be reasserted, the sources say. This is what is behind the ongoing attempt to try to label the current truth revolution and the election of Donald Trump as being done by “Russia.”

The recent widely publicized Washington Post article that featured a list of so-called “fake news” sites cited information compiled by US State Department and Obama administration fronts like Voice of America, the Atlantic Council and the National Endowment for Democracy.

http://www.voltairenet.org/article194344.html

The fact is the real fake news outlets are propaganda organs like the New York Times, the Washington Post, CNN, BBC etc. These are the outlets that still routinely report lies about 911, Iran, Saddam Hussein, ISIS, Russia etc. All of these lying corporate propaganda outlets will soon experience a change in management and will be forced to either report the truth or be shut down.

Both Asian secret society and Western agency sources report that a major purge is ongoing and that large numbers of people are “disappearing” in Asia and in the West. The outward sign of this has been the domino fall of Khazarian mafia controlled governments.
However, the Asian secret society sources say that information provided by the NSA claiming that Chinese President Xi Jinping reported to Evelyn de Rothschild was false. They say the Asians have been having a series of meeting where, among other things, it was decided that since Xi supports world peace, he will remain in power. Other world leaders, however, will continue to resign, the sources agree.

The most recent domino to fall was South Korean President Park Geun Hye who was impeached last week. South Koreans were infuriated to hear revelations from Wikileaks and other sources that Park took part in “Satanic rituals” and allowed Demonic spirits “complete control over her body and soul.”

http://victuruslibertas.com/2016/12/...-satanic-cult/

There has been a strenuous campaign by the Khazarian mafia to deny any connection to Satanism but more and more insiders are saying it is very real. The images of ritualistic cannibalism at an elite party run by Marina Ambramovic are a reflection of very real cannibalistic orgies that do take place, bloodline family sources say.

https://sli.mg/a/mdv0hG

A list of celebrities who attended this event can be seen here:
(Viewer discretion advised)

http://www.ascensionwithearth.com/20...ies-take.html?
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“The truth is the ‘Elite’ wouldn’t be doing public ‘mocking’ cannibalistic Satanic rituals or ‘Galas’ if they were actually not being actively engaged in such sick and twisted disgusting practices,” a CIA source points out.

A lot of information about these elite horrors will be coming out in the war crimes trials that are expected to start in January, 2017, several sources agree.

A CIA source says that “Obama as the CEO of the Corporate United States, quietly joined...

Link to Full Report will follow...

[KiwiElf]

Related Info:

Last week, Pathwalker started a well researched thread by David Wilcock here:

ENDGAME - Disclosure and the Final Defeat of the Cabal

https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...t-of-the-Cabal

Part 2 is now available at David's Site:

ENDGAME II: The Antarctic Atlantis and Ancient ET Ruins

http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/d...9-endgame-pt-2

[Johnny]

Full written report: http://operationdisclosure.blogspot....defeat-is.html

Johnny

[JimM]

David Wilcock has two extensive articles on the Cabal, Disclosure and Antartica.

http://divinecosmos.com/

[norman]

Posted by KiwiElf (here)

Part 2 is now available at David's Site:

ENDGAME II: The Antarctic Atlantis and Ancient ET Ruins

http://divinecosmos.com/start-here/d...9-endgame-pt-2

That was a fascinating read and I now know why a source told me 2 or 3 years ago that large numbers of people were going to Antarctica for "long shifts".

I wish I hadn't blown my cool with that source, by sharing the info insecurely. I'm sure there was a lot more I could have been told.

[Cardillac]

I will make this comment short; venerable British archeologist Graham Hancock has proposed Antarctica is lost Atlantis (Antarctica was earlier ca. 2500 miles more northernly than it is now)-

I bet there are more important people shortly visiting Antarctica than we've been told; so what's really going on down there?-

be well all-

Larry