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    Trump appears to be Israel's best friend. He is defending their illegal occupation of Palestinian territory. Weird.
    Yes - weird. Unusual for me, I've yet to invent a decent theory as to why this is .
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    This helped connect some of those dots for me:
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1123782
    Or was that irony?
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    Yes - weird. Unusual for me, I've yet to invent a decent theory as to why this is .
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    I hear ya, Paul.............i dont get it yet, but i will;;;;;;maybe too late,,,as usual..............
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    Trump appears to be Israel's best friend. He is defending their illegal occupation of Palestinian territory. Weird.
    Yes - weird. Unusual for me, I've yet to invent a decent theory as to why this is .
    Hi Paul,

    I have to stretch to come up with a theory as well. I start with asking what does Russia have in common with Israel. All I can come up with is the Russian mafia. Jewish inmates in the Gulag were allowed to immigrate to the U.S. and Israel. Obviously some were not Jewish and claimed to be to get out of the country and jail.

    I read a few articles over 20 years ago about the problem. One day the subject became verboten. Media wise, you could here a pin drop. Now, here is the thing...many of them were involved in various oil schemes-- maybe trading paper barrels, who knows...can't remember. They were very slick conmen.

    The one thing that really sticks out in my mind, like crazy, is how some of them were the best mathematical minds in Russia. Now take that forward a little and it makes sense that they would be heavily involved in computer programming etc..

    I think it is possible there is a tie in here. They would control by blackmail--stuff they got through hacking into people's emails.

    Do I think Putin is involved? Maybe. But you have to figure, the U.S bigwigs want answers from the CIA and Obama about how they 'know' Russia hacked the election, or swayed it. Is Obama going to give them the evidence, which might contain a file of very damaging pics of himself.

    But as with 911, so many people were focussed on the twin towers, they weren't looking at what just didn't fit. Building 7. I feel that trump's fealty towards Israel is the building 7 of events, post election.

    What doesn't fit...at all...you have Russia, Israel, organized crime, brilliant mathematicians, conmen and curiously, there is oil in this story, too.

    This is all major conjecture. I have no clue, but it is a story worth pursuing.
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    A point worth considering is that Soros fired a shot across the Rothschild bow a couple of years ago.

    Stuff like that makes allies in the strangest ways. Putin takes his orders from the old Russian royalty, who are ultimately allies with the descended Prussians. That includes the Roths and the Sax Gotha bunch ( and Assange, in my opinion ).

    That's yer 2016 Presidential election mystery solved.

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    Really, has no one else even considered that the VATICAN might have something to do with it?
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    Sheikh Imran Hosein ABOUT
    Donald Trump elected US president

    (Published on Nov 18, 2016)
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    BREAKINGISRAELNEWS

    Is Trump the Prophesied Leader
    Who Will Unite Christians
    Against Radical Islam?

    By Adam Eliyahu Berkowitz
    November 16, 2016 , 12:30 pm

    Donald Trump may be the leader prophesied by Jewish literature to gather Christians against the sons of Ishmael in the times before Messiah, suggested a prominent rabbi recently. He noted that other aspects of the same prophecy regarding the Arab world have already been fulfilled.

    “The Malbim wrote that before the coming of the Messiah, the world will separate into two groups: the Bnei Yishmael (Muslims), and the Bnei Edom (Christians),” Rabbi Zamir Cohen, a noted scholar and the head of the Beitar Illit Yeshiva, said in a lecture earlier in the week.
    “According to the prophecy, the Bnei Yishmael will join together, and the Christians will remain calm, even apathetic, despite the obvious threat.”
    Rabbi Cohen was referring to Rabbi Meir Leibush ben Yehiel Michel Wisser, better known as the Malbim, a renowned 19th-century Bible commentator. His prophecy’s description of an apathetic Western world facing a monstrous threat from Muslims dovetails closely with modern events. In recent years, radical Islam has been permitted to flourish in the Middle East and is now spreading throughout the world.

    “The prophecy goes on to say that there will come a leader who will gather together the Christians and say, ‘Enough! We are sick of Islam!’,” the rabbi said. “This is unprecedented, something we have yet to see in the world, a leader who stands up and says that he has had enough of the trespasses of Islam, and that we are not afraid, and it is time to punish the Muslims for what they are doing.
    “It is impossible to say that Trump is the leader the prophecies spoke about,” warned Rabbi Cohen, “But by his style of speech, that he doesn’t really care what he says or how people will react, it may be that he is.”

    He pointed to Proverbs as a clue to whether or not the “unprecedented development” is good for Israel.
    The king’s heart is in the hand of Hashem as the watercourses: He turneth it whithersoever He will. Proverbs 21:1
    This verse makes clear that the actions of leaders are guided by God alone, Rabbi Cohen explained.

    “Trump had free choice until he was elected. Now [that he is a leader] he no longer has free choice, especially in regards to governing the nation, or how to relate to Israel,” said Rabbi Cohen. “All of the promises Trump made until now, I believe that he really meant them. But whether or not he will actually do it is not in his power.

    “As the leader of America, what he decides in the end is in God’s hands, and that is decided according to our actions,” declared Rabbi Cohen, quoting a verse from Psalms.
    Ascribe ye strength unto God; His majesty is over Yisrael, and His strength is in the skies. Psalms 68:35
    Rabbi Cohen described how, at the same time, events in the Muslim and Arab world are also conforming to the Malbim’s prophecy.

    “Today, we see that the world of Islam is turning more and more extremist,” he said. “They are returning the days of Mohammed, chopping off heads, things which look insane. It is unbelievable that we should return to these things in our generation. They established a state that aspires to conquer the entire Muslim world, called the Islamic State.

    “But God, in his mercy, has made it so they are fighting among themselves for now. This is a clear realization of the prophecy in Isaiah,” asserted Rabbi Cohen.
    And I will spur Mitzrayim against Mitzrayim; and they shall fight every one against his brother, and everyone against his neighbour; city against city, and kingdom against kingdom. Isaiah 19:2
    The conditions the rabbi described are indeed unfolding before our eyes. Despite some horrifying attacks against the West, the fiercest efforts by Islamic extremists are restricted to inter-Islamic conflicts. Islamic terror in Europe and America pales in comparison to the more than 300,000 Syrians killed in that country’s civil war. Today, in a bitter, ongoing battle, Iraqi forces are struggling to take back Mosul from the Islamic State.

    Rabbi Yosef Berger, the rabbi of King David’s Tomb on Mount Zion Jerusalem, told Breaking Israel News that illogical political developments are necessary components of the Messiah.

    “When political developments reflect what is written in the Torah, that is a clear indication that we are nearing geulah (redemption),” noted Rabbi Berger. “These developments simply do not follow logic. The Arabs say they want to destroy Israel, but what they are actually doing is harming each other.

    “It is because God is taking over, directing events.”

    Rabbi Cohen concluded his lecture with a word of advice on how one can impact the course of events and even influence the decisions of kings.

    “God directs the actions of the leaders according to our actions. If we do mitzvoth (commandments) and conform to God’s will, he will direct the leaders to act in our best interests.”

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    Really, has no one else even considered that the VATICAN might have something to do with it?
    I refer you again here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1123782
    The Vatican is one faction of the elite, so they could definitely be involved!

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    Oh Turiya,

    The same old end times, messianic crap. That stuff is so crazy and has been jerking believers around forever. The good lord wouldn't choose an orange guy with a twitter account and mob connections, to lead 'his' people -- unless he is a badass with a crazy sense of humor.

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    So, It seems... like so many that come here... having lost their way... [hint: you're on the wrong thread, my dear...]
    May you find your way back home in this most extraordinary happy new year...


    The year 2016 was a time of numerous major events providing no clue to what the world will be like in the 21st century. It could be anything – from plunging into devastating wars and economic downturns to unheard of prosperity and stability leaving the present turmoil in the past. There is no clear trend of global development and it’s impossible to say where the world is heading to. At least, not at the threshold of 2017.

    The importance of information grew exponentially. 2016 will be remembered as a year of information wars. This factor is becoming increasingly instrumental in international affairs. No information sources are fully trusted anymore but the influence of media outlets and social networks is immense as the US electoral campaign showed.

    Internet has become a battlefield where information wars are waged to influence large masses of people and a considerable number of world leaders. A media outlet has become the most powerful weapon used by a «warring side».

    Geopolitical instability was increasing. There were geopolitical uncertainties, such as Brexit, the slowdown of China’s economic development to affect the global economic situation, and slow-moving trends in demographics and productivity growth.

    2016 will be remembered as the year of the fourth industrial revolution - a phenomenon expected to change the world as we know it today. It started with consequences unknown. Despite rapid changes in technology, greater productivity, and the progress in labor force skills, the global economy was going through another year of stagnation. Internet, nanotechnology, bioscience, electronics, photonics, advanced materials and renewable energies have so far failed to produce a qualitative leap in the lives of many ordinary people, with social problems remaining as acute as ever.

    And so far nothing gives ground to say 2017 will be the year of rapid economic growth. The ongoing political and economic uncertainties around the world are expected to negatively affect the fourth industrial revolution. At least, that’s what it was like in the year that’s gone.

    In 2016, the China-offered Free Trade Area of Asia-Pacific was launched while the US-initiated Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) has a slim chance to ever come to fruition. The China’s sponsored Asian Development Bank and European Bank for Reconstruction and Development started to sponsor the new Silk Road plan. If successful, these two projects can change the economic map of the contemporary world to benefit many other states and damage the US in terms of global standing.

    The Silk Road Economic Belt will connect China with Central Asia, Russia and the Baltic countries in Europe; with the Persian Gulf and the Mediterranean Sea through Central Asia and West Asia; and with Southeast Asia, South Asia and the Indian Ocean. The Maritime Silk Road, meanwhile, will link China’s coast to Europe through the South China Sea and the Indian Ocean in one route, and from China’s coast through the South China Sea to the South Pacific in the other. 2016 was the year when the global economic project got into full swing to give «prosperity for all» a chance.

    It was the year when the so-called liberal world order was on shaky ground and retreating. In 2016, Europe continued to turn inward grappling with internal political challenges, violent extremism, and the migrant crisis. A host of facts and events in 2016 confirmed this trend, including the debates on Scottish independence, Brexit, and the Dutch referendum on Ukraine’s European Union membership, the internal divisions inside the EU, and Donald Trump elected in the US, to name a few.

    The voices calling for revision of the European integration project were growing louder. In 2016, some called for convening a European constituent or foundational assembly to evaluate the situation and set new goals. Everybody agrees that things cannot continue as before. With anti-Russia sanctions doomed anyway, a more stable EU may benefit Moscow. After all, Russia is the third trading partner of the EU and the EU is the first trading partner of Russia.

    2016 was the year of uncertainty to raise doubts about integration being a good thing. The European integration projects gives rise to a plethora of questions. Nobody knows what’s in store. Only when the effects of Brexit take shape and the results of elections in a number of leading countries, including Germany and Italy, are known, will it become possible to make predictions about the future of the Old Continent.

    There were no breakthroughs in the Middle East but no new conflict erupted while the old ones lingered. The Islamic State group lost over a quarter of the territory in Iraq and Syria. It was retreating everywhere. There was a positive turn of events in Syria with Aleppo retaken long before the end of the year and Raqqa, the informal capital of the extremist group, surrounded by US-led forces. In 2016, the main pertinent actors dropped their «Assad must go» demand, with Russia, Turkey and Iran launching a crisis management effort in a new format with other parties invited to join.

    The Islamic State was also defeated in Sirte, Libya. In 2016 it became evident that an international crisis management operation in that country is likely to take place with many actors involved. Any viable solution to the Middle East situation requires an international effort. Russia and the West may be facing a wide gap to divide them but joining together to tackle the region’s problems appears to be a logical step.

    2016 was the year when the crisis of arms control and non-proliferation continued with no positive results and no prospects for the future. Hopes for a dialogue in this field have been largely frustrated.

    All told, it was a year of dashed hopes and failed attempts to succeed. But it was not all doom and gloom. Global economy was slowly moving up, not down. There was no crisis and no downturn.

    Some things were not in spotlight but they matter. Two weeks before Brexit, the African Union announced a new single African passport that permits holders to enter any of the 54 AU member states without a visa – an interesting turn in African history while the European integration was hitting headlines. World hunger reached its lowest point in 25 years. According to new data, acid pollution in the atmosphere is now almost back to the level that it was before it started with industrialization in the 1930s. Colon cancer, dementia, and heart disease, started declining in advanced countries.

    Global terrorists were gradually losing ground. The Islamic State quietly started preparing its followers for the eventual collapse of the caliphate it proclaimed with great fanfare two years ago. Following the end of conflict in Colombia in 2016, all of the war in the world is now limited to an arc that contains less than a sixth of the world’s population.

    The relations between Russia and the West went on deteriorating, but contacts were maintained. At least three sessions of Russia-NATO Council were held. None of the parties said the relationship was suspended. And they confirmed their readiness for further talks.

    With all its achievements and failures, it was a year of transition, a harbinger of new reality which had not been neither foreseen, nor predicted. And there was a silver lining to make the world look forward to 2017 with hope and determination to overcome setbacks and snags on the way.

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    It appears to me that prophecies in the main are a form of implanted mind control which have been used for centuries to bring about the plans the elite's controllers made thousands of years ago for humanity.
    They laid it all out, let the prophets believe that the visions were original to themselves, then laughed up their sleeves at our gullibility.
    I'm not buying it anymore, and certainly not prophecies about Trump being a hero.
    IMHO, he's just another tool, playing out his role no differently than his predecessors.
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    Happy New Year 2017 Clif High Predictions...

    Clif High-2017 Predictions on Everything
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    Internet data mining expert Clif High uses calls what he does “Predictive Linguistics,” to mine the Internet and collects billions of data points to produce forecasts of the future. High has predictions on Trump, gold, silver, housing, stocks, bonds, the dollar, interest rates and even new discoveries that will change the world that are coming out of Antarctica.


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    Cool Turiya,

    Thanks for the link! And happy new year to you!

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    Turiya -- We differ in our opinions, but I appreciate your hopeful outlook and feel that even though he is the wrong man for the job, Trump might be pointing us all in the right direction.

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    Hi AutumnW,

    I am curious.

    If we can agree that realistically there was either going to be a Democrat nominee or a Republican nominee who would eventually become the 45th President-elect of the United States on November 8, 2016, who do you think would have been "the right" one for the job who ran for the nomination of their party?
    All the above is all and only my opinion - all subject to change and not meant to be true for anyone else regardless of how I phrase it.

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    I kind of liked Sanders, but his foreign policy would have mirrored Clinton's, so I don't know how great he would have been. There wasn't one candidate I would have been happy to see win. Not one.

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    I'll say there's a difference, Autumn... more than that, there's in fact a 'Yuuge' Difference...
    Bernie Sanders: "Global Warming is directly responsible for creating ISIS"... lol... <<go on - click on the link - and have a look see & hear it for yourself^^


    The truth about Bernie further revealed itself when he threw his towel in & decided to support Hillary "The Queen of Corruption" Clinton...
    That's almost as laugh-able as Obama's Legacy...



    Obama's Legacy: The World Will Not Be Fooled!
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    Bill Holter sets the record straight on Obama's so-called 'Legacy' regarding the U.S. economy & Jobs statistics...

    Our Standard Of Living Is Coming To An End,
    Expect A 30-50% Drop: Bill Holter

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    Eva Bartlett finishes Obama's Legacy by setting the record straight on Assad & what's going on in Syria... not to mention what General Flynn has said about Obama administration funding the so-called "Syrian Rebels"... a.k.a. ISIS...

    FAKE MSM lies about Syria exposed
    by Canadian journalist Eva Bartlett

    (Published on Dec 13, 2016)
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    Zero Hedge also would tend to differ with Obama's self-promotion of his supposed Legacy...


    As we close out 2016 and draw nearer to the end of Obama's 8 years in the White House, our commander-in-chief decided to celebrate by once again telling us all just how awesome he thinks he is via a lovely little tweet storm.

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    In short, it appears like the transition from Enlil's rule to Enki's, a slightly less despotic boss, but no real basic difference--a despot is a despot.
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    I don't see how you've arrived at that conclusion, Paul.
    Global chaos and misery seem to have always been the choice of the elites (and their masters) for the rest of us, so why would that change now?
    Would you please explain? Thanks.
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    But international competition will be governed by the hidden hand of elites, so that the dreadful genocides, financial fraud, ecological holocaust, monetary and economic collapse, and destruction of cultures and people cannot and will not be allowed to happen again.
    Ah - I am not saying that the elite will end those and other evils.

    I am saying that the elite will condemn some of those evils, and throw under the bus some of the perpetrators of some of those evils. The elite will do this to build popular support, or at least mass acceptance, for the next round of changes, that increase the scope of the elite's global control over humanity.

    I should have put the phrase "so that the dreadful genocides, financial fraud, ecological holocaust, monetary and economic collapse, and destruction of cultures and people cannot and will not be allowed to happen again" in quotes or something -- that will be the stated motive of the elite, not their real, hidden motive.
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