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    I don't think we really know who is really at the very top.
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    Nobody... cuz Trump is driving the train at the moment... at least, for here in America...

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    I will refer again to Paul's post here:
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1129091
    ..and add that some whistleblowers have stated that the elite take orders from those who are probably not even on this planet, or in this dimension.
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    And will also refer to Curious77's post here:
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...98#post1129498
    Where, although Tompkins said that Trump is not a Reptilian, did NOT say that he is free of their influence.
    And of course, Tompkins is not the only one who has talked at length about the role Reptilians have long taken in human affairs.
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    Bit lost for words about the following video.

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    Without even checking all the info out in that video, I will just say it makes a lot more sense to me than all the pro Trump rhetoric we've been hearing.
    I look forward to hearing what some other Avalonians have to say about it who are more politically inclined than I.
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    The answer to what?

    You need a question before an answer.

    Before he is president all the know-it-all's come out of the woodwork to
    criticize him.
    ANSWER TO WHAT?

    I know one thing, before we start, he is an answer to what we
    narrowly missed.
    Regardless to what he does or does not do, anything will be better than
    the 'alternative'.
    Yes, we could argue forever as to what could have happened but I
    for one could see 'them' --evil ones for what they are..............

    There may not be an answer--ever,
    So, we select what we can and adjust.............
    Question Everything, always speak truth... Make the best of today, for there may not be a tomorrow!!! But, that's OK because tomorrow never comes, so we have nothing to worry about!!!

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    Quote Posted by Akasha (here)
    Bit lost for words about the following video.
    That might actually be a useful video, if one can "translate" it accurately.

    On the surface, the video lumps all the Rothschild, Zionist, Israelie, Neo-con, Ashkenazi Jews, Main Stream Media, Mossad, et al into one basket of evil, and all of us ordinary people into another basket of the desperate, demoralized and oppressed. The video presents this view [A] in opposition to the main alternative view [B], that Trump is opposed to the "bad" guys in Washington and the Main Stream Media, and will drain those swamps, as best he can. That alternative view [B] is in turn in opposition to the mainstream conventional view [C], that Trump is a dangerous buffoon, attacking American leadership.

    Back in 1913 the big New York banks got the Federal Reserve act passed. This act transferred control of money creation from the US Treasury to the Federal Reserve (a private corporation owned by those big banks). One key way that the big banks got this act accepted by the public was to publicly and avidly oppose the very act that they wrote and deeply wanted. Most people, naturally enough, figured that if the banks were against the act, it must be a "good" act, unlike the previous privately owned US National banks, which were owned by the big New York banks, and whose charters had been revoked.

    Most people were wrong.

    The big banks wrote the Federal Reserve act, in a secret meeting on Jekyll Island in 1910, and disguised their support of the act, by pretending to oppose it. Their deceit worked, and since then, the US Dollar has been lent into existence by those big banks and their agency, the Federal Reserve. December 23, 1913 is perhaps the foremost date in American history that should "live in infamy," not December 7, 1941. The Federal Reserve Act was enacted on December 23, 1913. The Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941, the date that US President Roosevelt then said should "live in infamy."

    This same grand deception is being played out on us again!

    This time it is the elite controlled main stream media that is playing the role of the apparent opposition. The main stream press mentioned Trump more than any other candidate during the year long Presidential campaign, ostensibly to attack and ridicule him. But as most any politician knows, any press is (usually) good press, even if it seems to be on the attack. Half (perhaps far more) of America now figures that the main stream press is a pit of deceitful snakes, and cheer Trump on, when he blatantly, in common language, attacks the bias of the main stream press.

    The video you posted above is correct, I believe, in noting that the main stream media, and many of Trump's most valuable advisors, staff and supporters, both have deep ties to a common elite, which the video calls the Ashkenazi Jews.

    My take is that the elite are moving us (humanity) through a transition, from the American century, to a multi-polar structure of multiple major nations and multiple major national currencies, all guided by the partially hidden hands of the global elite. The American Bush, Clinton, Obama, Neo-con, and Main Stream Media elements have been cast as the "bad" guys, to be thrown under the bus, symbolic of the demise of the century of American Exceptionalism.

    I have no idea, and no way to find out, what percentage of the world's Ashkenazi Jews are trusted agents of these elite. It does however seem to me that the elite have infiltrated the Ashkenazi Jews for centuries (at least), to a greater extent than they have most other genetically identifiably (in this case, mitochondrial genetics, inherited from the maternal side) sub-groups of the human species. This means that while learning that someone is from Ashkenazi Jewish maternal ancestry tells me no more about them as individual persons than learning that they are Scottish or Chinese, on the other hand, learning that a substantial proportion of a leader's key advisors, staff and supporters are Ashkenazi Jews does lead me to suspect that that leader is somehow working with, for, or under the control or at least close surveillance of the most powerful elite on this planet.

    So I think that that video, like most propaganda (and that video certainly has the "feel" of propaganda, intended to incite division and distrust), mixes some truth with some deception. I agree with that video that Trump is somehow working with, for, or under the control or at least close surveillance of the most powerful elite on this planet, and that the very strong presence of Ashkenazi Jews in his key advisors, staff and supporters is good evidence of this association.

    I do not agree with the video in lumping the Neo-cons in with these same people. Rather I prefer to use the label "Neo-con" for those who spear headed the last few decades of the century of American Exceptionalism, including the Bush and Clinton crime syndicates, and their teleprompter reading agent, Obama. These that I call Neo-cons are the ones being thrown under the bus now.

    I do not agree with the video's incitement to hatred of all Ashkenazi Jews. That plays right into the incitement of division, discord and distrust that the elite use, time and time again, to emotionally energize, while intellectually and spiritually camouflaging, their mass manipulations of humanity.

    The way that the big cats drive change is to send two groups of smaller cats to fight to bloody death, like lions and Christians in a Roman colosseum. For big changes, the elite then use multiple variations and reflections of this tactic, until almost every person (who's awake enough to change TV channels on their remote control) has taken strong sides for or against one or another of these groups of combatants, and until almost every person is too confused by, but enmeshed within, this fabric of conflict, too distracted, confused and emotionally triggered, to see the hidden hands behind all this smoke and mirrors, conflict and chaos.

    The Long March of the global elite continues.
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    Default Re: Trump is NOT the answer

    who the heck knows whats going on anymore... I just hope that there are some white hats, that are about to change the "system" so we can live without worrying about money, and concentrate on whats important in life..

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    I would also refer to Kerry's posts starting here:
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1129274
    and including her video.
    She knows her way around these issues.

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    And also this:
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    The Long March of the global elite continues.
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    Quote Posted by Akasha (here)
    Bit lost for words about the following video.
    One key way that the big banks got this act accepted by the public was to publicly and avidly oppose the very act that they wrote and deeply wanted. Most people, naturally enough, figured that if the banks were against the act, it must be a "good" act, unlike the previous privately owned US National banks, which were owned by the big New York banks, and whose charters had been revoked.

    Most people were wrong.

    The big banks wrote the Federal Reserve act, in a secret meeting on Jekyll Island in 1910, and disguised their support of the act, by pretending to oppose it. Their deceit worked, and since then, the US Dollar has been lent into existence by those big banks and their agency, the Federal Reserve. December 23, 1913 is perhaps the foremost date in American history that should "live in infamy," not December 7, 1941. The Federal Reserve Act was enacted on December 23, 1913. The Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor on December 7, 1941, the date that US President Roosevelt then said should "live in infamy."

    This same grand deception is being played out on us again!
    I was thinking the same thing. The establishment knows we don't trust them. it's easy enough for them to make someone look edgy and rebellious. The Grateful Dead's Bob Weir was a member of Bohemian Grove, to pick one example of many.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOs7eziJAv8

    TPTB know that if they say "don't pick this guy" the electorate will go against their wishes and pick him. Espcially as Hilary was pushed up on stage coughing and spluttering, and grandstanding against Russia. Who would vote for a sick warmonger? In retrospect it was reverse psychology being played out on a mass scale.

    If Trump does OK, good luck to him, but people are wasting a lot of psychic energy waiting on him to sort things out. The BRICS bank was a hero 3-4 years ago. They delivered nothing.

    The best course of action -for me- is to detach from the political circus... and make progress in other fields.

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    Yes, no, who knows let's see the first month of actions and then form a decent and intelligent opinion, without being biassed by main stream lies!

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    I do not agree with the video's incitement to hatred of all Ashkenazi Jews.
    Speaking of Ashkenazi Jews, here are some of the final words in Miles Mathis' latest political, geneological work, Hitler's Genealogy:
    Quote Nazism is nothing but theater, and these people like Haider are simply crypto-Jews, directly related to the same families that have been pulling this con for a century. As in the US, they create two fake parties that appear to be opposed but that are really allied fascists. They then divert your attention from any real events with a constant stream of fiction.

    In fact, I have already proved my point in this paper and don't feel obligated to say any more about Himmler. If you can read everything above and not gag on all of 20 th c. history, you need to go dunk your head in some ice water.

    But on the way out I will tell how to read one last mystery. It has never been explained where the word Nazi came from. Wikipedia tells you to this day it comes from the German pronunciation of the word national. Right. And you believe that? Given what we learned above, maybe now you can see the truth: Nazi is simply a shortening of the word Ashkenazi.
    Miles apparently missed school the day they taught political correctness ... and he's damn proud that he did.

    Eustace Mullins, on page 129 of his 1987 book “The Curse Of Canaan: A Demonology Of History“, as quoted at Before It's News, made a similar comment:
    Quote [Adolf Hitler's] political party, the National Socialists, received the worldwide appellation of “Nazi” because it was the political party of the Ashkenazim, the German Jews (ashkenazim means Germany in Hebrew).
    According to Wikipedia, "Eustace Clarence Mullins Jr. (March 9, 1923 – February 2, 2010) was an antisemitic American writer, Holocaust denier, and disciple of the poet Ezra Pound." Neither Miles Mathis nor myself have earned a Wikipedia page, though I'd guess that Miles, like myself, would prefer, if we ever did earn such a page, that it be damning, as is Mullins' page now.

    ===

    As I wrote above, I remain of the view that whoever are the global elite, whose hidden hand seems behind so many of the darker chapters in human history (whether publicly written or not), have infiltrated the Ashkenazi Jewish descendents more so than humanity in general. Or perhaps I should say that their way of thinking, their view of humanity and of their proper role in our civilization, has found a greater "home" in some of those descendents, and that the counter balancing views of the rest of us, more susceptible to mass propaganda, manipulation and genocidal conflict, has found a greater "home" in many other genetic (both cellular nuclear DNA and mitochondria DNA) pools of humanity.

    It's as if the human species was susceptible to a great illness, manifest throughout the centuries in the most dreadful acts of brutality, tyranny and destruction, against each other and against other beings. No other species we know of leaves such a trail of mayhem in its wake.

    ===

    So, as in this thread's title, Trump is not the answer (though I voted for him, and I'm glad I did, at one level of my being.) Rather the "Trump phenomenon", as well as its opposition, are signs of the times, yet another manifestation of this latest round of mass manipulation.

    The best antidote to these mass viruses of our mind, body and psyche is our own well being - improved awareness of mind, health of body, and strength of psyche. Thus it is with any disease threat - our own well being is the best defense.

    The best way to improved awareness is to try, somehow, to show others what one sees. It is the would be teacher who learns, more than the would be student of that teacher.

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    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    The Long March of the global elite continues.
    Having just read Animal Farm, I am reminded of Benjamin the donkey. I have never actually used Cliff's notes, but for those who have never read the book (and I highly suggest it - an excellent satire) I thought I would share a brief review of the character from the Cliff's notes website (which I just now discovered existed.)

    "As horses are known for their strength, donkeys are known for their stubbornness, and Benjamin stubbornly refuses to become enthusiastic about the rebellion. While all of his comrades delight in the prospect of a new, animal-governed world, Benjamin only remarks, "Donkeys live a long time. None of you has ever seen a dead donkey."

    While this reply puzzles the animals, the reader understands Benjamin's cynical yet not-unfounded point: In the initial moments of the rebellion, Animal Farm may seem a paradise, but in time it may come to be another form of the same tyranny at which they rebelled. Of course, Benjamin is proven right by the novel's end, and the only thing that he knows for sure — "Life would go on as it had always gone on — that is, badly" — proves to be a definitive remark about the animals' lives. Although pessimistic, he is a realist."

    https://www.cliffsnotes.com/literatu...lysis/benjamin

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    I was thinking the same thing. The establishment knows we don't trust them. it's easy enough for them to make someone look edgy and rebellious. The Grateful Dead's Bob Weir was a member of Bohemian Grove, to pick one example of many.

    TPTB know that if they say "don't pick this guy" the electorate will go against their wishes and pick him. Espcially as Hilary was pushed up on stage coughing and spluttering, and grandstanding against Russia. Who would vote for a sick warmonger? In retrospect it was reverse psychology being played out on a mass scale.

    If Trump does OK, good luck to him, but people are wasting a lot of psychic energy waiting on him to sort things out. The BRICS bank was a hero 3-4 years ago. They delivered nothing.

    The best course of action -for me- is to detach from the political circus... and make progress in other fields.
    Fantastic.

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    Another insight from page 144 of Eustace Mullins' 1987 book “The Curse Of Canaan: A Demonology Of History“:
    Quote The Reagan presidency itself represents the high water mark for the black nobility Canaanitecontrol of our government. The Jesuits had boasted that a secret sign was to be given to the worldwhen the ecumenical movement had successfully overcome its worldwide opposition. This signwould be the swearing in of a U.S. President while facing the symbolic occult obelisk. On January20, 1981, for the first time in history, the swearing in ceremonies were moved to the west front of the Capitol. Reagan was sworn in while facing the Washington Monument, the mystical symbol of the Canaanites and the Babylonians.
    Notice that to this day, or should I say last week, with the swearing in of Donald J Trump as the 45th President of the US, the swearing in still occurs on the west front of the Capitol, facing the obelisk that is the Washington Monument. The following image shows the east side of Capitol building in the foreground, and the Washington Monument in the background, with the reflecting pool leading to the Lincoln Monument behind that.
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    Thanks for writing, Paul!
    For the first time in a long time, since even before the whole spectacle of the last election began, I feel like I have a real idea of what is actually going down, and though it's not comfortable, it's better than the constant flip flop that many of us have been doing all this time.
    Being grounded sure beats being on perpetual unsure footing and somehow, as depressing as reality may be, I don't feel depressed-- just sane-- and that's something to build on, at least.
    Anything feels better than feeling foolish, and fooled.
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    ===

    So, as in this thread's title, Trump is not the answer (though I voted for him, and I'm glad I did, at one level of my being.) Rather the "Trump phenomenon", as well as its opposition, are signs of the times, yet another manifestation of this latest round of mass manipulation.

    The best antidote to these mass viruses of our mind, body and psyche is our own well being - improved awareness of mind, health of body, and strength of psyche. Thus it is with any disease threat - our own well being is the best defense.

    The best way to improved awareness is to try, somehow, to show others what one sees. It is the would be teacher who learns, more than the would be student of that teacher.

    That's why I write here - thanks for reading.
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    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    The Long March of the global elite continues.


    No way anything but the desired person is getting into office.
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    Trump has his fans but I've never felt that this board is a Trump Fan Club.
    I feel there are more here like myself who hesitantly and with heavy heart voted for him cause we just weren't voting for clinton. We knew full well that it could turn into a horror show. Going to the polls is almost about voting for 'ambience' as opposed to voting for power, who you vote for is like voting for a Flavor of the Month, it sets a feeling, a mood in the atmosphere. The vibe obama engendered has already changed. I like the vibe feeling now produced by the trump crew already as opposed to the vibe of the crew that just left.

    Superficial? shallow? of course! But none of us is going to stand on the street corner screaming "We are ruled by the zionist banking cartel! We've been serfs since 1913! If we don't free ourselves from the central banking system we will be impoverished controlled digital slaves!!" No one is going to do that. So I'm not looking at all these zionist vids that have recently been posted, what for? Is it going to help me? That group was controlling things before trump came on the scene.

    The next step is how do we protect ourselves from any fallout, especially economic/financial? What would help me/others is perhaps a thread on money and how to protect ourselves when/if the financial markets start collapsing as trump may be used to be The Designated Scapegoat for their decision for an economic reset. I don't need to be convinced how the smallest, richest minority group in the world, (who can also turn around and claim being oppressed by anti-semites (lol!)) is ruling our lives. I don't believe many who voted for trump on this board felt 'Trump is the Answer'. I just didn't feel I had much of a choice.

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    The Magic of Selfless Unification and Action Is Here, Helene West...
    from spirit thought, our hearts are coming together and will bring on one little miracle after another
    as protection of any fallout and the new co-creation of upward mobility...for spirit and science are becoming one now,
    changing of the guards is ensuing! The 'white hats' (woman and men) in the mix of all of this are newly energized!

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    Default Re: Trump is NOT the answer

    Just to be clear, it wasn't my intention to be anti-Semitic by uploading the "Trump Is the Swamp" video just as I don't feel it was TruthMediaRevolution's for creating it. Rather I feel he was simply highlighting an indisputable pattern within the elite structure, which no doubt exists on (and above) both sides of the political spectrum too.

    Being anti-Semitic requires that the person is against all Jews on principle with no exceptions, a term which I don't think applies in this case.

    I would suggest he, like myself is quite simply "anti" the "Semites" and any other groups who are conspiring against humanity for their own personal gain.

    Would he be "anti" these "Semites" for instance?



    I really don't think so.

    So I'd suggest we reserve the application of the term "anti-semitic" to those who really deserve it.

    That said, thanks for not being "lost for words" like I was, Paul. Your commentary on the subject was very helpful.
    the greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated --- Gandhi

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