People Claim To Have Seen A 90s Movie By Sinbad Called “Shazaam” But It Never Existed!?!?

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

That's not even the right girl, she didn't have that enormous bust in the movie I remember, she was a lot younger, teenagerish - hence the big braces grin she wore. I'm trying to parse this out in my head as a false memory, but I can't get there: I was a big Bond fan as a kid and have watched Moonraker multiple times. I can visualize this scene and this girl vividly. The girl in the above utube clip does not match what I recall. For me personally this is the strangest, darnedest, yet most convincing aspect to the mandela effect yet. This is such a bizarre feeling.

If I went back in time 10 years, just for a few moments, and googled 'moonraker girl with braces', would the images come up be the ones I just saw, or the actual ones I remember!?

What the hell is going on

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

The more I think about the scene, the less certain I become that the memory is real. I don't know where this sudden doubt comes from. But I have to ask and must consider: is it simply this which is creating a false memory:



Is it some kind of mental disassociation, whereby the image of 'Jaws' and his mighty metal teeth gets somehow transferred to the girl? Could it be "memory conformity", also known as social contagion of memory? Wikipedia describes it as: a situation in which one person's report of a memory influences another person's report of that same experience.

On hearing others claim that the moonraker girl wore braces, some part of our minds may default to a mental image of the scene and automatically agree: because we are associating 'the moonraker girl' with Jaws - who is known for his metal teeth. Is this what is happening here?

One thing definitely real and observable with the mandela effect, it is a highly contagious phenomenon. Could it then be a trick of the mind/memory? Even false memories can be very persuasive when the power of suggestion is particularly strong, especially in the case of Jaws and his super-sized braces.

I am still open to the mandela effect. My mind is open to all things (in order to take on true knowledge, you have to have an open space for it to enter in) but one has to at least investigate plausible alternatives first.

Just asking the question.

[Akasha]

That female Jaw's admirer never had braces in my memory and that cleavage was firmly imprinted on my brain too when I saw the film on the big screen as an 8 year old.

Did Truthseekah start this thread under a pseudonym? He's all over the home page of mythicist.me which hosted the article in the OP.

[Wind]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Wind (here)
can't I even trust my own memory now?

Yes, you can! It's reality you can't trust...

So what the heck might have happened to our reality then? : P

[Whiskey_Mystic]

What I remember is that the braces were part of the punchline shot at the end where Jaws and his girl were happy together. They both smile revealing their metal teeth. I remember that shot.

[Akasha]

I reckon the confusion is from the wire-rimmed spec's rather than wired teeth.

[seehas]

another one is in back to the future part 1, when doc sends marty into the future for the first time, the terrorists are coming ... in my reality this was a totaly different van.

when i saw it for the first time i was thinking "wow, it wasnt a cool surfers volkswagen bully in the last 50 times ive seen the movie"


this timeline van


the van i can remember



the funny thing here is that even in used car sited this toyota-van is sold as "the back to the future terrorist-van". http://www.carsurvey.org/reviews/toyota/van/1984/

edit: im happy im not the only one seeing this kind of things here on PA

[IChingUChing]

Couldn't see the other Mandela Effect thread so hope ok to post here. There was/is all the discussion about Forest Gump and "Life is/was like a box of chocolates".

I also remember it being "Life is like a box of chocolates" although it seems it is now "Life was like a box of chocolates".

Checked what the dubbing is in German and was happy to see there at least it is stil "Life is like...."!

Here from

https://de.wikiquote.org/wiki/Forrest_Gump:


"Das Leben ist wie eine Schachtel Pralinen - man weiß nie was man kriegt."

» "Life is like a box of chocolates - you never know what you're gonna get."

Halleluja!!!

p.s. I remember the braces on the girl in Moonraker and the Toyota van in Back to the Future. This is plain strange!

[IChingUChing]

This is intriguing:

From http://universalexports.net/Movies/moonraker-cast.shtml

Dolly
Played by: Blanche Ravalec

Description: In perhaps the strangest love affair in the series, Jaws meets Dolly in Rio after his failed attempt on Bond and Goodhead's lives. The complete opposite of Jaws, Dolly is a short blond girl with pigtails, glasses and braces. It is her influence that leads Jaws to the side of good and she also hears the one line Jaws says in his two movies, "Well, here's to us."

However the photo on that website shows her without braces!

Photo without... text with.... curiouser and curiouser!

[42]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by PurpleLama (here)
I wonder if we will ever have a Mandela effect in which the memories date to later than 2001.

Well, I saw Moonraker (for the very first time) — in October 2014. I just checked the torrent download date.

Dolly (the cute, tiny, bespectacled, pigtailed, blonde girl who fell in love with 'Jaws' at the very end of the movie and transformed him) — had braces. ABSOLUTELY. I remember the very amusing little cinematic touch. (And so do tens of thousands of others.)

Now, the braces are not there. I just checked on the movie, that's been sitting there on my external disk the whole time.

It's changed. From the way it was, in my reality, only two years ago. (And that's why I remember it so very clearly.)

Fortean Times has a whole thread on the subject. http://forum.forteantimes.com/index....-or-not.61527/

Speaking as a survivor of the British dental service in the 60's, my braces self destructed after 2 years as well...

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

It really does get weirder and weirder, but I have consoled myself with satisfactorily busting one mandela effect, and one of the biggest of all, that in the beginning started to fuel this whole phenomenon. It is this one:



"Luke, I am your father..."

Many swear blind that Vader said, "Luke, I am your father," not the actual line of "No, I am your father."

The first possible reason why people have misremembered this line, is down to context. When quoting 'movie lines', it is natural to add a non-existing detail to help identify the line, the persons involved, and the movie they are talking about. Another example is, "Play it again, Sam." (from Casablanca, instead of the actual: "You played it for her, you can play it for me. If she can stand it, I can. Play it!"

The reason perhaps isn't so much memory, but laziness. But one's mind can readily adapt (re-write) itself, particularly when associated with repetition, until quite literally a false memory is 'created'.

Secondly: take into account the preceding lines of dialogue in the scene between Vader and Luke - which leads up to this most famous line. No one in this mandela effect meme has ever questioned or doubted the initial proposition that took place prior to the revelation of Luke's real parentage. Here it is:

Vader: "Obi Wan never told you what happened to your father..."
Luke: "He told me enough! He told me you killed him!"

Now let's add the line so many people believe followed this exchange. Read the whole thing.

Vader: "Obi Wan never told you what happened to your father..."
Luke: "He told me enough! He told me you killed him!"
Vader: "Luke, I am your father."

That does not fit in at all! It is not a natural line to say, it doesn't sound right, and actually ruins the scene. It always was, and always shall be:

Vader: "Obi Wan never told you what happened to your father..."
Luke: "He told me enough! He told me you killed him!"
Vader: "No...I am your father."

Going back to the first point about context. If someone asked you 'hey, what's your favourite line, or most memorable line from a movie?', and you thought of this one, it would be very natural to say 'Luke, I am your father,' simply because without inserting the identifier of 'Luke' in the quote, it's likely they wouldn't know what movie or what scene you were talking about. 'Luke' adds context, where, in this instance of making a random quote, context and identification is needed.

I think the Vader/Luke mandela effect is not a valid one, and all down to misinterpretation, which has spawned a kind of verbal myth. And there are many others. ("Beam me up Scotty" was never said either, but has become a kind of 'buzzphrase', because it carries an obvious context immediately identifying it to Star Trek, has an amusing quirk all of its own, and is a lot easier to say than "transporter room, five to beam aboard."

[triquetra]

If it's any help, in the other timeline thread, the Shaq/Kazaam movie was the one that did not exist. The differences in these "let's show the swap in a fun way, as a friendly gesture" crossovers the differences are trivial and somewhat amusing, besides being symmetric. Berenstein or Berenstain both served the role of teaching kids morals, Shazaam and Kazaam served the role of a typical early-mid 90s kids movie. There would not be a need for both.

For anyone remembering a kind of hybrid of the two realities, that group is in a more interesting category, the crossover category.

Think of the threads of the timelines as a kind of Venn diagram. For there to be a crossover these timelines need to not just touch, but to overlap. Depending on how things worked out in your case, you might remember only the reality of one, only the other, or elements of both.

It's hard to put into words to justice, but the takeaway is there's no need to attribute dark explanations behind why the swaps are happening. They are happening for a good reason and you can read into that by the lighthearted nature of what the differences are.