Mass Shooting in Mosque - Quebec City

[Flash]

A shooting is actually occuring in a Quebec City Mosk. Preliminary reports are saying there is some victims, their state is not known yet. Some of Quebec city streets are closed to trafic and busses. Ambulances are at the Mosk.

Talking about extremism and fanatic Muslims, there is also fanatic non Muslims.

I thought this would start in the USA, not in our quite quiet province.

In French:
http://www.msn.com/fr-ca/actualites/...cid=spartandhp

Edit now: two shooters, at least 5 dead

I cannot not think that this is done by extremist islamist since that Mosk and its Imam are moderate and promote moderate Islam

[norman]

Soros-like operation ?

Make the Trump position look as bad as possible so the media can get a foot in the door, and force it open.

[Flash]

Posted by norman (here)
Soros-like operation ?

Make the Trump position look as bad as possible so the media can get a foot in the door, and force it open.

Could be too, either that, or an extremist Muslim false flag to make sure other extremists start the inner war.

[Slant84]

I believe everyone should go on their own spiritual journey in life and maybe it will help with the answers to the questions they seek. I'm not an advocate of organized religion, nor do I disagree with it. I just believe that when people gather in groups and a few are already sick, they can make each other a lot more sick. This can happen in any group that has a central figure to be idolized, or held above the rest of humanity. That's why I go back to my first thought. Find your own spiritual path and chances are it will work out for the best. Condolences to the families, religion doesn't matter in these instances.

[Karma Ninja]

http://www.ottawasun.com/2017/01/29/...ec-city-mosque

Details are just coming in but 2 suspects have been arrested.

[Karma Ninja]

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montre...hots-1.3957686

Our national news site has similar details. Says the shooters had a Quebecois accent so could be another homegrown Quebec born Muslim radical or could be a hate crime against Muslims.

[Flash]

One of the shooter screamed God is great in Arabic but had a local accent. The authorities are considering the attack to be terrorist attack. All measures are being put in place to face terrorist attacks province wide (a province equivalent to a state, for American readers)

[joeecho]

Sometimes when I hear about mass shootings somewhere, I wonder if there is a bigger picture. The driving thought I get is that someone wants to instill fear in a certain populous because fearful people do not act rational. Who benefits the most from an irrational people? Do you think the investigators consider that angle and not just profile the story in a certain way as part of the disinformation age?

I was thinking, why do 'terrorists' target 1-4 places in quick succession and not, say, 10-20 targets? I think it could be they want to control the level of fear and the re-action to the fear. Maybe too much fear will reveal too much about the operation to too many people and jeopardize it.

This is just speculation on my part and may not apply to all 'terrorist' actions.

[Flash]

One arrested suspect is 27 years old and one suspect had an AK47. There is at least 2 suspects, and maybe a third one.

I am going to bed now. And working tomorrow. Other members are invited to post up to date news.

[enfoldedblue]

This makes me so sad. I feel sick when I see all the people who have swallowed hook line and sinker the controllers demonization of Muslims in order to further their divide and conquer agenda. They needed a group to be 'the bad guys' and Muslims were an easy target. So sad that people have taken this propaganda to heart. I even see it among some of the members here . edit(this was supposed to be a sad face)

[Wind]

The timing seems to be too "convenient" once again, adding more fuel to the fire.

[bluestflame]

could point to radicalised targeting uncompliant moderates

[Billy Vasiliadis]

This just sucks. If it was a hate crime, then Muslims are going to further feel like they aren't wanted and are persecuted, increasing the likelihood of people radicalizing. If it was an attack by Muslims, people are going to see it as a justification for further divisiveness, increasing the likelihood of people radicalizing. Vicious circle.

[Foxie Loxie]

Slant/84....I think you nailed it!! If one looks on from the outside of ALL religious groups, they are basically all doing the same thing; being a support group for their adherents. The "fundamentalists" of any group seem to be about the same, mentally. At least that is what I have observed so far in my lifetime.

[Gaia]

In my hometown Québec City everything is back to normal and peaceful like always today.

According to the Journal de Québec, the six dead include two Algerians, a Tunisian, a Moroccan and two others from African countries.

Gee, I thought, being we are in Canada, they might identify as Canadian. My mistake. Trudeau’s vision of multi-culturalism at it’s finest.

Is this considered a terrorist attack when it is really muslim vs muslim violence? In reality it's maybe a stupid infighting between islamic brothers. Too bad the leftist media will brand this incident “Islamophobic” and spin a false narrative.

Toutes mes prières vont aux familles des six victimes et plusieurs vigies sont organisées.

Hollande: «c'est l'esprit de paix et d'ouverture des Québécois que les terroristes ont voulu atteindre».

[Carmody]

The result will likely be opposite from border controls, in effect.

Which is probably part of a 'North American fascist union' plan adjustment. Adjusted in real time.

The whole Fourth Reich thing that has been worked on for the past 70 years, was close to completion and would have worked -----if Hillary was the US president.

Things could have continued.

The people to be attacked would still be streaming in, in the known form of undocumented immigrants, etc. Gotta have the catalyst and focused target in place so the public can bite that particular carrot.

Then the inevitable backlash, the inevitable open fascist police state, and then in the inevitable wars launched out of 'Fortress North America'.

So now a lever will be put in place to police moderates who oppose immigration in Canada, more immigrants allowed into Canada, and a second front of infiltration can take place, and the Fascist north American Union can have it's fake created groundworks take place. Which Trump was, in effect, tearing down.

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The origins of IS and Islamic state terrorism is Wahhabist funding into the many tens of billions, by Saudi Arabia, who loved the Nazi State and were good friends. This started in 1901 or thereabouts, by the crown of Germany as a form of infiltration into the middle east to interfere in US and British interests.

Then the OSS, which became the CIA, which is Skull and bones, and Bush Senior. (one small aspect)

Which takes you to Dallas, JFK, oil, industry, organized crime, and Nazis.



Note Trump's emergent connection to working with the British structure that underlies the UK.

Still the 'same-old same-old' that underlies the situations of today.

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The answer of who is who, will come from the spin this is given by the various factions involved.

This will telegraph the expected motions of the given factions.

[Gaia]

The answer of who is who, will come from the spin this is given by the various factions involved.



Both sides Trump supporters and Hillary supporters are being skillfully manipulated for maximum effect. Listen neither Trump or Clinton were the right choice the establishment won. If any think Trump was a outsider is fooled. There are many similarities between the rise of the Nazis and the rise of Trump.

- First Reich was the Holy Roman Empire
- Second Reich was the German Empire
- Third Reich was Nazi Germany
- Fourth Reich will be Anglo-Saxon America

Adolf Hitler and Donald Trump both have been spawned from the same swamp of political apathy, establishment resentment and political oppression and both share the same ego driven fascist arrogance.

Noam Chomsky prophetically declares : Welcome to the Fourth Reich

[Slant84]

Posted by Foxie Loxie (here)
Slant/84....I think you nailed it!! If one looks on from the outside of ALL religious groups, they are basically all doing the same thing; being a support group for their adherents. The "fundamentalists" of any group seem to be about the same, mentally. At least that is what I have observed so far in my lifetime.

Thanks so much Foxie. I agree with you 100% 😉

[Karma Ninja]

I see most people have jumped to the conclusion that this was the work of a Muslim radical. Even though the attack was against a mosque and the obvious suspicion would be a hate crime. In fact, this was the work of a cowardly Canadian who acted out on his fear and anger toward Muslims. This particular Mosque had been the target of hate crimes on a couple of occasions just before this attack. While those incidents might not be connected by the suspects, they are connected by the hatred and cowardice of the motives.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montre...ette-1.3958559

Our Prime Minister is calling it a terrorist attack against Muslims. I applaud him for that assessment. Somehow I am certain this will get tied back to Trump, even though I am certain the motivation and planning had nothing to do with Trump at all.

This is a sad day for Canada. I know we are better than this...

I heard people at work talking about how this proves that the Quebecois are the most racist and radical of all Canadians. We have had mass shootings against women in Montreal and the shooting on our Parliament was by a Quebec born Muslim convert. People cherry pick the incidents and apply their bigoted opinions. It's so easy to be racist. So much harder to be tolerant. The bigoted Anglo-Canadians will use this to stir up old emotions against Quebec. The weak minded always prey on the weak. Racism is the work of the weak mind that is incapable of understanding the deeper roots of their unhappiness.This is more stupidity from a different angle.

Most of Canada will learn from this and grow. Trust me. We're good people.

[Deega]

Condolences to the families in these difficult times!