Is Snowden to be offered/gifted to Trump?

[Cidersomerset]

Snowden's hilarious (and uninformed statement) about if he is a SPY why would Russia send him back..

I think Snowden said/meant he cannot be a Russian operative , not an American
spy even if he was a desk jockey Not a frontline operative...
if they send him home to America. As they would not send him back to the US if he
is one of their own Russian agents.

But yes they could send an American spy back if the situation arose....

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RT NEWS....

Reports that Moscow is to ‘gift’ Snowden to Trump meant to pressure new
administration – Zakharova
Published time: 12 Feb, 2017 10:34

Recent reports that whistleblower Edward Snowden will be “gifted” to President
Trump are meant to scandalize public opinion and show that the new administration
continues to face pressure from opponents, said Russian Foreign Ministry
spokeswoman.

“Today, US intelligence agencies have stepped up their work, updating two stale
stories, ‘Russia can gift Snowden to Trump’ and ‘confirmation found on the details
of the scandalous dossier on Trump allegedly collected by an ex-employee of British
intelligence.’ But it may seem so only to those who do not understand the essence
of the game,” Foreign Ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova wrote in a Facebook
post on Sunday.

read more....
https://www.rt.com/news/377103-zakha...dministration/

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Edward Snowden Retweeted
Glenn Greenwald ‏@ggreenwald · Jan 18

Clinton's top CIA surrogate Mike Morrell has been urging
Putin give Snowden to Trump as a "gift." Russia's response:

https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/statu...21046739308544

THE NEW YORK TIMES....
Russia Extends Edward Snowden’s Asylum
By ANDREW E. KRAMERJAN. 18, 2017

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/01/18/w...ssia.html?_r=1

[Bob]

Zakharova is the Russian Propaganda mouthpiece.. I cannot believe anything comes out of her mouth that she is not parroting what directives have been given to her to spin for the Russian's Kremlin directives.

Any immigration authorities extending Snowden's welcome is easily over-ridden by Putin. However I don't think Trump wants Snowden back if he has been briefed that Snowden was a psyops operation conducted by the NSA to make them seem "all powerful".. They are not. But something which would cause the whole world to focus on Snowden, "revealing hidden information" would catch the attention of all. That logic is brilliant.. simply brilliant.. People love a conspiracy and they fell totally into it. Trump has made it very clear, he wants to drain the swamp, there is no other way to do that without stirring the pot, or in the Snowden Affair, making it seem that there are infinite monitors on personal private matters, to "freak" out everyone.

The moment people feel that they are spied on, is when something will change, and that change is what is being looked for, any change in communications.. THAT then gets them flagged, imho..

[Cidersomerset]

Zakharova is the Russian Propaganda mouthpiece.. I cannot believe anything
comes out of her mouth that she is not parroting what directives have been given to
her to spin for the Russian's Kremlin directives.

Definitely just like Kelly Anne , Maria Harf , Jen Psaki , Sean Spicer and all the others.....


State Dept's Harf accuses AP's Matt Lee of 'buying into Russian propaganda'

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=vb0nK9ztZZg

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Matt Lee bulldozes State Department's Jen Psaki over Edward Snowden's free speech

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=gf3iYI479oI

Publishe....2013

[Cidersomerset]

As you know Trump is under a lot of pressure about his pro Russian comments
and many are attacking him in the US , there is a article today about UK
attacks coincidently. More scare, scare, scare.....




UK targeted by 'dozens' of serious cyber attacks each month

Britain's security has been threatened by 188 high-level cyber attacks
in the last three months, according to a government security chief.

Ciaran Martin, chief executive of the National Cyber Security Centre
(NCSC), told the Sunday Times many of the attacks "threatened national security".

Attempts by Russian and Chinese state-sponsored hackers were
among those being investigated, he added.

Mr Martin spoke ahead of the official opening of the NCSC in London.


read more...http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-38951172

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Bare in mind UK and US intelligence are close and one will help the other in scare tactics as well...

'No evidence whatsoever of Russian cyber attacks against UK' - former British intel officer

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=c4CPsINHyU4

Published on 12 Feb 2017

The NSA hacked the private mobile phone of German Chancellor Merkel, but nobody
is saying 'we must protect ourselves from America hacking us,' said Annie Machon,
former British intelligence officer. It's an ongoing process of demonizing Russia, she added.

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CIA NN really hate Trump....

Franken: Investigate Trump's Russia

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=DoTQWA7d7pE

Published on 12 Feb 2017
Sen. Al Franken calls for an investigation into the Trump administration's
relationship with Russia.

[Bob]

When we are so blinded that NSA can easily mind______ us, we are clearly falling under their spell.. Damn they are good. Understanding exactly how to manipulate MSM and social media..

Knowing EMOTIONAL triggers ARE the way to get to anyone, the moment EMOTION is triggered the mind is OPENED to programming or spin, or in frank, anything.. That is how it is done..

It is a tossup, is it the Snowden Affair or Pizzagate, or Vatican-Gate affair (Priests molesting kids) which will be the best button to use on people. I think it is a tossup.. Many people will choose Pizzagate or the Vatican affair priests molesting children (the ultimate abuse of TRUST)... to be their button. We shall see, how the Snowden button is used. I have seen enough threads and post on all 3 to say people are intensely opened up and therefore manipulated by the "data" offered afterwards by, MSM.

So what we can ask ourselves, IS Snowden a Chip to be bartered to the US? Is the Snowden leaked information "real" or a carefully planned campaign by the NSA to use Snowden and the MSM to create a desired "belief system", and is Snowden going to be traded? If we believe the Propaganda ministers nobody can be sure of anything... we see what they want us to see. What though do we believe and WHY do we believe that? That may offer some insight into ourselves and how we believe we fit into the scheme of things worldwide.

BTW, Lou Dobbs (Fox Business) who would have jumped on ANY pro-Trump scoop refused to even come close (the plutonium nature of Snowden being used by NSA to create a massive campaign against the world) to even mention Snowden - very out of character, but also very revealing that FOX is looking closely at the potential that we all have been "used" by NSA.. Can we hear "MockingBird" out in the distance coming closer? We shall see.

[Bob]

Understanding the manipulative Snowden Film -

we all have been "used" by NSA that is something to keep in mind, when EMOTION is triggered the mind is opened, able to be lead by the breadcrumbs skillfully placed by the trained operator... never forget this...

http://www.nextgov.com/technology-ne...curate/131911/

John Breeden II is an award-winning journalist and reviewer with over 20 years of experience covering technology and government. He is currently the CEO of the Tech Writers Bureau, a group that creates technological thought leadership content for organizations of all sizes. Twitter: @LabGuys

The new Oliver Stone film, "Snowden," promises to tell the true story of contractor Edward Snowden in his quest to expose a National Security Agency program that could allegedly track all forms of digital communication. Even with my limited perspective as a journalist who covered that event, I knew enough to spot dozens of historical and technical inaccuracies while watching the film. But I wanted to see just how badly the facts were mangled, so I sat down with Chris Inglis, who was the deputy director of the NSA during the incident.

“The film was grossly incorrect technically, but that was not the most egregious thing about the movie,” Inglis said. “It’s that it was spiritually incorrect. It was well wide of conveying a true sense of how the NSA purports itself, on what its role was and on what Snowden’s role was.”

And it’s a topic that Inglis remembers well. When watching the film, emotions about Snowden’s betrayal are raw, even though he says that he has never allowed them to negatively affect him. “I can’t afford those emotions,” Inglis said. “In the summer of 2013, we suffered a disastrous loss of our capabilities, so what I told the workforce was that they had every right to be angry, disappointed and possibly your hearts are broken ... but you can’t afford that. Because you have to do your job, which is to keep people safe, at a time when your capabilities have been terribly undermined.”

The film portrays Snowden as a patriot who becomes disillusioned with the U.S. after seeing the NSA trampling individual rights. Inglis says nothing is further from the truth, and that Snowden was a low-level contractor with suspect motives who would not have even had the capability to see many of the things his character experienced in in the film, even if any of it were actually true.

“As a system admin, his job was to activate and deactivate accounts, populate SharePoint servers, show people how to collect and how to search,” Inglis said. “But he never had access to the tools themselves. He was never allowed to search or to write reports. So when he, at a distance, saw these capabilities, he came to false conclusions about how they were being used…in most cases, he got it dead wrong.”

In the film Snowden is elevated from his IT job to that of an almost super spy type of character with wide-ranging powers and responsibilities that he never had in real life. This mirrors what Snowden said back in 2013, when he bragged that he as an analyst could have targeted the communications of the president of the United States.

Inglis says that is a complete lie, for several reasons. First off, Snowden was never an analyst, and never had targeting authority. Secondly, the systems are not set up to be able to easily target domestic communications. Instead, they are designed to monitor foreign traffic where the most useful intelligence resides. And finally, even if Snowden had tried to do anything like that, he would not have been able to because there are built-in two-person control authorizations for all of those systems.

The movie also fails from a technical standpoint, giving the NSA seemingly god-like technical powers that simply don’t exist according to Inglis, at least not in the high-tech futuristic ways they are depicted in the movie. “The depiction of the telephone metadata database, I don’t know if that was Oliver Stone’s characterization or Snowden’s, but it’s grossly wrong,” Inglis said. “NSA does have some impressive technology, though we are probably lagging behind the private sector for some of it, to put together some very intricate patterns to create predictive insights, but you wouldn’t apply it to the US person’s telephone metadata.”

“What they showed up on the screen, and I am not saying there is not an assembler like that—I think it’s technically feasible—but what they showed contained pictures, real-time content, email and social media connections, all of which was, by law, off the table,” Inglis said. “You could not use the telephone metadata that way. The movie made it seem like the NSA used that to gain deep insights into the domestic affairs of citizens, and that is simply not true.”

In fact, in all of 2012 when Snowden supposedly became shocked and disillusioned with the government, Inglis says the metadata was only queried 288 times. It could only be done if a foreign number connected with one of three terrorist groups was suspected of reaching out to a contact inside the U.S. Analysts would input the suspected foreign number and if it was connecting to a phone inside the U.S., that new number would be spit back out. The results only gave the U.S. number, not any names or anything else connected to it. Inglis said the NSA then had to call the FBI for help in getting more information about the new number, something he says it did only 13 times in 2012. That is a far cry from the all-knowing, all-seeing supercomputer depicted in the Snowden movie.

Inglis has since left his position at NSA, though not because of Snowden. In fact, he was getting ready to retire when the incident broke and decided to stay on for an additional year to help the agency rebuild. Today he spreads out his time in various ways, including teaching cyber studies as a visiting professor at the U.S. Naval Academy, performing charity work and acting as the chairman of the Securonix Strategic Advisory Board. He is also the chairman of the NSA’s National Cryptologic Museum in Fort Meade, Maryland.

Securonix worked with Inglis to create a short video pointing out some of the very high-level mistakes made by the movie, and to explain why people should likely not take almost anything depicted in it as fact.

https://youtu.be/5dCBjvHOl3o

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=5dCBjvHOl3o

Inglis seems to have weathered the storm personally just as the agency he used to lead did. “My experience with the NSA has been very helpful to me in my second career,” he said. “And my experience with Snowden has also been helpful because I can now help people know what it’s like to deal with a low-probability high conflict event, and what you have to think about when you consider that it might happen to you. I can also share what mistakes we made, and help others avoid them.”

[Wind]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=auyVyMWmQ9o

[Bob]

Back in September 29, 2013, when the Snowden Affair was unfolding, Lee Rogers, of Blacklisted News took a critical look at Snowden, and the buttons presented by the Media.

Here are a few of his observations and questions from his article

Ever since Edward Snowden the former NSA contractor leaked a myriad of secret documents exposing these programs, we hear more and more about just how wide spread the NSA’s activities have been. But who exactly is Edward Snowden?

This is a question that not very many people have asked.

He just has the look and feel of a character invented by media hype and propaganda.

The "Buttons" being tested on people through the MEDIA (apparently to gauge which ones get the most traction and discussion) - WHICH of those buttons below do you react to? Gauge them on a scale of 1-10, where 10 is the most reactive feeling, and 1 is the least..

• NSA Gathers Data On Social Connections Of U.S. Citizens
• NSA Disguised Itself As Google To Spy Say Reports
• NSA Spied On Brazilian and Mexican Presidents
• NSA Is Also Grabbing Millions Of Credit Card Records
• Protesting NSA Spying Brazil’s Leader Postpones White House Visit
• The NSA Is Reading All The Stuff You Think You Have Encrypted
• NSA Shares Raw Intelligence Including Americans’ Data With Israel
• NSA Is Wired Into Top Internet Companies’ Servers, Including Google and Facebook

Believability (or lack thereof) of Snowden

It is extremely hard to believe that the most well-funded and sophisticated data collection organization in existence could suffer such an enormous document leak detailing its high level operations from anyone even if they had broader network access like Snowden.

Snowden in particular was a contract employee who had only held this position for a few months so it is difficult to understand how this even happened in the first place.

NSA had 1,000 systems administrators on staff many of which had to be exclusively focused on information security. {We can only assume that} the leaks were part of a sanctioned operation. The fact that he (Snowden) was just able to grab a treasure trove of files, copy it on to a USB drive and walk out with little difficulty sounds like fantasy.

Background question about US ARMY service: We are told that he enlisted in the U.S. Army as a Special Forces recruit but was discharged after breaking both of his legs in a training accident. This doesn’t make sense because the U.S. Army wouldn’t discharge someone just because their legs were broken. They would be allowed to heal and would resume training once they were 100%.

The U.S. Army won’t discharge somebody unless they feel as if they have no other choice.

His alleged discharge also happened at around the same time when stop loss policies were put into place to prevent people from leaving due to the on-going Iraq war so who knows how true all of this is. The U.S. Army has not released his DD-214 or discharge papers so much of this is difficult to confirm.

Following Snowden’s alleged training accident he found work as a security guard for the Center for Advanced Study of Language at the University of Maryland.

Shortly after his security guard work, he landed a job at the CIA dealing with information technology (IT) security.

How does one go from being a security guard, to working at the CIA in IT security with no prior IT job experience or credentials?

Snowden claimed that he had no trouble getting the job because he was a computer wizard.

If he was such a computer wizard why didn’t he get a computer related job to begin with instead of taking a job as a security guard?

It is true that there are some people who get high paying technology jobs without degrees and credentials but those people usually have a breadth of experience.

Snowden had no real world technology job experience. The whole story reeks of lies.

At only 23 years of age he is put in charge of maintaining network security. So here we have someone with no prior technology job experience and they just decide to put him in charge of network security? This is a role that would more often than not go to somebody with much more experience.

After Snowden’s work at the CIA he held various contract positions.

He (Snowden) had only worked at Booz Allen Hamilton inside the NSA for three months before leaking the documents.

So after just three months in this position he was able to find all of these documents exposing at a high level all of these sensitive NSA programs?

Common sense would dictate that this is a very unlikely scenario.

Salary Lies

Snowden also claimed that he was given a $200,000 a year salary where as Booz Allen Hamilton said he was making $120,000 a year.

Are we really to believe that this guy is such a saint that he willfully decided to ruin his life, give up a high paying job and a comfortable lifestyle in order to expose all of this information?

Most people who decide to join the CIA in any capacity are professional liars to begin with so this in of itself is hard to believe.

Organized Media Campaign

Shortly after Snowden made his way to Hong Kong professionally made banners supporting him immediately began popping up out of the ether around the city.

Even flash mobs were organized in support of him.

How convenient considering that the CIA through his own admission have maintained a significant presence in Hong Kong.

Who's backing him? Over in Russia when he landed, only one organization was releasing photos - Human Rights Watch.

George Soros the billionaire is a big financial backer of the organization which explains the organization’s biased leanings.

There are undoubtedly many other questions surrounding the whole Snowden story but these in of themselves are enough to indicate that Snowden is probably another phony hero created by the intelligence and media circles.

[norman]

[I can't find a previous posting of this interview]

This is the best interview with Snowden I've ever heard.

Here's just one little gem from his mind:

"Privacy is the foundation of all other rights. I would say, arguing that you don't care about privacy because you have nothing to hide, is no different than saying you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say".

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=mmZpMqMxo2Q