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    Default Re: Trump 'orders all protest of his policies to be criminalized and press silenced', says Veterans Today

    Quote Posted by iAMWE (here)
    The Internet will morph into a blockchained, tightly controlled platform that can be audited in real time, and every post, every transaction, every patterned series of uploaded information/videos/audios will be analyzed and traceable back to the source...all because people couldn't behave themselves and elected to use their freedom to attack others under the guise of anonymity.
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    Default Re: Trump 'orders all protest of his policies to be criminalized and press silenced', says Veterans Today

    While I don't think that Avalon is a right leaning site in the least I do feel that there seems to be a lot of Trump support. I feel there is a belief here that Trump is working outside the "elite" or "regular handlers" and that we need to give him time and if we don't like what he is doing then we are just buying into the leftist "fake news" propaganda.

    I have not for some time partook in mainstream media. I particularly avoid CNN and Fox News as I found them to be more about entertainment then news.

    I do not doubt for a moment that CNN and other mainstream news agencies are biassed against Trump.

    However, based on the speeches and news articles I have read from a variety of sources and Trump's own tweets I personally don't like the guy. I continue to hope for the best but I don't like his Mexican Wall, his extreme vetting and the bullying tone he takes frequently when he disagrees with people or groups.

    I do hope that he will in fact challenge the status quo and not take the world into more middle eastern conflict. I also hope he can take back American monetary sovereignty from the FED. If he does either of these things I will consider him a hero despite not agreeing with some of his policies.

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    Default Re: Trump 'orders all protest of his policies to be criminalized and press silenced', says Veterans Today

    As the big fight against Trump is so much about his WALL and extreme vetting etc, I think this interview with Adrian Davies on Red Ice Radio ( in July 2016 ) in the aftermath of the UK Brexit vote fits in with this thread well enough, though I'm off to find the Brexit thread later to post it there too.

    It's the 2nd hour of a 2 hour interview so there is no youtube version of this. It's audio only, hosted from my Box account.

    Adrian ( a barrister ) says some great lines, as well as make good sense. I particularly like this one ( speaking as a person who voted for leaving the EU ):

    " They speak of their respect for diversity but it is WE who value diversity, not those who's policy is to merge us into one "


    Play or Download from here:
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    Default Re: Trump 'orders all protest of his policies to be criminalized and press silenced', says Veterans Today

    Speaking of blockchaining the Internet et al:

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-0...chain-alliance

    First the money will be blockchained, then other forms of information (e.g., Internet 2.0), compliments of the imminent clash of civilizations after Abbas is assassinated by "rogue" Russian operatives, in response for having their nest of domestic operatives in the U.S. taken out.

    http://www.politicususa.com/2017/02/...stigation.html

    So you can thank Putin et al for your imminent loss of online freedom to attack innocent people.
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    Default Re: Trump 'orders all protest of his policies to be criminalized and press silenced', says Veterans Today

    Bruno

    Did you know in your country there is a bill (or a motion, don't know Canadian goings-on that much), I believe it is M-103 being proposed in your Parliament in Ottawa that seeks to condemn and criminalize Islamophobia. I learned about this through one of the speakers at Cpac last weekend, a Clare Lopez, who is a security policy activist. I've heard whisperings over the years about Canada and hate speech laws but never any hard info along those lines.

    There are americans who think if things get bad here they will run to Canada like it's some big haven of freedom. I have a feeling that may be a pleasant illusion. I wouldn't mind hearing more about Canadian current events. Maybe it's coincidence in what I'm noticing in the forum, I'm still a relatively new poster, but a handful of the more active Canadians posting seem more concerned about Trump than assaults on their own country's sovereignty and rights.

    Wondering if you heard anything about M-103?

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    Default Re: Trump 'orders all protest of his policies to be criminalized and press silenced', says Veterans Today

    Quote Posted by iAMWE (here)
    Speaking of blockchaining the Internet et al:

    http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-0...chain-alliance

    First the money will be blockchained, then other forms of information (e.g., Internet 2.0), compliments of the imminent clash of civilizations after Abbas is assassinated by "rogue" Russian operatives, in response for having their nest of domestic operatives in the U.S. taken out.

    http://www.politicususa.com/2017/02/...stigation.html

    So you can thank Putin et al for your imminent loss of online freedom to attack innocent people.
    one word undercuts this theory:

    Encryption.

    there is already a "dark web"... there will be more, if needed

    never doubt the power of geekdom... if you pay attention to the right places, corporate "software protection" is usually broken with in days of release... there's a VERY vibrant "grey" market on the internet populated by these and those who care to look....

    just because it's not publicized much doesn't mean it's not flourishing.

    unless our computers take a litteral "quantum" leap forward (quantum computing is still mostly useless currently) this will not be possible from a hardware point of view...

    especially now that we are pushing 255Tb/s or more.... the amount of power it would take to analyze all those packets does not exist right now.

    the best they can do is copy everything, and go back later and investigate (though, that is bad enough) but if you have strong encryption..... well you win
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    Default Re: Trump 'orders all protest of his policies to be criminalized and press silenced', says Veterans Today

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    Speaking of blockchaining the Internet et al:
    I disagree with your forecasts, for multiple reasons.

    ===

    1. Blockchain technology is tens of thousands of times too slow.

    Blockchain technology is a method for consistently updating a "database", a shared store of records.

    But rather than the traditional method of having one "big, trusted" server (say at your bank) running the master copy of the database, and insuring that all updates are Atomic, Consistent, Isolated, and Durable (ACID) by sequencing them all through that one database, instead several computers, each perhaps under independent control, each perhaps unreliable, and all connected by potentially unreliable networks, work together to decide what sequence of update operations to apply to the shared data and to preserve a single, widely agreed to, record of the transactions applied so far. No one computer or network is indispensible to arriving at a reliable result.

    Unfortunately, this blockchain technology is slow and expensive. The current dominant blockchain based crypto-currency, Bitcoin, has many thousands of computers working on handling transactions around the world. The computer I am now typing on is one of those computers. Bitcoin struggles to handle a couple hundred transactions per minute, for the entire planet, combined.

    According to a variety of sites, such as The Amount of Data Created Each Day on the Internet in 2016 (gwava.com), we are sending millions (not hundreds) of text messages, facebook posts, email messages and such per minute.

    Just this one little forum, ProjectAvalon.net, handled up to 70 update transactions per minute sometime last month, January 2017. So just three puny forums such as ours would saturate the world's entire, rather massive, Bitcoin blockchain infrastructure, and more over, would take tens of minutes, not just a few seconds, to handle each new post.

    You'd have about as much luck getting a Lockheed C-5 Galaxy cargo plane off the ground using four ordinary lawn mower engines.

    ===

    2. Blockchain technology is more suitable for enhancing privacy, than for mandating its abolition.

    A key reason that people are attracted to Bitcoin is that its blockchain technology improves privacy. Even though the entire Bitcoin blockchain is public record, one cannot look at it and see who did what. You seem to be saying that blockchain technology will be used to abolish privacy on social media. That's backwards.

    ===

    3. Granting any state power total control over and surveillance of all Web transactions is an intolerable destruction of our human freedom.

    Despite the efforts of tyrants throughout recorded human history (and likely through even more human history that is no longer part of the public record), humanity will not tolerate such totalitarian overreach of human freedom.

    ===

    4. Blaming it on the Russians -- getting a bit old.

    The meme "The Russians did it, the Russians did it!" is getting a bit dog-eared. There are some seriously dark bastards in all the major capitals of the world, and elsewhere.

    ===

    5. (Written later, after reading TargeT's above reply) -- Encryption.
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    Default Re: Trump 'orders all protest of his policies to be criminalized and press silenced', says Veterans Today

    Can you provide more info regarding the scalar transmutation of black goo in the upper atmosphere? That sounds very interesting.
    I am a fan of Harald, but as to the Garabandal Warning, I think you posted something about that before (or someone did) and I researched it enough to see that it could easily have been a psyop, as many so-called "visions" of Catholic laypeople may easily have been.
    Even though our secret governments haven't had the kind of technology that can fake apparitions for very long, other races who have been messing with Earth humans' heads certainly have had it, and have their agendas for keeping us in fear and ignorance and confusion.
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    In other words, humanity is in over its head...and the sheer magnitude of intervention required to balance the collective thinking of the humanity will no longer allow for a "smooth" transition to a genuinely peaceful civilization. The false peace agreement that will result from the chain of events outlined above is NOT the transition I am referring to. No, upper elementals that are powerful enough to manifest massive geophysical upheavals will be ordered by what are referred to as Triune Selves within the Realm of Permanence with the task of resetting civilization in a few years. Why not this year?...there is a partial reset - only enough to orchestrate the false peace agreement and centralize control over the masses. The Garabandal Warning will be used to pacify the masses into subservience by the elite. The Great Chastisement is the actual reset expected to transpire in a few years, because again, humanity is in over its head.

    Note Harald's summary starts around the 49 minute mark. Note also the feel-good discussion around the 34 minute mark, confirming that the only enemy is an AI that perpetuates ignorance and fear within the human collective.

    The longer we wait to create destiny through balanced thinking, the harder this transition to peace will be for everyone. One approach is to recreate what is described by Harald, starting at the 28:50 mark, in which black goo crystalline structures in the upper atmosphere was transmuted by something directing a scalar energy from above that particular layer of the upper atmosphere. This is an intervention of a higher order...source of positive intervention unknown. When attempting intervention from the Earth's surface, the scalar shift does not work as it should due to a corrective phase shift that simply reinforces the black goo / Morgellons crystalline structures.

    STOP PLAYING GAMES. ELIMINATE PREJUDICE AND PREFERENCE IN YOUR LIVES, IN ORDER TO SEE THINGS AS THEY ARE. Once an individual sees things as they are, they will know what to do and what not to do. The inability of the human collective to see things as they are has resulted in a blurring of the lines between knowing what to do and what not to do. Monarch Model MK ULTRA type of programs intentionally blur the lines, making it impossible for a victim of this program to know the difference between good and evil; therefore, their desire to do good over evil is eliminated...they become their own worst enemies. Feeling and desire must drive the thinking of the body mind through the desire for self-knowledge, rather than the body-mind perpetuating carnal desires that perpetuate our modern, unbalanced civilization, as expressed and affirmed by a lack of honesty and truthfulness. In fact, a lack of integrity has become so commonplace, so pervasive within modern society that most people are no longer able to distinguish between honest and dishonest people, hence the inevitably of an authorization of higher order elementals by Triune Selves within the Realm of Permanence to reset civilization in a few years.
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    Default Re: Trump 'orders all protest of his policies to be criminalized and press silenced', says Veterans Today

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    Can you provide more info regarding the scalar transmutation of black goo in the upper atmosphere?
    any time I hear scalar, but especially when paired with transmutation... I think new-age-buzz-word-gobblygook.....


    First lets start with the word "scalar"

    Scalar may refer to:

    Scalar (mathematics), an element of a field, usually a real number, which is used to define a vector space
    Scalar (physics), a quantity represented by a mathematical scalar that is independent of specific classes of coordinate systems, or one that is usually said to be described by a single real number
    Lorentz scalar, a quantity in the theory of relativity which is invariant under a Lorentz transformation
    Variable (computing), or scalar, an atomic quantity that can hold only one value at a time


    NONE of those meanings really make sense with the way the word is being used...

    Also "black goo" and "crystalline structure" I'm not sure that 2 sets of words could give more of a different mental image; is this a reflection of the authors cognitive dissonance?

    I can't get very far into these topics due to their mis-use of words (and, usually, lack of evidence).

    Its an interesting topic, especially when tied into Morgellons disease, but.. it seems like its not very focused...

    where's some good reading on this?

    This one was terrible:
    http://www.strangeconspiracies.com/2...omes-from.html
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    Default Re: Trump 'orders all protest of his policies to be criminalized and press silenced', says Veterans Today

    Quote Posted by TargeT (here)
    First lets start with the word "scalar"
    I take the word "scalar" in such uses to be rather like the word "quantum" ... as a reference, in a magical, mystifying way, to physical processes that cannot be reasonably explained using the lobotomized physics that has been "accepted science" in our universities and public discourse for the last century.

    In my clearer moments, I no longer spend much effort trying to make sense of the words in such discourse, but rather try to look through them to see if I can discern what is actually happening, and what might be a better physics to understand what's happening.
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    Default Re: Trump 'orders all protest of his policies to be criminalized and press silenced', says Veterans Today

    Just as an aside, scalar technology is something that has been described as being used to create the illusion (holograms) of planes hitting the Twin Towers, and if that is really a way in which such a technology could be used, it could then also be associated with the creation of apparitions made to look like saints, such as those in the "Garabandal Warning."
    (Though I have no idea what the connection might be between those two event within the context of this discussion, such as it is...)

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    Default Re: Trump 'orders all protest of his policies to be criminalized and press silenced', says Veterans Today

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    In Veterans Today. this article is titled: "Trump Orders All Protests of His Policies “Criminalized” and Press Silenced"
    Fake news.

    Thanks for posting this though. If this obviously fabricated article flew right past your BS detector (far from any crack down, Trump is the most vilified president in the MSM ever), now I know to take everything else you might post with a huge grain of salt.

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    I see Project Avalon is now a pro-Trump site that shouts down and bullies anyone saying otherwise.

    I am astonished considering the daily executive orders that Trump is signing to Big Business and Predators to nullify all restrictions to their ability to destroy clean water, air and soil. Russian collusion with the fascist right wing led by Bannon, Manafort, Miller - far right wing mercenaries who have worked for years for Putin to do the same to Poland, Ukraine, Hungary, making Billions of dollars for their efforts, obviously means nothing. There's no question the Democrats are incompetent corporate buffoons but they ain't got anything compared to these guys.
    This is the feeling I've have too, that many Avalonians are pro Trump which gives me a bad feeling. I have been away from the forum for many reasons, this is one another is the contempt many Avalonians show for David Wilcock.

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    Default Re: Trump 'orders all protest of his policies to be criminalized and press silenced', says Veterans Today

    Avalon is a forum with members from many different countries with various different political views, pro Scottish independence referendum and anti independence. Pro Brexit and anti Brexit. so yes, there are pro Trump and there are anti Trump members. Anti Trump does not mean pro Clinton. Many members have expressed that there was no real choice in the American elections and are anti Trump and anti Clinton. Some like myself were delighted that the war mongering Clinton's failed to win the elections but are still on the fence regarding the new President Trump and have a wait and see attitude. A by their fruits you shall know them attitude.

    Personally, considering the divisions and hate the USA elections stirred up with close family members falling out and now not speaking with each other, along with stupid riots and hate beatings. Avalon has been a great example on how people from different view points can debate and express themselves with respect for each other.

    Again, personally I have had enough of the great distraction of the political divisions. The whole political control system sucks and always has, it is full of liars and criminal cheats who take from the people just to line their own pockets. . The system is no longer viable and needs to go.

    And do not listen to those who give worthless predictions. Some good people with good intentions have lost their way recently and still continue to attempt to see into the future. But their track record of predictions shows that they are way off track. Come back to the now moment and make the difference that you potentially have within to make that difference.

    One thing most Avalon members have in common, is their inner passion and desire that whatever the outcome, it will be for the betterment of all humanity. Bringing a long awaited peace to this troubled planet.

    Peace still seems a long way away but never lose sight of what truly matters.

    Peace out.
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    Default Re: Trump 'orders all protest of his policies to be criminalized and press silenced', says Veterans Today

    Quote Posted by iAMWE (here)
    1. Everything is a psiop.

    2. Everything comprised of ones and zeroes sent through the main Internet server hubs around the world will be blockchained:
    http://www.stevequayle.com/index.php?s=33&d=1973

    The centralized governments around the world will become more centralized after the various peace agreements around the world are finalized. Do I want this outcome?...no.
    Hi,

    If one says something definitively like... "The centralized governments around the world will become more centralized after the various peace agreements around the world are finalized," does this concern iAMWE that by doing so, one places this thought into the MEST where the odds are raised that the thought manifests? (my own emphasis on the word "will")

    Saying these things in this way does not seem (at least not to me) to align with the statement -

    Quote Do I want this outcome?...no.

    ADDED: Billy... thanks for the post above, you described my own overall view as well.
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    Quote Posted by ALLARON (here)
    I see Project Avalon is now a pro-Trump site that shouts down and bullies anyone saying otherwise.

    I am astonished considering the daily executive orders that Trump is signing to Big Business and Predators to nullify all restrictions to their ability to destroy clean water, air and soil. Russian collusion with the fascist right wing led by Bannon, Manafort, Miller - far right wing mercenaries who have worked for years for Putin to do the same to Poland, Ukraine, Hungary, making Billions of dollars for their efforts, obviously means nothing. There's no question the Democrats are incompetent corporate buffoons but they ain't got anything compared to these guys.

    This is the feeling I've have too, that many Avalonians are pro Trump which gives me a bad feeling. I have been away from the forum for many reasons, this is one another is the contempt many Avalonians show for David Wilcock.
    I'm pro keeping our eye on the ball and getting the job done. Trump is a potential crowbar in the door, that we have not had since JFK and as far as I can tell, every right minded person has been wanting for this opportunity all along. It comes in the form of a blond Israel loving brute and people display horror and disapproval. What do they want, equal rights for crooks?

    It's not about polishing a political turd, it's about removing crooks from power and changing the paradigm. Wilcock can do a great job of painting a picture of what we want. Trump can do a great job of starting the process of getting there.
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    Default Re: Trump 'orders all protest of his policies to be criminalized and press silenced', says Veterans Today

    Quote Posted by Helene West (here)
    Just the fact that the OP went out of her way, put her energy into searching for an unflattering pic, back to the camera on an apparently very windy day showing the seat of his pants - to back up her opinions, speaks volumes to me.
    critical thinking at best. i think most people in our society today normally fail to read the small prints. the intention and the coherence of the message itself is normally left out when it should be the primary basis. any message has a central theme. anything that deviate or seemingly irrelevant should raise the red flag and investigated

    in this case the subliminal is fat behind which immediately implant upon the reader a negative trump thus the reader will readily believe negative info about trump. so the the intention clearly is to destroy trump not convey the truth.

    off topic but worth pointing out. imo

    to the topic now. my children FB is swamped with the negative donald the joker duck images and info. never seen like this before so much so that it reinforce my belief that he is not a globalist boy and that the elite is really working against him and not just some controlled opposition which makes him pro people to me. which also gives credit to mr Steele claims.
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    Default Re: Trump 'orders all protest of his policies to be criminalized and press silenced', says Veterans Today

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    Did you know in your country there is a bill (or a motion, don't know Canadian goings-on that much), I believe it is M-103 being proposed in your Parliament in Ottawa that seeks to condemn and criminalize Islamophobia. I learned about this through one of the speakers at Cpac last weekend, a Clare Lopez, who is a security policy activist. I've heard whisperings over the years about Canada and hate speech laws but never any hard info along those lines.

    There are americans who think if things get bad here they will run to Canada like it's some big haven of freedom. I have a feeling that may be a pleasant illusion. I wouldn't mind hearing more about Canadian current events. Maybe it's coincidence in what I'm noticing in the forum, I'm still a relatively new poster, but a handful of the more active Canadians posting seem more concerned about Trump than assaults on their own country's sovereignty and rights.

    Wondering if you heard anything about M-103?

    Hi Helene, my apologies I only saw your post today. I have heard of the bill, but I am by no means an expert on it. I can only really comment on the general culture and attitudes of my little part of Canada that is quite urban and diverse. Most people in Southern Ontario, where I live, support the bill. There have been a number of high profile attacks on Muslim people and on Mosques in Canada over the past few years. I know you would have heard about the one in Quebec where a number of Muslim Canadians were killed in a mosque during evening prayer. Although I don't think the bill was created as a result of that one event it has gained momentum because of it.

    As far as Canada being a safe haven, I suppose it depends on what one values? I take it you have concerns about the Bill? I am am not personally worried about it. It doesn't attempt to remove any rights of mine that I can see. It's about freedom of religious persecution. If the bill were only about persecution of Muslims or if it were about Sharia law I would have concerns. The Bill is broad and includes other forms of religious intolerance. As for Sharia law, which people like to bring up whenever protections for Muslim groups come up.... Not in my Canada, not ever. Coming to Canada means living by Canadian laws.

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