High profile people born with the opposite sex

[AutumnW]

IMHO, as I stated in a prior post, there is the biological reality--and if you think about it, men becoming more 'human' and less emotionally stunted, brittle replicas of human beings began around the 60's by men and women who were teens or in their twenties.

The factors at play were mainly cultural -- a reaction to fathers who drank, molested their kids, beat their wives, OR came home from work and hid behind a newspaper, avoiding their families as much as they could, creating a sterile void in the home.

The biology is interesting though and may play a small part here. The boomers were the first generation born into the plastic age. There could have been a tiny effect from the estrogenic compounds, at that time, that provided impetus for social change. Estrogenic compounds, in utero, have a feminizing effect on male foetuses. What many don't know, is that female foetuses are masculinized by the same estrogenic compounds.

As the use of plastics have increased, so too have these effects, until finally, there are more people being born who may be physically male or female, with apparent androgynous features. But what might be even more important is how they are wired mentally. A man might have a feminized brain and vice versa. That is where the transgender phenomenon comes into play.

The phenomenon is definitely being used as a divisive political force to divide the left and provide fuel for a hard right backlash, eventually.

[Akeron]

Posted by Shannon (here)
I don't think there's too many real transsexuals that are hiding now a days (in Hollywood that is) It's much more lucrative to come out and get a book deal and reality show.

Well, going back to the overall conspiracy idea where the illuminati might have the long term goal of blurring lines to create an androgynous population by using >manufactured< "stars" money would not be involved. They would just create people for certain goals. If you look at Miley Cirus, Lady Gaga or others that have been "produced" with big effect how hard would it be to include changing the gender if you controlled the person from the very beginning?

It's no secret that presidents are groomed, right? Why would it be different for certain people in the media?

[BMJ]

Posted by Akeron (here)
The question for me is how to check for myself -make up my own mind-

Well you could always use the Australian method.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=WHTPLpY8mBI

[AutumnW]

Akron, Those who conspire generally use forces that are taking shape within the society already and then shape them to their own ends. It would be too much work, otherwise. There was never an Illuminati gathered together with the specific purpose of genocide, through control of reproduction.

Elite conspirators aren't always successful, either. Look at what happened with LSD experiments created to produce mind controlled spies to help with warfare. LSD escaped the lab, ended up in the hands of boomers who created an anti-warfare movement.

[Akeron]

Let's try a different approach.

Please tell me who of these people you suspect, if any, might have been born male.

No cheating! Don't use the internet... just look at the pictures and listen to your gut.

[Ewan]

On the subject of male and female 'definitive shapes' lets not forget our good old friend the Bell Curve.

There is a great range of potential in the human body as pertains to shape, and at the extreme end of a Bell Curve it should be no surprise that it merges with the some part of the 'opposite' curve. (Where Male shape/Female shape are the two curves in point).

Furthermore if Jessica Alba is indeed a male I will have to re-categorise myself from heterosexual to bisexual, at least in my attractions if not in actual fact.

[BMJ]

A bit of synchronicity, I logged off to finish a Max Spiers video and look what he says at the 43.50 minute mark.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=JukclW5_IGU

[Shannon]

Posted by Akeron (here)
Let's try a different approach.

Please tell me who of these people you suspect, if any, might have been born male.

No cheating! Don't use the internet... just look at the pictures and listen to your gut.

All were bio men except maybe the last girl. ?

[Innocent Warrior]

All of them?

[Ewan]

Posted by Shannon (here)

Posted by Akeron (here)
Let's try a different approach.

Please tell me who of these people you suspect, if any, might have been born male.

No cheating! Don't use the internet... just look at the pictures and listen to your gut.

All were bio men except maybe the last girl. ?

I guessed male, female, male, female, male.

The Asian races produce some of the most convincing male to female transitions you will see imo, hence choice number 5.

[Shannon]

Posted by Ewan (here)

Posted by Shannon (here)

Posted by Akeron (here)
Let's try a different approach.

Please tell me who of these people you suspect, if any, might have been born male.

No cheating! Don't use the internet... just look at the pictures and listen to your gut.

All were bio men except maybe the last girl. ?

I guessed male, female, male, female, male.

The Asian races produce some of the most convincing male to female transitions you will see imo, hence choice number 5.

They really do, you're right. I'm guessing because of their smaller frame. I was looking for an Adam's apple and kinda sorta see one but I can't say for sure. The others I went on just instinct and knowing who the first lady is.

[Akeron]

Posted by Innocent Warrior (here)
All of them?

Correct ^^

[Akeron]

Wanna try again?

[Carmody]

Posted by Innocent Warrior (here)
Yes, it's number two, apologies for the slang.

I always thought he vacillates in people's description - between two and three.

[Carmody]

Posted by Akeron (here)

Posted by Shannon (here)
I don't think there's too many real transsexuals that are hiding now a days (in Hollywood that is) It's much more lucrative to come out and get a book deal and reality show.

Well, going back to the overall conspiracy idea where the illuminati might have the long term goal of blurring lines to create an androgynous population by using >manufactured< "stars" money would not be involved. They would just create people for certain goals. If you look at Miley Cirus, Lady Gaga or others that have been "produced" with big effect how hard would it be to include changing the gender if you controlled the person from the very beginning?

It's no secret that presidents are groomed, right? Why would it be different for certain people in the media?

Locally, I'm now seeing obvious transgenders hanging out at bus stops and street corners, cruising for tricks. I could not care one wit about such things. Do as you want, and if no one is harmed...and everyone has a good time -good for you. Knock yourself out. Just my thinking.

But forcing it on a very overt (in numbers) biological system that is in contrast, and doing so in an orchestrated concerted rush, with attached agenda.. is just pure adulterated horse**** that will bring all involved to harm... or to the intended intersection of harm and clandestine and then revealed response. (problem-reaction-solution, the game Pike was looking to play, in the related story...outlined as done in inches)


If we consider the simultaneous and parallel import of Islam into the given countries that are pushing the transgender agenda and associated issues of gender.. we find a MASSIVE injection of conditions that will incite blind anger and hatred in the injected Muslim population.

This is why there is no doubt whatsoever we are dealing with what is possible to describe as the 'third world conflict' as outlined in the stories associated with Albert Pike. I reserve judgement while witnessing it's comically accurate and perfected tracing of that data, thus, it is difficult to not take it seriously as a minimum in one's investigation. Meaning his story is not in the main file we sort through, but it is very much on the table of discovery along with the work one is dealing with, in this deciphering.

The conditions and scenarios (of life in the west) are being forced in an extreme catalytic state, where you mix the two ingredients that are volatile and are chemically reactive with one another. For example, Iron and aluminum. The finer you grind the particles, the more likely you will get an uncontrolled explosion in the mixing of the two...and a fire that cannot be extinguished. You can mix them all day in rough large particle form, but grind too fine..and... boom.

This transgender point is an extreme trigger for a parallel motion of importing an Muslim population. A stronger trigger of blind rage, for Muslims, may be difficult to find. (Five prayers a day, will psychologically and physiologically re-wire a person and put them under a strong hypnotic, and it even follows the recommendation for perfection in eating habits, it follows biology so closely. Probably why it was instituted, as it makes for an iron grip in life and mental formation/continuance)

It is an asymmetrical attack, the creation of pretext for total war, just outside of the notice of most minds.

remember, or re-state the argument:

- Holographic universe (new physics)
- organized information -- is the energy (ie, you)
- multidimensional (inclusive in the holographic and quantum models)
- we appear to very much be juniors in this 'universe' (open to manipulation)
- UFO's, other phenomena, and so on.
- psychic sensitivities as fact ...lending credence to all the above
- and much more

The question and answer set has Muslims, western secularism, transgenders, and bathrooms being a symptom, not a fundamental.

[Helene West]

Posted by Shannon (here)

Posted by Akeron (here)
Great blog post, it's about "that issue" and yet it's not. This mom describes a culture of fear as a result of strictly enforced political correctness. Now she's looking for security, an authority or consensus that would allow her to act differently in the future. Basically it's about fear... and authority. Do we ourselves decide what's right or wrong or look to outside sources for these answers?

Thanks for sharing it.

Exactly, a room full of "mama bears" went quiet out of fear. Fear of being called anything from homophobic to sexist to whatever the new anti or phobic label that's been created. I mean look, racism and homophobia absolutely exist just it rarely ever does in situations like hers. But the fear of being wrongly labeled as any of those things for throwing an obvious man out of a women's lavatory made these women second guess their instinct and ignore their loss of security and safety.

Is there an agenda from on high? Well, people's behaviors are being changed. I can't call it yet, and I doubt I even want to myself for the exact same reason. And that's what scares me.

Shannon
thank you for relaying that incident. I consider it inevitable. There will always be woman haters trying to intrude in our space if the opportunity presents itself but this particular hostile male was also socially astute. He sees how majorities everywhere are being silenced by aggressive minorities. Since the beginning of time endangering a newborn or small human or animal has always been met with ferocity by the mother. Even this normal human phenomena is being eradicated before our eyes. Not one mom spoke up - you could cry... The powers that be must be euphoric in their success of removing normal human reference points. A mom frightened of a male who knows he can claim Favored Nation Status, i.e, a transgendered minority - the moms know that the male faux-trans has BIG BROTHER on his side. Will we admit how bullied we are? And we can't depend on men to protect us anymore since so many women crave being men's bosses and demeaning them, what's in it for men these days to be traditional?

Has anyone heard about what is going on in the U.S. women's volleyball team? It's not a fave sport of mine but I perused an article that there was some big competition and the winner was - a transgender. Or in my book - a man, no matter what he says. And others on the team feel the same and the article was about - the Silence. Women resenting all the years of practice and work to be subjugated to a man coming in and stealing the show. They are stronger and have greater muscle and bone mass and power and that is going to win. But so many were afraid to speak up as they will be called some type of bigot. Now many women athletes are wondering if these trans are going to start taking over women's sports, they certainly have the advantage. If you had told me when I was younger that people would go along with all this contrived crap I never would have believed it, now not much shocks me but I wonder - if those with power are eradicating our age old reference points like a mother's protection of her young, a man's protection of women and children, what is it they want to transform us into?

[Ewan]

Posted by Helene West (here)

Posted by Shannon (here)

Posted by Akeron (here)
Great blog post, it's about "that issue" and yet it's not. This mom describes a culture of fear as a result of strictly enforced political correctness. Now she's looking for security, an authority or consensus that would allow her to act differently in the future. Basically it's about fear... and authority. Do we ourselves decide what's right or wrong or look to outside sources for these answers?

Thanks for sharing it.

Exactly, a room full of "mama bears" went quiet out of fear. Fear of being called anything from homophobic to sexist to whatever the new anti or phobic label that's been created. I mean look, racism and homophobia absolutely exist just it rarely ever does in situations like hers. But the fear of being wrongly labeled as any of those things for throwing an obvious man out of a women's lavatory made these women second guess their instinct and ignore their loss of security and safety.

Is there an agenda from on high? Well, people's behaviors are being changed. I can't call it yet, and I doubt I even want to myself for the exact same reason. And that's what scares me.

Shannon
thank you for relaying that incident. I consider it inevitable. There will always be woman haters trying to intrude in our space if the opportunity presents itself but this particular hostile male was also socially astute. He sees how majorities everywhere are being silenced by aggressive minorities. Since the beginning of time endangering a newborn or small human or animal has always been met with ferocity by the mother. Even this normal human phenomena is being eradicated before our eyes. Not one mom spoke up - you could cry... The powers that be must be euphoric in their success of removing normal human reference points. A mom frightened of a male who knows he can claim Favored Nation Status, i.e, a transgendered minority - the moms know that the male faux-trans has BIG BROTHER on his side. Will we admit how bullied we are? And we can't depend on men to protect us anymore since so many women crave being men's bosses and demeaning them, what's in it for men these days to be traditional?

Has anyone heard about what is going on in the U.S. women's volleyball team? It's not a fave sport of mine but I perused an article that there was some big competition and the winner was - a transgender. Or in my book - a man, no matter what he says. And others on the team feel the same and the article was about - the Silence. Women resenting all the years of practice and work to be subjugated to a man coming in and stealing the show. They are stronger and have greater muscle and bone mass and power and that is going to win. But so many were afraid to speak up as they will be called some type of bigot. Now many women athletes are wondering if these trans are going to start taking over women's sports, they certainly have the advantage. If you had told me when I was younger that people would go along with all this contrived crap I never would have believed it, now not much shocks me but I wonder - if those with power are eradicating our age old reference points like a mother's protection of her young, a man's protection of women and children, what is it they want to transform us into?

Slaves perhaps?

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/slavery/expe...r/history.html

https://muse.jhu.edu/article/448992

from the second link...

Scholars have suggested that rape can serve as a metaphor for enslavement-thus applying to both men and women who were enslaved. As Aliyah I. Abdur-Rahman argues, "The vulnerability of all enslaved black persons to nearly every conceivable violation produced a collective 'raped' subjectivity." The standard scholarly interpretation of how slavery affected black manhood is perhaps best captured by the comments of one former slave, Lewis Clarke, who declared that a slave "can't be a man" because he could not protect his female kin from being sexually assaulted by owners and overseers. Clark's concern, the rape and sexual assault of black women and girls, has been well documented by the historical record. Thelma Jennings and others have analyzed the literal sexual assault of enslaved women in a range of contexts. Physical sexual abuse of women and girls under slavery ranged from acts of punishment to expressions of desire and from forms of forced reproduction to systems of concubinage. Slavery violated the masculinity of black men who were denied the ability to protect vulnerable female dependents. According to Deborah Gray White, "Those who tried to protect their spouses were themselves abused." The emasculating psychic toll, White further argued, could have led men to eschew monogamy or resist marriage altogether.

The rape of Elizabeth Amwood reveals that black manhood under slavery was also violated in other ways that are less easily spoken of (then and now), namely, the sexual exploitation of enslaved men. The historical sexual assault of men and boys is well known, if mostly unarticulated. The scholarship on early America shows us numerous instances of rape and sexual assault of men and boys. Ramón Gutiérrez has argued that individuals of the Native American third sex, or berdaches, were frequently prisoners of war used for sex and emasculated. We also know through the handful of extant sodomy cases that males have been so abused. The seventeenth-century Connecticut gentleman Nicholas Sension, for example, sexually preyed on his male servants. Virtually all of the cases of sodomy that came to the courts in early America involved individuals violating status boundaries-instructors on students, masters on servants. None involved peers.

In the context of slavery, literary scholars have shown that sexual abuse of men was part of the Spanish slave system in Cuba. Robert Richmond Ellis argues that the account of former slave Juan Francisco Manzano "has commonly been regarded as a searing indictment of a physical mistreatment of slaves" but "can also be read as silent testimony to a kind of abuse largely unacknowledged by historians of slavery and critics of slave narratives: the sexual violation of male slaves." As Ellis points out, the topic has largely gone unexplored for a wide variety of reasons, including the obvious barrier of the historical record in that "male victims of slave rape left behind no biological record in the form of offspring" as well as the prevalent homophobia in traditional Latin American societies, which would have prevented men from telling their stories given that "male sexual passivity . . . was particularly stigmatized insofar as it was seen as entailing a loss of masculinity."

[Akeron]

Posted by Helene West (here)
And we can't depend on men to protect us anymore since so many women crave being men's bosses and demeaning them, what's in it for men these days to be traditional?

I believe to remember one of the very early Project Camelot videos where someone (Pete Peterson?) in a small remark on the side explained the long term plan of how to control the population. Back then I did not see how that could ever work out, but I hadn't been to the US yet either. I'm speaking from bad memory now, so I hope you'll forgive me if im off. Anyway - it kinda looked like this:

(1) Have women be "in charge" at home/boss men around
(2) Have them be very unhappy with themselves

What can I say. They really know what they are doing.

Posted by Helene West (here)
what is it they want to transform us into?

I ask with all respect: Who cares? Instead I would frame it like this: "What do we allow, as collective, before taking action?" This is much more empowering.

[Shannon]

Posted by Helene West (here)

Posted by Shannon (here)

Posted by Akeron (here)
Great blog post, it's about "that issue" and yet it's not. This mom describes a culture of fear as a result of strictly enforced political correctness. Now she's looking for security, an authority or consensus that would allow her to act differently in the future. Basically it's about fear... and authority. Do we ourselves decide what's right or wrong or look to outside sources for these answers?

Thanks for sharing it.

Exactly, a room full of "mama bears" went quiet out of fear. Fear of being called anything from homophobic to sexist to whatever the new anti or phobic label that's been created. I mean look, racism and homophobia absolutely exist just it rarely ever does in situations like hers. But the fear of being wrongly labeled as any of those things for throwing an obvious man out of a women's lavatory made these women second guess their instinct and ignore their loss of security and safety.

Is there an agenda from on high? Well, people's behaviors are being changed. I can't call it yet, and I doubt I even want to myself for the exact same reason. And that's what scares me.

Shannon
thank you for relaying that incident. I consider it inevitable. There will always be woman haters trying to intrude in our space if the opportunity presents itself but this particular hostile male was also socially astute. He sees how majorities everywhere are being silenced by aggressive minorities. Since the beginning of time endangering a newborn or small human or animal has always been met with ferocity by the mother. Even this normal human phenomena is being eradicated before our eyes. Not one mom spoke up - you could cry... The powers that be must be euphoric in their success of removing normal human reference points. A mom frightened of a male who knows he can claim Favored Nation Status, i.e, a transgendered minority - the moms know that the male faux-trans has BIG BROTHER on his side. Will we admit how bullied we are? And we can't depend on men to protect us anymore since so many women crave being men's bosses and demeaning them, what's in it for men these days to be traditional?

Has anyone heard about what is going on in the U.S. women's volleyball team? It's not a fave sport of mine but I perused an article that there was some big competition and the winner was - a transgender. Or in my book - a man, no matter what he says. And others on the team feel the same and the article was about - the Silence. Women resenting all the years of practice and work to be subjugated to a man coming in and stealing the show. They are stronger and have greater muscle and bone mass and power and that is going to win. But so many were afraid to speak up as they will be called some type of bigot. Now many women athletes are wondering if these trans are going to start taking over women's sports, they certainly have the advantage. If you had told me when I was younger that people would go along with all this contrived crap I never would have believed it, now not much shocks me but I wonder - if those with power are eradicating our age old reference points like a mother's protection of her young, a man's protection of women and children, what is it they want to transform us into?

You brought up great points, thank you Helene West....

Another issue to the trans woman on the volleyball team is trans men and men's sports. Think about wrestling and boxing or mixed martial arts... how can this be fair?
Well it's not. For anyone.

It's very frustrating because I'm not one to tell anybody how to live and love. But there is something going on here that just doesn't feel right.

[Akeron]

Posted by Shannon (here)
But there is something going on here that just doesn't feel right.

Right. It's just that issues need to get so far over the top and out of hand until people start seeing them... or caring about it... that we might simply go through that damped sinewave thing as posted by DeDukshyn.

When I grew up every woman demanded equality with such aggressiveness even though it very much appeared as if they already had all rights imaginable that I really didn't get what they were fighting for at times. Now fast forward ~20 years and we see where it lead. Now men want equality too, as women. I just stumbled over a little bit of irony here and had to giggle.