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    Default Re: Former Soros associate: Wilders and Le Pen elected, then chaos in the EU and global markets

    OMG, I was just starting to think the "right" was going to have to share voters and lose, when I realised that French politics is so proportional in the early stages of an election that everybody on the right left center and wherever are pushing through a crowd with their elbows flailing in a political riot.
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    Default Re: Former Soros associate: Wilders and Le Pen elected, then chaos in the EU and global markets

    Some astute observer (probably a mathematician and presumably British) of French people realized that when putting together twenty French citizen, one is not performing an addition but, rather, 20 divisions...

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    I wish such "résumé", that could be understood by most people with a high school degree, and a bit of efforts, could have been written for Americans to be read as well.

    It becomes so easy to understand what is going on in France when reading this article, even for foreigners like me. Everytimes I read American articles on their politics, it was so complicated and convoluted that it took a university degree to follow up.

    What I like in this article is that it is clearly named that EU is the puppet of bankers and corporations and that it is destroying the social tissue of basically every nation and rendering every individual of every nation much poorer on the whole, and forced to paralysis with an incredibly inneffective (but wanted to be) bureaucracy. My terms: 1984 - the novel - at its best.

    I do wonder if Americans would have read such an article if it were on their politics on the other hand. They became a rather emotional and irrational country on the whole - with low educational standards, which is waaay away from what they once were.
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    French presidential election 2017: Round 1 Live updates

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    First round of the French presidential elections in Lille, France on Apr. 23, 2017 © Depo Photos / Global Look Press


    The French are heading to the ballot boxes to cast their votes in a tight first round of their country’s presidential race.

    Preliminary results of the presidential election in France


    Electoral committee - Ifop - Ipsos

    Official data from the electoral committee (Constitutional Council)

    Votes, percent

    1 Marine Le Pen National Front 24,3

    2 Emmanuel Macron En Marche! (Forward!) 22,28

    3 Francois Fillon Republicans 19,6

    4 Jean-Luc Melenchon Unsubmissive France 18,16

    5 Benoit Hamon Socialist Party 5,8

    6 Nicolas Dupont-Aignan France Arise 5,26

    7 Jean Lassalle Resistons! 1,55

    8 Philippe Poutou New Anticapitalist Party 1,24

    9 Francois Asselineau Popular Republican Union (UPR) 0,86

    10 Nathalie Arthaud Worker's Struggle 0,76

    11 Jacques Cheminade Solidarity and Progress 0,19


    Latest update 23.04.17 21:46

    Check updates here: https://www.rt.com/news/385741-franc...-live-updates/
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    Default Re: Former Soros associate: Wilders and Le Pen elected, then chaos in the EU and global markets

    Quote Posted by Hervé (here)
    Votes, percent

    1 Marine Le Pen National Front 24,3

    2 Emmanuel Macron En Marche! (Forward!) 22,28
    This is not what we are getting either on TV or in the press: http://www.lemonde.fr/election-presi...1_4854003.html

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    Default Re: Former Soros associate: Wilders and Le Pen elected, then chaos in the EU and global markets

    on Google search neither, Macron is ahead

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    Votes, percent

    1 Marine Le Pen National Front 24,3

    2 Emmanuel Macron En Marche! (Forward!) 22,28
    This is not what we are getting either on TV or in the press: http://www.lemonde.fr/election-presi...1_4854003.html
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    Default Re: Former Soros associate: Wilders and Le Pen elected, then chaos in the EU and global markets

    BBC are trending towards Macron ( the Cabals insert) he doesn't even have a party so he will be relying on the power hungry hangers on to put themselves up for political selection , I find it hard to believe the French people are that stupid> so he should fail. He married his teacher who was married and had children, he worked for Rothschild in banking> need I say more. Look out France you have a Trecherous little git ready to do the cabals bidding.
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    Default Re: Former Soros associate: Wilders and Le Pen elected, then chaos in the EU and global markets

    Quote Posted by Flash (here)
    on Google search neither, Macron is ahead

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    Votes, percent

    1 Marine Le Pen National Front 24,3

    2 Emmanuel Macron En Marche! (Forward!) 22,28
    This is not what we are getting either on TV or in the press: http://www.lemonde.fr/election-presi...1_4854003.html
    The official results are always announced by the Ministry of the Interior, and by the minister in person http://www.interieur.gouv.fr/
    I don't know what this electoral council is supposed to be.

    Edit: 22.22 local time: Macron is making his 'victory' speech. Making all the right noises...
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    Check the updates here: https://www.rt.com/news/385741-franc...-live-updates/

    ... and compare with the other Tabs: "IFOP" and "IPSOS."

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    Liberté d'expression? RT, Ruptly crews blocked from Macron HQ despite press requests

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    RT and Ruptly were not allowed into the headquarters of French presidential candidate Emmanuel Macron, despite earlier being promised accreditation by his team.

    Producers from RT contacted Macron’s press team earlier in April and were promised accreditation for the evening of the first round of the French presidential elections. However, despite repeated requests accreditation was never received, with the Macron team merely saying, “They are still being processed.”

    And so on Sunday evening, neither RT nor the Ruptly film crew were allowed into the Macron campaign HQ, where there was a heavy security presence.

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    Security very high OUTSIDE Macron HQ, I say outside because we weren't allowed in, after sending countless requests in recent days and weeks


    9:06 AM - 23 Apr 2017
    Members of Macron’s campaign have repeatedly accused RT and Russian news agency Sputnik of spreading “fake news” and misinformation on behalf of the Kremlin. In March during an interview with Sky, Macron’s aide Mounir Mahjoubi accused RT and Sputnik of being the “first source of false information shared about our candidate” and working with “fascist organizations or extreme right news organizations.” And in February, the general secretary of Macron’s campaign, Richard Ferrand, accused the two Russian media outlets of “spreading [and] developing fake news” to allegedly “influence democratic life” in France.

    RT has adamantly denied these allegations as appalling and unfounded.
    “It seems that it has become acceptable to level such serious charges at RT without presenting any evidence to substantiate them, as well as to apply this ‘fake news’ label to any reporting that one might simply find unfavorable,” RT’s Press Office said in response to Ferrand’s remarks.
    Indeed, Macron’s campaign has referenced the channel so much that RT’s editor-in-chief Margarita Simonyan said it was “flattering that Macron’s team keep building their election campaign exclusively on lies about RT and Sputnik.”

    RT International and RT France are, over the next two days, reporting live on the French elections from an open studio located on the banks of the Seine at the foot of the Eiffel Tower. This coverage from the HQs of each of the key candidates (except, it seems Macron) as well as views and analysis of leading experts and politicians including members of the National Assembly and the presidential candidates themselves.

    Related:
    RT ‘flattered’ to be centerpiece of Macron’s French presidential campaign

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    Default Re: Former Soros associate: Wilders and Le Pen elected, then chaos in the EU and global markets

    Loc, you are absolute right. Soros is one of the worst bugs ever roam yhis earth, along with kissinger and many other obscure figures . Front seat? , hell yea ! we're about thave a hell of a ride my friend, buckle up! because we are getting speed downhill!

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    Establishment Shunts Establishment Puppet into the Élysée: More Warmongering To Follow

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    Trust me, I'm a banker...

    In his "victory" speech in the 1st round of the French presidential elections, Emmanuel Macron said he will represent all French people "in facing the threat of nationalists".

    Apparently being a French nationalist is now a hate crime.

    It is highly suspicious that Macron went through with most votes and will now likely win the Presidency on May 7th.

    Here's a 39 year old Rothschild banker who was virtually unknown less than one year ago, endorsed by Obama and NATO, never elected to public office, spent a couple of years as a shoe-in economy minister under Hollande where he proposed a 'labor' law that bears his name that hundreds of thousands protested against and had to be forced through by executive decree and with a manifesto slightly less bland than his personality.

    Hollande's presidency, under which Macron served, is probably the least popular in French history. And yet we're expected to believe that a majority of French voted for this guy??!

    Sounds like a rigged game to me.

    Yet despite the media already assuring everyone that Macron will easily take the laurels on May 7th, the game may not be over.

    Mélenchon (the uber lefty trotskyist nut job) who received about 20% of the vote had the role of drawing votes of the large number of those disgruntled with the system away from Le Pen. He did his job well. But now Mélenchon has to decide how to urge those who voted for him to vote for Macron. Those who voted for him did so largely out of severe distaste for an establishment dupe like Macron. To avoid exposing himself for the shill he is, Mélenchon has said he will not endorse either Le Pen or Macron but will instead ask his 450,000 party members to decide via his website.

    This is a sneaky move, because when he does endorse Macron, he can blame his party members. Nevertheless, his supporters may not be fooled and the result may be that they will turn to Le Pen as the only "anti-establishment" option. It's a long shot, I know, but remember Trump. In fact, a similar scenario played out in the USA last year, when Clinton screwed over Bernie Sanders to win the Democratic nomination. When Sanders then endorsed Clinton, many of his supporters, feeling betrayed, voted for Trump in protest.

    The other point of interest is the 1% of votes won by candidate François Asselineau.

    In the French regional elections in November 2015, with little to no mainstream media coverage and with only 12,000 members of his party (UPR), Asselineau received 190,000 votes, which worked out at 1% of the vote.

    Today, with 26,000 party members, a month of decent mainstream media coverage, 11 million views on his youtube channel and many rallies attended by thousands of people, his total votes increased to 300,000, which somehow works out to 0.8 %. Go figure. Voting is a murky business, hard to figure out. Open to being meddled with. Just ask the Russians.

    All in all, it's not looking good for France or the French people, all of whom would be well advised to prepare themselves. Postmodern, globalist, nihilistic, warmongering and REAL racism against Muslims everywhere (in the form of more bombing of Muslim nations) has installed itself fully in La République.

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    Quote Posted by Hervé (here)
    Sounds like a rigged game to me..
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    Default Re: Former Soros associate: Wilders and Le Pen elected, then chaos in the EU and global markets

    From Joe Quinn (post #115): ‘Mélenchon (the uber lefty trotskyist nut job)’ is not political analysis, it is the childish ranting of a far right-winger for whom lefty alone is an insult, but he still needs to pile on three extravagant epithets in order to make sure we got the message. Anyone who is genuinely working to release the elite stranglehold on power is going to side with the people, as human beings, putting the social in socialist and the communal in communist: not the same thing as setting one nation’s people against others (Le Pen).

    If you can accept for just a moment that there can be such a thing as an honest politician – i.e. imagine that there is something going on of which one could be a part – not endorsing the plastic ‘rigged game’ candidate Macron is not ‘a sneaky move’; it is the honest position to adopt when rejecting that candidate. That would contradict the notion that he ‘had the role of drawing votes of the large number of those disgruntled with the system away from Le Pen’. No, an honest man would not be playing a role, but ploughing his own furrow. Quinn cannot have it both ways by himself rejecting Macron in the severest terms and expecting Mélenchon to endorse him. He clearly does not understand how Mélenchon ticks, or Le Pen either.

    It seems to me that Mélenchon (who is no flash in the pan, having reached 18% intended votes a week before the 2012 election) has been doing the intellectual donkey work and pedagogically been doing more than anyone to wise voters up to what is going on in the world. http://www.huffingtonpost.fr/francoi...ef=fr-homepage Had the Socialists’ official candidate Hamon thrown his 6.5% vote behind Mélenchon in the first round instead of waiting for the second that never came, then Mélenchon could have won the run-off and addressed many of the issues that Macron won’t and Le Pen won’t. As he stated last night, the issues he campaigned on don’t suddenly disappear when someone else takes over. They certainly don’t, and we have Parliamentary elections coming up in June, so the fat lady may sing, but the show is definitely not over.

    Instead of insulting the man, let’s take a look at what he is actually saying. Below is a scan of his election manifesto delivered to all voters last Thursday. For non-French readers, I’ll translate some of the more salient points.

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    Quote I know your anger. I want to be its progressive, humanist mouthpiece.
    We must separate the Republic of lobbies that threaten the environment and our health, halt the almightiness of finance, abolish the presidential monarchy and the privileges of the cast that runs everything. This is the time to become a sovereign, independent people again, freed from the European treaties and warmongering military alliances.
    (...)
    SHARING THE WEALTH
    I will be the social president with a programme to eradicate poverty and unemployment. France has never been so rich in her history: we are the record-breaking country in Europe for the number of millionaires and for paying dividends to shareholders. But this wealth is shared out too unfairly. The people must claim back their share from finance.

    ECOLOGICAL PLANNING
    We will disengage from nuclear and carbon-based energy to reach 100% renewable energy by 2050.
    We will help farmers to put an end to chemical farming and factory farms: my government will organize 100% organic produce in collective restaurants [school canteens etc.] It will banish animal suffering.
    Ecological planning will be at the heart of economic activity (...) create most of the 3 million jobs that my programme allows.

    HUMAN PROGRESS FIRST
    I will be the president of human progress. Money must not determiner access to knowledge, culture and sport. (...)
    I will make schooling compulsory from 3 to 18. I will make school really free, including books...
    (...)
    EXITING THE EUROPEAN TREATIES
    I will be the president of a France unsubmitting in Europe and the world. She will free the French people and the people of Europe from the European treaties and free exchange agreements that oblige them to tear each other apart.
    (...)
    I will withdraw France’s signature on the free exchange agreement with Canada (CETA) and will oppose the one with the USA (TAFTA).
    FOR FRENCH INDEPENDENCE AND PEACE
    I will be the president of peace. I am worried at seeing war growing in the world and in Europe. We will leave NATO so as not to be caught up in US wars.
    We well build a new alliance of non-aligned countries, acting for peace and solely within the framework of the UNO.
    (...)
    I am of the people. This French people which is not indifferent to the fate of others, which does not accept poverty, discrimination, injustice. This people that respects the law, pays its taxes, behaves like good citizens. This people that has had enough of ‘affairs’ and ‘scandals’.
    Our collective intelligence can overcome all difficulties if we all place ourselves at the service of the common good. (..). I am ready; You are ready, I know.
    Mélenchon is Le Pen without the passive fear/hatred of foreigners and instead with reliance on an active, generous, intelligent (informed) population. The big difference then is that the people get to become cheerfully involved rather than submitting to an authoritarian regime, which is all that is left on offer. It is not an attractive to many who would rather not have to pull their weight.

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    Watching the news tonight, it is like the whole media is already celebrating the victory of Macron. It is astonishing to see the manipulation of the videos and and the way he is pictured. He is endorsed by EU as well and it is just crazy to see how much medias and politicians aloke are talking about him like he is already elected.... given that we still have to cast our votes again in a couple of weeks...
    The feeling of this election being rigged, I totally feel it.
    The vocabulary used to qualify Le Pen and her voters is also appalling. If somebody was on an agenda to create a break in society to justify any terribale actions against those voters, it would be no different. It is the whole ' us and them ' crap again. All while MAcron pretends to be the president of all the French people... seriously ?

    Am I the only French being appalled by the way this election is unfolding and the manipulation of videos and informations served by medias, political analysts and politicians and their official supporters and speakers ?
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    Default Re: Former Soros associate: Wilders and Le Pen elected, then chaos in the EU and global markets

    The ‘dédiabolisation’ of the FN under Marine Le Pen is designed to counter people with longer memories or who know their history. You have to go all the way back to World War II. When she stated recently that the Vél d’Hiv Jewish deportation atrocity was not the work of France, represented by De Gaulle in exile in London, but by individual members of the Vichy government, she is rewriting history. Her party has never been Gaullist, but is in fact an offshoot of the pro-Nazi collaborationist community.
    See this page and the whole site: http://www.gauchemip.org/spip.php?article15713

    There is no need for an elite plot to keep Le Pen out of power. She can muster 7 million votes to get her into the runoff, but not the 15 million needed to win. Why? The French people are still recovering from the defeat that led them to fight on both sides of that war, a civil war in effect. Le Pen’s position amounts to pretending to have changed sides. A forum like Avalon is aware that with Project Paperclip, the US effectively started fighting World War II over again having changed sides in the opposite direction. In other words America and the National Front have the commonality of being ostensibly anti-Nazi but actually pro-Nazi. Which is why the likes of Mélenchon can be very consistently against both the warmongering USA and the far right here in France.

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    Default Re: Former Soros associate: Wilders and Le Pen elected, then chaos in the EU and global markets

    Probably the reason why Marine (daughter) and Jean-Marie (father) are not talking to each other anymore as well as why the latter got kicked out of the active FN leadership. The ‘dédiabolisation’ might be a factual reflection of the actual change taking place, within the family/families as well as nationwide.

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