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    Default Re: Oroville Dam... (California, Spring 2017 - current)

    Bumping that last post:
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1147214
    and the one just before it:
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1147103
    .... as both contain LOTS of good, expert info about the dam and what's gone wrong.
    No fear porn here, but very worrying, nonetheless.
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    Oroville Dam spillway Yearly inspection bill proposed for all dams
    4/22/17
    (I'm sure we will be hearing more about this!)



    4/20/17 Oroville Dam Update : Disaster expert says spillway emergency ‘developed and propagated by DWR’

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    2 day NO RAIN Forecast --Unless frequency changes it
    4/21/2017 5:20 PM
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    Random thought for the day - the Oroville dam spillway could use some vortex generators, on its spillway, just where the relatively horizontal portion starts to slope more sharply downhill (which would be just above where the spillway failed.) This could keep the water flowing more smoothly down the more steeply sloped portion, and reduce the destructive turbulence that might have contributed to the failure.

    Here's a race car aerodynamics engineer explaining how vortex generators work for applications he's familiar with:


    If someone reading this has any idea who better to pass this idea along to, then go for it. Thanks!
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    I posted the link to your post on Blancolirio's and Tattoott1009's youtube pages, with a request that they let us know what they think.
    I will report back if they post anything on their youtube pages in reply.
    I think Juan Brown (Blancolirio) is connected enough with dam authorities that it would get someone's attention if he passes the info along.
    Or possibly he will know who to contact, at least.
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    Random thought for the day - the Oroville dam spillway could use some vortex generators, on its spillway, just where the relatively horizontal portion starts to slope more sharply downhill (which would be just above where the spillway failed.) This could keep the water flowing more smoothly down the more steeply sloped portion, and reduce the destructive turbulence that might have contributed to the failure.

    Here's a race car aerodynamics engineer explaining how vortex generators work for applications he's familiar with:


    If someone reading this has any idea who better to pass this idea along to, then go for it. Thanks!
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    Default Re: Oroville Dam... (California, Spring 2017 - current)

    They have vortex generators on the spillway - at the bottom, but none higher up, where the slope bends downhill:
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    Default Re: Oroville Dam... (California, Spring 2017 - current)

    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    I posted the link to your post on Blancolirio's and Tattoott1009's youtube pages, with a request that they let us know what they think.
    Excellent - thanks!
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    Quote Posted by onawah (here)
    I posted the link to your post on Blancolirio's ...
    Actually, Blancolirio would be an excellent person to consider this idea. Besides race cars and spillways (both as I have noted above), another common use for vortex generators is on airplane wings, which is likely something that Blancolirio would understand easily, as he's a long time professional pilot.
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    Default Re: Oroville Dam... (California, Spring 2017 - current)

    Woo hoo, Dynamite!!!

    Not what I would have blown


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    Oroville 24 April Update Reports are Out!
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    Oroville Dam UPDATE 4/25/2017 10:20 PM The Weather FORECAST Frequency Ring
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    Lawmakers grill CA water director on Lake Oroville emergency
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    Quote Published on Apr 25, 2017
    The head of California's water agency on Tuesday repeated his assertion that an emergency spillway at the Oroville Dam worked, drawing an incredulous response from a state lawmaker who represents tens of thousands of people ordered to evacuate when it was feared erosion at the spillway could lead to catastrophic flooding.
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    Default Re: Oroville Dam... (California, Spring 2017 - current)

    This is the webpage for official Dept. of Water Resources updates on Oroville and other locales in CA.:
    http://www.water.ca.gov/recent_news.cfm
    This is the link for the update for April 25:
    http://www.water.ca.gov/news/newsrel...ent_update.pdf
    This is their youtube page (but there's no video posted there as yet for April 25's update):
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    Default Re: Oroville Dam... (California, Spring 2017 - current)

    This one shows em blowing up a hillside, pretty cool...


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    Default Re: Oroville Dam... (California, Spring 2017 - current)

    OROVILLE DAM LEAK-- MAJOR LEAK AT DAM DETECTED

    It seems to be quite a revealing conversation, if you can make it out over the din of the running generator but I can't testify as to the veracity (there's still too much fear porn on youtube about the dam).
    Quote Paul Preston
    Published on Apr 25, 2017
    PAUL PRESTON and one of the nation’s leading dam expert Scott Cahill visit Oroville Dam. The visit revealed a major leak in the dam wall above the Hyatt Power Plant. The green area in the dam wall is very wet and is porting water from behind the dam. Sources close to Agenda 21 Radio went to the area on the dam and after an examination of the leak and the embankment material including vegetation speciation reported the leak is a major concern the Department of Water Resources is NOT reporting to the public and if not addressed could lead to catastrophic dam failure.
    Sound during the interview with Scott Cahill at the spillway is low due to technical difficulties. All references to water flows are expressed in cubic feet / second (csf).
    https://twitter.com/oroville_dam/stat...
    Scott Cahill Bio: http://www.agenda21radio.news/2017/03...
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    Oroville 26 April DWR Reports Explained
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    Published on Apr 26, 2017
    Quote A look at some of the details in the recently released DWR reports.
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    Director of DWR explains the current plans to fixing Oroville spillway
    Oroville Dam Update 4/25/17

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    Oroville Dam UPDATE 4/27/2017 6:35 PM The Weather FORECAST Frequency Ring New Drone Fly Over
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    Tattoo's on a rant because his original youtube page got taken down, so be prepared for that, though there is still good info in this video if you are patient.
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    Oroville Update 28 April "DWR Grilled in Gridley" - Dam Seep?
    blancolirio Published on Apr 29, 2017
    Quote The first in a series of public meetings with the DWR regarding the Oroville Spillway disaster.
    A look at some of the details in the recently released DWR reports.


    River Valve Outlet System (RVOS) at Oroville Dam Explained 4/29/17
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    Quote Published on Apr 29, 2017
    This video provides an overview of the River Valve Outlet System (RVOS) at the Oroville Dam. The River Valve Outlet System is one of four ways to remove water from the reservoir. The operation is accomplished via a system of tunnels, pipes, and valves. Credit for photos shown in this video goes to California Department of Water Resources publications as shown at the end of the video. To learn more about the removal of the baffle ring, go to Syblon Ried General Engineering Contractors' Web site at http://www.srco.com/index.php?id=85 .
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    Oroville Dam UPDATE 4/30/2017 7:23 AM The Weather FORECAST CA.FL. VIDME
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    ("Frequency rings" galore!)

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