'Flat Earth' Psychological Operations

[Omni]

Posted by MorningFox (here)
How do you explain that there isn't a single real image of the whole earth, let alone a live feed from orbit?

How do you explain that you can zoom in on the horizon and see things that should be invisible below the curvature of the earth?

These do have explanations actually... One reason they would not want to give any live feed from orbit, and maybe even a full picture of earth is there are secrets openly observable out in space. Like extraterrestrial presences, Nazi UFOs and the like... They can resourcefully package something with a true and deeper conspiracy explanation with a false conclusion. This is definitely something happening.

It may or may not be a psy-op but regardless has only opened my eyes further in the persuit of truth. Some of the flat earth theory assertions are ridiculous, but anyone who is unable to filter them out didn't really have much hope in the first place. This is less about the earth being flat than it is about questioning what we're told, and I think it helps with that. For me at least.

Alt media was well questioning what we were told before flat earth. And what this makes me think of is how the auto-hoax crowd has formed conveniently powerful after these flat earth operations. The auto-hoax crowd is just as bad for truth credibility as flat earth.

[Omni]

wtf? Is Trump a flat earther?

http://cnn.com.de/news/donald-trump-says-earth-flat/

Is CNN making this up or what? This article is a hit piece against the internet, and if Trump is not a flat earther him as well (not saying this is happening either way). It has predictive programming to formulate NLP/programming surrounding the premise of the internet. This promotes comments like "well it is the internet" when hardcore truth is being exposed...

You can expect more flat earther articles like this. Check these predictive programming quotes:

Posted by CNN
After declaring that the world is flat, Mr. Trump, as he has done before, again cited “the Internet” as his primary source of information.

Posted by CNN
The flat earth conspiracy theory, like most conspiracy theories, is propagated primarily via the Internet. Internet forums and YouTube channels are dedicated to “enlightening” the vast majority who, as truthers explain, naively buy into the “globe earth theory” that has been sold to them since birth.

An NLP hit piece on the word "truther" is embedded into that one.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Omnisense (here)
wtf? Is Trump a flat earther?

http://cnn.com.de/news/donald-trump-says-earth-flat/

Is CNN making this up or what?

CNN.com.de is nothing to do with CNN. It's a fake news site (a 'satirical' site ) made up to look like CNN.

[Clear Light]

Posted by Omnisense (here)
wtf? Is Trump a flat earther?

http://cnn.com.de/news/donald-trump-says-earth-flat/

Is CNN making this up or what? This article is a hit piece against the internet, and if Trump is not a flat earther him as well (not saying this is happening either way). It has predictive programming to formulate NLP/programming surrounding the premise of the internet. This promotes comments like "well it is the internet" when hardcore truth is being exposed...

From the "Contact Us" page of the above website cnn.com.de :

Thank you for contacting Carla’s Nice Nunnery (CNN) owned and operated by The Reverend Paul Horner!

[joeecho]

Pathetic Censorship.

[Omni]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by Omnisense (here)
wtf? Is Trump a flat earther?

http://cnn.com.de/news/donald-trump-says-earth-flat/

Is CNN making this up or what?

CNN.com.de is nothing to do with CNN. It's a fake news site (a 'satirical' site ) made up to look like CNN.

Thanks. I thought it was a domain like co.uk.

[Clear Light]

Posted by Clear Light (here)
Last edited by Bill Ryan; Today at 20:38.

Posted by joeecho (here)
Pathetic Censorship.

Oh ! Yes, so it seems Joeecho ... but in the interests of Diplomacy I'm going to describe it as "unnecessary" Censorship ... care to explain why Bill ? Although I suppose as the Membership Guidelines state :

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From Bill: Yes. Did not belong on this thread.

[MorningFox]

Hi Bill, are you not going to answer my questions or indeed respond to my reply at all?

Best
MF

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by MorningFox (here)
Hi Bill, are you not going to answer my questions or indeed respond to my reply at all?

Best
MF

Okay! (If I really have to )

Posted by MorningFox (here)

With all due respect it's surprising that you of all people, Bill, would suggest not even looking in to something. Personally I believe the best course of action is to make your own conclusions based on reviewing all possible information available to you. I don't see how one can get a true picture by only selectively taking in certain information. Truth is truth.

What on earth (pun not intended) makes you think I've not 'looked into it'? Of course I have — meaning, I'm totally aware of all the truths and falsehoods.

But it doesn't take very long. I've been studying astronomy and astrophysics since I was aged 12, when my mother would bring me books on cosmology from the local library for me to read after school. That's why I decided to major in Math.

[MorningFox]

I didn't suggest for a minute that you haven't looked in to it. I said I find it surprising that you'd try and persuade others not to look in to it and draw their own conclusions.

I did ask two questions regarding the total lack of images/live feed of a whole earth and objects on the horizon not disappearing behind the curvature. Do you not think those are worth discussing?

If you're able to explain those then I'm completely open to being corrected, but thus far no one seems to be able to and you seem to have conveniently ignored them.

Again I'm not suggesting these are proofs of a flat earth, I'm suggesting they are things worth discussing. I for one would not be aware of them if it weren't for the flat earth movement, regardless of how ridiculous it may or may not be.

[Bill Ryan]

Sigh!

Objects do disappear behind the horizon. Of course they do. Ask anyone who's ever been ocean sailing. (Or in a plane!)

Live feeds from space? Here's one. It took me 30 seconds to find the link.

• https://www.cosmosplus.com/live

If you want to know whether the Earth is round or flat, go channel Eratosthenes.

• https://khanacademy.org/partner-cont...enes-of-cyrene

2,200 years ago, he was a lot smarter than 95% (and almost certainly 99.999%) of people lazily and credulously watching YouTube in the modern era. He didn't need a live feed from anywhere to figure it all out. (All you really have to do is track the movements of the moon, sun and stars... and see what shape the shadow is during an eclipse.)

[Hervé]

Interesting...

When one applies what's left of their inquisitive skills and abilities to realizing that Earth cannot be flat... then said inquisitive skills and abilities are freed enough to also realize that "Flat Earth" is indeed a psy-op designed to mis/re-direct said inquisitive skills and abilities away from the shape of some kardashian's behind or the latest gossips around some star-of-the-day... and towards more important endeavors... like why the "establishment" is so insistent on running wars in the Middle East and funding terrorists there to keep the area in a very unstable state that's been the lot of Africa and is now spreading to Europe and Asia... or the unsavory cultural practice of - and benefits to - said "establishment" resulting from these wars?

Rome is burning but the "Romans" are more interested in what's happening in the "Arena" and which whistleblower is gonna be eaten first - alive or dead - by the wild beasts and trolls? Or who's gonna win: The Blue Avians or the Red/White Dragons?

Yep! "Divide and Conquer" people's attention so that neither pitchforks nor torches get a chance to come out.

[Rocky_Shorz]

It's the dang child prophet's fault in Russia...

People get close to him even after he passed at 11yo they get miraculously healed.

He gave incredible insight into fracking destroying water supplies, etc etc...

But then one day said the earth is flat, sitting on 3 pillars...

It is written in the Bible that way too.

The world we live in is round, unless it is all a holographs, we are really on a civilization relocation flight across the universe.

I'm not sure if it is psy op or a bunch of rich bastards making a $1 bet at the country club.

They fooled the public on climate change, why not flat earth...

Is the whole flat earth movement created just to tell the holy see, your God doesn't know everything, flat earth came from his wisdom...

Pretty elaborate hoax for all of us to hear and shrug.

Since fisherman didn't read or write, they had to find someone that could write the story and forgot to check what kind of mushrooms were in his oatmeal each morning...

Not a big deal as long as that's the only trip out moment we are questioning...

[MorningFox]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Sigh!

Objects do disappear behind the horizon. Of course they do. Ask anyone who's ever been ocean sailing. (Or in a plane!)

Live feeds from space? Here's one. It took me 30 seconds to find the link.

• https://www.cosmosplus.com/live

If you want to know whether the Earth is round or flat, go channel Eratosthenes.

• https://khanacademy.org/partner-cont...enes-of-cyrene

2,200 years ago, he was a lot smarter than 95% (and almost certainly 99.999%) of people lazily and credulously watching YouTube in the modern era. He didn't need a live feed from anywhere to figure it all out. (All you really have to do is track the movements of the moon, sun and stars... and see what shape the shadow is during an eclipse.)

Well once again you've either misread or simply misunderstood my response. You haven't shown me an image or live feed of the whole earth. And to say 'ask anyone who's been at sea' isn't exactly a solid argument... Of course objects dissappear to the naked eye but there are countless videos and photographs with zoom lenses showing objects brought back in to view at certain distances that mathematically should not be possible to do so. The member I quoted above said he's done this experiment himself.

I also started multiple times that I don't doubt the earth is round, however the flat earth theory raises some points worth discussing.

The fact you've rudely and arrogantly 'sighed' at my perfectly respectful, reasonable and rational response while providing no evidence whatsoever to answer my two questions, suggests we should probably end our correspondence here.

Best
Oriens

[Humanbean]

Posted by MorningFox (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
Sigh!

Objects do disappear behind the horizon. Of course they do. Ask anyone who's ever been ocean sailing. (Or in a plane!)

Live feeds from space? Here's one. It took me 30 seconds to find the link.

• https://www.cosmosplus.com/live

If you want to know whether the Earth is round or flat, go channel Eratosthenes.

• https://khanacademy.org/partner-cont...enes-of-cyrene

2,200 years ago, he was a lot smarter than 95% (and almost certainly 99.999%) of people lazily and credulously watching YouTube in the modern era. He didn't need a live feed from anywhere to figure it all out. (All you really have to do is track the movements of the moon, sun and stars... and see what shape the shadow is during an eclipse.)

Well once again you've either misread or simply misunderstood my response. You haven't shown me an image or live feed of the whole earth. And to say 'ask anyone who's been at sea' isn't a solid argument... Of course objects dissappear to the naked eye but there are countless videos and photographs with zoom lenses showing objects still visible at certain distances when mathematically they should be hidden below the curve.

The fact you've rudely and arrogantly 'sighed' at my perfectly respectful, reasonable and rational response while providing no evidence whatsoever to defend your points, suggests we should probably end our correspondence here.

I think MorningFox has a point here, I have been as deep into the flat earth rabbit hole as it's comfortable to be and have emerged in the sure knowledge that the earth is not flat, but through all that time I kept an open mind as there are some anomalies and omissions that were of interest to me. At no time did I get the impression MorningFox was suggesting that objects did not disappear below the horizon, but that they appear to regularly defy the curvature of the earth equation and are consistently visable at greater distances than that eqaution would stipulate. And yes, the apparant omission of on board cameras on deep space vehicles; how hard would it be to stick a rear facing 100 megapixel camera on these craft. We should be inundated by non-composite images of earth from a distance, it would be good business if nothing else, but we are not, why? Because the earth is flat? No. But why? UFO's the SSP? I don't know, but the question hadn't arisen in my mind until I decided to look into what these flat earth "nutters" were going on about. Also, if this is a psy-op, which on the balance of probability it is, then why haven't they played the card? I haven't heard the "alt right" being labled as flatearthers by the mainstream media much at all. They could have killed Trump by assosiation with that, but as far as I can see, no one is being vilified as a literal "flat earther" in the mainstream press, they have kept their powder pretty dry for a psy-op, question is, why?

[Atlas]

The Earth is flat in a sense because we all live on the surface. (so that it's flat under our feet)

ALERT to the Surface Dwellers!

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZIyO7t4vnTA

[Hervé]

Posted by Humanbean (here)
[...]
... objects did not disappear below the horizon, but that they appear to regularly defy the curvature of the earth equation and are consistently visable at greater distances than that eqaution would stipulate....
[...]

... because neither basic geometry nor mathematics can solve problems due to atmospheric optics of refraction/reflection due to [curved] atmospheric layering of varying density and therefore varying refractive indices... mirages kind of optical phenomena.

... you know... the Psy-op angle...

[Rocky_Shorz]

That was something that caught me by surprise, out fishing the island would appear 15-20 miles out, on a Cruise ship, the Island would appear from 40-50 miles out... an old salt I used to meet out fishing mention a crows nest added 10 miles to vision for the ship.

A flat earth, light would be on or off for half a planet at a time, no timezones...

If you went to the edge of the flat earth and fell forward would you hit the other side?

I've been around the world searching for bars on the edge, and damn if I don't hit ground every time I fall on my face.

Splane that one Lucy...

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by MorningFox (here)
...suggests we should probably end our correspondence here.

I agree.

Your logic kind of confuses me. You say that you 'don't doubt' that the pink elephant in the corner of the room doesn't exist, but you say you still want to 'discuss' it. (Huh?)

...

...again, please. This thread is about the psy-op (one of two threads on that topic). It's not to present a critique of evidence.

I won't spend any more of my time debating the pink elephant, except to discuss what kind of projected 'hologram' it may be, and who's doing the 'projecting' — and why.

If you're in doubt about anything at all that every other forum member knows is real, please go elsewhere and come back when you've figured it out. Compared with what's important (and real) in the world, debating this particular phantom elephant is a monumental waste of time.

[MorningFox]

You still completely miss the point that the anomalies I mentioned are worth discussing, not the earth being flat. The flat earth theory is what highlights these and begs more questions about our reality. I thought we're all looking for the truth here? For someone like you to suggest not even looking in to that is simply bonkers.

I was on topic in that I was suggesting that a psy-op that highlights more inconsistencies in the lies we're being fed, while having some very obvious non-truths that anyone with a basic IQ can debunk, doesn't seem like a particularly impactful psy-op to me. It's far more likely that there are so many people on the earth investigating this reality that sometimes there will be theories coming up that are incorrect. In my opinion no one should ever tell someone not to look in to something to draw their own conclusions.

I'll leave this thread now.

Best