The Truth about Corey Goode

[Chester]

Posted by Flash (here)
This below describes a temp agency. He worked for a temp placement agency. Which are the ones who would send you a guy with no certifications but for whatever reason may be a clearance. Temp agency was my first job after earning a degree. Most agents do not even have a degree, they are young and would not care about certifications as long as they believe he can do the job. He may had told the agents he could

Hi Flash, I can imagine a temp agency along the way, but is it common for someone who may at some point get work through a temp agency do so for twenty years? Don't people usually catch on somewhere and at least last long enough to start developing some sort of direct job acquisition history or... perhaps reaches a point of realization they may best look for a different type of career?

[Honesty]

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[norman]

Posted by iAMWE (here)
Hang around long enough and remain engaged, and one finds who the bad apples are...Corey Goode is one of them. Steven Greer is another. Wilcock is an egomaniac. Kerry Cassidy means well. The frustrating part is how unable virtually all of them are at working well as a team with other public figures. Bill Ryan is honest and sincere. So is Miriam Delicado. About half of Wilcock's latest book was about himself, starting in Chapter 2...an accurate reflection of the type of person he is. Linda Moulton Howe and Jim Marrs - nothing but positive things to say about them. What I find interesting is that out of all the UFOlogists listed on the Wiki site (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ufologists), Richard Dolan was not listed...he does seem to focus more on the material than himself. I like that a lot.

https://www.richarddolanpress.com/uf...n-the-trump-er - plug for Dolan's latest book...fairly priced. I am buying a copy now.

So yes, when money is involved, it's tough to sift the wheat from the chaff...it takes time to complete that process.

I've been quite a "fan" of Linda Moulton Howe for many years but I've noticed that she HAS been getting caught up in the disclosure mania recently and making lots of references to the Corey Goode and William Tompkins 'material' as the indication that something big is about to change in UFOlogy.

Having been working away so hard for so long I can quite understand how tempting it is to believe that it's all coming to fruition at last. It might be, for all I know, but Linda will be dropping her standards if she goes on like this. The first time I heard her mention Corey Goode I was quite surprised. I've heard her mention him several times since and it's poor journalism that I wouldn't normally associate with her.

Apparently Linda Moulton Howe is now in the GAIA TV stable too. This, also, is disappointing.

[Flash]

Yes it is common if they aren't that good lolllll or have caractere flaws

Posted by Sam Hunter (here)

Posted by Flash (here)
This below describes a temp agency. He worked for a temp placement agency. Which are the ones who would send you a guy with no certifications but for whatever reason may be a clearance. Temp agency was my first job after earning a degree. Most agents do not even have a degree, they are young and would not care about certifications as long as they believe he can do the job. He may had told the agents he could

Hi Flash, I can imagine a temp agency along the way, but is it common for someone who may at some point get work through a temp agency do so for twenty years? Don't people usually catch on somewhere and at least last long enough to start developing some sort of direct job acquisition history or... perhaps reaches a point of realization they may best look for a different type of career?

[Bayareamom]

I'll make one last comment, which I think needs to be said: I've said time and time again to my husband that I truly feel one of the issues w/this particular movement is that too many researchers are trying to make a living off their research. To ME, the moment $$ enters the picture, it taints you. Bias/ego become much more extreme when one's living becomes dependent on his/her relevancy in this field (or in any other field when research and $$ collide). The same thing holds true for earning an income off of psi abilities; using one's gifts (there are those who have true gifts in this area) to help others, but requiring a fee in order to do so. I have never believed in using one's gifts of this type as a way to earn a living. It taints the process completely. It eliminates the use of discernment, not to mention the plethora of issues attached, as well.

I would much rather see a researcher acquire even just a part-time job, so that his/her research isn't completely usurped by the need to earn a living off said research. The ability to use one's discernment gets so entirely muddled when one is dependent on staying relevant - this has always been an issue for me, even within the medical research/vaccine issues research of which I've also been involved (but never to earn an income).

I do understand the passion these researchers have in this field, but the issue I have w/so many of them is that they are using this research while trying to stay relevant, credible, unbiased, etc. I don't think it's easy to do that when your livelihood depends on staying RELEVANT.

Even some of the most decent and honorable researchers can get easily entangled in this quagmire if they're not careful.

One of my favorite researchers in this field, was the late Dr. Karla Turner. She stated during one of her lectures that if any of her fellow researchers wanted CREDIBILITY in this field, her advice was to get out. She stated (I'm paraphrasing here) that because of the nuances of this entire phenomenon, it is impractical to expect any one researcher to gain complete credibility (I'm assuming she meant within mainstream followers, as well as in this field).

I don't recall precisely what she said along those lines, but that's the gist.

I would hope that most, if not all those of whom enter into this type of research do so w/o expecting anything in return. The desire for TRUTH should be, first and foremost, the desired goal - NOT credibility necessarily, NOT fame, NOT financial security/wealth.

I had an interesting email exchange w/a fairly prominent researcher in this field. She said to me at one point that she just wanted credit for her work. That as an academic, she felt that receiving due credit for her work was important to her. I responded by stating that although I understood her issues with receiving due credit for one's work, I replied (politely) that it was a shame that 'credit' was more important to her than the TRUTH. This conversation had followed an ongoing dialogue between the two of us as to the issue I had put forth about the sharing of information/resource materials by all of the researchers in this genre. I told her that the truth would most definitely be revealed as to this phenomenon (at least for the most part) if all the researchers could simply gather around, share their wealth of material, knowledge, etc., and see what they come up with.

I have been told by more than a few researchers in this movement that this sharing of information will just never happen, and most of them admit that it's probably because of the ego driven desires of most of these researchers.

What a shame.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Bayareamom (here)
One of my favorite researchers in this field, was the late Dr. Karla Turner. She stated during one of her lectures that if any of her fellow researchers wanted CREDIBILITY in this field, her advice was to get out. She stated (I'm paraphrasing here) that because of the nuances of this entire phenomenon, it is impractical to expect any one researcher to gain complete credibility (I'm assuming she meant within mainstream followers, as well as in this field).

I don't recall precisely what she said along those lines, but that's the gist.

It's from the interview Karla did with Melinda Leslie, on 7 May, 1995. The transcript is on this page:

• http://www.galaksija.info/forum/viewtopic.php?t=796

What she said:

• Dr Karla Turner: If you want credibility, get out of this field. You can’t have both!

[Bayareamom]

Right, Bill. That's what she said. I really admired Dr. Turner. She was so refreshingly honest, not to mention intelligent and wise. She didn't have all the answers, but her transparency and the truth in what she said, really stood out for me.

Thanks for that transcript. Every now and then, I take a look back and watch her videos w/renewed interest. I wish I had been able to see her speak in person.

[Ernie Nemeth]

Goode is such a creative yarn spinner, he could turn an encounter with penguins into an abduction by the 'Black and White Avians.'

I think he dreams in Technicolor so blue is apropos.

[iota]

Dear Forum members, this is my first time to post on this forum as I am a new member. In the few decades that I have worked in service to our planet, though i read various platforms daily, this is the first time I felt compelled to take action to actually join a Forum/ I was prompted to join this forum for the specific purpose of responding to Ms Cassidy. For this to occur as IMPERATIVE, it seemed important. So I will begin:

RE:

Posted by Kerry Cassidy (here)
Bill and forum members,

I have read Bill's statement regarding Corey Goode and some of the problems with his testimony and dealings with others that seem to indicate that he has not been honest with the public and that his story may also be at least partially fabricated or simply an implanted memory. I don’t see any point in attacking him however and will not do so."

I, too read Bill's statements from beginning through page 10, stopping after your comment to initiate action to join this forum. And NOWHERE did I find ANYTHING to constitute or warrant your assertion of "attack". If there is something I missed, I ask, that you be specific as to what passage you are referring to, as from my viewpoint, it is NON existent.

What I understood is that Mr. Ryan had QUESTIONS and an actual basis TO question the veracity, integrity and validity of the information presented by Mr. Goode and though he did NOT enter Mr. Wilcock into question, by sheer closeness of association, I would find it extremely incredulous that Mr. Wilcock, who appears to be an intelligent human being, would be COMPLETELY UNaware and privy to much, much more detail than any of us, and if the dubious points in question are in fact true? I would find it impossible to not assert his complicity.

I am not going to go into the interactions I have had with Corey in the very early days (a few years ago) when he contacted me asking if I would interview him. But I will say that while Bill Ryan has every right to make public his own views and research about Corey and his claims, he does not have the right to make statements on my behalf and without my permission about what he assumes I think or what I have told him in confidence.

Again, correct me if I am wrong by specifically citing the text that somehow i missed, but where exactly were the "statements" on YOUR behalf made? ... OR "assumptions" as to what you think?

The only assertion that I recall, and you must forgive that I'm writing this very tired, wishing to be in bed asleep instead but for some unfathomable reason the Universe seems to insist on compelling me to complete this task before i will be granted sleep. (MY occurring as to my assertion on the Universe, NOT a fact, may i clarify ... it just does, in fact, occur that way to me)

As i was stating, the only recall I have of you even being mentioned is in statement of fact ... that being that you NEVER interviewed Mr. Goode. A fact I believe that YOU, yourself corroborated. The fact that he found it interesting, perhaps "telling", i do believe IS his prerogative TO find interesting or "telling". I find it so as well.

Though i generally formulate my own opinions and do NOT rely on others to formulate them for me, I pray you will forgive me for reserving my RIGHT to exercise the SAME prerogative and therefore "think" as i choose and say so.

There are many people in this sector who are highly suspect and many people who are telling the truth as they see it and still many more with implanted or false memories. There are people who are playing to the audience and lying outright with full knowledge that they are doing so. There are agents, assets who are in essence working for intelligence agents and paid trolls as well as unbalanced and unprincipled people as well.

Some whistleblowers may be telling the truth and others, motivated by a myriad of human failings, may be lying or combining the two in order to save their own lives and still get the truth out. While I am sorry that Rich Dolan and Bill Ryan find whistleblowers to be ‘unreliable’ and that Farrell and Fitts prefer “research and documentation” I have to say that this in no way addresses the true value of whistleblower testimony.

NOW we get to the heart and VERY reason for my compulsion TO respond. I have spent EVERY day of my life expanding MY energy, time and focus to attempt to awaken out of organized and intentional social programming and the VERY first step is to get them TO QUESTION instead of blindly accepting the deceitful programming that they are subjected to accepting in just about EVERY facet of their life. It is an arduous task. One that takes a certain amount of courage, as it is not for the faint of heart. It is only undertaken out of the deepest love for humanity and reacquires an inordinate amount of energy AND authentic commitment as the results are hard won and without a true calling one would easily "give up" falling into resignation at the prospect.

So, i hope you will understand my complete dismay at ANY action that would revert ANY amount of forward movement in that area ... Getting people to even SEE the "need" TO question instead of "blind acceptance" is a difficult task, in and of itself. It is followed by attempting to "see" that it is their RIGHT TO question.

Therefore, having someone who has the actual courage and wherewithal to DO it and see THAT specific endeavor challenged completely undermines a MAJOR foundation of what i (and countless others) have worked SO earnestly to achieve. It is a definitive step BACKwards.

WHY is this NECESSARY TO question? ... i would refer you to your own words above .... i believe them to be self explanatory requiring NO further elaboration on my part.

Whistleblowers are, in my view, in a world of lies and secrecy, our lifeline to what is really going on. And many whistleblowers (who are very human with human idiosyncrasies and failings) are risking their lives and many have been killed for their attempts to get the truth to humanity. At least 2 Camelot whistleblowers have been killed and possibly more. Several have been silenced. Some have simply gone back to work for the secret space program or black projects. Others, like Norm Bergrun have disappeared and presumably gone back to work for them. Others have had family members die mysteriously or suddenly and the list goes on. Whistleblowing is clearly not good for your health. But it is vital.

I could NOT possibly agree more. I do not believe I read a SINGLE word from Mr. Ryan in dissent either or my reply would have likely included him as well. ... therefore i fail to see your point or need to state so. Unless you are willing to state, in fact, unequivocal belief that Mr. Goode or Mr. Wilcock are credible whistleblowers with impunity in integrity. Please forgive me once again, if I am remiss as i have stated i'm tired, but i did NOT read that in your response.

If i may, I would invite you therefore to consider Mr. Ryan acting in THAT specific capacity ~ a Whistleblower.

because, he in fact, IS seriously attempting to bring to light information that he has which has given him serious doubt as to the veracity and legitimacy or integrity of Mr. Goode (Mr. Ryan, please forgive me if I am incorrect and feel free to clarify if MY understanding is remiss)

AS such, and given his position in our community and the world at large ... IF that is what he TRULY feels, i submit to you and to the WHOLE world, as it may, that he would be SORELY remiss and highly irresponsible from a moral standpoint ,to be privy to information that gives him pause and keep that to himself ...

particularly while he is KEENLY aware of the level of impact and influence that these two gentlemen are having on a wide audience ... i can ONLY pray that NONE of the people that i have personally led to a higher level of awareness are included and either way ... if later, i were to have found out that Mr. Ryan had questions and cause TO question but chose NOT to ... i'm afraid i would have to take serious exception to THAT.

To attack as unreliable whistleblower testimony is the same thing as attacking all HUMAN testimony. Yes humans can be manipulated and deceived and have diabolical aims but they can also be dedicated and truthful and sacrifice their own lives for their fellow man (or woman). Making a blanket statement about “whistleblower” testimony is no more meaningful than to say all politicians lie and all judges and juries are deluded and misled.

Oh Ms Cassidy, again, why are you asserting "attack"? There seems to be a prevalence in human nature that by simple assertion of something "being so" ... it makes it that in fact. I just had an ENTIRE conversation with someone on this topic.

my friend had asked me if i could not just "see this as little flaw as part of their charming imperfection" (and i quote) here was my response to her and to you ...

It isn't (name withheld) . There isn't anything even remotely charming about it. Its the ugliness of the ego and demanding compliance of agreement that "what is so"... Is " something else"..

and the reality of it is that indulging it is a harmful practice that serves NO ONE, least of all them.

It is tantamount to outright enabling --- like one enables a drug addict. Its wrong! ...

The time for that has long passed. We are in a time to be FULLY accountable for the impact we have on others and to hold those around us accountable as well. Failure to do that has led to untold AND needless.. Useless.. Suffering... Its not a funny NOR a cute practice to enable that at ALL ..

It's much harder (because it takes conviction, courage and commitment) to hold and live to that higher standard but that is exactly what Life calls forth AS "requirement" no less...

The failure to rise to that will ALWAYS have detrimental repercussions for BOTH parties. ...

"Going along"? placating? silent compliance? are ALL undeniable reinforcements of negative behaviors .. calling it anything else doesn't change that ....

AND though it may "look" or "feel" nicer? It is NOT "nice" at all, but actually quite UNloving instead.... It IS promulgation of illusions (lies actually) and delusional instead of reality and truth.

The liberation and empowerment of mankind I have devoted my life to make possible is NOT possible while that continues. In fact becomes flat out impossible. Just on that point specifically...

I, for one, will NOT be someone people can count on to "go along" with saying OR convincing themselves and others that they are "only" doing "X" when they are in fact, doing something else..its fundamentally lying you know?"

THAT was my response to her and to you and the reasons i have for my stance.

Whistleblowers are like those in any other walk of life. Some are truthful and some are not. Some believe what they tell people and some lie with impunity.

As an investigative journalist, documentary filmmaker specializing in whistleblower testimony for over 11 years I can say that there are many ways to tell if a person is lying. Investigating their claims is one of them. Cross-correlating testimony is another. Facial reads and behavioral “tells” often reveal an attempt to deceive consciously. Or unconsciously. And so on… My point is that it is up to us to do the work necessary to tell truth from falsity.

Again, Ms. Cassidy, i could NOT possibly agree more ... It happens to be PRECISELY what I understood Mr. Ryan TO be doing ... and therefore, I'm at a complete loss as to WHY, if you truly have that understanding, you did NOT fully support him in doing so?

Considering that humans are the predominant species on this planet albeit with mixed heredity and DNA from many other species it is important to recognize that the consensus reality or Matrix we live in is geared to make humans suspect each other before they look to other races such as Reptilians, whose influence over the Illuminati thought forms is extensive. It is part of the Controllers agenda to get humans to see each other as the enemy first!

WHAT? again, we go back to the fact that CALLING "X" > "Y" does NOT, in fact, make it so.

the controller's agenda as i understand it, IS to "divide and conquer" ... well, one of them anyway.

What Mr. Ryan was doing is (as i interpreted, please feel free to correct Mr Ryan) exercising his prerogative TO question, acting morally responsible in NOT remaining silent and therefore acting in capacity AS model AND whistleblower.

Again, i submit, that i found NO attack present in his words, and mere challenge of what has been publicly presented to large segments of the population is not only well within the rights of ANY of us, particularly in HIS capacity i would go further as to deem it morally responsible.

Documents are notoriously unreliable. We all know that documentation can be faked (like the birth certificates of Presidents) as well as photos and videos (see the Kennedy assassination altered Zapruder film and my interview with Mike Sparks and James Fetzer re Zapruder Film New Evidence) and of course there’s 911 (tv images of planes appearing to hit the twin towers) and so on. I often find it interesting and puzzling that humans will believe a piece of paper or a film or the TV but suspect another human as lying when humans are the ones creating the film and documents in the first place!

College or university educations, degrees and so-called authority figures are all suspect and no guarantee you are getting the truth. Titles and large salaries are no proof of anything other than perhaps of the Controller’s approval or backing of someone… Wall Street is full of people who lie for a living and make money deceiving the public as we know.

Again, I agree completely Ms. Cassidy and therefore it simply logically explained the outright NEED for questions and establishment of fact and veracity that as you have clearly stated CAN be manipulated.

My point is that we humans have been taught to first believe outside authorities, documents, organizations and people with money and in the top echelons of power before we believe each other. We are told from birth to follow rules and regulations that are supposedly “good for us” drafted by those in positions of power when time and again we find we have been lied to and misled for an agenda most people have no awareness of.

Ms. Cassidy, at the risk of sounding redundant, i agree. However, i will go further to say THAT was MY point. Asserting the RIGHT and even responsibility TO question and NOT to teach others NOT to do that or challenge those courageous enough to do it.

I do however think it is important for people to weigh the evidence and quality of the testimony we are given and use our hearts and minds to see what resonates and what does not. I firmly believe humans are psychic and precogs by nature and that we can discern the truth where we find it. And as I have said many times, the truth is not served in this reality anyway, on a silver platter. It is up to us to learn to exercise discernment as we journey on our path. And life is an exploration of consciousness.

to this ditto what i stated above ...

in closing, i would like to offer a mild explanation that my son just passed away (Mar 2) i will always believe and have cause to believe that irrespective of details, there was an intention to subvert and attack me and my work specifically. Whether or not that is in fact so, i have paid my due diligence and showed my commitment in spite of great motivation to slip away in silence ... and having paid many a high price, as well as having proven my commitment and love in service to others i believe entitles me to have equal vocalization in a matter that can have an impact on what i personally endeavor to do.

i merely, shared that to apologize and give you an understanding of where i am coming from in respect to my tone. prior to march, it is likely i would have been much more diligent and perhaps NOT so forthright. but my son is dead. i have NO more time to play games or appease. there is work to be done. many, many including most here have ALL done their part to move the consciousness forward

we canNOT allow step backwards to take place.

this was by no means an invitation to, nor intended to debate. my point i believe is a statement of fact, and as such indisputable. in case, it is not clear, i will reiterate

1.) It IS our Divine Sovereign RIGHT TO question ~ period ~

and i would, in fact, go further as to state

2.) Not only is it our RIGHT, but our "Responsibility" TO do so

Ms Cassidy, herself, has outlined just some of the relevant reasons WHY this is an actual NECESSITY.

i suppose this is what i have been hearing amongst "Lightworker" sites about "division amongst each other"

i do NOT relish digging them out now to explain ALL that i have explained above .. .at least i hope to get some sleep before i feel called to do so ...

I would also like to assert that i do NOT personally know Mr. Ryan, i have NEVER communicated with him at ALL, except today on the welcome post to thank for being allowed to join. And my statements are VERY much MY own.
and in NO way, did i intend to speak FOR him, but rather present MY understanding of WHAT he presented and am open to correction ~ that is, if i'm allowed to STAY a member after this .. .lol!

namaste all

and thank you Ms. Cassidy for the work you HAVE done to bring so much to light and forward and hope you will seriously consider doing the same with THIS as well ...

KERRY CASSIDY
PROJECT CAMELOT
http://projectcamelotportal.com
May 1, 2017

[Mike]

hi iota, welcome to the forum!

nice post there!

look, i'm not a kerry fan. i'd really like to unleash some thoughts here.....the only thing keeping me from really letting it rip is my respect for Bill.

but i will say this: it's not too complex. whenever there is some noise on avalon, or whenever we're getting attention here, Kerry will find some nonsensical reason to inject herself into it for a little shameless attention. she'll find some reason to associate herself with the action. thats what she did here. thats all there is to it. notice she'll rarely follow up. thats very telling.

[iota]

Thanks so much Mike!

i'm generally a fan of just about everyone and definitely anyone attempting to raise the consciousness of the populace ... i'm NOT a fan of those attempting to cause deception or of leaders voicing opposition when someone is genuinely attempting to bring information to light ...

i have NEVER intuitively trusted Wilcock or Goode and was frankly amazed and appalled at the large mass of followers, and i was concerned on their behalf ... but no solid cause behind that.

so i was grateful that Bill opened up and shared the information he had ... he presented it FOR evaluation as far as i understood, and i sort of pride myself IN my ability TO understand.

therefore i had NO problem understanding that his words were being twisted and meaning assigned that simply was not there ... that is ALWAYS a "bad" thing

to have a leader do that? with so many gullible followers likely to blindly "follow suit" ... now it became MY moral responsibility to point out that black is in fact black and white is in fact white

i've worked too hard to move people out of their slumber to even recognize the NEED to question (reasons she outlined herself) to sit by silently while a "leader" attempts to silence or challenge that very action that is OUR (and i include the entire human race here) RIGHT to do

NOT questioning IS the problem the majority of time

it is how evil goes unchecked

if it cannot withstand questioning? then it need not hold the place it does, right?

either way Ms Cassidy's post has the dubious distinction of being the ONE thing that propelled me into action to join a forum ... that ALL these years and decades i never had ...

lol!@ ... i'll try to stay out of trouble now ... :D

[RunningDeer]

Posted by iota (here)
In closing, i would like to offer a mild explanation that my son just passed away (Mar 2) i will always believe and have cause to believe that irrespective of details, there was an intention to subvert and attack me and my work specifically. Whether or not that is in fact so, i have paid my due diligence and showed my commitment in spite of great motivation to slip away in silence ... and having paid many a high price, as well as having proven my commitment and love in service to others i believe entitles me to have equal vocalization in a matter that can have an impact on what i personally endeavor to do.


i merely, shared that to apologize and give you an understanding of where i am coming from in respect to my tone. prior to march, it is likely i would have been much more diligent and perhaps NOT so forthright. but my son is dead. i have NO more time to play games or appease. there is work to be done. many, many including most here have ALL done their part to move the consciousness forward ...

Welcome to Avalon, iota. Sorry for the loss of your son. My heart goes out to you. Such a short time ago or long time ago depending on how those moment to moments stretch out.

With heart,
Paula ♡

[AutumnW]

Posted by Mike (here)
hi iota, welcome to the forum!

nice post there!

look, i'm not a kerry fan. i'd really like to unleash some thoughts here.....the only thing keeping me from really letting it rip is my respect for Bill.

but i will say this: it's not too complex. whenever there is some noise on avalon, or whenever we're getting attention here, Kerry will find some nonsensical reason to inject herself into it for a little shameless attention. she'll find some reason to associate herself with the action. thats what she did here. thats all there is to it. notice she'll rarely follow up. thats very telling.

Does this mean you haven't ordered the, "it's complicated," coffee mug and t-shirt?

[geofffxdwg]

Because he will be easy to debunk at the right time. Thats why Corey!

[iota]

Welcome to Avalon, iota. Sorry for the loss of your son. My heart goes out to you. Such a short time ago or long time ago depending on how those moment to moments stretch out.

With heart,
Paula ♡

dearest Running Dear

i feel as though i know your gentle spirit from having read so many of your posts in the past (thank you for them by the way). it was recent, March 2, 2017. But i'm ok. i KNEW i would not be allowed crash in a completely brutal way, but i was given an extraordinary amount of grace and the kindness and compassion of others has truly, truly been such a blessing to me at this time ... he was a very kind and gentle soul and the world WAS a bit harsh for him, i take solace in knowing they can't mess with my baby any more and now he is where he is understood and everyone speaks his language ~ Love

blessings to you precious soul! may your compassion be returned to you multiplies ... <3

[UfonautRadio]

Again, thanks to BR for having the courage to do this. It's not easy. The big icture questions about CG's story is what is really important. Using other charlatan personalities as proof of your own tale is ludicrous. I found the explanation on CG's site even more ridiculous.

https://spherebeingalliance.com/blog...ur-claims.html

The Gaia machine is so slick at this point, no other para outfit will be able to compete in that space. Yes they are doing an excellent job with marketing and production. This is what makes them even more dangerous.

[iota]

Posted by UfonautRadio (here)
Again, thanks to BR for having the courage to do this. It's not easy. The big icture questions about CG's story is what is really important. Using other charlatan personalities as proof of your own tale is ludicrous. I found the explanation on CG's site even more ridiculous.

https://spherebeingalliance.com/blog...ur-claims.html

The Gaia machine is so slick at this point, no other para outfit will be able to compete in that space. Yes they are doing an excellent job with marketing and production. This is what makes them even more dangerous.

completely agree which is WHY awareness of the attempts to "silence all dissent" or ridicule and outright attack those who question is SO important, there comes a point when they reach a level that seems to be "above question" and NONE of us should ever be given that ... it's not conducive to integrity, accountability nor responsibility.

honestly, this issue would have been much better served to have been addressed MUCH earlier prior to its escalation of mass followers ... if i WERE to find fault, it would not be IN questioning, but rather in not doing it earlier and more persistently when it was more "containable ~ strictly my opinion, of course

[RunningDeer]

This is a continuation of Randy Maugans’ video series from the OP. The summary offers interesting POVs and info if you don’t have time to listen.

You're welcome to move if it’s too far from topic.

Snippet from video summary:

We discuss what the "Secret Space Program": a mind control program that operates as a front for weapons programs and atmospheric mind control; Corey Goode just the latest version of a long series of planted assets, used to exploit people in the UFO, "Exopolitics" movements; Exopolitics is a money-making operation; SSP is a truth, but NOT what is presented.

The Theme of the Meme is the Blue Avians. Goode is using indoctrination to cancel out the menacing aspects of the secret weapons programs; the multi-tiered aspects of SSP; masking sexual abuse, pedophilia, and traumatic mind control programs; "Mars" programming, screen memories; "space" as it is presented is a myth; SSP uses simulations, induction, and hypnosis on subjects.

@ 31:02 - Randy’s question - “Are we seeing active triggers implanted even in the word blue avians? And is this something that’s being encoded as an acceptance in to entrainment?” Elise responds in part from this book:

This is the book Elise E. reads from by Mark M. Rich, “New World War: Revolutionary Methods for Political Control”.

Amazon Summary:

A silent war is taking place in cities all over the planet. It is covered-up by the media, mental health system, NGOs, and our elected officials. Now that the financial elite are finished using the US military and allied forces to conquer nations in their quest for global domination, they're neutralizing individuals and groups of resisters who live among the people. To do this, they have recruited a major portion of the civilian population, which is used as a surrogate force to persecute those who have been identified as enemies. As part of the same agenda, the security forces are conducting psychological operations on civilians and torturing them with directed-energy weapons. The entire operation is in service to some very wealthy psychopaths who rule our society, as part of a global revolution intended to result in a planetary dictatorship, known as the New World Order.

Elisa E.: Mind War: Psy-Ops, World-view Warfare, and Targeted Groups

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=1GjRZyzepFM

Published on May 12, 2017

Emily Moyer, Randy Maugans with MKULTRA survivor, Elisa E., author of "Our Life Beyond MKULTRA"

https://ourlifebeyondmkultra.wordpress.com

ARE MAJOR UFO CONFERENCES USED AS LURES FOR OPERATIVES TO BE RE-PROGRAMMED? WHAT ARE THE DANGERS TO TIs, OPERATIVES, SURVIVORS OF SRA,CULTS, AND THOSE IN DE-PROGRAMMING...AND TO ATTENDEES IN GENERAL?

"This is the key point: the effective employment of air and space power has to do not so much with airplanes and missiles and engineering as with thinking and attitude and imagination."-- General Merrill A. McPeak, USAF.

~Neocortical Warfare-RAND CORP.
~New World War Revolutionary Methods for Political Control by Mark M. Rich
~Doctrine For Joint Psychological Operations-Joint Chiefs of Staff publication

Contact In The Desert/Corey Goode/Steven Greer/ Wizard of Oz/"Over the Rainbow Programming”

The UFO scene, conferences as addiction; critical for people de-programming to attend these events---which can be re=programming venues for TIs, ex-Black Ops operatives, MPD/DID, SRA survivors, etc.

Isolation and exposure risks at major events like UFO conferences Steven Greer. Plasma ships, Contact In the Desert, energy-based mind control, mass hypnosis.

Elisa's programming to Steven Greer; the International UFO Conference in Laughlin; how she was programmed into a situation where she was deployed as an assassin; Greer is a programmed asset of the CIA; Podesta designated agent for "disclosure" program; has ongoing contact with John Podesta and Hillary Clinton

Elisa's encounter with Steven Greer at IUFOC. (00:25:00)
Induced states, neuro-linguistic programming, and layered signals.

Staged meetings, mind controlled actors/operatives planted to monitor and harrass targeted attendees

Connections to conferences, intelligence agencies, key "asset" media outlets like Project Camelot.

We discuss what the "Secret Space Program": a mind control program that operates as a front for weapons programs and atmospheric mind control; Corey Goode just the latest version of a long series of planted assets, used to exploit people in the UFO, "Exopolitics" movements; Exopolitics is a money-making operation; SSP is a truth, but NOT what is presented.

The Theme of the Meme is the Blue Avians. Goode is using indoctrination to cancel out the menacing aspects of the secret weapons programs; the multi-tiered aspects of SSP; masking sexual abuse, pedophilia, and traumatic mind control programs; "Mars" programming, screen memories; "space" as it is presented is a myth; SSP uses simulations, induction, and hypnosis on subjects.

Elisa talks about her experiences with a UFO abductees group. Group was a "honeypot operation" for programming; encounter with a humanoid entity; a visit to "red place" (Mars?), MiLABS. Rape and sexual programming as “Kundalini".

SSP as cover-up for various clandestine operations, A.I., transhumanism and plasma weaponry. Orbs and Sphere Beings to present plasma weaponry as exotic and exciting "sci-fi"-type imagery.

How MILABS and Super Soldier programs emerged as conduits for misdirection.

Exopolitics has replaced MUFON. Well financed, celebrities, glossy "Hollywood" presentation. Legitimate expositors of information on SSP, Catherine Austin-Fitts, Joseph Farrell; researching verifiable information vs. the undocumented programs; psycho-spiritual aspects of "disclosure".

Unacknowledged Special Access Programs.

Release of MK-ULTRA documents was a controlled leak to hide the major programs and agendas.

Exopolitics, SSP as "magnets" to sustain the illusions about "outer space" programs; it is a belief system; the balance between the intellectual and spiritual exploration of all phenomenon. Levels of information that do not exist as documentation.

The Spiritual.BIZ interview with Corey Goode on making money from "spirituality"; the CULT being built around The Sphere Being Alliance and the Blue Avians; ascension; cults are money-making operations.

Whistleblowers usually wind up being stalked, abused, targeted, broke, and marginalized---how does Corey Goode wind up on the talk circuit, feted, put up in nice home, being paid high dollars, and running a media entertainment enterprise. Glamorizing mind control.

Disposable "assets": Max Spiers, the sacrifice of key figures; invitation to walk away from the agencies' agenda, join us in exploring and exposing the truth---not the fictions deployed as deep psychological operations to hide their agendas.

[Mike]

its an interesting interview. im a little more than halfway thru.

i find that the catch 22 in the alt community is this: those sincere people attempting to expose frauds often have backgrounds and stories that are almost as unbelievable as the frauds themselves (its a dynamic that allows people like Corey to infiltrate us so easily). its like someone warning us about the dangers of person x and his crazy stories involving Dr Strange while in the very next breath earnestly launching into their own personal experiences with the Incredible Hulk. thats how it comes off. and its easy for the Corey's of the world to exploit that.

ive been around a while. most of us have. we *know* about super soldiers and mind control. i *know* for a *fact* that these things exist. im a firm believer in the testimony of Cathy O'Brien, for example. but even me, someone who has been around the block a few times with this stuff, was sort of thinking "noooo! stop! please! i beg you!" when she started telling the tale of being abducted at the super soldier conference, being implanted with an alter to kill Greer, and so on.

this woman seemed very sincere. her story was fascinating, and very well could be true. but its so fantastical that when juxtaposed against Corey's it provides zero perspective. it just makes things even blurrier. well, for me anyway.

i tend to get dizzy when there is nothing to grab on to...when theres no solid ground from which to operate. in a very difficult murder case a detective might have one or 2 very small clues, like a shoe print or blurry security cam photo..but at least he has something! when i hear stories like these, there is nothing to grab on to, no point from which to operate....so you always feel off balance..or like youre floating in this nebulous mass of emotional and intellectual quicksand. and yet, i *know* these things happen..so i sort of have mixed feelings about it all.

now i shall shut up and listen to the rest of it...

[RunningDeer]

Posted by Mike (here)
its an interesting interview. im a little more than halfway thru.

I downloaded the video a little before 11 a.m. Now 6 hours later, I’m only @ 1:06:28.

I’m watching the ADD part of me find all sorts of stupid busy things to do or going off on tangents from the video. Fascinating topics are covered. Lots of ah-has. I continue to check the reasons why I haven’t completed it. Typically, the behavior means it's not meant for me, but I don't believe it's the case with this one.

now i shall shut up and listen to the rest of it...

Yup, me too.