What's happening in China?

[cayman]

Posted by Steven (here)
I'm from Canada. No it's common, even for Canadians

Namaste, Steven

Good to know, my friend.

[Tom Sawyer]

Posted by Steven (here)
Very sharp perception. I absolutely agree. See, in my country (Canada) I am currently fighting with my working collegues (Hydro-Quebec) against the total infiltration of private power in the highest ranks of the administrative staff. Hydro-Quebec is a state company. The nationalization has been done by our fathers fighting against privates oppressing interest after the second war. Now, we see our state company literraly attacked by banks, corporations and other privatly own economical powers to privatize it all. Compared to China's situation, it's the other way round.

I was born in a place which is now a small Country the territory of which is only 4.163 square km. It's in Europe, right between Moldova and Ukraine. Just think about it - there are 5 power plants (hydro, thermal, gas, etc.). Quite redundantly for 500.000 population, don't you think? 2 are brand new co-generation PP. One is technologically the newest and the most perfect in the whole Europe. Except hydro one - all private. What can I say - the whole Country is almost private. As Charles said PTB are building nests. Logically - beyond doubt.

[cayman]

Posted by bilko (here)
Every time i click on the second video it crashes my Mac!
The first one won't play.
I'm not trying the others.
Never had my Mac crash before.
Hmm, something they don't want us to see?

It works in my macbook, I guess it has something to do with the Adobe flash version compatibility .may I suggest you another browser? I presume you used safari in OS X, so firefox may be a viable alternative.

[Annie]

Thanks Cayman for the posting of video 1.Even skeptics would find it difficult to explain that one away.

[Tom Sawyer]

I remember a saw a fragment of this video 1 on one of the Russian TV channels. Quite amazing to see it in full length. Thanks

[E.Yes]

Posted by cayman (here)
It works in my macbook, I guess it has something to do with the Adobe flash version compatibility .may I suggest you another browser? I presume you used safari in OS X, so firefox may be a viable alternative.

I watched it on firefox first, then I watched it on Safari and it crashed the browser.

Great thread, thanks!

[bluestflame]

could this be related , ...a field test , a test run ?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=RjkUTMiUwTY

as evidenced by this vid , video cameras are able to pick up holographic imaging as if it were (almost) real

[Myatding]

I've chosen to start a new thread in General Discussion related to this thread, but also related to the Benjamin Fulford and Iraqi Dinar threads. I would very much like to hear what others of you think about the connections that I am working to understand.

See:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...eferrerid=2986

Cheers,
Mark

[Icecold]

Cayman, since you started posting here, your grasp of english has improved at an astonishing rate. Nothing short of miraculous. Especially noticed is your grasp of slang and colloquial terms. I'm very impressed.

[Buchanan561]

Thanks for sharing your information about China. It just adds to our knowledge base of other parts of the world. It is hard to find the truth and not just political propagander. Thanks much. Emma here from America, another country that is not free.

[Cognitive Dissident]

Hi Cayman, thanks for your detailed response. I think you are lucky to be in China this lifetime - I have lived in China many times, but this time I was born in the West. Even so, some people say I look Chinese (no Chinese genetics though!) and of course I learned Chinese pretty fast (still quite ma ma hu hu - hen jiu mei you shou-le, suo-yi, tui bu le, hao ke-xi!).
I agree with your analysis, and you are right about the false hope. Let me have a think about this, I will keep my eye out for China related insights, and post them here.

[hao]

It's Epoch Times, they spread the many lies about the riots in Tibet in 2008, they spread the lies that China's first space EVA was faked, they have links to falun gong whose supporters cheered on the streets of America when most of the Chinese were grieving because of the devastating earthquake that struck Sichuan province in 2008, these people are so pervertedly hateful of their own government that they had to celebrate the demise of those innocent people whose lives have been either lost or affected by the calamity, as if it was really Sharon Stone's karma manifested itself on the Chinese regime.

And who covertly fund the Falun gong? NED, which is really the CIA in disguise. Also, the Epoch Times is usually sympathetic towards Taiwan, just like Nancy Pelosi has links to Taiwan so no wonder she is a noisy critic of the mainland regime.

My mother know a woman whose husband once practiced Falun gong for a way of exercise himself, but he quited after one day him along with other practitioners were taken away by some senior Falun gong members, they drove them to a place where they handed out anti-government booklets and materials to them in an attempt to indoctrinate the practitioners. He then realized all of sudden the Falun gong is no ordinary sect, it's motivated,organized and funded for certain political purpose.

Another instance of their disgrace, you see the Chinese sales guys i know from the gift shop, some Falun gong guy visited them one day, he asked the Chinese students working there to sign a piece of paper stating they will quit the CCP, since most high school students are CYLC(Communist Youth League of China) members when graduating here in China, the guys in the shop didnt take him seriously and they didnt sign it, the Falun gong guy got frustrated and start cursing them before he was gone. So basically that's the way how the Epoch Times was able to create their "sensational" news of the so called "8 million memebers quit the CCP". A CIA funded organization, you bet you would find frauds in them.

[TheSwede]

Hi Cayman and other Chinese people!

This is in regard to the blocking of specific traffic the Chinese suffers from on the Internet.

Do you have any details on how this blocking is set up? If they just block domains or countrys a VPN or proxy solution would give you access to the entire Internet. There is alot of public VPN services out there that sets up an encrypted tunnel that will allow all traffic to the domain you're connected through.

I do this stuff for a living, using VPN tunnels to access all the internal networks on the companies i administrate. I also use VPN tunnels and proxys outside work on my free time.

An example is TVstations that only allow their own country to watch their Web-TV, you can bypass by connecting to a domain within the country using a proxy or VPN tunnel to access all their services from outside.

For private usage outside work I personally use a VPN tunnel that i beta-tested and it works awesome with good speed, i topped the tunnel at 94mb/sec so its not a ****ty tunnel like most public one are. The one I use is the one the guys behind ThePiratebay created to help the people bypass all the stupid laws put in the system. https://www.ipredator.se/?lang=en

Can you for example access these domains:
https://www.ipredator.se/?lang=en
or
http://ivacy.com

[TheSwede]

Just read the following on Wikipedia:
The firewall is largely ineffective at preventing the flow of information and is rather easily circumvented by determined parties by using proxy servers outside the firewall.[83] VPN and SSH connections to outside mainland China are not blocked, so circumventing all of the censorship and monitoring features of the Great Firewall of China is trivial for those who have these secure connection methods to computers outside mainland China available to them.

So basically if you connect through a VPN tunnel you would have unlimited internet access thats encrypted so they cant see what youre doing.

However it might be dangerous if they see ALL you're internet traffic is encrypted and all communication goes to a specific domain disabling them from seeing what you are doing.

So if I were you and used a VPN in china I would use it as little as possible only when needed. That way very little of you're traffic will be encrypted and hopefully not pop up in their system as someone that stands out from the rest. If you only used a VPN tunnel with encrypted information a big red light would go off in their firewall I'm sure, haha.

[The One]

Chinese satellite navigation officials say they intend to field an operational system covering all of Asia by 2010, but they are giving few details on the deployment plans for their global system. In addition China has yet to complete frequency coordination with the United States, Europe, Russia and others.




http://www.peopleforum.cn/viewthread.php?tid=33183

[Celine]

Posted by Icecold (here)
Cayman, since you started posting here, your grasp of english has improved at an astonishing rate. Nothing short of miraculous. Especially noticed is your grasp of slang and colloquial terms. I'm very impressed.

Yes i noticed that too...A couple of french members have also improved, by using chat.


Great thread to pay attention to...lots to learn, thank you

[Tom Sawyer]

Posted by cayman (here)
Could you copy/paste some details you mentioned above in this thread? I can't access his website from China. Except the camelot interview, I saw nothing else directly from him. thank you

Hello again Cayman! Sorry, I was out preparing an overview about B. Fulford for you but when I got back to my laptop I saw a great post from Myatding:
https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...eferrerid=2986
I think the subject is covered in most important aspects - we can only discuss the details. So please take a look. BTW happy Chinese NY!!! I wish you all GOOD!!!

[Tom Sawyer]

Cayman, friend, look what I've found. These photos are taken over the Russia and some former Soviet Republics.
Think you'll find it very familiar. It shows the similarity of the technology used in the UFO, if it's one...

July 2010, Alma-Ata


Barnaul, Tomsk


Zenith Rocket launch, Altai



Zenith-3F Rocket launch:


Progress M-06M, Baikonur


The rest are here:
http://serial.co.ua/pozitive/33951-k...a-23-foto.html

[Icecold]

Ex-China Foreign Ministry Official says Extraterrestrials live among us

Chinese scientists also say that aliens live among humans. This includes Sun Shili, a retired foreign ministry official who is now president of the Beijing UFO Research Society who also concludes that waixingren (extraterrestrials) are living among us.

Sun's first close encounter occurred in 1971, when he was sent to the remote countryside during the "cultural revolution" (1966-76) to perform the grueling task of rice planting. One day while toiling in the field, his attention was diverted to a bright object in the sky, which rose and fell repeatedly.

At first, Sun assumed the spectacle was some sort of Cold War intelligence monitoring device - a reasonable deduction considering the times - however years later, after reading foreign materials on UFO sightings, he knew he had experienced a close encounter.

And Sun is not the only expert in the country taking these sightings seriously. According to the highly-accredited Shen ****uan, an actual rocket scientist, president of Beijing Aerospace University and honourary director of the government-supported China UFO Research Association, every report of an alien encounter is worth investigating.

Research [ethically-based] into UFO's could help spur new forms of high-speed travel, unlimited sources of non-polluting and non-fossil fuel based energy and faster-growing crops, claims Sun Shili, president of a government-approved UFO Research Association (membership 50,000).

Over 400 members of Dalian's UFO Society have college degrees
In Dalian's UFO Society, 90 per cent of the 400 members have college degrees. "It's exciting for us to use science to decipher UFO sightings," said Zhou Xiaoqiang, secretary-general of the Beijing UFO Society.
While few Chinese claim to have managed to get quite as intimate with an extraterrestrial as Meng, a growing number of people in China believe in unidentified flying objects, or UFOs.
In fact, Officially registered UFO associations in China have about 50,000 members, but some estimate the actual number of Chinese interested in the subject is probably in the tens of millions.

China has a bimonthly magazine -- circulation 400,000 - devoted to UFO research. The conservative state-run media also report UFO sightings on a regular basis, in contrast with Western government organization which, as a policy, deny verifiable human contact with Extraterrestrial. UFO buffs in China claim support from eminent scientists and liaisons with the secretive military, giving their work full scientific respectability.
"If something flies over [ET spacecraft], there's a very good reason for trying to understand why they're here, why they come to us, what is their relationship between us and them," he says.

"In order to understand UFO phenomena, we need to have a broad understanding of different disciplines," says Albert So, university professor and Hong Kong UFO club member, "including mathematics, physics, history, philosophy, even some sort of paranormal activities and all that."

To read more on this story; http://www.agoracosmopolitan.com/hom.../07/01353.html

[Celine]

Any one interested in whats happening in China?

I am!