The Truth about Corey Goode

[Eram]

Posted by Lost N Found (here)
"As long as we continue to add to this and support this unreal figure then I guess we keep it alive."

My thoughts exactly Lost N Found and until recently, I've refused for let Goode into the forefront of my mind any longer then nescessary, let alone write posts about him.
Yet, since Dark Journalist raised some serious questions as to the organisation that Goode has become the figurehead of, I think the game has changed in such a way that we must reconsider our position.

If a virus attacks the body, ignoring it won't make it better.
Recognize the situation and take proper measures to cure disease. That's the way to go.

Investigate, expose and taking counter measures is what is needed now imo.

Too many people have been caught into the nets of the fake new age movement over the past 30 years and if we can do just a little to help solve this trap, then in my book, that's energy well spent.

[norman]

Posted by TargeT (here)
Shane has been busy....

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=wqd4Rm5mGUE

Shane sounds very sane to me, but at 2:47:30 to 2:48:40, CW Chanter completely fails my smell test, and he should really get out of the truther scene and return to where he must have crawled out from. I won't be following his "contribution" from here on.

When I first discovered Chanter I was impressed by his logical power, once I got past his persona obfuscations, but I now realise I was naive about the guy's real darkness.

[RunningDeer]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by OMG (here)
In the END there is NO "irrefutable proof" against Corey so case is closed.

Your continued defense, OMG, of the disinformation, propaganda, mind-control, human-control operation of which Corey is one small, but for the moment, prominent part is a bogus defense on so many counts that I hardly know where to begin.

So I'll semi-randomly pick the last "point" you made, trying to shift the burden of proof onto those of us defending humanity from this toxic operation.

The burden of proof of those making impossible to verify, and highly implausible, claims lies with those making the claims. It is absolutely wrong to claim that any such case is closed in favor of the bogus claimant, especially after arbitrarilly dismissing substantial and credible evidence from a variety of sources of high integrity showing that Corey is part of a deeply dishonest and deceptive operation.

In simpler terms ... the burden of proof of impossible to verify claims lies with those making the claims, not with those doubting them.

Should the Avalon moderators choose to discuss the merits of allowing your continued participation in this discussion, don't count on me for any support.

Wow, Paul, I gotta this. ................

♡

[Chester]

Posted by OMG (here)
In the END there is NO "irrefutable proof" against Corey so case is closed.

If someone lives a life where they establish a track record for honesty and one day they tell me they were beamed up by blue bird ETs one night, I would be skeptical but to some degree open minded.

When someone lives a life where they repeatedly lie and get caught in those lies (provable OMG and just a tiny few have been documented here on this thread) and one day they tell me they were beamed up by blue bird ETs one night, I would put most of my money on "It's all BS."

It is that simple OMG and if you cannot demonstrate fairness in acknowledging Corey's well established track record for spinning yarns and his constant, significant story changing (where only one version could be true but where it is far most likely both are lies) and then admit that the fact of all this does indeed raise the degree on sensible "questioning" as to the veracity of his other worldly "stories" then I am ready to accept that a portion of humanity is so lost that the only fear I have is.. will this portion become dominant?

The statement you made that I quoted is utter senselessness. The baseless case you attempt to build to lead up to this statement (as if any of it had any merit) is equally baseless.

[Shadowself]

In the END there is NO "irrefutable proof" against Corey so case is closed

The alternative community of UFO awareness is closing in on him daily. Let's give a listen shall we? I listened to Kerry last night after work and heard yet another spin on this subject. Learned some things I didn't know. You sir/mam have not gathered all the facts either. There is no way you could have.

The general consensus is that he (Cory) is full of it. But more importantly subverting the subject to a fantasy rather than a serious subject. Which have effected many people in a variety of way. Many in bad ways.

I have perused his FB page of people/followers and must say I've seen several who have mentioned among many things in passing suicide. Yet he gives comfort and council to these people? He is NOT QUALIFIED to do that. In fact I've mentioned and witnessed deleted posts of his that would suggest a repressed individual by his own words that would disqualify him in any such position! Several others have seen it too.

This drip drip drip of so called disclosure is getting old fast. DW has predicted disclosure from the likes of Obama which never occurred and now we are going to jump on the DW bandwagon of Ascension? Give me a break!

There are four more episodes of DJ to come and frankly I'm riveted already.

"OMG! I can't handle the negativity!!" the Corey fans scream. Grow up will ya! There are plenty of negative aspects to this subject...so if you can't handle the heat get out of the kitchen!

[Catsquotl]

Posted by norman (here)

Posted by Catsquotl (here)

With Love
Eelco

The key word here is Nefarious. The idea that we should stand down on a universal ideological principle in the face of nefarious activity designed to have a huge transformational impact on the whole world is laughable on a good day and suicidal on a wet day.

Hey Norman,
I'm sorry I don't understand how this ties in to what I wrote.

With Love
Eelco

[Catsquotl]

Posted by TargeT (here)
The human animal is easily distracted, short term memory plagued and ruled by emotion unless constantly vigilant

This lack of self analysis is really the root of many issues, but there are many other phenomenon occurring at the same time (this "struggle" didn't start recently; it simply shifts context (the anti-fascists of the 60's become the fascists of the 2010's etc..), the base patterns remain the same).

Anything that gets people to question is good, unfortunately that is not the usual outcome... most people, when a belief is challenged, respond by defending their belief, not questioning it or seeing the "challenging info" as valid.

Elitism is another human failing, and elitism requires a large group of "unprivileged"... their "chosen way" is diametrically opposed to the concepts of free will and equal opportunity.

I agree,

That said, The failing human animals make up for a large portion of "we the people" And through there efforts or lack thereof We live in the consensus reality we live in.
My/our predicament is this.
Calling these people out on their failings will like you said trigger a defense mode. In that mode the failing human animal will not be open to other possibilities.

We have little to work with as it is so I am hoping we (the small group of so called awake failing human animals) will find a way to reach our brothers and sisters.
Now in truth I am way less mushy as it appears, but unless we find a way to reach them/ build a bridge instead of increasing the gap that is already there. I don't think we will see any of the freedoms we hold so dear in our lifetimes..

After Corey another will stand up, in fact I believe there are already many many liars out there. Being carried on the hands of thousands of failing human beings.

There is a reason these people are failing and I for one don't blame them for it..
I won't diminish there value by saying they are dumb, fooled, used or behaving like sheep. They are wondrous beings expressing themselves in a way only they can working with the little knowledge they hold for their truth..

But then that's just me, and no I don't feel any better about it. Just expressing my truth as it is.
BTW failing at that miserably most of the time too.

With Love
Eelco

[Satori]

If I may weigh in here, it is only to do so in connection with Paul's post re the burden of proof. Indeed, while I have with some interest read the various posts about CG and DW (and others), I have no personal knowledge or experience to be able to support or contradict their claims. In fact, I have never read or listened to a single word from CG and I stopped reading or listening to DW years ago. (My reaction to DW was not unlike a man who Bill and Kerry interviewed many years ago and DW was participating in that interview and the sessions with this man. I do not remember the man's name, but as I recall there was a meeting at a location in a somewhat secluded valley in North America. Bill and Kerry were for the most part behind the camera and conducting the interview. Although there were some scenes of Bill, Kerry and DW talking over dinner. In one session, in a cabin I believe, DW sat next to the man on the same side of a picnic-like table during the interview. The man would be speaking and DW would interrupt him and say something that DW thought was relevant and insightful. Or, DW would ask a loaded question. The man's reaction to DW spoke volumes. It was apparent to me that this man thought DW was an idiot or a con man, or both. But I digress.)

Paul makes a valid point about the burden of proof. This point has been made elsewhere on this forum. I write only to add that the burden of proof is on any person who makes a claim; small, large or improbable. The claim does not have to be "highly improbable" to place the burden of proof on the advocate or proponent of the claim. Paul is touching upon the issue of the "quantum" of proof and the burden or persuasion, not merely the burden of proof.

The quantum, or degree, of proof may best be illustrated by the level or degree of proof required to prevail in civil cases versus criminal cases here in the USA. In a civil case, as a general rule, the quantum of proof is a "preponderance of the evidence." However, if fraud or other intentionally wrongful conduct is alleged to have occurred, the quantum of proof is "clear and convincing evidence." In a criminal case, the quantum of proof is "beyond a reasonable doubt." Now, these are somewhat amorphous or vague terms, but our judicial system leaves it to the jury, or a judge in a bench trial, to weigh the evidence, judge the credibility of the witnesses, and use their common sense to determine whether the applicable quantum of proof has been satisfied.

You may have observed that as the stakes get higher, so too the quantum of proof. If I sue you for breach of contract and I want money, I have to prove my claim by a preponderance of the evidence. But, if I want punitive damages as well, because you are a really bad actor and you should be made an example of to deters others, I have to prove my case by clear and convincing evidence. However, if I am the State and I want to put you in jail or worse, I must prove your guilt beyond a reasonable doubt. And, in a criminal case, you as the defendant do not have to prove didily-squat. As far as I know, CG is not a criminal defendant. Thus, the burden of proof and persuasion is on him, and anyone else, who makes any claims about whatever the subject may be.

So, the question becomes what is that quantum of proof for claims about SSP, having been to Mars, and "alien blue chickens" etc...? If I may, I think this gets us back to Paul's point. We may have all heard by now the oft used phrase that "extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof." CG's claims are extraordinary by any measure. He, like anyone else making such claims, has a very high hurdle to leap over.

I welcome receipt of the extraordinary proof of these extraordinary claims. Until the proof is in, I'm not buying it.

Edit: Lest I be misunderstood, I return to add that I do not doubt there is a SSP, black ops, terrestrial and extraterrestrial life forms and beings, and the like. What I'm not buying, for lack of any proof that I have seen or heard, is CG's whistleblower status and the claims derived therefrom.

[TargeT]

Posted by Catsquotl (here)
The failing human animals make up for a large portion of "we the people" And through there efforts or lack thereof We live in the consensus reality we live in.
My/our predicament is this.
Calling these people out on their failings will like you said trigger a defense mode. In that mode the failing human animal will not be open to other possibilities.

We have little to work with as it is so I am hoping we (the small group of so called awake failing human animals) will find a way to reach our brothers and sisters.
Now in truth I am way less mushy as it appears, but unless we find a way to reach them/ build a bridge instead of increasing the gap that is already there. I don't think we will see any of the freedoms we hold so dear in our lifetimes..

Your sort of acting like we have something to loose, in my mind this community is so small, that even if we set some few thousand people into defensive mode we will only gain from it. Humans, when in defense of a belief become pretty irrational as they are mostly functioning from the reptilian mind set (which doesn't do logic, or often make much sense) and so they will "show themselves" and this will be the most important outcome of the entire situation in my opinion. This will set an example that can be referenced for future situations.

Others will stumble down this same path, we need to leave examples of the pitfalls for them to stumble onto.. and the more public and documented the better as this will allow new readers to see what can happen, and how the traps are laid etc..

I don't see this collision helping very much with the current community, but I also don't think much of the current community, it's very small and very influential at this time.

Posted by Catsquotl (here)
There is a reason these people are failing and I for one don't blame them for it..
I won't diminish there value by saying they are dumb, fooled, used or behaving like sheep. They are wondrous beings expressing themselves in a way only they can working with the little knowledge they hold for their truth..

I agree, you don't blame the 5 year old when he gets beat up by a 30 year old; but you have to do something for him, right?

[Catsquotl]

Posted by TargeT (here)
Your sort of acting like we have something to loose.

I believe we do.
By putting a few thousand in defense mode we've missed an opportunity to let them find the truth, helping them ingrain there current belief system with a dig in come what may emotion. Yes I'd say that's even more detrimental than just providing the intel to leave them a choice. Free will and all that.

As for the 5 year old and the 30 year old bully.
Neither side is 5 in this case. Both sides are mostly adult human beings making the choices the do based on the information and belief system they have.

With Love
Eelco

[TargeT]

Posted by Catsquotl (here)

Posted by TargeT (here)
Your sort of acting like we have something to loose.

I believe we do.
By putting a few thousand in defense mode we've missed an opportunity to let them find the truth helping them ingrain there already belief system with a dig in come what may emotion.

But the intent is not to put people in defensive mode, that's an outcome inherent to the human psychological system.. I've tried for years to slip around it, but if a belief is strongly held, you cannot... As I said, the best you can do is set up an example for others who will follow the path in the future (and this is wholey inclusive of the group that is in "defensive mode" because eventually that belief will be replaced by another, and some will go back and review material with a different mind set.. I have done this myself several times in my life).

It's a convoluted thing, but it's meant to be.

Posted by Catsquotl (here)
just providing the intel to leave them a choice. Free will and all that.

You feel that's not what is happening now? That's exactly the type of thing that puts people into defensive mode (it doesn't take actual attacks, or animosity or anything like that, just stating something that challenges or conflicts with a strongly held belief).

I'd like to hope that's exactly what is happening right now.

[Catsquotl]

Posted by TargeT (here)
But the intent is not to put people in defensive mode, that's an outcome inherent to the human psychological system..
It's a convoluted thing, but it's meant to be.

Just this should be an an incentive to keep looking for new strategies, especially because like yourself I too have a few years of failing at finding the sweet spots under my belt.

Posted by TargeT (here)
You feel that's not what is happening now?
I'd like to hope that's exactly what is happening right now.

Truthfully, No. In my mind this is turning into the lets piss on Corey some more show. Or shows seeing the attention he's getting all across the board.
For example I've never had to endure Gaia commercials before on youtube.
Now I do.. For another there's a lot of opinions out there which do diddly squat for exposing Corey as a storyteller. Only generate more advertising.

If he is (my personal belief) a guy who smelled an opportunity to make a living in the (woo woo) entertainment industry and cashes in on it.
Well you know what they say, even bad publicity is good for that business. So I for one have learned what I needed to from this renewal of the Corey Goodey show. Took the opportunity to reunite with some old friends. And will leave it be.

With Love
Eelco

[TrumanCash]

Posted by norman (here)

Posted by Shadowself (here)

They do not seem very concerned yet.

In raw numbers they have the biggest crowd and it's growing fast. I don't know how deep GAIA's pockets go. I have the impression they go a long way down into darkness.

We need a Hall of Shame thread. To put all the compromised "researchers" wannabe millennial media stars, unverifiable whistle blowers, channelers, WooWoo scammers and dubious Radio hosts.

That is looking like a very long list and a very fat thread. If we can get the views up to a million over the summer we might get somewhere.


On a witch hunt ? who, me ?

I understand what you're saying, but I think that would be a bit too harsh for "unverifiable whistleblowers". How can anyone verify all data which has been kept secret?

Given that one can safely assume that most "government" ET/SSP whistleblowers have been MKUltra mind controlled and probably programmed with false information, too, in case they go public, so that they discredit themselves, I think that some compassion and understanding for these folks is in order.

I knew two different Vietnam vets who both told me (separately) that they were MKUltra'd in Vietnam. As Cathy O'Brien has said, the MKUltra victims often start remembering the mind control after thirty years or so. One of the vets--a good guy and friend of mine--participated in the My Lai massacre and when he tried to tell me what happened, he broke down and cried. It was too difficult for him to talk about it. Imagine remembering that you helped to slaughter hundreds of unarmed old men, women and children!

I know it is easy for the groupthink phenomenon to kick in when ganging up on a whistleblower that may be imparting false, MKUltra-programmed information, but WHERE IS THE COMPASSION? Why not just realize that that might very well be the case and just be satisfied with taking the info/disinfo with a grain of salt and not attacking the messenger. If it is felt that exposing the disinfo is important to do, why not attack the disinformation instead of the messenger?

The real culprits are in the CIA and other so-called "intelligence" (i.e. mind controlling) organizations as well as the lying, manipulative ETs at the top of the pyramid. Why not spend the time and resources to expose them instead?

Also, I am an "unverifiable whistleblower" that exposed being abducted into a deep underground military/Grays base. Just because some people may not believe in past lives, time-traveling ETs that abduct people from lifetime to lifetime, deep underground military/alien bases, etc, does not give them the right for a witchhunt and burning at the stake. (I have already had that experience during the Inquisition so I am not keen on the idea of going through that again! LOL!)

Of course, now the "government" just harasses, threatens or assassinates whistleblowers (like Phil Schneider) and doesn't usually burn them alive unless we're talking about the Waco incident (and even then I would assume that the government attackers were mind-controlled to burn innocent women and children alive).

But seriously, folks, please lighten up a bit on the whistleblowers and realize that they probably have been programmed to spread disinformation by rendering them unconscious with around 50,000 volts of electricity, drugs and hypnosis without their consent or knowledge.

If a regular nice guy can be programmed this way to slaughter women and children, I think they could also just as easily program people to mix in disinformation with true information.

PLEASE HAVE SOME COMPASSION AND UNDERSTANDING.

[RunningDeer]

Posted by Satori (here)
(My reaction to DW was not unlike a man who Bill and Kerry interviewed many years ago and DW was participating in that interview and the sessions with this man. I do not remember the man's name, but as I recall there was a meeting at a location in a somewhat secluded valley in North America. Bill and Kerry were for the most part behind the camera and conducting the interview.
{snip}
The man would be speaking and DW would interrupt him and say something that DW thought was relevant and insightful. Or, DW would ask a loaded question. The man's reaction to DW spoke volumes. It was apparent to me that this man thought DW was an idiot or a con man, or both. But I digress.)

This is the one that comes to mind. It's 3 part series with Dr. Pete Peterson. He made little eye contact with David. He came across as trying to impress Dr. Peterson. Every time David asked questions, they were really him going on and on with opinions. At one point Dr. Peterson says, “So the question is?”

Snippet of Pete/David exchange @ 56:11.

Project Camelot interviews Dr Pete Peterson - part 1 of 3

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ooSRh7V68uk

[Sequoia]

You rounded it up really well TruemanCash!

Just wanted to note that imo, first the truth had to come out for transparency, so that everyone can be held accountable for what they have done based on their choices, and own it (if you are a public person, then publicly), only then the deep healing and true compassion can begin .

[onawah]

DW is now claiming that a Pete Peterson is one of his insider informants. Does anyone know if he is claiming this is the Dr. Pete Peterson that was interviewed by Project Camelot?
When I first heard of this, I felt very doubtful that Dr. Petetson would choose that role, and concluded it must be disinfo, but I never checked into it far.
For examples, see:
http://discerningthemystery2000plus....d-wilcock.html

http://exopolitics.org/tag/pete-peterson/
If this is all a lie, I certainly hope that Dark Journalist is going to expose it.

Wilcock says that he spoke with another whistleblower, Dr. Pete Peterson, who said that the US based MIC was given these advanced technologies by defectors from corporate controlled secret space programs:

Peterson knew all about these triangle-shaped craft when I discussed it with him on the phone. The MIC are very proud of their new weapon. It is very likely that the MIC got this technology from Alliance defectors from the space-based ICC, or Interplanetary Corporate Conglomerate.

Posted by RunningDeer (here)

Posted by Satori (here)
(My reaction to DW was not unlike a man who Bill and Kerry interviewed many years ago and DW was participating in that interview and the sessions with this man. I do not remember the man's name, but as I recall there was a meeting at a location in a somewhat secluded valley in North America. Bill and Kerry were for the most part behind the camera and conducting the interview.
{snip}
The man would be speaking and DW would interrupt him and say something that DW thought was relevant and insightful. Or, DW would ask a loaded question. The man's reaction to DW spoke volumes. It was apparent to me that this man thought DW was an idiot or a con man, or both. But I digress.)

This is the one that comes to mind. It's 3 part series with Dr. Pete Peterson. He made little eye contact with David. He came across as trying to impress Dr. Peterson. Every time David asked questions, they were really him going on and on with opinions. At one point Dr. Peterson says, “So the question is?”

Snippet of Pete/David exchange @ 56:11.

Project Camelot interviews Dr Pete Peterson - part 1 of 3

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ooSRh7V68uk

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by onawah (here)
DW is now claiming that a Pete Peterson is one of his insider informants. Does anyone know if he is claiming this is the Dr. Pete Peterson that was interviewed by Project Camelot?
When I first heard of this, I felt very doubtful that Dr. Petetson would choose that role, and concluded it must be disinfo.

Yes. I first posted this here: (a slightly trimmed version in this reply)

• https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1143964

~~~

The story is told on this thread:

• The Saga of Dr. Pete Peterson

Pete talked to us the entire day prior to filming... 12 hours, all off-record. I still have the audio, and it's all transcribed. Much of that has never been published then or now.

Kerry got herself into deep trouble when she violated part of that on video, and we learned a year later that she literally nearly got herself killed for that. Not a joke. Peterson had to intercede.

The upshot of all this is that nothing Pete is talking to David Wilcock about would be UNsanctioned by the Pentagon. Either that, or it's so safe (or untrue!) that no sanction would be needed. Pete would never go on TV to talk about the 'real stuff'.

[RunningDeer]

In the link you provided, Michael Salla writes, “In June 2009, Petersen had first shared his testimony on a leading whistleblower site Project Camelot, and has continued to privately brief Wilcock.“

In David’s mind, he may believe Dr. Pete Peterson is his very own go-to-guy. I’m inclined to believe that Peterson is simply sharing points of view and knowledge. The phrase ‘continued to privately brief’ may be just part of the wordsmith game that egos lose themselves in.

Posted by onawah (here)
DW is now claiming that a Pete Peterson is one of his insider informants. Does anyone know if he is claiming this is the Dr. Pete Peterson that was interviewed by Project Camelot?
When I first heard of this, I felt very doubtful that Dr. Petetson would choose that role, and concluded it must be disinfo, but I never checked into it far.

[onawah]

Thanks Bill. I remember that now from the other thread.
Any idea why Dr. Pete would be playing ball with DW?
It really seems out of character for him.

[Lancet]

Hi everyone.
Video was released on 30th May 2017 and it came up on my youtube screen.
I am putting it in general discussions as I am not sure which sub heading this comes under.
It touches on the SSP, Corey Goode and current events.
Posting this video is NOT a sign of support for Kerry or Corey or Shane. i put it up so that people are aware this video is publicly available.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=qsvBPixD5CQ