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Thread: TRUTH ABOUT MAGNETIC SHIELD CLOTHING-Snake Oil. Knowledge is power

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    Exclamation Truth about Magnetic shield clothing

    There was a response to my first thread regarding sharks & magnetic fields that seemed to be promoting sales of magnetic shield clothing. First of all, DON'T DO THAT. Do not use me to make money for yourself. Secondly, don't make money at the expense of others' health. If you have entertained the idea of magnetic shielding please allow me to give you more information.

    The ad placed on my thread claimed to use silver as a solution but herein lies the problem. Silver is a wonderful conductor of electricity, even better than copper and almost as good as gold. Without trying to get too technical, the reason for this is that silver has fewer free electrons than copper and allows energy to be conducted better because there is more space in between electrons. With more space, the electrons have more time to accelerate and travel faster.

    This sounds good and if you have ever heard of a Faraday Cage you might think this is wonderful. Electricity DOES flow through a Faraday cage well because it travels through the path of least resistance. Thereby shielding the human from allowing electricity flowing through the body.

    Magnetic fields permeate air around electricity flowing. Air itself has a very high resistance to magnetic conductivity, 100 million Ohm. More resistance means less conduction. But, when magnetic fields find a conductor with less resistance they travel through it better. When you increase charge carriers you increase conduction. As the ocean, approximately 3% salinity by volume, has a resistance of only 2 Ohm and conducts magnetic fields 50 million times better than that of air.

    I am unsure of the exact resistance of the silver shielding material because it isn't 100% pure but I can tell you it is less resistant than salt therefore, it conducts magnetic fields extremely better. Remember that magnetic fields exist around conductors as in Maxwell's Right-Hand-Rule. If you walk around wearing a conductor of magnetic fields, you attract magnetic fields and allow them to conduct against your body.

    According to the Bh curve of magnetic permeance, the strength of magnetic fields drops exponentially as distance increases. Meaning magnetic effects get stronger as you get closer to it. So the closer you have it to your body, the more it affects you.

    If you choose to buy this "magnetic amplifying material", do it knowingly.
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    Default Re: TRUTH ABOUT MAGNETIC SHIELD CLOTHING-Snake Oil. Knowledge is power

    I think the poster in that thread was referring to the screening/blocking of electro-magnetic radiation(EMF) coming from cell-phone towers, wi-fi sources and smart meters in your home.
    This is pulsed energy that some people are highly sensitive to and for them it really has health benefits to use this mesh material as it effectively blocks out/reduces this hazardous radiation.

    It doesn't screen from magnetic fields, as hardly anything effectively does, but (weak)magnetic fields is not the element of this EMF radiation that makes people sick.
    Infact, magnetic fields can help repair the body.
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    Default Re: TRUTH ABOUT MAGNETIC SHIELD CLOTHING-Snake Oil. Knowledge is power

    It is all magnetic radiation and reacts to conduction in the same manner. Did you know that light itself is magnetic radiation? All of this radiation is just different "colors" of the spectrum. It is all the same thing but exists at different frequencies. Thank you for your concern. I wonder how or why you presume to know what is in someone else's mind though...
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    Default Re: TRUTH ABOUT MAGNETIC SHIELD CLOTHING-Snake Oil. Knowledge is power

    Quote Posted by Hatemachines (here)
    I think the poster in that thread was referring to the screening/blocking of electro-magnetic radiation(EMF) coming from cell-phone towers, wi-fi sources and smart meters in your home.
    This is pulsed energy that some people are highly sensitive to and for them it really has health benefits to use this mesh material as it effectively blocks out/reduces this hazardous radiation.

    It doesn't screen from magnetic fields, as hardly anything effectively does, but (weak)magnetic fields is not the element of this EMF radiation that makes people sick.
    Infact, magnetic fields can help repair the body.
    Some people are negatively affected by AC 50 or 60Hz magnetic fields.
    There is material to help shield against magnetic fields but apparently it does not come cheap.
    https://2ground.com/collections/magn...er-linear-foot
    Many electronic devices are shielded against EMFs, magnetic feilds and RF frequencies so as not to interfere with nearby equipment or harm nearby living beings.

    Quote Posted by RMF808 (here)
    It is all magnetic radiation and reacts to conduction in the same manner. Did you know that light itself is magnetic radiation? All of this radiation is just different "colors" of the spectrum. It is all the same thing but exists at different frequencies. Thank you for your concern. I wonder how or why you presume to know what is in someone else's mind though...
    You may want to have a look in this forum category and ask the TIs their thoughts on electromagnetic radiation affecting their mind: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/foru...ed-Individuals

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    Default Re: TRUTH ABOUT MAGNETIC SHIELD CLOTHING-Snake Oil. Knowledge is power

    Quote Posted by Hatemachines (here)
    I think the poster in that thread was referring to the screening/blocking of electro-magnetic radiation(EMF) coming from cell-phone towers, wi-fi sources and smart meters in your home.
    This is pulsed energy that some people are highly sensitive to and for them it really has health benefits to use this mesh material as it effectively blocks out/reduces this hazardous radiation.

    It doesn't screen from magnetic fields, as hardly anything effectively does, but (weak)magnetic fields is not the element of this EMF radiation that makes people sick.
    Infact, magnetic fields can help repair the body.
    Pretty much my thoughts Hatemachine.

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    Default Re: TRUTH ABOUT MAGNETIC SHIELD CLOTHING-Snake Oil. Knowledge is power

    I am here to help YOU and everyone else. The TI are exactly what I am talking about but you guys just don't hear it. If you guys don't want to listen that is your choice but I am giving you the knowledge of my very own experience. I didn't just read about it somewhere.

    If you hold a highly conductive material product close to your body it is like a magnifying glass protecting you from sunlight. Electricity flows through the path of least resistance but magnetic fields permeate around them. If you want to buy this go right ahead, I encourage you to. I have been asking Albert Einstein but what did he know. I have been measuring the magnetic fields with magnetometers but those probably don't know what they are doing. And the mathematical calculations with professors from MIT are probably just cool little squiggly pictures.

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    Default Re: TRUTH ABOUT MAGNETIC SHIELD CLOTHING-Snake Oil. Knowledge is power

    Off topic; How does a thread become a poll. Does the poster chooses so or is it the mod?

    there are very popular threads about radio signal shielding here on Avalon. particularly if the poster claim to have lots of qualification or that its based on a long term and expensive research; open book with foil facing somewhere, bricks etc.. I was once a fan. Until I finally decided to use common sense and realize how gullible I was. If you want to test the efficiency of the product claim. just wrap your cellphone into that material and call it. If it responds then you have a fake shield. And this TI thing, How do you send signal to a chosen individual with out sending it to the others when radio signal propagation go out in all direction like a sphere? you need a concentrator. similar to loud speaker which is made of material that bounces the sound to one direction only that it has a very small opening that if you peep through it you only see the brain of the TI from the cellphone tower and it has to move to follow every movement of the TI every moment, to be effective. Im not an electronics expert. but really all we need is the courage to use our senses common sense primarily to verify this so called long term research with million dollar budget and conducted by big gun scientist. thats what school is all about, to convince us to listen and believe those craps and discourage us from using common sense.
    Then of course when life becomes unbearable everyone becomes a TI and will be wearing expensive shielding material when the problem is somewhere else waiting for an appropriate solution. but if you really are convince that you are a TI, all you need to do is throw away that electronics device in your pocket because that's the easiest route to your brain and not the the towers which I have seen posted here a number of times,
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    Default Re: TRUTH ABOUT MAGNETIC SHIELD CLOTHING-Snake Oil. Knowledge is power

    Aloha Bubu,

    I agree with you 100%! The poll was my choice. I am new here and decided to try it out. I'm not sure if mods ever create polls.

    I haven't seen any of the other posts here, all of what I write about is based on my own experimentation and calculations with the help of professional mathematicians. I am a shark researcher by trade and since they read magnetic fields naturally I have experimented with them for over 10 years. I have been in their presence in their natural environment for well over 5,000 hours but the numbers and time don't really matter. What really matters is that I have actually done the measurements and calculations while most people just read about it or watch YouTube videos.

    I have turned down funding from big companies because they want to change the goal of my research. All of them want to develop a product to repel sharks to make money. Whereas the goal of my research is to better understand magnetic fields. So my research doesn't have a hidden agenda or driven by money. I have even performed experiments done by Nikola Tesla and Ed Leedskalnin.

    Based on my knowledge, the shielding is not what it says. I see it as walking around wearing flypaper to repel flies. We know that ambient magnetic fields are all around us but work better when they find a conductor. Just like a radio that picks up radio waves. It uses copper wire to amplify the signals once tuned into that specific frequency. And this shielding material uses silver which conducts electric and magnetic fields even better due to atomic structure. So I am right there with you on not buying into this "Snake Oil".

    The TI thing for me seems to be quite interesting but don't put much into it either. They are people too so I can't change what they believe about what is going on there. And yes, you are correct about magnetic fields dispersing in a spherical manner but I found something extremely disturbing. It was a patent for a heart attack gun. You may still be able to find it. It worked like a jet engine and focused magnetic fields on a single point. It was amazing technology that I think could be put to much better use somehow but instead the military and many other "organizations" use microwave technology to cook people at a distance. I'm sure you can find this out there somewhere. They use a shield looking dish to focus microwaves into a single point just like a magnifying glass.

    I'm not saying that this is what is being used on TI but it that knowledge makes me not discount their stories so quickly. You hit the nail on the head with throwing out those cell phones. My other thread about sharks and magnetic fields refers to measurements that I made on cell phones. The radio towers do emit a measurable RF but the cell phones are amplifiers and affect human blood. I am comfortable being a dinosaur and I do not use a cell phone myself. There was a response to the thread where someone placed a flip phone in a microwave and tried to call it but it did not work but then they placed a smart phone in the microwave and it rang when they called it. I am not a microwave expert but I know smart phones emit a field 3X the size of flip phones so my guess as to why that happened was the microwaves shielding was enough to block the weaker field but not the stronger one. And people hold that next to their heads everyday.

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    Default Re: TRUTH ABOUT MAGNETIC SHIELD CLOTHING-Snake Oil. Knowledge is power

    For those curious as to the supposed shielding materials for sale, here is a website (may not be the site referred to above)

    https://www.lessemf.com/

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    Default Re: TRUTH ABOUT MAGNETIC SHIELD CLOTHING-Snake Oil. Knowledge is power

    I am NOT trying to sell anything but people keep posting links for products to shield you from magnetic fields. So far I have only seen things claiming to use silver. Silver itself conducts magnetic fields much better than air so you would be far better off not wearing silver making the magnetic fields fight with the resistance of air rather than conducting itself through silver. If you MUST buy something, look into this mineral found in Russia, shungite, it is a realistic option for absorbing fields rather than conducting them. Lead does act similarly but it is radioactive. YES, LEAD IS RADIOACTIVE and enters the human body causing lead poisoning.

    https://world-of-shungite.com

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    Default Re: TRUTH ABOUT MAGNETIC SHIELD CLOTHING-Snake Oil. Knowledge is power

    Quote Posted by Bubu (here)
    Off topic; How does a thread become a poll. Does the poster chooses so or is it the mod?
    The person who creates the thread sets up the poll. For instructions on how to create one see Post #31.
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    Default Re: TRUTH ABOUT MAGNETIC SHIELD CLOTHING-Snake Oil. Knowledge is power

    Quote Posted by RMF808 (here)
    Lead does act similarly but it is radioactive. YES, LEAD IS RADIOACTIVE and enters the human body causing lead poisoning.

    https://world-of-shungite.com
    Lead is NOT radioactive - it is the product of decay reactions and IS a most stable form of a transuranic decay process - an end stable non-radio-active element.

    At this point you have proven to me your level of science is not beneficial to enlightening me in any useful way. It seems to me maybe you would want to look up radioactivity and decay chain if you want to share understandings about atomic reactions.

    At that point we could carry on a sensible discussion. DIS-information is not useful knowledge in my opinion and spreading disinformation is not beneficial in my opinion. Clearing up dis-information would be useful, as the thread title starts. YELLING on a thread TITLE is not useful and IS rude, you do know that don't you?

    ref: RUDENESS - http://www.wowhead.com/g00/forums&to....google.com%2F DONT POST thread titles in CAPS
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    Clearing up the dis-information posted - LEAD is the end result of a specific chain of radioactive decay, is no longer "radioactive" and is stable - https://chemistry.stackexchange.com/...minate-at-lead

    Other decay chains produce other elements - https://rais.ornl.gov/tools/chain.php

    If I have used a word series which you can't understand, "Decay Chain" - here is a simple understanding which may help enlighten - http://findwords.info/term/decay%20chain
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    Quote Posted by Bob (here)
    Quote Posted by RMF808 (here)
    Lead does act similarly but it is radioactive. YES, LEAD IS RADIOACTIVE and enters the human body causing lead poisoning.

    https://world-of-shungite.com
    ref: RUDENESS - http://www.wowhead.com/g00/forums&to....google.com%2F DONT POST thread titles in CAPS
    RUDENESS and POLICY - http://forums.joinsquad.com/notifica...follow_id=7359
    RMF808, I’d add that out of the 6 threads you’ve started, 5 of them in the last 3 days are in the “General” section. Please take the time to find the appropriate section and sub-sections.

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    Default Re: TRUTH ABOUT MAGNETIC SHIELD CLOTHING-Snake Oil. Knowledge is power

    Thanks Running Deer,

    Can I or should I move them? As you mentioned I am new here and would gladly wiggle in to the vibration.

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    Default Re: TRUTH ABOUT MAGNETIC SHIELD CLOTHING-Snake Oil. Knowledge is power

    Quote Posted by RMF808 (here)
    Thanks Running Deer,

    Can I or should I move them? As you mentioned I am new here and would gladly wiggle in to the vibration.
    Welcome to Avalon, RMF808.

    Administration will move them where you’d like. If you need help with the right fit, they can help. Or from here on out, take a few extra minutes to find the best section and sub-sections.

    Should you decide to move them, just send a PM. Some moderators are in training and I don’t know if they can help with that skill. For sure these mods can move them: Bill Ryan; Paul; Sierra; Hervé.

    In case you are not familiar with how to send a PM…click on “notifications” found at the top right. Then click on “Send New Message” found on the left side. Then click on the moderators name(s).

    Thanks for understanding, RMF808.

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