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    Quote Posted by Malgorzata (here)
    Just a strange question perhaps....but did you notice that Daniel Liszt doesn´t blink in his videos? It is very difficult not to do that during a long time, especially when you speak. It was pointed out to me yesterday and I went to see the videos myself and yes... ! Has anyone else noticed that? And why do you think that might be?

    I am posting his recent video here...byt the way, very interesting! It is an interview with someone who has participated in Corey Goode´s events.
    Malgorzata, you may be interested in the video that Callista posted. Daniel Liszt is a guest with a more natural exchange. The Corey Goode/David Wilcock topic comes up a little after 28 minutes.

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    Sometimes I wonder about the domino effect, and wish I never mentioned any blue avians to begin with. The world would have been spared of the two-legged blue cocks.

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    For those who don´t know me, and that would be 99% of you in here, I run a Youtube Channel in Spanish where I make videos about these kinds of subjects, and right now I am doing the summary of the information that comes out in the English speaking world for the Spanish audience since, as you may know or may not know, Corey Goode has huge following in the Spanish speaking countries. I recently uploaded the summary of Bill Ryan´s interview with Daniel Liszt and now I am making a summary of Daniel´s series. I make it in Spanish but here I am sharing with you the video I just uploaded, the intro to the summary of Daniel Liszt´s series, which I made English subtitles to. I am making some clarifications about some most typical objections I hear. There are so many naive people within the Spanish audience.

    Greetings to all of you, free thinkers!
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    If you really want to expose him, check the plagarism of Dianne Robbin's book.
    Would you please enlighten us and expand upon this topic? Thank you.

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    Wishing you all the best on your "mission", Malgorzata, & glad you are taking this upon yourself to do so!

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    Am I the only person who suspects that all Corey's accidents could simply be caused by excessive alcohol or drug intake? I don't understand why a greatly enlightened soul like Corey would need to dull his mind and body with alcohol and drugs, but I guess it is hard being the world's savior.

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    Very instructive article and sooooo true.

    i am so happy that such articles are now surfacing. 15 years ago, when I was researching sociopath and narcissists, there was about nothing on the web or in books. Now we can read and comprehend.

    The difficult point for layman and ordinary good folks is to accept to change their beliefs systems and integrate the fact that psychopaths have no heart whatosoever, that they be a serial killer or a high level CEO, they just do not care about people and their inner measure of success is how many people they conned and how much money they made from it (in the end, how much power they have, since it gives them thrill, compensating for the true emotions they do not have, like most humans).

    Please, integrate in your beliefs system that they do exist, and that you do no know someone who is psychopath (4% of the population).

    Quote Posted by Dylansdad (here)
    I offer this article on sociopaths without comment, except that posting this in a Corey Goode thread speaks for itself.

    http://www.naturalnews.com/036112_so...nfluence.html#
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    Malgorzata, you should upoad and translate in Spanish the excellent article about psychopaths that Dylansdad has put up. This, all Central/South America, having been Under the spell of dictatorships and psychopaths, would understand. My opinion. Thanks for the excellent work, I did listen to the video you made.

    Quote Posted by Malgorzata (here)
    For those who don´t know me, and that would be 99% of you in here, I run a Youtube Channel in Spanish where I make videos about these kinds of subjects, and right now I am doing the summary of the information that comes out in the English speaking world for the Spanish audience since, as you may know or may not know, Corey Goode has huge following in the Spanish speaking countries. I recently uploaded the summary of Bill Ryan´s interview with Daniel Liszt and now I am making a summary of Daniel´s series. I make it in Spanish but here I am sharing with you the video I just uploaded, the intro to the summary of Daniel Liszt´s series, which I made English subtitles to. I am making some clarifications about some most typical objections I hear. There are so many naive people within the Spanish audience.

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    If you really want to expose him, check the plagarism of Dianne Robbin's book.
    Would you please enlighten us and expand upon this topic? Thank you.

    Dianne Robbins.
    That would be this book:

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    Quote Posted by Kristin (here)
    Quote Posted by Daozen (here)


    If you really want to expose him, check the plagarism of Dianne Robbin's book.
    Would you please enlighten us and expand upon this topic? Thank you.
    https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_n...ADianne+Robbin

    Lots of books about the Hollow Earth and contact with inner-civilizations.

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    Quote Posted by Daozen (here)


    If you really want to expose him, check the plagarism of Dianne Robbin's book.
    I've read four books by Dianne Robbins:
    • HollowEarth
    • Telos
    • Tree Talk
    • Cetacean
    It's been awhile. (2011) I don't recall blue Avians or bubbles in space. In fairness, I haven't followed Corey's travels enough to compare to Dianne Robbins material.

    The summer of 1986, I wrote a novel that came from power naps, reflections and pictures that floated across my mind. It was before I had a quality computer, which came from "Radio Shack" and it held no data. So, I backed up my work onto a tape recorder that converted the computer language on to it.

    It’d be years later when I came upon Diane Robbins' material and saw similarities to what I wrote. Whether it was past life recall, downloads or what… (one can only speculate).
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    Quote Posted by Dylansdad (here)
    I offer this article on sociopaths without comment, except that posting this in a Corey Goode thread speaks for itself.

    http://www.naturalnews.com/036112_so...nfluence.html#
    Here's a woppa to contemplate. Think of it on a big societal scale not just as a backward reflection on some sicko behind bars.

    Quote #10) Sociopaths are delusional and literally believe that what they say becomes truth merely because they say it!
    Errr.. don't we hear a lot about this kind of thing in the new age scene?
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    "Sociopaths are masters are presenting themselves as heroes with high morals and philosophy, yet underneath it they are the true criminal minds in society who steal, undermine, deceive, and often incite emotional chaos among entire communities. They are masters at turning one group of people against another group while proclaiming themselves to be the one true savior. Wherever they go, they create strife, argument and hatred, yet they utterly fail to see their own role in creating it. They are delusional at so many levels that their brains defy logical reasoning."

    http://www.naturalnews.com/036112_so...nfluence.html# I agree, really great article!
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    Sorry guys .. but the original argument is bonkers. Should I trust Bill Ryan saying he knows some guys on the forum who know a LOT of geeky, cool, computer stuff and said Corey Goode is not a pro IT guy ... or check out the professional Linked.In CV of Corey Goode.
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/corey-goode-7024621/

    I used to respect Bill Ryan for all the work he did with the original interviews around 2008 .. but spewing envy on someone else without checking few actual facts, like work history in the IT field is just wrong. Even if the rest of the arguments may hold water, this shallow background check is just not acceptable.
    It is also perfectly possible to be relatively ignorant in one IT field (let's say C++ programming) and be an expert in Cisco .. you would know that .. if you stopped thinking about IT as 'lots of geeky, cool computer stuff'

    I don't even know what to think about Corey Goode.. but if I have to choose whether to rely on the 3rd party opinion of Bill & Kerry vs David Wilcock .. I will pick Wilcock any given day due to the simple fact he is able to perform an actual data analysis based on fact... something like this: http://exopolitics.org/hoax-investig...grams-exposed/
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    My personal opinion is that there is no "envy" involved here....we each have to judge for ourselves.

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    Sorry guys .. but the original argument is bonkers. Should I trust Bill Ryan saying he knows some guys on the forum who know a LOT of geeky, cool, computer stuff and said Corey Goode is not a pro IT guy ... or check out the professional Linked.In CV of Corey Goode.
    https://www.linkedin.com/in/corey-goode-7024621/

    I used to respect Bill Ryan for all the work he did with the original interviews around 2008 .. but spewing envy on someone else without checking few actual facts, like work history in the IT field is just wrong. Even if the rest of the arguments may hold water, this shallow background check is just not acceptable.
    It is also perfectly possible to be relatively ignorant in one IT field (let's say C++ programming) and be an expert in Cisco .. you would know that .. if you stopped thinking about IT as 'lots of geeky, cool computer stuff'

    I don't even know what to think about Corey Goode.. but if I have to choose whether to rely on the 3rd party opinion of Bill & Kerry vs David Wilcock .. I will pick Wilcock any given day due to the simple fact he is able to perform an actual data analysis based on fact... something like this: http://exopolitics.org/hoax-investig...grams-exposed/
    If you'd picked a Wilcock contribution...........

    Salla shuffles into place and waves his UN pass and takes aim:


    Quote Hoax Secret Space Program Investigation Exposed by Documents & IT Experts


    Daniel Liszt, founder of the Dark Journalist website, has published eight videos to date that have been highly critical of Corey Goode’s claims of being a secret space program whistleblower, and having been chosen as a delegate for a group of extraterrestrials he calls the Sphere Being Alliance. Liszt’s “impartial” investigation questions the credibility of Goode as a witness, and promotes the view that Goode is a pathological liar that has contrived his testimony.

    Documents and expert witness statements included in this article is conclusive evidence proving Goode’s professional background in the Information Technology (IT) industry, and his credibility as an IT consultant prior to his emergence as a whistleblower in 2014. Liszt’s exclusion of these documents and failure to obtain any professional IT recommendations in his “impartial” investigation cast considerable doubt on his claim of being an investigative journalist seeking the truth about Goode’s testimony.

    In the first four videos of his series, Liszt presents and endorses the views of Project Avalon Founder, Bill Ryan, that Goode fabricated his background as an Information Technology (IT) consultant who earned a six figure salary during his career. According to Ryan and Liszt, Goode’s claims that he was deprived of a well-paying IT career after being involuntarily outed as a secret space program whistleblower in 2014/2015 is contrived.

    In particular, Ryan asserts that Goode was not an IT expert, and cites several sources in his three part interview with Liszt supporting his conclusion. In his initial article that gained Liszt’s interest and support, Ryan wrote:

    Ilie Pandia (who, like Paul, knows a LOT of technical, geeky stuff about computers and the net) then looked closely at some of his statements, and raised a flag that there was absolutely NO WAY he was an ‘IT expert’ as he had claimed. That simply wasn’t true. This was the first time we’d realized there was a definite, proven, problem, and that Corey had been lying about his expertise. (Claims about expertise can of course only be refuted by someone who really is an expert.)

    Ryan’s italicized last sentence is very revealing. He refers to two individuals, presumably Project Avalon forum members who know “a LOT of technical, geeky stuff about computers and the net,” who pass judgement on Goode’s alleged IT expertise. There is a major assumption here by Ryan that his two sources are bona fide IT experts – which is not shown to be the case – and since they find problems with Goode’s statements, Ryan reaches the conclusion that Goode had been lying about his IT expertise.

    This immediately raises the question of fact checking whether there are documents and IT experts who can corroborate Goode’s claims of working in the industry. As we will find out, Ryan ignores evidence suggesting this, as does Liszt who does not bother to investigate such evidence in his “impartial investigation” into Goode.

    Finally, Ryan furthermore reached the conclusion that Goode, who was unemployed and on medication at the time of two interviews with Ryan’s ex-wife, Christine Anderson, in 2014, was desperate for funds and wholly contrived his whistleblower testimony to raise money from a gullible public.


    Liszt accepted all of Ryan’s conclusions without any qualification, and gave them his imprimatur as a major revelation after completing his interview series with Ryan using sensational headlines such as “Bill Ryan Exposes Corey Goode: The Facts!” and “Secret Space Psyops: Celebrity Whistleblowers!” Liszt has since gone on to publish four more videos attacking some of Goode’s key supporters and volunteers. In his eight part video series to date, Liszt presents himself as a bona fide journalist conducting an impartial investigation into Goode’s claims in order to learn the truth.

    Liszt asserts that his series exposes a major deception that is being conducted on the UFO community by Goode and supporters who wish to undermine legitimate research into the existence of secret space programs:


    The secret space program narrative is being contaminated by what looks like a psychological operation meant to discredit this worthy research.

    Liszt’s video series has certainly gained much attention since his supporters and many viewers believe he is conducting an impartial investigation into Goode’s SSP claims. However, there are major problems with Liszt’s investigation in terms of available public documentation that refute key claims made by Ryan that Goode contrived his background as an IT consultant earning a six figure salary.

    In reviewing documents and recommendations available on Goode’s LinkedIn page, one reaches a very different conclusion to that reached by Ryan, who consulted two alleged IT savvy individuals. Liszt then uncritically accepted this information as fact.

    The available documents show that Goode did indeed work in the IT industry as a consultant, that he was highly regarded in the industry as an expert who was given several awards. Importantly, his resume shows professional appointments and skills that would qualify him for the six figure salaries that Goode claims to have earned from his IT consulting career.

    What is extraordinary in reviewing Liszt’s eight videos is that he did not once refer to any of these documents, nor did he approach any of the companies that Goode claims to have worked for, which are clearly listed in his resume that is available online. Nor did Liszt attempt to contact independent third parties, IT experts, who publicly recommended Goode for work in the IT industry.

    This is despite the fact that Ryan himself refers in his initial critique about the importance of consulting IT experts in assessing Goode’s claims. Even though Ryan referred to two sources to refute Goode’s claims, Liszt did not deem it worthy of exploring whether they were indeed IT experts, as Ryan assumes, and whether or not there were genuine experts supporting Goode’s competence as an IT consultant.

    Furthermore and most critically, Liszt did not contact Goode for clarification on his IT background in order to properly assess this vital aspect of Goode’s work history, and his credibility, given Ryan’s claim that Goode was “lying about his expertise”.

    This lack of basic investigatory rigor into Goode’s work history and qualifications casts serious questions on Liszt’s impartiality and professional integrity in investigating Goode’s claims. Liszt’s acceptance of Ryan’s conclusion that Goode is a “pathological liar” on multiple issues, which includes his work history, appears to be an a prior assumption Liszt has adopted that underlies his entire investigatory series.

    At this stage it is important to review documents and recommendations by third parties that are all publicly available for independent review when it comes to Goode’s career as an IT consultant.

    His resume shows a series of positions he has held as an IT consultant for various companies up to late 2013. For example, from July to Oct 2013, he worked as a Systems Engineer at Darling International Inc., in Irving Texas where he provided support in Microsoft (vmWare, Citrix and VEEAM) software systems.
    Immediately prior, from April to June 2013, Goode worked at Hilton Worldwide as a consultant in Citrix and other computer systems. He gained the position through Robert Half Technology which is a recruiter in the IT sector with approximately 5000 to 10,000 employees.

    Goode’s resume goes on to detail his IT work history all to way back to 1995, when from August to January 1998, he worked on the Help Desk of Stream International in the Dallas/Fort Worth Area giving Microsoft Support.

    Goode has supplied documents showing the acknowledgements he received in various jobs. These include AmerisourceBergen Speciality Group where he worked from March 2006 to July 2008 in Frisco, Texas. His main responsibility was “Application Support Engineer,” where he says he “Maintained the Web Server environment & troubleshoot Application issues via log files, configuration files, SQL queries & IIS & Server Configuration\Event monitoring tools.”

    Goode supplied the following document which is a June 7, 2007 letter of recognition for his first year of service from Dale Danilewitz, the Chief Information Officer at AmerisourceBergen. Regarding Goode’s IT work, Danilewitz says in his typed letter: “Your work has contributed significantly to the success of AmericsourceBergen Speciality Group, and we are pleased to have you as a member of our team”
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    Default Re: The Truth about Corey Goode

    I also want to mention this. Long before Daniel started to bring up Corey Goode and the Blue Avain theme, it was and has been discussed by many great researchers as a complete sham in various forms.

    Starting his series with Bill Ryan was natural as this is where Corey Goode and his Blue Avain theme for profit began.

    I also have a feeling we will be seeing many more come out and speak up besides Bill Ryan and several already have.

    So Michael Salla has painted himself in a corner of the UFO and SSP disclosure where this whole subject is concerned. As he said...He's "committed" himself. He had no choice but to back this game
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    Default Re: The Truth about Corey Goode

    I think DJ may have "jumped the shark" with respect to the claims of satanic influence or rituals. I honestly don't care what he is involved with in his spare time. I also think it's incorrect.

    I don't support one word of CG, but let's please keep the arguments sane...

    Also, BR is being targeted for "outing" CG. It's more of this that we need to purge the slime in New Age, if they want to try and take over Ufology.

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    Default Re: The Truth about Corey Goode

    Quote Posted by TheChosen (here)
    I don't even know what to think about Corey Goode.
    Well, then, you've maybe not been paying much attention.

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    Default Re: The Truth about Corey Goode

    First point: you can show me documents explaining how you are fluent in French; I only need to get you to open your mouth to prove those documents false. Anything you say, write or do, is loaded with collateral information of this kind. Ilie and Paul are forum administrators who keep this site running and safe against more than normal threats, and as such are proven IT experts. It would be simple for them to recognize who they are dealing with.

    Second point: Michael Salla needs to quote the paragraph immediately preceding the IT discussion. In it Bill says the following:

    Quote He sent some messages in the middle of the night, that he denied any knowledge of. Our very strong (unproven) suspicion was that he had indeed sent them, but had done so in an altered or split-minded state, and in the morning had no memory of what he’d done, though everything was there on his own computer and that of another person.
    My point would be that, when dealing with someone prone to such split-minded states, it would be very possible for an IT specialist to be restricted to one such state, a relative dummy to another and a total dummy to a third. Setting the question of culpable sociopaths vs mind-controlled beings to one side, with such slippery customers, it is impossible to make a statement that is going to be valid across the board. There may very well be a side to Corey Goode that was totally cut off from Bill Ryan and the Avalon staff.

    This merely leads to one conclusion, namely that personal integrity is impossible for anyone prone to split-minded states, even though it is no fault of their own. Integrity simply means that there is only one and the same person at home, whatever the time of day or circumstance. The fact that this is not the case – with respect not only to the points disputed by Michael Salla, but a whole lot of other stuff as well – disqualifies Corey Goode from playing any influential role in anything at all, with the exception of matters addressing his condition.

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