The Mantis Alien (Insectalin) Hybridization Agenda

[Spiral]

I have had direct experience of mantids & reptilians were always present, I think they have different roles or areas of expertise (that may overlap in the medical area), I don't think for one minute that they are at the "top" or are in charge, the big Dracos with wings are way above them.

I think the mantids area of expertise is that of the "mind", or rather our ontological terrain, they like to play with it & inject things, Simon Parkes as mentioned previously could have been used by them to sow all kinds of things into peoples minds....which will in some way effect our reality one way or another, what with it being plastic & dependent on our beliefs.

[Bubu]

Posted by Spiral (here)
the big Dracos with wings are way above them.

This ones maybe
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/Ci...ncia_adn12.htm

[turiya]

Posted by Foxie Loxie (here)
Good to hear someone else is suspicious of SP.

Chris Thomas: Insect ET Alien Beings?
"They Do Not Exist"
(Published on July 29, 2017)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=C1vUhER5qBg

MILABs would no doubt dispute this.

[findingneo]

Thank you Onawah for your reply. I have no idea if there are positive Reptillians out there or not, but I want to talk about it because being prevented is odd. I especially like talking about things that folks have blocks on. Like when someone is questioned on a vital point, or the crux of the matter and the person being questioned answers but not by answering the question, they dance around it and are distracted, without at all realizing they are point blank avoiding the question. Unless the person answering the questions are tenacious (like Kerry Cassidy), the crux of the matter is avoided and the subject goes off on tangents. In other cases, by other people interviewing other interviewees, the host is the one that sabotages the answer. Something mind blowing is starting to come from an interviewee, and the interviewer completely white washes over it to some other more drab and insignificant point.

When an abductee is regressed, there are cover stories there. Dr David Jacob's writes, but common sense says he is going by research, not a desire to have a saviour come and upgrade us for our own good, and the pretty horrendous events that are remembered are not by an awfully nice bunch who actually are doing us a favour. I ask these questions because they are hard. I ask them because I feel like my mind is molasses and my thoughts are lost before I can hold them for long, so I write before I forget. I know something is amiss, and we are not meant to work it our or remember. To remember gives us so many more clues, and we just might work it out if that were to happen. What amazes me and I find it hard to keep hold of that thought, is that there are blatantly obvious things like this, that should be plastered everywhere here, and yet things of far less importance takes up our lives, even here, like a soap opera. Many,many people remember their past lives, or snippets, and yet it is relegated to that spot at the back of the cupboard where the old photographs are kept, and never looked at. Because when you do, you notice something you never did before, but it was always there. When doing a normal garden variety past life regression, not an abduction one where there are things to hide, it is easy to visit a past life and what went on. I have several I have been able to look up and verify details. One where my memory from Dejavu in a part of Scotland, I recall walking back to my base after a top secret mission, in the early hours, to this big, grand house. I felt as if I had just gotten out of a submarine, on the wrong side of Britain to Germany. I thought it silly but was impressed with my own imagination. That was pre internet, or at least before I had even clapped my eyes on the first rudimentary P.C. (Ok, so I am ancient). Move on 15 years, and I sporadically search online, not really expecting to find much. Don't find much, a year or two passes. I don't know the names of these places or I don't get an exact match from my searches. But then one day I do a wider search and I find that in that sea loch and valley is a grand house on the shores (Mind you there only a handful of houses in that valley), and one of them was made into a top secret base to train X Craft pilots and crew. But it was a house just down the road in this out of the way loch form the house I recognized as the place I lived in. As it happened, the training went on further down the dead end road maybe a couple of miles away and the mission was top secret, and this grand house was used as digs for those on that top secret mission. There is a wee bay (and currently subs docked in a larger stretch just a half mile from there) at the location where I felt we (me and two, maybe 3 others)were dropped off. The house being likely a 10(ish) minute walk from sub to house

Anyway, brain fog taking over. Will return later. I get you and I value your clarity, but we are all being messed with I think. Will continue when i can remember. Anyway, it is something about the importance of hearing what peoples memories are in past lives as other species. This will give us a significant clue about souls. Also it will give more clarity/detail about the inter dimensional side of reality. I can't focus. feel like my words are jumbling. I do recall an attack last year where there was an attempt to control me but I got away. All in my sleep. Sounds silly. Maybe I just need a coffee. Maybe that is how we are all controlled. We get foggy and feel silly. The narrative should have been covered way before I got here? Those at the center of this discussion? The neg "R" word? Who is listening and how? Because they are inter dimensional?

[findingneo]

Hey Turiya,

Insect ET Alien Beings?
"They Do Not Exist.........................................................not in terms of the consciousness of a human being. The guy on the video does not say they do not exist, but that "not in terms of the consciousness (consciousness) of a human being.

[Callista]

When posing the question as to whether one ET race or another is benevolent or not, we need to ask ourselves:

"Is Humanity benevolent or malevolent?"

The answer cannot be a generalisation of "yes" or "no", because we will get different answers depending on whether we are considering the example of the life of Hitler or the life of Ghandi...

You will never produce an answer that satisfies everyone, because the conditions and experiences are subjective.

So my advice (for what its worth) is to go with your own experiences and your own gut instinct in every situation, because each situation is different. In the end you have to take responsibility for your own choice in any given matter.

[7alon]

Posted by findingneo (here)
Hi 7alon, do you ever wake up in the morning and have spots of blood on the sheets or pillow, or any marks, bruises or pin pricks on your body? Do certain areas of your body feel a bit odd? And can I ask if it is ok, why you chose an owl as your avatar? Just tell me straight if I am being too intrusive. Sorry if so. Thanks for sharing the above. Very interesting just how many people experience stuff. P.S. Love your choices of emojis.

I'm more than happy to discuss it via PM. I don't want to stray off topic, that's all

[findingneo]

No problem 7alon, Thank you. If you send me a PM I will keep an eye out for it.

[Omni]

"It is difficult to understand the universe if you only study one planet." ~Samurai Warrior Miyamoto Musashi

[Star Tsar]

My brain has problems getting around this concept!
Humans & Insects are just so different from a biological perspective, breathing through skin, no brain.
I just can't see how the two would be compatible & we must remember they may not even be "alien", Insects where on this planet before us after all!

[Spiral]

Posted by Star Tsar (here)
My brain has problems getting around this concept!
Humans & Insects are just so different from a biological perspective, breathing through skin, no brain.
I just can't see how the two would be compatible & we must remeber they may not even be "alien" insect where on this planet before us after all!

They probably aren't insects at all, they just look like gigantic praying mantis's to those who have seen them.

[Foxie Loxie]

findingneo....just wondering if you have ever checked out the work of George Kavassilas or Robert Stanley? Most interesting!

[turiya]

The more complete statement is:

"Well, if you think of every thing as energy... A soul is a lump of energy, basically, which is humanoid in form. So, the basic form of a soul is human. And that applies to pretty much every race throughout the Universe.

As much as there's interest in to think of, perhaps, there's insect higher life out there - they don't exist. Not in terms of the consciousness potential of, let's say, a human being."

In other words, certainly insect life exists. But to think that insects have the potential of achieving the consciousness level of a human being - that is not going to happen. You are not going to have an insect reach the the same level of awareness of that of a human being. Sorry, you can disagree with that if you like, but that is not what CT is saying.

Certainly, the deep-state black-ops SSP guys may attempt to construct a "programmable biological life-form" that can appear as a Mantid, a Reptilian, or a six-foot tall Ant - sure! And then, have it enter into the bedroom of a human being & play a part in a military abduction scenario, or program / brainwash an abducted individual into believing that a Mantid being is their 'real' mother. Sure, that is entirely possible. People are capable of believing in anything that is fed into their brains. But to have an insect attain the consciousness level of a human being - this is just not going to happen. Period.

That's why I've included in that post #23 that MILABs would probably disagree with what CT has stated. Milabs are part of diabolical experiments that are being done to them by some very sick-minded people.

You have every right to believe in whatever you would like. Be my guest.

Posted by findingneo (here)
Hey Turiya,

Insect ET Alien Beings?
"They Do Not Exist.........................................................not in terms of the consciousness of a human being. The guy on the video does not say they do not exist, but that "not in terms of the consciousness (consciousness) of a human being.

I have been reading john DeSouzas book, The Extradimensionals. He talks about the created species by powerful advanced alien species. Because they are not created by the Creator Source , but by advanced ET created by the Creator Source, with huge abilities, they do not have a soul as we know it. It has some features of a soul, but will cease to exist when that creature dies, unlike the human soul which will eventually make it's way back to source like salmon up a river. These beings may have very long life spans, but want the immortality that we have. We have short lives but immortal souls. So what he means by, "They do not exist, not in terms of the consciousness of a human being", that is what he will mean. This is apparently why we are inferior and superior. Our physical body is short lived with lots of faults and frailties, but our soul lives on. Their non source made bodies live a long time are strong with magnificent abilities, but cease to exist when the body eventually dies. (As a side note, they want want we have, eternal souls and that is a big reason why we are being messed with).

[Spiral]

Posted by turiya (here)

The more complete statement is:

"Well, if you think of every thing as energy... A soul is a lump of energy, basically, which is humanoid in form. So, the basic form of a soul is human. And that applies to pretty much every race throughout the Universe.

As much as there's interest in to think of, perhaps, there's insect higher life out there - they don't exist. Not in terms of the consciousness potential of, let's say, a human being."

In other words, certainly insect life exists. But to think that insects have the potential of achieving the consciousness level of a human being - that is not going to happen. You are not going to have an insect reach the the same level of awareness of that of a human being. Sorry, you can disagree with that if you like, but that is not what CT is saying.

Certainly, the deep-state black-ops SSP guys may attempt to construct a "programmable biological life-form" that can appear as a Mantid, a Reptilian, or a six-foot tall Ant - sure! And then, have it enter into the bedroom of a human being & play a part in a military abduction scenario, or program / brainwash an abducted individual into believing that a Mantid being is their 'real' mother. Sure, that is entirely possible. People are capable of believing in anything that is fed into their brains. But to have an insect attain the consciousness level of a human being - this is just not going to happen. Period.

That's why I've included in that post #23 that MILABs would probably disagree with what CT has stated. Milabs are part of diabolical experiments that are being done to them by some very sick-minded people.

You have every right to believe in whatever you would like. Be my guest.

I really don't get why you constantly muddy the ufo / abductee field with channeled "material" & making statements of fact about subjects that are 90%+ BS like the SSP, and what the possibility of other lifeforms are, on which NO ONE has much info at all, least of all some youtuber.

"Milabs" is another subject you seem to love posting the most spurious of "material" on as well, milabs in relation to abductees are when people who are abducted by non humans are then abducted by some secret (earth) human group who then try to get any & all information they can, primarily on beings like Reptilians & Mantids, which they would hardly be doing if such being were in fact "bio robots" made by the self same humans (lol) .

The only real claim of bio robots was made by Barry King, and that was a type of grey only, of such claims not much proof or believable corroborating evidence or witnesses have come to light.

As for milabs being the product of sick minded people, I think you are confusing mind control programs with abductees, it's another subject altogether & a totally different bunch of people, the abductee milab people have some degree of compassion for abductees*, after all they have some things in common & have the clearest picture of what is really going on.

* They at least made certain that they took enough precautions to minimise PTSD & cogitative dissonance for me, which I greatly appreciate.

Belief has nothing to do with it for those of us with skin in the game, it's all too real FYI.

[Foxie Loxie]

Spiral....did your experiences start when you were a child? Those of us who have never had any cannot really speak to this issue!

[turiya]

Posted by Spiral (here)
I really don't get why you constantly muddy the ufo / abductee field with channeled "material" & making statements of fact about subjects that are 90%+ BS like the SSP, and what the possibility of other lifeforms are, on which NO ONE has much info at all, least of all some youtuber.

"Milabs" is another subject you seem to love posting the most spurious of "material" on as well, milabs in relation to abductees are when people who are abducted by non humans are then abducted by some secret (earth) human group who then try to get any & all information they can, primarily on beings like Reptilians & Mantids, which they would hardly be doing if such being were in fact "bio robots" made by the self same humans (lol) .

The only real claim of bio robots was made by Barry King, and that was a type of grey only, of such claims not much proof or believable corroborating evidence or witnesses have come to light.

As for milabs being the product of sick minded people, I think you are confusing mind control programs with abductees, it's another subject altogether & a totally different bunch of people, the abductee milab people have some degree of compassion for abductees*, after all they have some things in common & have the clearest picture of what is really going on.

* They at least made certain that they took enough precautions to minimise PTSD & cogitative dissonance for me, which I greatly appreciate.

Belief has nothing to do with it for those of us with skin in the game, it's all too real FYI.

Sorry Spiral - didn't mean to get you so upset.
By 'muddy', you mean having a differing view & opinion than your own?

By stating "90% + BS" - its awfully hard to prove a negative.

Yes, "Milabs" is a subject of concern. Not just for me but for anyone that gets abducted & "played with" by the military - by people that are supposed to protect the citizenry. This would include cattle mutilations that had plagued a number of cattle ranchers throughout the Western U.S. in the recent past.

I would not say that Milabs are a 'product' of sick-minded people, but 'victims' of sick-minded people. The same kind of mind that loves to go to war to fill their pockets with the wealth they derive out of such nefarious mass-murdering agendas. The same kind of mind that had gathered together on Jekyll Island to plan their grand deception & scheme to extract vast amounts of wealth from innocent people. The same kind of mind that harvest organs from innocent men, women & children, to sell on the market place. The same mind that invades other countries with the agenda to extract resources, to guard poppy fields, and harvest 'black gold' from their countryside.

I don't think there is a difference.

Regarding Reptilians & Mantid alien beings, I have not seen any evidence that such creatures actually exist.
I have my doubts as to whether anybody can provide such evidence.

Sorry if you took offense to my skepticism. I am not alone in expressing such doubt.
I have my own way of separating fact from fiction.
I will try not to disturb you again.

Peace- out.

[turiya]

____________Late Add to the Above Post____________

Programmed Biological Life Forms

Posted by Spiral (here)
...The only real claim of bio robots was made by Barry King, and that was a type of grey only, of such claims not much proof or believable corroborating evidence or witnesses have come to light.

To finish up on this particular point regarding programmed biological enities... It is not only Barry King that has talked about this kind of possibility existing, there is also Linda Moulton Howe who discusses this very thing with Whitley Strieber in the following video... And, you can't get any more further out of "Muddy" than with these two UFOlogy researchers... Note: Published on Nov 16, 2013

Oh, and btw, Barry King had also mentioned a progammable biological life form that he said was Reptilian in appearance. And also, do you think these military black-ops, deep state sick-minded people are going to limit themselves manufacturing only gray beings? That may be a bit of a short-sighted way of thinking, if you would ask me... just saying...

Dreamland: After A 30 Year Silence, A Sheriff Tells
The Truth About Cattle Mutilations 9-27-2013


VIDEO

TRANSCRIPTION Starts @41:30:

__Linda Moulton Howe:__

"Between 2002-2013, in Argentina alone - its been going on in many parts of the world - but, in Argentina alone, the count [animal mutilations] now is estimated to be somewhere around 4,500 animals. In that decade, in Argentina - which matches what happenened in Canada & the United States in the 70's."

Whitley Strieber: How interesting. So, its moving around. Its like they work one area, then they move on and work another...

Let's talk a little bit about what this is... Because, what we can see of it is... material is being taken that is full of stem cells & sexual material. Another thing is that cattle are very close to human beings in their DNA make-up - surprising so...

Linda Moulton Howe: Only 4% difference.

Whitley Strieber: Now, if you were skilled, and had a little DNA & a lot from these animals, you might be able to build yourself a body that would work in our environment. And look pretty convincingly human - at least, if no one checked out its DNA.

Linda Moulton Howe: Or would look like the Gray androids....

I have talked with people in the human abduction syndrome long ago - 20 some years ago, who told me that the little grays with the big black eyes were constructed biological genetically engineered - 'android' - is correct, because they're biological, but they are doing robotic work => programmed <= like a computer for another intelligence. And that makes a great deal of sense to me, if you look back over the last 40-50 years, and you add to it this extremely important data point.

I did an interview about 5 years ago with a son of a man, his father, who had worked Wright-Patterson in 1947 in their medical unit. And that father was ordered by a general - at 2 o'clock in the morning, he was called at home, ordered to come in as soon as possible, and met two other surgeons. And, they were to an autopsy. The general did not say 'this is an extraterrestrial'. The general told the father,

"I want you to use this clip board." And handed it to him, with paper. And, "I want you to make a running stream of everything that you observe while the other two surgeons are doing this autopsy. This is extremely important."

The father stood on the wall opposite the two surgeons who first started arguing about whether they would first to a 'T' or a 'Y' cut to begin the autopsy - on clearly a non human - on their surgical table.

And, the first note that was made by the father was that 'when they finally decided & they brought the scalpel to the body of this extraterrestrial, and they began dragging the knife to make this cut, the knife wouldn't cut through anything... And, the knife actually hung up. The surgeon said, and the father noted down... "This is not tissue we are dealing with, here. This is some kind of fabric.

And the father told the son, who I did this amazing interview with - before the father died - the father had told the near the end of his life, that he was convinced, and so were his superiors, that this wasn't a leotard... because they ended up getting into the body... that the surface of this particular type [of being] was some sort of inorganic fabric on an organic being that they classified as an 'Android.'

That is, to me, one of the most important lens through which to look at this menagerie of what people call "the Grays."

[onawah]

Dr. Pete Peterson, at about 25 minutes into this interview, speaks of Insectoid ETs:
https://www.gaia.com/give/video?toke...3301mb8zoft97n
From this post: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1170578
(Possibly there will be a transcript as well).
update: He also expresses deep appreciation for the positively oriented Reptilians he has encountered.

[findingneo]

Hi Foxie Loxie,

Nice to meet you. I have not heard of George Kavassilas, I will check him out, but I talk to Robert Stanley on a fairly regular basis via email. Lovely chap. Thank You.

Just went and had a peek at George's site, yeh...nup. I am not fond of folk that only want money to share anything that they know. I did not find out a thing by looking at his page and he wants to be paid to give something I might just already have. But I can't find out, because he hoards it.Not my cup of tea.

Robert on the other hand, is a gem. Very willing to educate anyone. That is someone who genuinely wants to help humanity and not just look out for number one first like George is doing. Thanks Foxie Loxie for the thought though.

[Foxie Loxie]

Hello to you, findingneo! Sorry you couldn't check out the G. K. stuff. I don't follow him, personally, but really enjoyed the interviews of his that are available here on Avalon! I've only been gathering info for a little over two years, so am trying to sift through & figure out what the heck is REALLY going on! Guess we'll never know, but it's interesting to hear everyone's opinions & experiences! It seems to help in figuring out what has happened in one's own life!

What was YOUR Lightbulb Moment that got you to thinking "outside the box"?!!