Ancient Russia (Megaliths, Caves, Sacred Sites etc)

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Mammoth tusk; carved. Heights 117, 103, 100 mm.
Maltinsko-buretskaya Culture. 23 000 - 19 000 BP
Malta Site (Excavations of M.M. Gerasimov, 1928-1930), Siberia, the River Belaya, near Irkutsk, Russia
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Maybe for time measurement:


This is an odd object, somewhere between a spoon and a venus figure.


Plate, or buckle, magic token for the shaman?


A nice Necklace with an interesting thing on it. Galaxy? Ufo? Or just a bone to show the animals that he/her meant business?

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That´s a sketch of the original excavation site, no photos.




These next plate meight be some sort of calendar. We see spirals all over earth from ancient people.



This could be snakes or sperm ?


Mammoth tusk; carved, polished and engraved. 138 x 81 mm.
Mal'ta Site (excavations by M.M. Gerasimov, 1928-1930), Siberia, the River Belaya, near Irkutsk, Russia
Maltinsko-buretskaya Culture. 23 000 - 19 000 BP.






This tool from a reindeer-hunter settlement at Mal'ta in Siberia had a flint blade set into a reindeer antler handle. This was uncovered during the excavation of 1956, and is an extremely rare find.


Section of a house in Siberia, possibly similar to those at Buret', showing the corridor to the outside, and the fact that there were two modes of use, one for summer, and the other for winter, which cut down on the loss of heat from the building.

[uzn]

Here is some russian research about the "Spiral plate" and how it is an exact calendar. And some other things found there related to timetracking. I´ll post the link below but it´s in russian. The pictures bring the idea across quite well.











The russian link:
http://bekshok.blogspot.de/2013/09/blog-post.html

This here is from the Wolfcamp at Mezin roundabout 15000 BC.

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Amazing symmetry, logic defies a 'natural' explanation, thank you, we have definitely been 'pre-owned' by others who were obviously much more technologically advanced than us now.

[Tintin]

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Mal'ta, Height 42 mm, Width 8 mm




Height 44 mm.


Fragment of a mammoth tusk showing a mammoth.
Mammoth tusk; carved, polished and engraved. 83 x 32 mm
Maltinsko-buretskaya Culture. 23 000 - 19 000 BP
Malta Site (Excavations of M.M. Gerasimov, 1928-1930), Siberia, the River Belaya, near Irkutsk, Russia


They say these are birdcarvings. With the left one I am not so sure.



Now the first things that seem a bit strange. The Archeologists say these are stylised representations of birds. Some might look somewhat like birds but many don´t for me. And they made quite a lot of them.

Found during the excavations of 1956 - 1957, in the 'male habitat' areas, to the right of the fireplaces.
They are made of mammoth ivory and, although their dimensions are unequal - the largest measuring 150 mm, and the smallest 50 mm, they are, by their form and style, remarkably homogeneous. The head has an irregular rhomboid outline, pointed upward and reminiscent, both in its form and how it connects to the neck, of the head of a snake. It carries no figurative detail.

The last image here reminds me a little of what was thought to be an obstetric implement from Klaus Dona's equally remarkable catalogue of finds. This is a truly fantastic thread going on here. Are these images to be made available, or, already available maybe, in the Avalon Library?

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Posted by Tintin Quarantino (here)
Are these images to be made available, or, already available maybe, in the Avalon Library?

Don´t think so. But would be great. In the meantime I would advice everybody that is interested in the ancient world to copy the pictures locally. Since some of them are only up on one site or on one Pinterest account and could go down eventually.

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Posted by uzn (here)
These things were worn around the Neck in Perm Russia. Official called "Sun Symbols".

these "sun" symbols resemble to the theory described in this documentary:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=t7EAlTcZFwY

according to this, our sun might used to look quite different to how its being observed today.

[Morbid]

Posted by uzn (here)

I find some of them just a bit to perfect to be comforting


Lets draw the attention to the biggest Cave complex in Georgia. It´s basically a City in a mountain. In the middle ages an earthquake took down a lot of the fasade.
It´s called City Cave Vardzia. The History is very foggy. Mainstream Archeologists want to give the ehole credit to some middle aged Monks.
Wikipedia is not so sure:
Soviet-era excavations have shown that the area of Vardzia was inhabited during the Bronze Age and indicated the reach of Trialeti culture.
(Yeah thanks Wikipedia, that leaves us with the typical guess of about 3000 -1000 BC).

But that´s about it. Well of course these caves are ancient and have been reutilized in the middle ages as a Monostary. And they did some serious rechisseling and added a basilika in there. But the old smell and feel is all in there:













That is what the Monks used it for:
The greater Vardzia area includes also the early eleventh-century church at Zeda Vardzia and the tenth- to twelfth-century rock village and cave churches of Ananauri. The main lower site was carved from the cliff's central stratum of tufaceous breccia at an elevation of thirteen hundred metres above sea level. It is divided into an eastern and a western part by the Church of the Dormition. In the eastern part of the complex are seventy-nine separate cave dwellings, in eight tiers and with a total of 242 rooms, including six chapels, "Tamar's Room", a meeting room, reception chamber, pharmacy, and twenty-five wine cellars; 185 wine jars sunk into the floor document the importance of viticulture to the monastic economy. In the western part, between the bell tower and the main church, are a further forty houses, in thirteen tiers and with a total of 165 rooms, including six chapels, a refectory with a bakery, other ovens for baking bread, and a forge. Beyond the bell tower the complex rises to nineteen tiers, with steps leading to a cemetery. Infrastructure includes access tunnels, water facilities, and provision for defence

this was definitely the most beautiful site i have ever seen. located on the borderland with turkey. its believed that before the earthquake in twelth century that exposed the city there were only handful of entrances/exits - most of them hidden. the idea was to remain autonomous during siege. there is water well inside so once grain & sheep taken in, they could easily survive for upto a year. highly recommend traveling georgia - rent good off roader to visit less touristic sites. also there is mestia & ushguli (highest settlement in europe):

[Morbid]

here is another famous site in ural mountains - geographical border between europe & asia.

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Posted by Morbid (here)
here is another famous site in ural mountains - geographical border between europe & asia.

They are beautiful, I did not include them because they can be of natural origin. But surely were sacret for the ancient People.

Pillars of weathering Man-Pupu-Ner or the Seven Strong Men Rock Formations of the Komi Republic are a set of 7 gigantic abnormally shaped stone pillars located north of the Ural mountains in the Troitsko-Pechorsky District of the Komi Republic. These monoliths are real Stone wonders of Russia, around 30 to 42 m high.

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Strange (melted looking) stone found in chalk mine, 7 km away from Voronezh, russia





Source:
http://www.megaliths.org/view/915

This is a case for Herve. Natural?

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Meet the oldest found Geoglyph on this Earth, the "Elk (Moose)"-Geoglyph. (Geoglyph=image that can be seen from the sky)
The giant geoglyph, along with the megaliths, were constructed millennia before Peru's Nazca Lines and England Horse and People Geoglyths, a testament to the building progess of an ancient prehistoric culture in the Ural Mountains.



from the Siberian Times:
By Anna Liesowska
Children from lost civilisation 'helped build' geoglyph some 6,000 years ago
(as a wild Theory I prefer that Dwarfs, Greys or Little People did it to attract the attention of the spacefaring "Elk-people" )

Remarkable new details about giant moose released as archaeologists confirm stone structure is world's oldest.



Children were involved in the construction of a geoglyph in the Urals which was only discovered thanks to images taken from space. It predates Peru's famous Nazca Lines by thousands of years, archaeologists have announced. But they are no nearer answering why ancient man made it, nor can they yet fathom which group built the geoglyph; archeological traces found so far in the area do not show a culture with sufficient refinement. 
Was it to impress the gods or did it have some other purpose?
Experts have been examining the giant moose-shaped stone structure since it was discovered in 2011 and have now confirmed it is the world's oldest.
Located near Lake Zyuratkul in the Ural Mountains, it stretches for about 275 metres and depicts an animal with four legs, antlers and a long muzzle.
Two years ago researchers said they estimated the site could date back as far as 6,000BC based on the style of the stone-working, called lithic chipping.
Now new details about the geoglyph have been released as archaeologists revealed it was most likely created between 3,000 and 4,000BC.
The geoglyph was found in the Zyuratkul National Park, on terrace at an altitude of 860 metres.


There are stones layed in the Geoglyph.

Perhaps the most interesting development is that tools found at the site indicate it was worked on assiduously by children as well as adults in a large-scale community accomplishment. Of 155 tools found beside the geoglyph, the majority were used for digging or breaking stones.
Stanislav Grigoryev, a senior researcher from the Chelyabinsk History and Archaeology Institute, said: 'Judging by the different sizes of the tools - from 17cm-long and weighing about three kilograms to some being just two centimetres - we can assume they were used by both adults and children. We can also assume it means that everyone participated in creating the moose.
'But it was not a kind of slave labour of children. They were involved to share common values, to join something important to all the people.'
The moose was discovered by chance in 2011 by local researcher Alexander Shestakov after he spotted it trawling through satellite images from Google Earth.
He alerted archaeologists, who sent out a hydroplane and paraglider to survey the area, before the first expedition to the site was undertaken. The geoglyph was found 200km west of Chelyabink, in the Zyuratkul National Park, situated on terrace at an altitude of 860 metres.



Initial fieldwork found simple techniques were used to create the moose, with turf and earth 10-metres-wide dug out to make its shape before being filled with stones. 'The figure would initially have looked white and slightly shiny against the green grass background,' he said.
Different methods were deloyed to make the various parts of the geoglyph; for instance, a mix of clay and crushed stone was used to make the hooves. When part of the hind leg was excavated, archaeologists found the largest stones were on the edges, with the smaller ones inside. While there are similarities to the world famous Nazca Lines, in Peru, and to geoglyphs in England - such as the White Horse in Oxfordshire or the Dorset Giant - the experts believe there are no links.
Discovered in 1927, the Nazca Lines feature hundreds of lines, shapes and designs of animals, the earliest of which were created around 500BC. Instead, archaeologists say the Russian moose was drawn in a style similar to petroglyphs found in Finland. Excavations of nearby land could provide further clues as to its origins and to the people who made it. Radiocarbon dating has been carried out, narrowing down the period in which the geoglyph was created to between 3,000BC and 4,000BC, some 5,000 or 6,000 years ago.
But further testing is needed - for example optically-stimulated luminescence dating as well as pollen analysis - is planned.
Mr Grigoryev said: 'It may help if we find ceramics on the site. Ceramics could help us with the date and with understanding who these people were that created the geoglyph. It's not quite clear who the builders were. It is obvious that its creation has a big social importance. Geoglyphs are the symbols of unity'.
Yet archeologists still cannot fathom the identity of their sophisticated social group who worked in the massive operation of constructing structure visible from space.
'Facts say that on this territory in the Neolithic and Eneolithic Ages lived hunters and fishermen. We conducted archaeological works on the site of a settlement nearby, on the lake shore, on the assumption that the builders of the geoglyph might live there. People have lived here since the Neolithic era but there was no sign of large social structures, nor that they did anything other than hunting and fishing', Stanislav Grigoryev said.
'It puzzles me a lot, I keep thinking about the people that built the geoglyph, and their purpose'.



The research team found traces of two ancient fireplaces at the site of the moose, both used only once, possibly in a significant ritual. Despite many unanswered questions, Mr Grigoryev warned against future large scale excavation and said officials should consider preserving the sanctity of the site. At the moment it is the world's most ancient geoglyph, dating back to about 4,000BC.
'The geoglyphs in Nazca are younger as are those in the UK, though there might be some of comparable age in Britain. But at the moment Zyuratkul's is the most ancient, and is the world's largest figure image, but which we mean geometrical or zoomorphic figures, because there are very long lines in Nasca, and here we speak about the figure. So it's not the largest geoglyph, but the largest figure image.
'It could become a tourist attraction and with a museum, but we need to think how it might be implemented'.
An intriguing question is whether more geoglyphs will become visible as researchers analyse Google Earth in detail.
Some 50 geoglyphs with various shapes and sizes, including a massive swastika, were recently discovered across northern Kazakhstan. There is no doubting the excitement people feel from seeing the moose. Russian journalist Yevgeny Bezborodov, originally from Siberia, said: 'It's rare when you film something truly exclusive - and this is what we got in the South Urals'.

Source:
http://siberiantimes.com/science/cas...000-years-ago/

official government link:
http://eng.gubernator74.ru/moose-mos...geoglyph-earth

Local archaeological digs by the nearby lake found no evidence of a population likely to have built the moose.
‘People have lived here since the Neolithic era but there was no sign of large social structures, nor that they did anything other than hunting and fishing,’ Dr Grigoryev.

No-body knows why ancient people created the geoglyph which stretches for about 902 ft (275 metres). Theories include that it was used to worship gods, denote postcodes, or even attract Aliens.

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More ancient Geoglyph´s in Kazakhstan discovered by NASA.


X marks the spot of Ushtogaysky Square, the largest of Kazakhstan’s so-called Turgai geoglyphs. Each side of the Ushtogaysky Square measures about 274 meters (900 feet).
Photograph by NASA


The diameter of the Turgai swastika, above, is about 91 meters (300 feet). (The bent cross of a swastika is a design motif that stretches back millennia)
Photograph by NASA

Source:
https://blog.education.nationalgeogr...in-kazakhstan/

many more have been found:
a circle


a cross

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Utterly fascinating uzn. That table of symbols almost reminds of the cymatic images created by sound vibration:



https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/568227677955655627/

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The Patomskiy Crater

from HNGN (Headlines & Global News)

What Created Siberia's Strange 'Eagle's Nest'? Scientists Baffled At One Of World's Strangest Scientific Mysteries





One of the world's strangest scientific mysteries was discovered when a geologist stumbled across a massive mound 65 years ago, UK MailOnline reported.
Discovered in 1949, the site in Irkutsk, Siberia is a huge convex cone with a funnel-shaped recess and a rounded hill in the middle, which looks a little like an eagle's nest with an egg nestled inside it.
For decades, scientists have been baffled by the origin of the Patomskiy crater, which is named after a nearby river. The theories for its existence have ranged from a nuclear blast to a secret gulag mine and even a meteorite strike.
According to UK MailOnline, the current thinking is that the site was indeed created by a meteorite strike, but no evidence has been found to support the theory.
The cone is 80 meters tall and has a diameter of 150 meters at its widest. The depth of the inner circle ditch is around 10 meters.



Vadim Kolpakov, who discovered the crater, tried and failed to arrange a scientific trip to examine the site, but numerous expeditions have taken place since and samples were collected in 2013.
As there were not enough people living nearby when the crater is thought to have formed to create such a pile, theories that the mound is a giant slagheap have been thrown out.
And there were never labor camps or gulags in the region, UK MailOnline reported.
"Half a ton of samples were taken from the site and removed by helicopter last year," UK MailOnline reported. "The samples led scientists to dismiss ideas of a uranium ore explosion as the background radiation at the site is low and no uranium has been found nearby either."
This left them with two main theories - one of a volcano and another of a meteorite.
However, the mysterious site has not given up any meteoritic material and the area is not thought to be volcanic, UK MailOnline reported.
Within thousands of kilometers of the Patomskiy crater, there are no volcanoes and it also seems to be relatively new.
"Scientists thought the crater was only between 100 and 500 years old and could be the result of the Tunguska meteorite, which fell in the Krasnoyarsk region in 1908, but whose crater has never been discovered," UK MailOnline reported. "It is thought the meteorite was sighted just 70km away from the 'eagle's nest' and that distance is a mere 10 to 15 seconds of flight."
As the Tunguska event occurred in 1908, the age coincides, but modern tests have shown that the crater is actually 250 years old - so it could have been formed by a previous meteorite that fell when the area was virtually unpopulated.
Between 100 and 150 meters underneath the crater, scientists think that there is something buried with a high iron content and ferromagnetic materials.
Although they are not certain, they believe it could be a meteorite or another incredibly dense object.
The fact that the crater is 'alive' as its shape changes constantly - by rising and falling - and that the trees nearby the site are reported to grow abnormally fast, adds to the mystery, UK MailOnline reported.

Source:
http://www.hngn.com/articles/23946/2...one-worlds.htm

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ancient star forts. most likely pre-flud. some cities had these but just like in europe got built on top of over time..

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=p48plGpZrCY

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The cave city of Eski-Kermen in Crimea. I posted a lot of Pictures of it (Post #2 - #4). Close to the Mangup Fortress.

Here is a russian "Indiana Jones" walking the whole complex

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=arKyMDHMAEU

The Entrance. Could be easily defended.


In the distant past it was inhabited by about three thousand people, but very little is known about their life: written sources about Eski-Kermen are not mentioned, and archaeological finds are not too rich.

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Here some scematics of the cave city of Eski-Kermen in Crimea.

[Foxie Loxie]

Because of all the underground living quarters we are finding in the earth, it would seem that at some point in the past, populations were expecting to be "rained upon" from above so moved underground. The one in Capedocia is immense. Just my musings!

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Behold the ancient Inkerman.

Unraveling this feels better than a Christmas present. Inkerman is said to mean a "cave fortress" in Turkish.

This one is one of the things they really tried to push under the carpet. There is very little information. Nearly no mentioning in historybooks, apart from the area.
We are talking here one of the biggest Cave compexes I have ever seen. This Area deserves the Title Mother of all Cave Cities. Even Google Picturesearch did not reveal much.
But let´s start from the beginning.
Inkerman is a City at the Black Sea in the Ukraine. In Ancient times it was what we today call a Metropolis, a giant cave city. The old Türks gave it it´s name Inkerman (Cave City).
In medieval times up to the 18th century the ruins were famous. Often painted or engraved.

The Ruins of Inkermann and City of Caverns !


some caves visible


another Engraving:
https://fotki.yandex.ru/next/users/h...49/view/990558

https://www.arthermitage.org/Karl-vo...erman.big.html

Title: Excavated Church in the Caverns at Inkermann. Looking West.
(excavated church?)


That´s better