Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

[KiwiElf]

Curious observation - if we go back to the original crowd scene,... one of, if not the first video shown, just before and during the first alleged shots (might be better to turn the volume off): does anyone notice any "small crowd spreading", ie you would get this if someone made a commotion or fainted, the immediate group surrounding the individual spreads away - almost instantly. If they were shot, it would be more noticeable... until the majority of people start running (after the second round of shots), it just looks like an ordinary concert? One might also wonder why the "photographer" picked exactly that moment to video? There's nothing of any great interest to video at the time! ie midway between a song...

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Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
...Then, please, watch every single one of the videos of the shooting victims, watch the interviews of the nurses who were in ER, and listen to the audio interviews of the witnesses on the ground......

I wouldn't trust any msm 'interview' of any witness, so I just tried searching ‘er nurse las vegas’.

NO private posts at all.

This is what I said earlier about other searches. I only get a long column of msm source posts of their slickly produced and edited er related stories which have the most probability of having been staged.

'er nurse las vegas' returned different er story results in this order:
Associated Press
Washington Post
Fox Business
What’s Trending
New York Daily News
PBS News Hour
ABC News
CBS This Morning
13News Now
Inside Edition
CBS This Morning
CBS This Morning
Inside Edition
CBS Sacramento
CBS Los Angeles
Fox News
Associated Press
KTNV Las Vegas

NONE of my other normal everyday searches EVER give me all these msm outlets!
I refuse to watch any.

Where are the 1000's of real people who had the most bizarre and traumatic event of their lives who constantly share much less significant stuff all the time?

[Tintin]

Posted by Hervé (here)
Shots fired at the Vegas Bellagio the same night as the concert attack? YouTube took down the video.

by Jon Rappoport Oct 5, 2017

Yesterday, I posted a video reporting shots fired through the front door of the Vegas Bellagio Hotel on the night of the concert attack.

My, my. YouTube took the video down. We found a new link. Don’t know how long it’ll work.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=6V_gS9ythDQ

Why did YouTube take down the video? On what grounds? It was truthful and therefore disturbing? The video was taken inside the Bellagio by a guest, and she speaks at length about the shooting incident.

I guess that’s too real. A new standard for violating the rules: “It’s too real, take it down.”

Or: “It’s obviously fake, it must be, because no approved media outlets reported that shooting, but it looks too real so it’s a great fake, take it down.”

Clearly, another shooting in Vegas around the time of the concert shooting would open up the door to the idea of a planned multiple attack, involving more than just a “lone crazy man at the Mandalay Hotel.”

Can’t have that.

No.

We’re already beginning to see new calls for eliminating “fake news” in the wake of the Vegas attacks. The Guardian is bemoaning the fact that many videos are being posted which question, doubt, and reject the official lone gunman scenario.

Can’t have that.

No.

Instead, what we need are more videos of police press conferences. We should bow down and accept that information. The Church of Police Truth. It’s the only way to get to heaven. Join now before it’s too late and you’re infected by the Other.

After working for 19 years as a reporter and author, I went online in 2001 and called this site nomorefakenews. There was a reason for that. It’s called mainstream news.

Jon Rappoport

Excellent post Herve, thank you.

I have a question, or more of a request, and it is probably really geared to the moderators or anyone else with the capability to download video from youtube: please, please could as many of you as possible download and make available to the forum critical video, audio, and make it available here for download. I would appreciate that hugely for sure. I would certainly want to obtain for my own research purposes the Bellagio footage, the LV taxi driver footage, and there would be others for sure. Maybe a repository on the forum, provided there is the capacity to do this. This is a very very important event to have absolutely a resource for, somewhere, in one place.

If anyone can help then I'd thank them hugely. (Or PM me, with link downloads, or via We Transfer). Thanks.

[Arcturian108]

This past May, 2017, my organization held a Festival at a major hotel in Las Vegas, for which I had to sign a contract months in advance and commit to approximately $15,000 in room rentals and a hall rental with meals. There were only a small number of reasons that I could break the contract and not be liable, as stated in the contract, which names countries where we mainly have students who might attend. Here are the exact words of the contract:

"IMPOSSIBILITY [title of section]

​The performance of this Agreement is subject to termination without liability upon the occurrence of any circumstance beyond the control of either party - such as war on US soil, acts of terrorism or disaster including US, Turkey, Japan or Germany or curtailment of transportation facilities, or acts of God affecting the city of Las Vegas, Nevada, - to the extent that such circumstance makes it illegal or impossible for the Hotel to provide, or for groups in general to use, the Hotel facilities." [It goes on for a few more sentences.]"

So, although individuals might want to cancel their own trips to Las Vegas, large planned conventions might be able to cancel if this recent event was declared to be a "Terrorist act". Thus Las Vegas officials are avoiding this label at all costs. ​

[Cidersomerset]

There is plenty of speculation in the interview James Fetzer and articles from
Rense. Much of it has been touched in previous vids and articles but you may find
interesting......

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Jeff & Prof James Fetzer - Las Vegas…The Searing Truth

CIA , Mossad and ISIS are the same....

False Flag Vegas Massacre
http://www.rense.com/Datapages/FFvegasmasscre.htm

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=wbUUphyZ_6s

Published on 6 Oct 2017

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CIA, ISIS, Mossad False Flag - Another 9/11 As More Americans
Slaughtered For The Agenda - 'Lee Harvey' Paddock Was Dressed
Up With Guns - But No Motive - Never Knew He Was Patsied

Patsy Paddock Made An ISIS Video - Ex Trump Official
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-1...paign-official

Steve Wynn On His Fears Of Muslim Terror Attack In Las Vegas
And The Incredible CIA-Military Grade Security In All His Hotels

ISIS Weekly News Describes Paddock’s Islamic Conversion
This Is Why FBI Slapped Vegas Sheriff For Suggesting Paddock
'Had Help' - This Was An ISIS OP And FBI Is Trying To Hide That

ISIS Again Claims Paddock Converted 6 Months Ago

Why Did FBI Slap Down Vegas Cops Over Sheriff Saying
Paddock Had To Have Had Help? What Is FBI Hiding?

Las Vegas Sheriff - Paddock Was Living A Secret Life
Is The Sheriff Alluding To A Muslim Conversion?

Claims Of '20 Shots' Fired In Caesar's 15 Min After Massacre

Where Are The 1,000s Of Rounds Of Paddock's Brass Casings?

'Lee Harvey' Paddock - Another 'Lone Gunman' LIE
Worst 'Suicide' Set-Up Of A Patsy Ever?

Sheriff Admits Paddock Didn't Act Alone, 'Had To Have Help'

Wounded Victims, Families Rage At YouTube For Posting
Videos Claiming The Massacre Was Some Kind Of Hoax

Las Vegas Media Discounting All Other Hotel Reports - Vid

Paddock GF - 'Never Occurred To Me He Was Thinking Violence'

Girlfriend 'Had No Idea' Patsy Paddock Was Planning Harm

Shots Fired Into The Bellagio Hotel Entrance? - Vid

Bellagio Front Entry Sprayed With Gunfire? - Vid

Claims Of Shooting At Caesar's Palace 15 Min After Massacre

Hero Ex Marine Stole Truck, Transported Dozens To Hospital

Listen - Several Automatic Weapons Firing Simultaneously
New Horror Video Of Las Vegas Terrorist Attack - Vid

Video Freeze Of Three Muzzle Flash Shooter Locations

Las Vegas Police Release Body Cam Footage - Vid

For Those Who Think 'Crisis Actors' And 'Fake Blood'
Were Used In Las Vegas…DISCRETION ADVISED - Vid

DtRH - Did You Hear The One About The Lone Gunman? - pdf

Edited Police Radio Traffic Confirms MULTIPLE Shooters - Vid

HORRIFYING - Vegas Cabbie Video's Audio PROOF Of Machine
Guns,& Full Auto Assault Rifles - Cabbie Rescues Fleeing Concert-
Goers Screaming 'There Are 100s Of Dead Bodies Back There!!!' - Vid

The SOUND Of The Mandaly Bay M-60 Machine Gun - Vid

Video Of Second Shooter On 4th Floor Of Mandalay Bay
With Machine Gun Muzzle Flashes Clearly Visible - Vid

Video PROOF Of Second Shooter On FAR Lower Floor
With A PLATFORM MACHINE GUN Muzzle Blast, Sound

One Shooter With Assault Rifles? Time & Bullets Don't Add Up

http://www.rense.com/

[Hervé]

Posted by Tintin Quarantino (here)
[...]

I have a question, or more of a request, and it is probably really geared to the moderators or anyone else with the capability to download video from youtube: please, please could as many of you as possible download and make available to the forum critical video, audio, and make it available here for download. I would appreciate that hugely for sure. I would certainly want to obtain for my own research purposes the Bellagio footage, the LV taxi driver footage, and there would be others for sure. Maybe a repository on the forum, provided there is the capacity to do this. This is a very very important event to have absolutely a resource for, somewhere, in one place.

If anyone can help then I'd thank them hugely. (Or PM me, with link downloads, or via We Transfer). Thanks.

. . .

Caveat:

Posted by Hervé (here)
Another notice from Jim Stone:

IMPORTANT: YOUTUBE VIDEOS ARE NOW BEING RELEASED WITH FALSE SOUND TRACKS.

They are using the sound of chain fed machine guns and also cleaning them up to "prove" it was only one gun, and other hoakery to wreck the alt media, don't fall for it!

For example, the taxi video originally had very distant gunfire in it but now it is loud as hell near the hotel.

They did the same thing with cash for clunkers - the people destroying the cars were disgusted with what they were forced to do and it showed in the sound tracks, which were later swapped out with people hysterically laughing when the engines blew.

The dates on the videos never changed. The same type of thing is happening with Vegas now. If you did not have your videos cached before now, don't bother, what is out there now is wrecked. I'll have to check the videos on this web site also, to see if they are wrecked.

[sunwings]

Explain to me how you are a victim in the Las Vegas shootings & also being reported as wanted in Connellsville, PA today for sexual assault????

Simple mistake by news networks, bull**** story or the guy is one unlucky sex offender that got gunned down in Vegas????

[Hervé]

There's also this:

... which is not there:

[Carmody]

It appears as if it is an oligarchical factional war that is happening here.

One trying to stampede the US public, another trying to stall it out. For various reasons, obviously.

"Asymmetrical warfare" is a good name for it.

[Tintin]

Posted by Hervé (here)

Posted by Tintin Quarantino (here)
[...]

I have a question, or more of a request, and it is probably really geared to the moderators or anyone else with the capability to download video from youtube: please, please could as many of you as possible download and make available to the forum critical video, audio, and make it available here for download. I would appreciate that hugely for sure. I would certainly want to obtain for my own research purposes the Bellagio footage, the LV taxi driver footage, and there would be others for sure. Maybe a repository on the forum, provided there is the capacity to do this. This is a very very important event to have absolutely a resource for, somewhere, in one place.

If anyone can help then I'd thank them hugely. (Or PM me, with link downloads, or via We Transfer). Thanks.

. . .

Caveat:

Posted by Hervé (here)
Another notice from Jim Stone:

IMPORTANT: YOUTUBE VIDEOS ARE NOW BEING RELEASED WITH FALSE SOUND TRACKS.

They are using the sound of chain fed machine guns and also cleaning them up to "prove" it was only one gun, and other hoakery to wreck the alt media, don't fall for it!

For example, the taxi video originally had very distant gunfire in it but now it is loud as hell near the hotel.

They did the same thing with cash for clunkers - the people destroying the cars were disgusted with what they were forced to do and it showed in the sound tracks, which were later swapped out with people hysterically laughing when the engines blew.

The dates on the videos never changed. The same type of thing is happening with Vegas now. If you did not have your videos cached before now, don't bother, what is out there now is wrecked. I'll have to check the videos on this web site also, to see if they are wrecked.

Thanks Herve: as demonstrated here, for example:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=k8B366HiHPs

[turiya]

Stefan Molyneux has a good logical mind, puts together the basic facts in good chronological order...

One thing that I see that Stefan doesn't quite understand is something I mentioned previously in post #224. And that would be the notion that Paddock's Fillipino girl friend, Danley, thought - after receiving a large sum of cash - $100,000 - with the suggestion to buy her family a house - that Paddock was possibly meaning to end their relationship.

The Las Vegas Shooter
Story Changes Once Again
(Oct 5, 2017)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=BCBYAWyFEqM

[RunningDeer]

Hey, cowboy. Why are you looking in the direction of the camera holding a drink in the middle of the chaos? A little help please.

Who cropped out the drink? And why?

Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
False Flag Vegas Massacre
http://www.rense.com/Datapages/FFvegasmasscre.htm

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=wbUUphyZ_6s

[Hervé]

Posted by Tintin Quarantino (here)
[...]
If anyone can help then I'd thank them hugely. (Or PM me, with link downloads, or via We Transfer). Thanks.

Original cab driver's video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=au8x...ature=youtu.be

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=au8x5YBf1gQ

See here for others: http://www.1src.com/topic/las-vegas-...ting-survivors

[Mari]

Posted by neutronstar (here)

Posted by greybeard (here)
Regarding motive
Just a thought

There is a mentality that takes everything to the extreme.
For example if I had a really fast car in my teens I would have killed myself pushing the car to the limits.
Guns are meant to be fired.

If I was fed up with life I might want to see how effective my pet collection of guns were.

We are also fed a daily dose of violence from the moment we first watch TV ---films---games--all have violence inherent in them.
It gets to seem normal--yet unreal.
All these actors killed in films to reappear in another movie.

And there you have the President speaking of destroying North Korea ---many thousands of innocent people living in fear of annihilation.

Civilized!! ---Think the human race has a bit to go----"Mans inhumanity to man"

Chris

I agree with everything you just said, but in this case a I find it strange that a women with her boyfriend told people at the concert you are all going to die tonight. More than one person knew what was going to happen so there is as least a conspiracy at work. Unless she was a very gifted seer.

Ok, on the premise that this shooting was a false flag of sorts, the perps (name your culprit) would, because of ‘Universal Law’ have to state their intentions of what it was going to do. I’ve come across this often, where I’ve read that the Illuminati must give some kind of notice of their intentions.
It’s possible this woman, not part of the crowd there, was doing just that?

[neutronstar]

Posted by waves (here)

Where are the 1000's of real people who had the most bizarre and traumatic event of their lives who constantly share much less significant stuff all the time?

Well I will take a guess here.

It might be because it was the most bizarre and traumatic event in their lives, and for a short time they were pulled into the present moment where they were more concerned with their surroundings and what was going on then they were about their phones. I'm guessing here, but I think that I would be more concerned about not getting shot then documenting what was going on. Actually that would be the last thing I would be thinking about.

After further review, it seems YouTube maybe censoring videos of the incident, imagine that.

[neutronstar]

Posted by Mari (here)

Posted by neutronstar (here)

Posted by greybeard (here)
Regarding motive
Just a thought

There is a mentality that takes everything to the extreme.
For example if I had a really fast car in my teens I would have killed myself pushing the car to the limits.
Guns are meant to be fired.

If I was fed up with life I might want to see how effective my pet collection of guns were.

We are also fed a daily dose of violence from the moment we first watch TV ---films---games--all have violence inherent in them.
It gets to seem normal--yet unreal.
All these actors killed in films to reappear in another movie.

And there you have the President speaking of destroying North Korea ---many thousands of innocent people living in fear of annihilation.

Civilized!! ---Think the human race has a bit to go----"Mans inhumanity to man"

Chris

I agree with everything you just said, but in this case a I find it strange that a women with her boyfriend told people at the concert you are all going to die tonight. More than one person knew what was going to happen so there is as least a conspiracy at work. Unless she was a very gifted seer.

Ok, on the premise that this shooting was a false flag of sorts, the perps (name your culprit) would, because of ‘Universal Law’ have to state their intentions of what it was going to do. I’ve come across this often, where I’ve read that the Illuminati must give some kind of notice of their intentions.
It’s possible this woman, not part of the crowd there, was doing just that?

I know it is reported a lot, but I think that is just BS. Also, I don't think that all the Powers that be are into the occult.

[neutronstar]

Posted by neutronstar (here)

Posted by waves (here)

Where are the 1000's of real people who had the most bizarre and traumatic event of their lives who constantly share much less significant stuff all the time?

Well I will take a guess here.

It might be because it was the most bizarre and traumatic event in their lives, and for a short time they were pulled into the present moment where they were more concerned with their surroundings and what was going on then they were about their phones. I'm guessing here, but I think that I would be more concerned about not getting shot then documenting what was going on. Actually that would be the last thing I would be thinking about.

Here is one it is very Graphic.

https://www.liveleak.com/view?i=63b_1507062726

[turiya]

Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
False Flag Vegas Massacre
http://www.rense.com/Datapages/FFvegasmasscre.htm

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=wbUUphyZ_6s

At 19:35 Jeff Rense plays a couple videos regarding the windows that were shot out at the Bellagio Hotel with no mention of this in the MSM, as the police, hotel security & even the media are complicit with the notion of keeping certain occurrences from being made public - particulary violent acts being put on the national news outlets.

I can back up what Rense was saying, because back on March 27, 2017, I picked up some regular clients from the airport that were coming back from Las Vegas. These family members have alot of reunions - birthday celebrations, holiday get-togethers, etc. - and particularly like to do this in Las Vegas. They go there all the time. After loading luggage & getting everyone into the car, and starting to drive away, I asked them how things went?

This is what they told me, "Oh, haven't you heard of what happened in the Las Vegas?" I said, "No. What happened?" They then told me of seeing masked gunmen entering the hotel casino they were at, one was wearing a pig-face mask, holding guns up in the air, yelling that everyone should get down on the floor! They immediately tried to scramble themselves out of there only to find locked doors everywhere they went. The Hotel was in 'lock-down'!

They told me the robbers ended up going into a Rolex store and robbing that place.

They said they finally did find a way to get out of the hotel through a service entrance. They then tried to get a cab to go back to their hotel, but they found that the whole street traffic was blocked & barricaded by police because of another incident that was occurring at the same time. There was somebody that was holding hostages on a local city bus & making demands!

They eventually found a creative taxicab driver that ended up driving over the sidewalks to get them out of the area they were in & back to their hotel.

I said, "Wow. You found yourself a very good driver. But, no, there was nothing on the news about this."

We discussed the matter a bit further as to why it was not on the news & figured that it was news that Las Vegas officials did not want to let get out. "What Happens in Vegas, Stays in Vegas" phrase rings quite true. The corporate casinos certainly must be paying off people in 'high' places to keep quiet on anything that would make visitors not want to come to Las Vegas.

When I got back home, I even did a quick search for this, but never found an article. Just now when I did a search on the Bellagio Hotel windows being shot out, there was the article from March 25, 2017 that was posted in The Sun - a UK news site.... Go figure... And a recent article about the windows in the Bellagio that Rense was talking about can only be found in an alternative news source - INTELLIHUB. Again go figure...

[TrumanCash]

I haven't found any reference yet to the "twin towers" behind the stage on the other side of Mandalay Bay Blvd. You can see it on google maps and on the videos of the shooting facing the stage. The two towers are south of the stage (video link below).

Could there have been shooters at the top of these two towers (which are apparently the beginnings of the construction of possibly a new casino or other structure)?

I am not an expert or even a novice regarding automatic weapons sounds but in the video--link below--the rifle fire sounds closer than coming from the Mandalay. The "twin towers" are much closer than the Mandalay.

I forgot where I read that a woman was--if I understood this correctly--at the back of the stage, running away from it (running south?) and she got hit in the knee by a bullet. Does anyone know where this account is at?

Also, it is interesting that the Sphinx at Luxor is facing to the east in accordance with Egyptian worship of the star Sirius which was the "bringer of the dawn"/"Lucifer", heralding the rising sun in the east when the Nile flooded bringing irrigation and fertility to the land. The eucharist of Osiris practiced by general public then was the outer mystery which concealed the inner mystery practiced in secret in the Great Pyramid involving ritual human sacrifice (details in the EYE OF RA).

https://www.instagram.com/p/BZvBP0-H..._kindred_girl_

[waves]

Posted by neutronstar (here)

Posted by waves (here)

Where are the 1000's of real people who had the most bizarre and traumatic event of their lives who constantly share much less significant stuff all the time?

Well I will take a guess here.

It might be because it was the most bizarre and traumatic event in their lives, and for a short time they were pulled into the present moment where they were more concerned with their surroundings and what was going on then they were about their phones. I'm guessing here, but I think that I would be more concerned about not getting shot then documenting what was going on. Actually that would be the last thing I would be thinking about.

After further review, it seems YouTube maybe censoring videos of the incident, imagine that.

True, but I mean before and after too. A lot more are always now filming during a concert and should have caught the start and a bit after, a lot more would have filmed their wounded buddy in any er, a lot more would be expected to have posted some aftermath report - and there is nearly NOTHING privately posted on YT.