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    Well said. Will miss you here, but, have a good time NASU. If you are literally going off into the woods to train your mind and body, it sounds wonderful. I imagine being able to get away for that sort of thing too. Too many commitments just now, but looking forward to the day. Bye for now.x

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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    Like many people here, I've been following this event. Many people and outlets have certainly posed many views and explanation as to what happened. Since there have been many people attesting to personally knowing people who have died or injured, I believe these reports.

    Also, there is one facet of this story that has been bothering me, and that is that the number of the people that died has been fairly steady at 58 or 59 from the very outset of the story. I've read this report by a supposed military surgeon that has the view that the victims were all crisis actors. The reporter explains that this event involved crisis actors since the wounds resulting from the high-powered weapons would cause serious injury that for many people who may initially survive, but later die - thus the reporter expected the death count to go up since the shootings.

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    Quote Quote Posted by Tyy1907 (here)
    Jury's still out for me on Alex Jones and his involvement here.
    Alex Jones and company is calling anyone who thinks there is a possibility of more
    than one gunman "idiotic" and is buying the Antifa angle so I think they are trying
    to rile up the Right while protecting the Empire. I guess I'm the juror everybody
    hates.
    The situation is fluid but Alex has been saying there was more than one gunman
    from early on . The ISIS , Antifa material/ links is coming from inside sources
    in the police and intel , whether that is false or not is a question though Alex
    seems confident in it , who knows at this stage ?







    BREAKING! Vegas Sheriff Forced To Alter Shooters Timeline After Questions From Citizen Journalists


    Published on 9 Oct 2017
    We've known for 6 days that "shooter" Stephen Paddock checked into the Mandalay Bay
    hotel on 9/25/17 based on valet receipts. This is three days earlier than the publicly
    admitted timeline from Las Vegas Sheriff Lombardo. Also in the press conference it was
    revealed that security guard Jose Campos was shot before the "shooter" started firing
    upon the crowd. This directly contradicts the timeline presented on 10/4/17 there LVPD
    indicated that the security guard was shot which prompted the stop in the massacre.

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Establishment Can't Cover Up Details Of Las Vegas Shooter



    Published on 9 Oct 2017
    Alex Jones does a boil down on all of the evidence stacking up concerning Las
    Vegas shooter Stephen Paddock. The media and its tsunami of lies can't cover up
    the truth.

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    Quotes from the ANTIFA's Playbook Revealed......Rules for radicals

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uEDr0T2dTYQ

    Published on 9 Oct 2017
    As we face the coming tide of violence that Antifa, The Democratic Socialists, and
    other treasonous groups are fomenting. Its important to see their salinskyite tactics
    for what they are.
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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    I was going to post a bombshell video that I found online, but it already half appears in Cider's post (post 424) above. Please(!) watch it if you didn't yet (full NBC version below, where you will see my dot points), it's almost as fascinating (if you have been following this drama) as the brother's now famous press conference. TLDR: My main point for this post is in the last paragraph.

    Here is the non-infowars version:



    - Lombardo almost starts crying in the early part of the press conference (and not due to grief surrounding the victims, as far as I can tell), and to a lesser extent again towards the end.
    - Lombardo is forced to defend his comments that the shooter was planning an escape, says there have now been discussions about that (reading between the lines: others in the police have shot down this idea).
    - Lombardo gets angry and admonishes a journalist as the conference surges towards the moment where he will be asked to admit he is changing his story.
    - Lombardo is asked that very question, and confesses that the timeline regarding Jesus Campos has now changed.
    - Lombardo comments on the perception that he is frustrated.
    - Lombardo admits that the check-in timeline has now changed too.

    I have found Lombardo to be a fascinating character in this story. At one conference he was grinning ridiculously (may have been one where Trump was present), which was utterly incongruous with the subject of the conference. Later he, rather astoundingly and unilaterally, puts forward a literal conspiracy theory - that Paddock had assistance, and the rather unconvincing claim that Paddock wished to escape. Another time he was asked (it was barely audible) by a journalist if he thought they would find a motive; Lombaro's answer was staggeringly hard and fast (Yes), he had no doubt about it (almost as if her knew already). In the same conference he admitted that he had a lot of information that he was not sharing, and that if he answered (I am paraphrasing) 'I don't know' to a question, 'it didn't necessarily mean he didn't know' (to laughter from the journalists). At another conference he, rather vainly heaped praise on his police officers (this was before the 72 minute timeline was revealed) for being so efficient and brave, it seemed weird at the time, maybe because it was so close to the event and that is not really the time for that kind of commentary and self-praise. Separately, at another conference, after it was looking like Campos was the one who stopped the shooting, Lombardo was (embarrassingly) quick to say the police were right behind Campos and would have got there seconds later anyway. I noted with interest that after this, a different police spokesperson came out and said the police maybe hadn't properly recognised and praised the role that Campos played (I think this was done in response to Lombardo's behaviour).



    And how, here he is, with an (FBI?) minder literally over his shoulder, at one point telling him that it wouldn't be prudent to share information about the number of phones, after which Lombardo says he doesn't know the answer (when he clearly does) - it's odd that he defers to the FBI here before answering - as if they had previously agreed not to talk about the phones, but Lombardo can't help himself and tries to get permission to answer the question.

    It looks like Lombardo is not trusted by the FBI and perhaps even by other police involved in the investigation. Was Lombardo on friendly terms with Trump before this all happened?

    But most importantly:

    It was stated (I think) multiple times (I will have to find the source) that Paddock fired about 200 shots at Campos (sounded odd to me from the beginning). We now know (I think) that the VERY FIRST shots were fired at Campos according to police - so therefore the first 200 or so shots that we have audio recordings of, should have been down the corridor at Campos. But here's the problem: we have video of the first dozens of shots, and they are definitely being fired into the crowd. This is a huge contradiction. Unless 200 shots fired down the corridor were not audible. I expect the '200 shots at Campos' claim to be retracted shortly. What a mess this is.

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    I wire up a hairdryer the wrong way when it only has 2 wires to the plug so I am not tech savvy, at all, but I read your interaction with LadyM, Omnisense. I had been wondering, simply from the unlikely stance that this man would do such a thing without leaving breadcrumbs that he was being remotely controlled somehow. Could he have been given a trigger word that could have set off some sort of programming he was put through? Is it possible there could be tech in what we would consider to be physical implants, such as those, people find in their bodies from alien abductions, in the neck, head, limbs, and such? The sort of little capsule implants that Steven Greer says are actually from terrestrial abductions made to look like alien abductions? Do you think something like that could have a remote control sleeper activation type capacity Omnisense?

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    Quote Posted by LadyM (here)
    Quote Posted by Jantje (here)
    In this footage you can hear shots coming from 2 different locations it seems at around 4.05 onwards




    Sorry if it's been posted before, I went through a few pages but there is a lot of stuff in this thread
    I don't get how people, when they should be running for their lives, can hold their phones and cameras and video record what's going on. I'm not saying that people can't or don't do it.
    The same thought crossed my mind as well, but, from the point of view of a certain mindset that knows they are caught up in what appears to be a momentous event, great social media content may be a motivator coupled with an instinct that it may also be worth the risk to document it in some way.

    Bearing in mind that this is/was, I am absolutely certain, a psychological operational false flag event - that's a no brainer and many of us here have determined that - run with military precision would necessitate also ensuring that your field agents would also be in position in the role of cameraman, strategically positioned at various points on the ground, to capture the event.

    The sources for some footage, not all footage, would be part of the operation. I think it sage, sensible, and critical even, to ignore any reference at all to this being a "ISIS FBI sting operation gone wrong" or to employ that narrative in drawing any firm conclusion. That is if I may so boldly state, palpable nonsense. This was well planned and executed with multiple players, with plenty of "snow" dumped on top after the fact, to confuse people. Very clever, but, less so the more you familiarise yourself with the MO; they, and we, have had plenty of practice for a while now.

    What is interesting from listening to this footage is that the starting point captured here does reveal gunshots before the fusillade that we have become accustomed to with some earlier footage shared here and, more widely familiar on the net.

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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    Quote Posted by Caliban (here)
    I urge everyone to read this article Cidersomerset linked to below. That guy nails it!! It's short and sweet and profound.


    Quote Posted by Cidersomerset (here)


    WAKING TIMES...

    The Choose-Your-Own-Reality Theory of Terror, Mass Shootings and Spiritual Warfare

    October 6, 2017
    Dylan Charles editor...

    Waking Times
    By now, every possible angle of the Las Vegas shooting has been expounded upon
    by anyone with a website or a YouTube channel. Without a doubt, something
    doesn’t add up, but, we’ve gone through this before, many times now, and it never
    adds up.

    read more...
    http://www.wakingtimes.com/2017/10/0...itual-warfare/

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    To use musical parlance, when the thread starts to dry or reach its natural end, this would serve as the perfect 'set closer'. A brilliant piece of writing by Dylan Charles - wonderful find @Cidersomerset

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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    Robert Stanley's take on it.

    http://unicusmagazine.com/Satanic_Sacrifice.htm

    Scroll down a little to see the article.

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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    This is the next step in the media hype , if the public are not buying your first
    stories start planting more seeds.....As we saw with the CIANN article yesterday ,
    about drugs the old conspiracy nut is being rolled out ,classic intelligence disinfomation.


    CIANN ...highlighting the narcotic gambler..
    Las Vegas man ( Stephen ) gambling habits revealed


    Published on 9 Oct 2017
    He was a nocturnal creature who gambled all night and slept all day.

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------


    ACTIVIST POST....


    Media Pushes Narrative Vegas Gunman “Loved Conspiracy Theories,” Questioned 9/11



    By Matt Agorist

    As police frantically continue to find a motive for the Las Vegas murderer,
    both sides of the political spectrum — equally as frantic — search for anything
    that ties him to their political foes. Now it appears that there is a new narrative
    surfacing from multiple outlets that Stephen Paddock was a conspiracy theorist
    who thought 9/11 was an inside job.

    Rest assured, if police had any evidence linking this murderous psychopath to
    an extreme right, extreme left, or terrorist group, this would’ve been made
    public by now. We have seen an unprecedented length of time go by, not only
    without surveillance footage but with no hints as to why Paddock shot into a
    crowd of 22,000 innocent people. However, it looks like this may start to change.

    According to the Daily Mail, a prostitute who Paddock hired repeatedly has allegedly
    come forward with some rather nefarious claims.A Las Vegas prostitute who was
    hired by murderer Stephen Paddock has spoken out about their ‘violent’ sex
    sessions and how he bragged about having ‘bad blood’.The woman, who spoke
    anonymously, said she would spend hours drinking and gambling in Sin City with
    Paddock, who she described as ‘paranoid’ and ‘obsessive’.

    If he hit a winning streak, he would take her back to his room for ‘really aggressive
    and violent sex’ including living out rape fantasies, she said.

    Read More....https://www.activistpost.com/2017/10...ioned-911.html

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    I don't know if the vid in this article has already been posted ? if so ignore....


    ACTIVIST POST....

    New Video Emerges Raising Questions of Overlapping Gunfire at Las Vegas Concert

    TOPICS:Las VegasRachel Blevins.
    .
    October 9, 2017
    By Rachel Blevins

    A new video has emerged from the night of the Las Vegas shooting that appears to
    show overlapping gunfire coming from multiple locations, which clearly contradicts
    the mainstream narrative of what occurred on the night 59 people were killed and
    over 500 were injured.

    The video is under 3 minutes long and was filmed by an individual who appears to
    be hiding near a gate during the shooting. While crowds of people can be seen
    running from the area, the person filming the video is staying low to the ground
    with a group of people who are encouraging others to take cover, instead of
    running out into the open.

    “No, we are NOT moving. Just stay down,” one girl says. “Don’t leave, just stay down!”

    The first burst of gunfire can be heard at the 0:15 mark, followed almost
    immediately by a second burst of gunfire that sounds distinctly different. The same
    thing happens again at the 2:01 mark, with secondary gunfire beginning at the 2:06 mark.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBZMh19_Dws

    Vid on link....below...

    https://www.activistpost.com/2017/10...s-concert.html


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    Though this article does have parallels with the Pentagon camera farce ....
    The baggage question has been debated,


    Las Vegas Shooter Brought More Than 10 Suitcases Into The Hotel

    Andrew Cheetham
    3 hours ago Problem-Reaction-Solution


    ACTIVIST POST.....

    Las Vegas Shooter Brought More Than 10 Suitcases Into The Hotel


    By Jon Rappoport.... 9 Oct 2017

    No problem.

    Even the Washington Post (10/2) expresses puzzlement: “Among the questions
    they [investigators] have: “…how he [Stephen Paddock] was able to bring it [a
    weapon] and many other weapons into a Vegas hotel suite undetected.”

    “[Las Vegas Sheriff] Lombardo said hotel staff had been in and out of the two-room
    suite, which Paddock had stayed in since Sept. 28, and spotted nothing ‘nefarious,’
    though he had more than 10 suitcases.”

    I see. Ten suitcases. More than 10. How many? Fifteen?

    Paddock, a high-stakes gambler the casinos know well, a man they know is a local
    resident, suddenly shows up with 10 suitcases. Hotel staff are in and out of his
    suite and no one has questions?

    This raises no red flags?

    In a city where the hotels and casinos have many layers of security, including metal
    , Paddock quietly slipped in with more than 10 suitcases holding weapons and ammo?

    The city of Las Vegas has shown up in ISIS chatter as a target of interest. Wouldn’t
    that cause hotels and casinos to step up their already heavy security?

    A year ago, KTNV reported: “’Terrorism is very much in the forefront of every
    casino owner’s mind,’ said retired Lt. Randy Sutton, 13 Action News Crime and
    Safety Expert.”

    read more...https://www.activistpost.com/2017/10...ses-hotel.html
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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    I've been away for over a week and have not read this whole thread.

    I saw some TV of the first 2 days of the event and wondered why we are being bum rushed past the facts into agenda land.

    As far as I know, the facts are that a lot of bullets were fired at the crowd from a window of a room where a dead body was found with a bullet hole in it.

    Has there been a photo of that dead man shooting from the window, or are we left to assume it was actually him?

    It could have been a professional shooter who did it and then left that man's body in the room. . . . could it not ?
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    Hmmmmm... very dangerous assertion indeed; so now the alternative media and conspiracy theorists by implication, become [potential] terrorists?
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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    If the official narrative remains that there is only one shooter than this is just further evidence of complicity among the media , FBI and the all other agencies involved as most here on Avalon already know from previous high profile incidents. The following video , to my untrained eye, is a good analysis of confirming a second and or possibly a third and fourth shooter. It would be easy to determine without this acoustic forensic analysis if there was in fact other shooters. All that has to be done is locate all the lodged bullets at the site to see which direction they had to be shot from. If there are bullets lodged in the back of the stage then the bullets came from straight on. If there are bullets lodged in the far corner close to the Luxor then they had to be shot from the opposite direction of Mandalay Bay or somewhere behind the stage from an elevated position. The FBI isn't stupid and have the resources and forensic knowledge to determine absolutely how many shooters were involved. If we aren't presented with this conclusive evidence (for or against multiple shooters) then even the most ardent statist would have to agree that we are once again being lied to and our reality is being manipulated. We all know that here and with each incident more people are waking up to this reality. I won't hold my breath on getting anything conclusive. Nothing to see here folks, keep shopping and keep those flags waving.

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    Quote Posted by findingneo (here)
    Robert Stanley's take on it.

    http://unicusmagazine.com/Satanic_Sacrifice.htm

    Scroll down a little to see the article.
    Stanley is right about the concert being closer to Luxor than Mandalay. The Luxor Sky Beam is, according to Wikipedia, the "strongest beam of light in the world." I wonder if there was anything different about the beam the night of the shooting. The Criss Angel "Mind Freak" ("pretending to be Lucifer") show at Luxor is also an interesting potential dot. Was the massacre a Satanic sacrifice? Could it have been one item on the agenda?

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    Quote As far as I know, the facts are that a lot of bullets were fired at the crowd from a window of a room where a dead body was found with a bullet hole in it.

    Has there been a photo of that dead man shooting from the window, or are we left to assume it was actually him?

    It could have been a professional shooter who did it and then left that man's body in the room. . . . could it not ?
    That's basically where we still are , there are plenty of video analyst for other shooters
    and speculation on agendas and motives of Paddock. Most concur this all stinks .....
    Others have more technical details I have been concentrating on the bigger picture
    and posting interesting related articles imo from both alternate and mainstream.

    Obviously gun control is back in the spotlight, but also a clamp down on alternate
    news on the web big and small , and how to increase security more airport type scanners
    random searches etc...All the usual ingredients for control ' problem reaction sollution'
    sleep walking us into the totalitarian tiptoe as someone we all know has been telling
    us for decades.....

    Actually Davids vid goes better here....I just listened to it again.

    David Icke commenting on the attack a few days after , I think I posted it earlier in
    the thread but more relevant now in the broader sense and agendas of the controllers...
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkEs02-ciCA

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    This was pointed out by Info wars journalist in # 424 above and is important ,
    then the ABC news anchor quickly changes the narrative to 'mental health'...
    Paddock fired 200 rounds at the security guard six minutes before the main
    attack , he does not seem to be very good shot if he only wounded him..

    Authorities change timeline of Las Vegas shooting


    Published on 10 Oct 2017
    Mandalay Bay security guard Jesus Campo was shot by Stephen Paddock minutes
    before the 64-year-old began shooting unsuspecting Route 91 Harvest Festival
    concertgoers, authorities now say.

    ===================================================

    Las Vegas police change concert shooting timeline



    Published on 10 Oct 2017
    Authorities say Stephen Paddock shot a security guard 6 minutes before massacre
    began; Dan Springer reports on the latest in the investigation.
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    If anyone has a link to a video of police being asked about the young woman who testified to the media that a distraught woman told everyone they were going to die, prior to the shooting, or any other update on this, please post.

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    Quote Posted by norman (here)
    I've been away for over a week and have not read this whole thread.
    [...]
    It's always a good idea to get acquainted with the content of a thread

    Quote I saw some TV of the first 2 days of the event and wondered why we are being bum rushed past the facts into agenda land.

    As far as I know, the facts are that a lot of bullets were fired at the crowd from a window of a room where a dead body was found with a bullet hole in it.
    [...]
    ... shows the MSM brainwashing/mass hypnosis is actually working because when one truly gets the importance of "No Broken Windows" post massacre... it couldn't have been "him" nor anyone else on that "floor" nor any other floors.

    See this post (<---) as well.

    So, when narratives/theories/hypotheses are founded on a flawed premise... any of them can't help but be...

    See Bill's view on the whole thing... and hopefully one'll quit getting bogged and lost in a quagmire of inconsistencies

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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    A few noted thoughts. A cover-up, for sure, and all kinds of aspects to this not being reported, or being denied by, the mainstream media.

    Nothing surprising there — except that the big picture of what really happened is way too obvious not to be quickly understood by large numbers of people. Too many witnesses, too much video, too many anomalies, too many good unanswered questions.

    Whoever orchestrated this would have been smart enough to know that's exactly how it would all play out soon after the incident.

    I've not yet heard any commentators or analysts make that observation.

    One potential result, that could well be desired and planned, is a divided nation. Further major incidents over the next couple of months, similarly shocking, confusing, controversial and deliberately misreported, might divide it more.

    Then the coup de grâce would be taking out Trump, either physically or functionally. That would ignite the desired civil war.

    If I'm anywhere near right, which I hope I'm not — and we may know soon enough — what we've seen in Las Vegas might just be the start of a well thought out strategic campaign that so far hasn't been careless or misplanned in any tiny way.
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    Quote Posted by norman (here)
    I've been away for over a week and have not read this whole thread.
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    It's always a good idea to get acquainted with the content of a thread

    Quote I saw some TV of the first 2 days of the event and wondered why we are being bum rushed past the facts into agenda land.

    As far as I know, the facts are that a lot of bullets were fired at the crowd from a window of a room where a dead body was found with a bullet hole in it.
    [...]
    ... shows the MSM brainwashing/mass hypnosis is actually working because when one truly gets the importance of "No Broken Windows" post massacre... it couldn't have been "him" nor anyone else on that "floor" nor any other floors.

    See this post (<---) as well.

    So, when narratives/theories/hypotheses are founded on a flawed premise... any of them can't help but be...

    See Bill's view on the whole thing... and hopefully one'll quit getting bogged and lost in a quagmire of inconsistencies
    Thank you very much for the direct points of reference in the thread Herve.

    Bill's point about opening a division in the population has been bugging me a lot since 9/11. Such sloppiness that part of the population sees the fakery and the rest don't.

    I've even wondered if this entire "truther movement" is all their own plan with multiple uses including the division.
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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    To add to my above post, some cogitation from Jon Rappoport:

    Information mind control: directed confusion

    by Jon Rappoport Oct 10, 2017

    —When a person investigates a holy of holies where only truth is supposed to live, and when he offers evidence that the sacred inner sanctum is based on a lie, the public reaction of disbelief is based on Reference to Authority. “Well, all the experts couldn’t [be] wrong. That’s impossible.” The holier the lie, the more impossible is the truth—

    In a recent article, I analyzed the Vegas shooting in terms of both real and fake incidents happening at the same time—and the (intentional) confusion and conflict that then plays out.

    Now I want to go deeper.

    People often get it wrong when they look at cause and effect.

    I learned this lesson, in 1987-88, when I was writing my first book, AIDS INC., Scandal of the Century.

    People were dying. They were dying in San Francisco and New York and Los Angeles and Africa and Haiti. There was no question about that. The effect was real and devastating.

    So I blithely assumed the announced cause, HIV, was, in fact, the cause. It had to be.

    If I questioned the cause, I would be questioning the truth of the effect, right?

    Wrong.

    It took me a while to see that. It took me many months of research.

    In retrospect, what I did in my investigation was quite straightforward. At the time, it felt like I was walking through a jungle in the dark.

    I examined each so-called “high-risk” group. These were groups the medical experts said were prone to “catching HIV” and developing AIDS.

    I found that ALL the immune suppression (the hallmark of AIDS) in these groups could be explained by causes that had nothing to do with HIV. Depending on which group, there was: hunger, starvation, contaminated water supplies, toxic medical drugs, vast overuse of antibiotics, vast overuse of debilitating street drugs, repeated instances of debilitating standard sexually transmitted diseases (not AIDS), an experimental vaccine…

    On top of that, when I went back to the original research on HIV, I discovered the prime researchers had failed to find and identify HIV in a sufficient percentage of diagnosed AIDS patients to claim the virus was the cause.

    I discovered there was no reason to assume HIV was the cause of AIDS based on specific actions of the virus in the body. In other words, researchers couldn’t show the virus was doing anything. They just assumed it was wreaking havoc, and they kept changing their guesses about what it could be doing.

    The effect (people dying) was real, but the purported cause (HIV) was unproven, and therefore, fake.

    I spoke with many people who accepted HIV as the cause of AIDS BECAUSE so many people were dying. They made that equation. They made that unwarranted leap.

    In the field of psychiatry (an obvious pseudoscience), the same thing happens. The effect is real: people have problems, they’re suffering, they’re in pain and confusion. The cause? Specific mental disorders.

    Well, these disorders must be real because the effect is real, right?

    Wrong.

    There are many explanations for what people are experiencing and suffering. On the other hand, there are NO defining laboratory tests for diagnosing ANY so-called disorder in the official bible of the psychiatric profession. No blood tests, no saliva tests, no brain scans, no genetic assays. Nothing.

    The effect is real, but the cause is unproven and therefore fake.

    People make this cause-and-effect mistake in various fields all the time. Propagandists use this mistake to their own advantage in promoting false causes of events to forward agendas.

    In schools, a proper study of cause and effect would make students independently brighter. But of course, that is not the normal goal of education. The goal is creating obedience. And eliciting specific responses to specific stimuli.

    The bell rings, the dog salivates.

    That’s a completely different version of cause and effect.

    Jon Rappoport

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    See the parallel with "Vegas"?
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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

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    Police officers stand at the scene of a shooting near the Mandalay Bay resort and casino on the Las Vegas Strip, Sunday, Oct. 1, 2017, in Las Vegas.
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    As I did in this earlier post with another image of the Mandalay taken the night of the shooting, after the shooting, I have again, below, cropped out the key part of the image, showing the windows that Haddock allegedly shot from:
    I have again marked where the two blown out windows are supposed to be, on the 32nd floor. The two horizontal lines mark the 32nd floor, and the two pairs of vertical lines each surround, above and below, the two windows that were supposedly blown out by the shooter.

    Once again, I see a grey smudge in the lower half of the left window, and nothing in particular unusual in the right window.
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    Default Re: Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    [[...]
    ... I see a grey smudge in the lower half of the left window, and nothing in particular unusual in the right window.
    Right, similar grey smudges are seen on other windows as well.

    The crucial point being: NO LIGHTS coming out of the "crime scene" that's supposed to be there and being actively investigated...

    Yet, the pictures of said crime scene seems to indicate that curtains are being blown around from the - now - broken window in a well lit room.





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