Active shooters in Las Vegas: 59 dead, 546 injured

[Star Tsar]

Project Camelot



Dr. James Fetzer & Scott Bennett | Vegas Update

Published 17th September 2017

Kerry talks with Dr. James Fetzer ( jamesfetzer.blogspot.com/ ) and Dr. Scott Bennett, author and former officer with a high level clearance inside a US military PSYOPS division, about all the evidence surrounding the Mandalay Bay shooting in Vegas

They do a roundup on all evidence to date.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=x8hz0Ltxh7s

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Star Tsar (here)
Kerry talks with Dr. James Fetzer ( jamesfetzer.blogspot.com/ ) and Dr. Scott Bennett ...

From the few snippets of this that I just listened to now, this is not a particularly helpful interview.

Jim Fetzer does most of the talking, as he usually does, and he presents the various discrepancies in the Las Vegas shooting stories that I suspect were planted early in the days following the event, to provide the (more or less equally false) alternative-media conspiracy theory stories, that dispel the main stream media stories, but that are equally riddled with distractions and deceptions.

For example, at the 1:56:43 mark, Fetzer is concluding that no one died at Las Vegas except for one (or a few ... I've not listened that far yet) specific named exceptions

In my estimation, formed long ago as I tried to make sense of 9/11, Fetzer is a disinformation agent.

[ThePythonicCow]

Dimitri Orlov has accumulated a list of links to 59 Youtube videos of people who were at the Route 91 Harvest Festival the night of 1 October 2017, reporting on what they heard and saw -- the gun shots, the blood, the dead: http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2017/10/the-limits-of-gullibility.html.

I've listened to a couple of the videos - they tell a horrific tale.

[turiya]

Ole Dammegard Interview going into the Masonic / Freemasonry / Deep-State elements of the multiple gunmen Las Vegas shooting...

Ole Dammegard Caravan Interview
on the Las Vegas Shooting
(Published Oct 17, 2017)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=AkGvFqtpjWg

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Freeman High School in Rockford, Washington...
...Deadly shooting at the high school Wednesday, Sept. 13, 2017

Photo: Dan Pelle, MBO
(Dan Pelle/The Spokesman-Review via AP)
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Product Placement by photographer David Becker/getty images... Malibu Rum

Photo by David Becker/getty images



Malibu Rum was among the exhibitors. Photo: David Becker/WireImage.com

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The Biggest Company
You've Never Heard Of
(Dec 30, 2009)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=szNLMtgI7hU

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Paul (here)
Continuing the analysis, and now relying on Miles Mathis' latest paper, Las Vegas Hoax. Another multi-layer melange of impossibilities and planted liars (pdf), it seems as plain as day now that several of the early dramatic images that we saw of people trying to escape the gun fire were staged.

Consider (as Miles does) the following image:

Posted by LadyM (here)
I was a journalist for 10+ years. If I had been assigned to do an article on that concert, I would not be standing there taking notes with it raining bullets and people running, injured and killed. I don't think it would be crazy to question why Becker was there. Did Getty assign him to take photos of the concert? Was the concert that big of a deal for Getty to send a photographer to take photos? It could be that he went for a local paper, but the shooting images were bought by Getty.

Posted by turiya (here)
Product Placement by photographer David Becker/getty images... Malibu Rum


Photo by David Becker/getty images

Aha - Ole Dammegard may have solved the mystery of the first image above, of the people hiding behind and climbing over the low fence.

Ole Dammegard has become an expert in studying how such false flags are done, in both Europe and the US.

He observes that many of the images shown after a major false flag were shot in the days leading up to the event, during the drills that are done before hand.

My guess now is that both images above were not shot on the night of October 1, but during the FEMA drills that took place in the days preceeding.

[Did You See Them]

Ellen interview with Campos.

https://streamable.com/u95l9

He was shot 6 mins BEFORE the crowd was fired on yet he says he heard what he thought was drilling then realized it was automatic fire.

So when did he get shot ?

[Tintin]

Posted by Did You See Them (here)
Ellen interview with Campos.

https://streamable.com/u95l9

He was shot 6 mins BEFORE the crowd was fired on yet he says he heard what he thought was drilling then realized it was automatic fire.

So when did he get shot ?

Um, very sceptical at the moment about anything tied to the names of Campo, Paddock or ISIS or gun-running - not buying any of it. The narrative being framed by MSM is so ridiculous, and made up completely, by design to distract. If any of these individuals or ISIS had anything whatsoever to do with this whole mess then I'll eat my words. Don't believe a word of it, today. I think this MSM narrative has begun to eat itself.

[TargeT]

Posted by Paul (here)
My guess now is that both images above were not shot on the night of October 1, but during the FEMA drills that took place in the days preceeding.

who's job was it to cover the ground in trash for the drill, then clean it up, where would you even source that many clean empty bottles and beer cans?

The expense of that alone makes that theory less workable.

Or maybe they are just getting better at attention to detail with these things?

[mgray]

Posted by Paul (here)
Continuing the analysis, and now relying on Miles Mathis' latest paper, Las Vegas Hoax. Another multi-layer melange of impossibilities and planted liars (pdf), it seems as plain as day now that several of the early dramatic images that we saw of people trying to escape the gun fire were staged.

Consider (as Miles does) the following image:

The guy far left with the cocktail in his hand tells me he is not to stressed or had to do much physical maneuvers to get there.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by TargeT (here)
who's job was it to cover the ground in trash for the drill, then clean it up, where would you even source that many clean empty bottles and beer cans?

The expense of that alone makes that theory less workable.

Perhaps they run the drill at oh-dark-hundred (early morning, an hour or two after a real, public, event, before the ground crew cleans up anyway, the next morning) ?

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Paul (here)
Dimitri Orlov has accumulated a list of links to 59 Youtube videos of people who were at the Route 91 Harvest Festival the night of 1 October 2017, reporting on what they heard and saw -- the gun shots, the blood, the dead: http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2017/10/the-limits-of-gullibility.html.

I've listened to a couple of the videos - they tell a horrific tale.

I listened to parts of another dozen of these ... I'm getting the sense that most of the interviews done "live on scene by the major media" that night are scripted, not real. There are too many people saying almost the same thing with similar wording and insufficient deep stress.

I'm also getting the sense that the video of the people running, or on the ground, that is being shown in the background during these news clips is video that was shot during the drills the previous days, as there are too few people, no blood or gore, and too little panic. The automatic weapons fire in these videos might well be overlayed sound, not the actual sound at the time of the real shooting. Much of this video shown on the major media over the next day has the Mandalay Bay building in the background ... planting that connection of the Mandalay Bay with this shooting in the viewer's mind.

I've little doubt that the content of this first day's main stream news reports was rougly planned out ahead of time, and not left to chance. The news media is not interviewing actual victims.

Ole Dammegard's comments, in his interview above with John B Wells on The Caravan to Midnight, helped shift my perceptions of these early interviews, video, sound tracks, ... Dammegard and Wells are two of the finest.

[Noelle]

Posted by mgray (here)

Posted by Paul (here)
Continuing the analysis, and now relying on Miles Mathis' latest paper, Las Vegas Hoax. Another multi-layer melange of impossibilities and planted liars (pdf), it seems as plain as day now that several of the early dramatic images that we saw of people trying to escape the gun fire were staged.

Consider (as Miles does) the following image:

The guy far left with the cocktail in his hand tells me he is not to stressed or had to do much physical maneuvers to get there.

Very interesting. I know, the cowboy hat-wearing guy really stands out as odd. He sits holding his drink with hundreds of empty drink containers scattered in the foreground. My first thoughts were that someone at Getty, owned by Carlyle, I believe, assigned the photographer to the concert, knowing what would go down that night.

[Noelle]

Posted by mgray (here)

Posted by Paul (here)
Continuing the analysis, and now relying on Miles Mathis' latest paper, Las Vegas Hoax. Another multi-layer melange of impossibilities and planted liars (pdf), it seems as plain as day now that several of the early dramatic images that we saw of people trying to escape the gun fire were staged.

Consider (as Miles does) the following image:

The guy far left with the cocktail in his hand tells me he is not to stressed or had to do much physical maneuvers to get there.

He appears in a couple of other photos too that were circulated by MSM.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by Star Tsar (here)
Kerry talks with Dr. James Fetzer ( jamesfetzer.blogspot.com/ ) and Dr. Scott Bennett ...

From the few snippets of this that I just listened to now, this is not a particularly helpful interview.

Right! It's actually pretty dreadful.

[turiya]

The photographer of the Las Vegas
shooting thought it was a false alarm
until he saw his pictures


People scramble for shelter at the Route 91 Harvest country music festival.
(Photo by David Becker/Getty Images)

David Becker is a freelance photographer. On Oct. 1, he was assigned to photograph the Route 91 Harvest country music festival in Las Vegas for Getty Images. But in a matter of seconds, his job changed from covering a slate of the biggest country music acts to covering the largest mass shooting in modern US history.

His photos offer a rare inside perspective into the chaos and confusion that emerged from the night. In a statement provided to Quartz from Getty Images, the photographer recalls his steps:

After capturing photographs of the final act of the Route 91 Harvest country music festival, I headed back to the media tent to start filing my photographs. After about 5-10 minutes I heard very loud popping sounds and I went outside to see what was happening and a security guy said it was just “fire crackers”, so I went back to work. The second time I heard the popping sounds somebody said to me “it was just speakers or sound equipment” and again, I went back into the media tent and continued to work. Then the noises went again and that was when the crowd started to flee.

Once the crowd started to flee I went outside and saw a lot of people panicking and running for the exit that was right by the media tent. I grabbed my camera and went back outside and found a place where I could see what was happening and also wouldn’t be in the way of people, so I stood on a table and started to shoot – thinking to myself still, that this isn’t really happening, it’s just the speakers popping. It was so dark I couldn’t really see what was happening, there were a lot of people crying, speaking on cell phones and ducking for cover. As the crowd thinned out I was able to go a little closer to try and see what was going on and take some more pictures, and I’m still thinking to myself “it’s just the speakers, there is nothing going on”.

There were groups of people helping each other everywhere and a real sense of people running for cover. People were fleeing, they were panicking. The gun fire was sporadic, it would stop and then more shots, then a lull and then more shots. I could hear people yelling at them to shut off the lights, to be quiet. People were cowering, they were very fearful for their lives. A woman tripped right in front of me, a man shielded a woman with his body before I saw them both get up and run away, a man in a wheelchair was helped to an exit. I was trying to capture anything that was moving and that had good lighting. That was critical, it was so dark and there was limited lighting it was really hard to get a sense of what was happening. At this stage I still just thought it was a speaker popping, so I was trying to capture people’s emotions and a sense of the panic that was around me.

I went back into the media tent and called my colleague to see if he could find out what was happening, as I still didn’t know what was going on, and he said that he had found out that the police had called a Code Red and set up a perimeter. It was then I started looking at my photographs and what I was seeing was just unbelievable. It had been so dark outside I couldn’t see the details, I just saw a lot of people laying on the ground thinking they were playing possum, but now I could see people covered in blood and I thought, this is real. When I saw the image of the woman lying on the ground covered in blood, that was when the impact of what I was experiencing hit; when I realized people were dying.

I kept editing and filing my photographs, the power had been cut so I was working off the light of my laptop, until after 5-10 minutes everyone was evacuated and I was escorted to my car. I worked the rest of the night and into the morning capturing the police officers moving in and the wounded helping each other on the streets.

When I stop and think, it’s hard to comprehend what I witnessed. I was on autopilot, just doing my job capturing what was happening, which I think is important. Impactful images like these tell a story, they move people to think twice about doing anything like this, they move governments to change policies to prevent horrific acts like these happening again. I’ve been doing this work for many years and it is instinct to photograph first and ask questions later. It probably seems irrational to just walk out and take pictures of people running for cover, but that is second nature for a photojournalist.

Source: QUARTZ

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A Closer Look at Getty Images....

Getty Images
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Getty Images, Inc. is an American stock photo agency, with headquarters in Seattle, Washington, United States. It is a supplier of stock images for business and consumers with an archive of 80 million still images and illustrations and more than 50,000 hours of stock film footage. It targets three markets—creative professionals (advertising and graphic design), the media (print and online publishing), and corporate (in-house design, marketing and communication departments).

Getty has distribution offices around the world and capitalizes on the Internet and CD-ROM collections for distribution. As Getty has acquired other older photo agencies and archives, it has digitized their collections, enabling online distribution. Getty Images now operates a large commercial website which allows clients to search and browse for images, purchase usage rights and download images. Costs of images vary according to the chosen resolution and type of rights associated with each image. The company also offers custom photo services for corporate clients.

Contents

• 1 History
• 2 Acquisitions
• 3 Corporate ownership and management
• 4 Copyright enforcement
• 5 Copyright infringement lawsuits
• 6 Prestige Grant
• 7 Renowned photographers
• 8 See also
• 9 References
• 10 External links

History

The Getty Images gallery at Eastcastle Street, London.

In 1995, Mark Getty and Chief Executive Officer Jonathan Klein co-founded Getty Investments LLC. Mark Getty is the company's chairman. In September 1997, Getty Communications, as it was called at the time, merged with PhotoDisc, Inc. to form Getty Images. In April 2003, Getty Images entered into a partnership with Agence France-Presse (AFP) to market each other's images.[1]

Getty Images acquired the Michael Ochs Archives in February 2007.[2] The Michael Ochs Archives were described by The New York Times as "the premier source of musician photography in the world".[3]

In 2008, the private equity firm Hellman & Friedman (H&F) acquired Getty Images. In 2012, H&F put Getty up for sale.[4] As of the ensuing sale to Carlyle Group, the company was said to have an archive that included 80 million stills and illustrations.[5]

In 2015, Jonathan Klein became the company's chairman and Dawn Airey was hired as Chief executive officer (CEO) of Getty Images.[6][7][8]

Acquisitions

PhotoDisc's online image sales website (2000)

The Hulton Archive website (2001)

Since its formation, Getty Images has pursued an aggressive programme of acquisition, buying up many privately owned agencies that had built up the stock photography industry, from small family-run firms to larger agencies. By 1999 it had acquired one of the largest agencies, Tony Stone Images; the online art seller Art.com; the sports photography agency Allsport; the market leader in the Benelux and Scandinavia: Word View (1996, from Mr. Bert Blokhuis, 4 offices, for undisclosed sum); journalistic specialists Liaison Agency; Newsmakers the first digital news photo agency; Online USA, a specialist in celebrity shots; and the Hulton Press Library, the former archive of the British photojournalistic magazine Picture Post. The Hulton collection was sold by the BBC to Brian Deutsch in 1988, when it was renamed Hulton Deutsch. In 1996, the Hulton collection was sold on once more, this time purchased by Getty Images and renamed Hulton Getty. With the acquisition of the Hulton library, Getty Images took ownership of the rights to some 15 million photographs from the British press archives dating back to the Nineteenth Century. Hulton Getty also included photographs from the Keystone Collection, as well as images by notable photographers such as Bert Hardy, Bill Brandt, Weegee and Ernst Haas.[9]

Getty has branched out into stock audio, music and sound effects. And also video with the acquisition of EyeWire and Energy Film Library.[10] Getty has partnered with other companies including Slidely for companies and advertisers to use the Getty Images video library of around 2 million videos.[11]

In 2000, Getty acquired one of its main competitors, Archive Photos of New York (a division of The Image Bank), for US$183 million.[10] The Archive Photos library was combined with the Hulton Getty collection to form a new subsidiary, Hulton Archive. Archive Photos had been formed in 1990 from the merger of Pictorial Parade (est. 1935) and Frederick Lewis Stock Photos (est. 1938), two well-established US photo agencies. Their collections included archive images from The New York Times, Metronome and George Eastman House, and works by photographers such as Ruth Orkin, Anacleto Rapping, Deborah Feingold, Murray Garrett, Nat Fein and John Filo.[9]

Further acquisitions followed, with the purchase in 2004 of image.net for US$20 million.[12] On February 9, 2006, the microstock photo website iStockphoto was acquired by Getty Images for US$50 million.[13] In 2007, Getty successfully purchased its largest competitor, MediaVast, for $207 million. The acquisition meant that Getty Images gained control of WireImage (Entertainment, creative, and sports photography), FilmMagic (fashion and red carpet photography), Contour Photos (portrait and studio photography). Getty Images also acquired a host of other subsidiaries including "Master Delegates" who include: Isifa Image Service in Prague, Laura Ronchi in Italy.[14]

On October 23, 2008, Getty Images announced their intention to buy Jupitermedia's online images division, Jupiterimages, for $96 million in cash.[15] The sale went ahead in February 2009; Jupiterimages (including the sites stock.xchng and StockXpert) is now a wholly owned subsidiary of Getty, while Jupitermedia, now trading as WebMediaBrands, continues its internet publishing business which was not sold to Getty Images.[16]

On January 25, 2016, Corbis announced that it had sold its image licensing business, including the Corbis Images, Corbis Motion and Veer libraries and their associated assets, to an affiliate of Visual China Group—Getty's exclusive distributor in China. Concurrently, it was announced that VCG would, after a transition period, license distribution and marketing of the Corbis library outside of China to Getty. The firm will also be responsible for managing Corbis's physical archives.[17][18]

Corporate ownership and management

In February 2008, it was announced that Getty Images would be acquired by the private equity firm Hellman & Friedman in a transaction valued at an estimated US$2.4 billion.[19] On July 2, 2008, Getty Images announced the completion of its acquisition. Getty Images common stock ceased trading on the New York Stock Exchange at the close of the acquisition and was delisted from the NYSE.[20]

In 2012, H&F engaged investment bankers to sell the company. While a price of $4 billion was initially discussed, in August when the private equity firm Carlyle Group emerged as the likely acquirer, the price under consideration was said to be $3.3–3.4 billion. CVC Capital Partners Ltd. was also said to have been bidding but had yet to top Carlyle's price.[4] The sale to Carlyle thereafter was announced at $3.3 billion, with co-founders Getty and Klein and the Getty family all carrying their investments over into the new ownership structure. Getty will also continue to serve as chairman and Klein as chief executive.[5]

Copyright enforcement

An image available at Getty Images, displaying a watermark with "Getty Images", the author's name, and a file-ID number. This watermark exists on all images on Getty Images when previewing the images, to prevent piracy.

Beginning in 2008, Getty Images has created controversy in its manner of pursuing copyright enforcement on behalf of its photographers. Rather than pursue a policy of sending out "cease and desist" notices, Getty typically mails out a demand letter claiming substantial sums of damages to owners of websites which it believes have used their images in infringement of their photographers' copyright. Getty commonly tries to intimidate website owners by sending collection agents, even though a demand letter cannot create a debt.[21]

One photographer noted: "courts don't like to be used as a means of extortion." In one case, Getty sent a church in Lichfield, Staffordshire, a £6,000 bill for photographs used on its website, apparently placed there by a church volunteer. In this case, the church offered to pay Getty what it thought was a reasonable amount. The diocese's communications director said:

Getty was not playing ball or following the normal litigation or dispute resolution procedures and [I advised the church] to ignore them. We don't deal with bullies; we deal with legal threats appropriately. I told [Getty] by letter that's what [the church was] doing, that we were not going to play, and didn't hear any more.[21]

The Guardian described other instances in which Getty or other stock photo businesses dropped the matter when a website owner refused to pay and hired a lawyer. A law firm was quoted as saying: "Once we get involved generally Getty does back off."[21]

In 2009, Oscar Michelen, a New York attorney who focuses on such damages claims, said: "The damages they're requesting aren't equal to the copyright infringement," and "there's no law that says definitively what images are worth in the digital age."[22] He called Getty's effort to assess four-figure fines "a legalized form of extortion."[22]

In an effort to combat online copyright infringement, in March 2014 Getty Images made over 35 million images available free for non-commercial online use via embedding with attribution and a link back to the Getty Images website.[23][24] According to Getty Images executive Craig Peters, "The principle is to turn what's infringing use with good intentions, turning that into something that's valid licensed use with some benefits going back to the photographer".[25]

Copyright infringement lawsuits

In 2009, Car-Freshener Corp. filed a lawsuit against Getty Images in U.S. Federal Court, Northern District New York (Case 7:09-cv-01252-GTS -GHL).[26] Car-Freshener claimed that Getty Images had in its catalog photos that included the famous "tree-shaped" trademarked car fresheners. In 2011, Getty Images attempted to have the case dismissed, but its motion was denied.[27] In 2012, Getty Images agreed to settle by paying $100,000 to Car-Freshener Corp., but admitted no wrongdoing.[28]

In September 2013, Avril Nolan brought a $450,000 suit against Getty Images. Nolan alleged Getty Images improperly allowed her image to be used in advertisements depicting her as HIV-positive. She claimed the ad's depiction of her as HIV-positive (she is not infected by the disease) hurt her personal and professional relationships and caused her emotional distress.[29][30] In March 2014 a judge ruled the lawsuit will be taken to court rather than dismissed.[31] Getty Images settled with Nolan in January 2015.[32]

In November 2013, Getty and Agence France-Presse were ordered to pay $1.2 million compensation to freelance photojournalist Daniel Morel for using his images posted on Twitter related to the 2010 Haiti earthquake without his permission, in violation of copyright and Twitter's terms of service.[33][34]

In July 2016, Getty was sued, unsuccessfully, for over $1 billion by Carol Highsmith, an American photographer notable for donating her 100,000+ images collection, royalty-free, to the Library of Congress, when Highsmith found that Getty has been selling unauthorized licenses of her work.[35][36] Carol Highsmith found out about this when she received a letter from a law firm representing Getty demanding $120 for displaying her pictures on a personal website of hers.[37]

Prestige Grant

The Getty Images Prestige Grant is awarded to two commercial photographers to realise a dream project, awarding them USD$15,000 and $7,500 respectively. The first recipients, in 2015, were Lisa Barnard and Andy Lo Po.[38][39]

Renowned photographers

• David M Benett

Source: Wikipedia
[More references at the link...]

[RunningDeer]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by Paul (here)
Dimitri Orlov has accumulated a list of links to 59 Youtube videos of people who were at the Route 91 Harvest Festival the night of 1 October 2017, reporting on what they heard and saw -- the gun shots, the blood, the dead: http://cluborlov.blogspot.com/2017/10/the-limits-of-gullibility.html.

I've listened to a couple of the videos - they tell a horrific tale.

I listened to parts of another dozen of these ... I'm getting the sense that most of the interviews done "live on scene by the major media" that night are scripted, not real. There are too many people saying almost the same thing with similar wording and insufficient deep stress.

For those like me who looked for the videos on that page, first click “Read more” and the links 1-59 will drop down. (It may be how my browser worked.)

[norman]

I'm hearing a lot of people say, including Ole Dammegard, that "he" was unlikely to be such a good shooter to hit so many people, at such a distance.

My totally novice brain says, the crowd was like fish in a barrel. Just pulling the trigger while the gun was pointing in roughly the right direction was bound to hit a few people.

[TargeT]

Posted by norman (here)
I'm hearing a lot of people say, including Ole Dammegard, that "he" was unlikely to be such a good shooter to hit so many people, at such a distance.

My totally novice brain says, the crowd was like fish in a barrel. Just pulling the trigger while the gun was pointing in roughly the right direction was bound to hit a few people.

I'm quite surprised there were not MUCH higher casualties after hearing the audio of the gun fire....

I also think the very low number of fatalities (and it was low, given the situation... IMO) is very interesting and lends to the "cover for sniper fire" possibility or several other possibilities.

[Cidersomerset]

Kerry talks with Dr. James Fetzer ( jamesfetzer.blogspot.com/ ) and Dr.
Scott Bennett, author and former officer with a high level clearance inside a US
military PSYOPS division, about all the evidence surrounding the Mandalay Bay
shooting in Vegas

I still find it hard to believe this is all fake , as we know on 9/11 thousands
actually died with all the other things going on , and drills are usually happening
as in 7/7 enabling it to go live to keep control of the situation depending how big
the event/psyop is going to be.

I know this stinks and its hard to process everything and many of the vids
and summaries are good and its difficult enough to get people to look at
the material presented on the web , by experts and interested persons.
But to say no one died , we need real hard proof or we will loose credibility
and we won't get past the first hurdle of mainstream coverage as if anyone
did get on Fox , CNN , BBC ,ABC etc they will instantly be called a 'conspiracy
theorist ' as coined by the CIA to discourage JFK questions.

If they are actually able to pull off a movie set as suggested by Jim Fetzer
talking to Kerry we are ------- . I know all about crisis actors and have done
several posts on them and they are used in drills that can develop into events.
Though this would be another level and many of the vids of the crowd seem
genuine with all the confusion that would happen at this type of event.

If this can be proven this was all fake I will congratulate them. Though the
actual Stephen Paddock and one shooter narrative does not fit for all the
reasons expressed in the previous posts. Somewhere amongst it all is the
truth and we will not get it from the FBI .



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Talking of cover ups by the FBI I just saw this article....I suppose we will know next week.

Has Trump Cut a Deal with the CIA and FBI to Keep Concealing Key JFK
Assassination Documents?
https://www.alternet.org/has-trump-c...et-jfk-records

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PRISON PLANET.COM

Vegas Survivor Who Died Suddenly Had Planned Group To Expose Cover-Up

Kymberley Suchomel believed media was covering up multiple shooters

Adan Salazar..Prison Planet.com
October 17, 2017

A woman who died days after surviving the ill-fated October 1 country music
festival in Las Vegas wanted to organize a survivor’s group in order to flesh out the
strange event, Facebook conversations reveal.

Kymberley Suchomel, 28, died suddenly on October 9 at her Apple Valley,
California, residence five days after posting her version of events to Facebook.


In the days following the massacre, friends reached out to Suchomel over a
October 4 post in which she described someone setting off “fire crackers” near the
venue, and detailed being chased by numerous people, concluding at one
point “There was more than one gun firing. 100% more than one.”

One long-time friend of Suchomel’s, who asked to remain anonymous, provided
Infowars with screenshots of a conversation he’d had with her, in which she
indicated planning to “organize a group of survivors” in order “to piece things
together.”

read more...
https://www.prisonplanet.com/vegas-s...-cover-up.html

[ghostrider]

Remember fast n furious??? Steven paddock was an undercover FBI agent running guns to Isis terrorists in America, Isis found out, killing him , then went on a shooting spree ... The reason for all the cameras was paddock was running a sting for the FBI ... It all went south, anonymous hacked the emails between the FBI and Vegas police... There were multiple shooters ... And that's why the official story makes no sense...