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    Quote Posted by Phoenix1304 (here)
    The three videos are all islamophobic propaganda designed to demonise and dehumanise Muslims.

    POTUS giving succour to UK-based fascists...”.

    I don’t have the tech savvy to post the vids
    Muslim Destroys a Statue of Virgin Mary!


    Islamist mob pushes teenage boy off roof and beats him to death

    Tweet with the video found here of Boy on a Crutch. Below is the boy on a crutch commentary and one pic.

    Muslim Migrants Spot Lone White Boy On Crutches, Leaves Victim With Sick Surprise

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    BBC just published an article related to Trump retweeting the videos. The article points to filter bubbles, which I am still trying to understand better. I'm not big on Twitter, so don't know how it all works yet.

    The BBC article, Trump, Twitter and his 'filter bubble', begins:

    Although his main Twitter account has nearly 44 million followers, President Donald Trump chooses to follow just 45 other Twitter users - all of whom agree with him, most of the time.

    Now that seeming reluctance to expose himself to alternative viewpoints is being put forward as a possible factor in the president's decision to retweet three videos by a far-right UK group.

    Social media experts call it the "filter bubble" - the ability to choose only the news and views that we agree with.

    Earlier this year, Microsoft founder Bill Gates warned against the negative effects of the filter bubble, which he said increasingly prevented people from "mixing and sharing and understanding other points of view".

    "It's turned out to be more of a problem than I, or many others, would have expected, " he told the Quartz website.

    Sometimes the bubble is automatic, created for us by a combination of our browsing history data, plus the algorithms of Facebook and Google. The end result: posts, people and stories that conform to our individual world view.

    Sometimes we get to build our own bubble, by deliberately cutting ourselves off from dialogue with people who don't agree with us.

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    Truth and censorship.

    Maybe it's just anti-violence.

    Too much spin.

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    Just sit back and enjoy the show... there's nothing we can do about it... EVERYTHING will unfold,.. it will be what it will be...

    ALL will be revealed
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    Thanks for going to the effort to post those vids Running Deer, my own filter bubble (aside from Twitter controlling the feed) causes me to avoid watching or spreading inflammatory material, (I still haven’t watched them) I struggle enough in UK with the fear porn of Muslims taking over, the fear and hatred is palpable here now as demographically white Christian Brits are a minority and the depressing TV dramatisation of The Handmaid’s Tale seems all too close to manifesting.

    But as you say Kiwi there’s not much we can do but sit back and watch with glimmers of hope the only antidote to the overwhelming sense of impotence. Those glimmers being Trump as Saviour and spiritual warriors hard at work.

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    merry christmas from wikileaks ( just slow the speed down and read the docs shown kim jong war on hollywood "? etc.
    )

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    Thanks for going to the effort to post those vids Running Deer, my own filter bubble (aside from Twitter controlling the feed) causes me to avoid watching or spreading inflammatory material, (I still haven’t watched them) I struggle enough
    Like you, Phoenix1304, I passed on the videos. I only watched a few seconds of the boy on the crutch to make sure it was the correct one. The energy expended in pain, anger and suffering with the reruns in my head benefit the tyrannys' intentional design. My head is not in the sand. It’s one of the counter strategies I use to help turn things around on the planet. Generally speaking, I ask myself why do I want to pass along this material to friends and family? Is it to inform? Or it’s to ease my own suffering?

    The seen and unseen promoters of keeping the frequencies in 3D lockdown only serve to strengthen my resolved to advance in ways I’ve yet to understand.


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    Quote Posted by LadyM (here)
    The article points to filter bubbles, which I am still trying to understand better. I'm not big on Twitter, so don't know how it all works yet.
    it's talking about a version of confirmation bias "filter bubbles" is a sociological behavior term (in this case it is aided by algorithms in software and search history, but it's still the same concept) , an awkward way of saying that you are in an echo chamber where everyone agrees with you and you shun dissenting information.

    That's today's "journalists" way of explaining things I suppose... the epic's of prose in our time.... SO SAD!

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    But as you say Kiwi there’s not much we can do but sit back and watch with glimmers of hope the only antidote to the overwhelming sense of impotence. Those glimmers being Trump as Saviour and spiritual warriors hard at work.
    That's about the most dis-empowering collection of words I've heard in a long time.

    There's a LOT you can do, start making YOUR community better, pick up people who need rides, grab that piece of trash as you walk buy it.. BE the example you want to see in others.

    There is ALWAYS something you can do to make things better, and you have to, it's a constant struggle (and the only way WE get better is to struggle).

    This whole thread is starting to make me think it's another "let the aliens come and save us" but that didn't work.... so now it's "let the super spies come and save us"

    Either way the outcome seems to be the same:

    Sit back and do nothing while "bigger things" "unfold".

    I will always disagree with that type of sentiment and truly hope I"m wrong here, but I've yet to see any ACTUAL great things happen....

    It's starting to smell of charles/atticus in here....
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    Quote Posted by TargeT (here)
    Quote Posted by LadyM (here)
    The article points to filter bubbles, which I am still trying to understand better. I'm not big on Twitter, so don't know how it all works yet.
    it's talking about a version of confirmation bias "filter bubbles" is a sociological behavior term (in this case it is aided by algorithms in software and search history, but it's still the same concept) , an awkward way of saying that you are in an echo chamber where everyone agrees with you and you shun dissenting information.

    That's today's "journalists" way of explaining things I suppose... the epic's of prose in our time.... SO SAD!

    Quote Posted by Phoenix1304 (here)
    But as you say Kiwi there’s not much we can do but sit back and watch with glimmers of hope the only antidote to the overwhelming sense of impotence. Those glimmers being Trump as Saviour and spiritual warriors hard at work.
    That's about the most dis-empowering collection of words I've heard in a long time.

    There's a LOT you can do, start making YOUR community better, pick up people who need rides, grab that piece of trash as you walk buy it.. BE the example you want to see in others.

    There is ALWAYS something you can do to make things better, and you have to, it's a constant struggle (and the only way WE get better is to struggle).

    This whole thread is starting to make me think it's another "let the aliens come and save us" but that didn't work.... so now it's "let the super spies come and save us"

    Either way the outcome seems to be the same:

    Sit back and do nothing while "bigger things" "unfold".

    I will always disagree with that type of sentiment and truly hope I"m wrong here, but I've yet to see any ACTUAL great things happen....

    It's starting to smell of charles/atticus in here....
    The BBC article did not do a good job explaining it. But thanks, TargeT, for shedding some more light on it.

    I don't think KiwiElf meant "do nothing" in the broader sense, but rather there is not too much we can do in what may be going on behind the scenes as far as Trump and the Deep State go, plans and activities that we can't know about. At least that's my take on that post.

    I, for one, have never been a do-nothing person. In my friend/family circle and in my community, I constantly try to set examples. Nor am I looking for any saviors. I want to take part in my/our saving, that's for sure. Will the Q movement help bring it on? I think it's creating momentum.

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    Real change has to start at the local level as C.A. Fitts & JoefromtheCarolinas so ably point out! Yes, TargeT, there IS something we can do!

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    That's EXACTLY what I meant LadyM...

    Quote I don't think KiwiElf meant "do nothing" in the broader sense, but rather there is not too much we can do in what may be going on behind the scenes as far as Trump and the Deep State go, plans and activities that we can't know about. At least that's my take on that post.
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    I'm going to borrow a quote from Bill:

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...56#post1193956

    It applies equally here... (added emphasis mine)

    Quote Project Avalon is chronicling that a LOT of people are becoming more awake and aware not only to demonstrable facts, real events, and other phenomena (aided by the internet, for sure), but also to psy-ops of every kind.

    But not everyone is becoming more awake and aware.
    Some, taken in by what they see on the internet, compounded by their lack of knowledge and/or ability to use critical thinking, are not becoming more awake at all, and in some cases may be slipping in the opposite direction.
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    Quote Posted by TargeT (here)
    Quote Posted by LadyM (here)
    The article points to filter bubbles, which I am still trying to understand better. I'm not big on Twitter, so don't know how it all works yet.
    it's talking about a version of confirmation bias "filter bubbles" is a sociological behavior term (in this case it is aided by algorithms in software and search history, but it's still the same concept) , an awkward way of saying that you are in an echo chamber where everyone agrees with you and you shun dissenting information.

    That's today's "journalists" way of explaining things I suppose... the epic's of prose in our time.... SO SAD!

    Quote Posted by Phoenix1304 (here)
    But as you say Kiwi there’s not much we can do but sit back and watch with glimmers of hope the only antidote to the overwhelming sense of impotence. Those glimmers being Trump as Saviour and spiritual warriors hard at work.
    That's about the most dis-empowering collection of words I've heard in a long time.

    There's a LOT you can do, start making YOUR community better, pick up people who need rides, grab that piece of trash as you walk buy it.. BE the example you want to see in others.

    There is ALWAYS something you can do to make things better, and you have to, it's a constant struggle (and the only way WE get better is to struggle).

    This whole thread is starting to make me think it's another "let the aliens come and save us" but that didn't work.... so now it's "let the super spies come and save us"

    Either way the outcome seems to be the same:

    Sit back and do nothing while "bigger things" "unfold".

    I will always disagree with that type of sentiment and truly hope I"m wrong here, but I've yet to see any ACTUAL great things happen....

    It's starting to smell of charles/atticus in here....
    This message seems contradictory. It seems a condemnation of disempowerment, then disempowerment through discrediting. Leaves me wondering???

    To me, this thread is not about believing or trusting one person or one source of information, but a collaboration of researchers who are providing valuable information and links, as well as further questioning, that is bringing truth to light.

    I've learned a lot. Anyone else learning anything?

    For example, I followed a topic to discover this related information.

    Fusion Centers--Tom Lozich-- Las Vegas Shootings
    *****************************************************************
    Las Vegas Fusion Center is a Model for Public-Private Collaboration
    http://www.govtech.com/em/safety/Las...on-052411.html

    "What happens in Las Vegas is filtered through unique layers of security and vetted by the fusion center."

    72 Fusion Centers across the nation

    Fusion Centers Locations and Contact Information
    https://www.dhs.gov/fusion-center-lo...ct-information
    ******************************************************************
    Tom Lozich works for Homeland Security
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    *He also worked with the Las Vegas Metro Police Dept for 30 years.
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    https://www.zoominfo.com/p/Tom-Lozich/1448589273

    *****************************************************************************
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    The Problem with public private partnerships --"...Plunder the Public Purse..."
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    A Clinton-Obama inspired document: Public-Private Partnerships in National Cyber Security Strategies
    https://www.chathamhouse.org/sites/f..._1_03_Carr.pdf

    "'Technological development enhances two trends that diminish the importance of the state...: increasing internationalism and increasing privatization.'"
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    **Why does "private-public partnership" sound like or lead to money laundering?**
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    "Private - Public Partnerships are government sanctioned MONOPOLIES "
    http://www.newswithviews.com/DeWeese/tom90.htm

    *******
    I'll cross link it to the Las Vegas shooting thread because it is related. But the research stemmed from something I read on 8 chan.

    What IS happening is that more truth is coming to light. What do you think that might lead to?
    Something majorly positive!

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    Quote Posted by Desert Dreamer (here)
    Quote Posted by TargeT (here)
    Quote Posted by LadyM (here)
    The article points to filter bubbles, which I am still trying to understand better. I'm not big on Twitter, so don't know how it all works yet.
    it's talking about a version of confirmation bias "filter bubbles" is a sociological behavior term (in this case it is aided by algorithms in software and search history, but it's still the same concept) , an awkward way of saying that you are in an echo chamber where everyone agrees with you and you shun dissenting information.

    That's today's "journalists" way of explaining things I suppose... the epic's of prose in our time.... SO SAD!

    Quote Posted by Phoenix1304 (here)
    But as you say Kiwi there’s not much we can do but sit back and watch with glimmers of hope the only antidote to the overwhelming sense of impotence. Those glimmers being Trump as Saviour and spiritual warriors hard at work.
    That's about the most dis-empowering collection of words I've heard in a long time.

    There's a LOT you can do, start making YOUR community better, pick up people who need rides, grab that piece of trash as you walk buy it.. BE the example you want to see in others.

    There is ALWAYS something you can do to make things better, and you have to, it's a constant struggle (and the only way WE get better is to struggle).

    This whole thread is starting to make me think it's another "let the aliens come and save us" but that didn't work.... so now it's "let the super spies come and save us"

    Either way the outcome seems to be the same:

    Sit back and do nothing while "bigger things" "unfold".

    I will always disagree with that type of sentiment and truly hope I"m wrong here, but I've yet to see any ACTUAL great things happen....

    It's starting to smell of charles/atticus in here....
    This message seems contradictory. It seems a condemnation of disempowerment, then disempowerment through discrediting. Leaves me wondering???

    To me, this thread is not about believing or trusting one person or one source of information, but a collaboration of researchers who are providing valuable information and links, as well as further questioning, that is bringing truth to light.

    I've learned a lot. Anyone else learning anything?

    For example, I followed a topic to discover this related information.

    Fusion Centers--Tom Lozich-- Las Vegas Shootings
    *****************************************************************
    Las Vegas Fusion Center is a Model for Public-Private Collaboration
    http://www.govtech.com/em/safety/Las...on-052411.html

    "What happens in Las Vegas is filtered through unique layers of security and vetted by the fusion center."

    72 Fusion Centers across the nation

    Fusion Centers Locations and Contact Information
    https://www.dhs.gov/fusion-center-lo...ct-information
    ******************************************************************
    Tom Lozich works for Homeland Security
    https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/in-brief-925/

    Tom Lozich
    *He is the director of corporate security and surveillance at MGM
    *He also worked with the Las Vegas Metro Police Dept for 30 years.
    ***Nevada Homeland Security Division--(19 members) promoting immigration***
    ***MGM Resorts International (702) 693-7120

    https://www.zoominfo.com/p/Tom-Lozich/1448589273

    *****************************************************************************
    Public-Private Partnerships (P3)
    The Problem with public private partnerships --"...Plunder the Public Purse..."
    https://www.policyalternatives.ca/pu...e-partnerships

    A Clinton-Obama inspired document: Public-Private Partnerships in National Cyber Security Strategies
    https://www.chathamhouse.org/sites/f..._1_03_Carr.pdf

    "'Technological development enhances two trends that diminish the importance of the state...: increasing internationalism and increasing privatization.'"
    ***************************Sound like NWO??????*********************

    **Why does "private-public partnership" sound like or lead to money laundering?**
    https://www.nwo-i.nl/en/news/2013/02...e-partnership/

    "Private - Public Partnerships are government sanctioned MONOPOLIES "
    http://www.newswithviews.com/DeWeese/tom90.htm

    *******
    I'll cross link it to the Las Vegas shooting thread because it is related. But the research stemmed from something I read on 8 chan.

    What IS happening is that more truth is coming to light. What do you think that might lead to?
    Something majorly positive!

    🌀MM🌀
    I was ready to post something similar. I've learned so much over the last month, things that I may never have looked into. It's been an extreme exercise on connecting the dots and following the money. Feels like a boot camp. I had turned my back on MSM and social media, but now I'm using both to study what may be happening behind the scenes.

    I'm sharing my findings and other posts on this thread with those who are interested. Throughout, I'm maintaining discernment, confirming what I can as I chug along.

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    Quote Posted by Desert Dreamer (here)
    ...this thread is not about believing or trusting one person or one source of information, but a collaboration of researchers who are providing valuable information and links, as well as further questioning, that is bringing truth to light.

    I've learned a lot. Anyone else learning anything?
    ...right on!
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    I think you ALL have been doing a wonderful job!! Have just been listening to the 3 hr. Forum Borealis with JPF; interesting dot connecting there as well.

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    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
    Just sit back and enjoy the show... there's nothing we can do about it... EVERYTHING will unfold,.. it will be what it will be...

    ALL will be revealed
    Ben mention Trump was going after Amphetamine Supplies coming out of North Korea...

    He is using shots being fired at North Korean defector over the no conflict zone as a breach...

    They are implimenting a naval blockade and Now about to punish Chinese banks for money laundering...

    The Goldman Sachs - Tillerson oil God's are saying no...

    The battle rages on!!!

    https://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2...ile-response-/
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    Focus on Flynn. What is his background?

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    Michael Flynn (b 1958) is from Middleton, Rhode Island and graduated from the University of RI and the Reserved Officer Training Corps (ROTC) in 1981. He was commissioned as a 2nd Lieutenant in the US Army (Military Intelligence) the same year. He subsequently earned Master's degrees from Golden Gate University, The US Army Command and General Staff College, and the Naval War College. Among his tours: a COINT officer in Afghanistan.

    In 2012, he was appointed by President Obama as Director of the DIA (Defense Intelligence Agency) and was pressured out of office (by Obama) in 2014. He retired from the military and with his son, Michael G Flynn, established the Flynn Intel Group, an intelligence and lobbying firm. It was during this time he traveled to Moscow for an event honoring RT, the Russian media outlet, and was photographed with Vladimir Putin.

    He served 24 days as National Security Advisor in the Trump administration, the shortest stint in the office's history. On Dec 1, he plead guilty to lying to the FBI regarding conversations with Russia's ambassador and, as part of the negotiations, his son is not expected to be charged. Sources within the White House have indicated this shows no connection to President Trump.




    From 4chan:

    - As Director of the DIA, he discovered what Obama was up to and blew the whistle on his operation that was creating and funding jihadi groups that were later called ISIS.
    - He exposed the world's biggest ($25 Billion) terrorist sleeper cell headquartered in the US (the group was Radical Islamist - Fetullah Gulen's network. Gulen has a net worth of over $200 Billion).
    - He felt that critical INT passed back from the NATO INT groups was being leaked to the Kharzi mafia which was filtering back to the Taliban, and limiting the Surge's effectiveness. He was convinced this was partly due to to Obama's CIA under Pannetta attempting to subvert his and Gen Patreus' work in killing the heroin trade.
    - Flynn is a ghost and has been working with Trump from the beginning.

    What was his rank? Lieutenant General O-9, NATO OF-8
    Did he have any special access from intel ops? Brief access to the NSA files
    Why is this relevant? He was able to see behind the curtain

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    I was furious when Trump picked Flynn and found he was working for a Cut throat Dictator trying to commit Genocide on the Kurds.

    You want me to concentrate I will splatter the truth everywhere, Gulen is not the evil this source paints him to be.

    "He is the founder of the Gülen movement (known as Hizmet meaning service in Turkish), which is 3 to 6 million strong in Turkey and has an empire of affiliated banks, media, construction companies, and schools, especially those providing primary and secondary education, in Turkey (in which business entities and foundations have been closed down by the Turkish government by the thousands in 2017) and in Africa, Central Asia, the Americas, and Europe.". https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fethullah_G%C3%BClen

    Watch 4chan remember Turkey's Intelligence propoganda network can pop in and say anything.

    Erdogans closed over 300 Churches this year, one was 1700 years old...

    Yesterday I changed my Twitter profile message asking ICC to look into the nuke Iran set off under Kurdistan destroying 200,000 homes...

    Right after the change, Iran was slammed with a 6+ 25 miles from Bam Iran, 25 days before the Anniversary.

    Coincidence?
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    Thank you Rocky

    I am a 'normie' and just trying to figure things out along with everybody else. I feel every piece of information - tangential, erroneous, factual, or otherwise - is worth sifting through and examining.

    Keep calm and carry on!

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