The Qanon posts, and associated US political analysis

[A Voice from the Mountains]

Posted by Helene West (here)
Take the bolton thing. Alt/patriot hosts and vids were putting out he's there to disband the SES, Q says he's there to clean house. But all we can see with our lying eyes is that days after his appointment we're on the brink of war. Anxiety inducing events taking place and we're just told to enjoy the show....

I'm not nearly as concerned about this as I was about Obama moving NATO tanks and troops toward the border of Russia in the days and hours leading up to Trump's inauguration. Now THAT was terrifying. It was an act of desperation. But in the end it came to nothing.

This looks similar. It is an act of desperation. Another false flag, hoping on a wish and a prayer that the American people will have their tears jerked hard enough to pull them into yet another war. It didn't work last year and I don't think it will work this year either. Trump has more resources at his disposal at this point than Britain and Israeli combined. There are lots of tricks that we can pull too. Putin and Xi are both on our side on this one. We have lots of resources.

All we need is control of the narrative!

[Helene West]

@DNA
It just occurred to me - Job had a happy ending!

"...So the Lord blessed the second part of Job’s life more than the first. He had 14,000 sheep, 6,000 camels, 1,000 yoke of oxen, and 1,000 female donkeys. .....After this Job lived 140 years; he saw his children and their children to the fourth generation. And so Job died,old and full of days. (Job 11-17)"

lol...hey, this pessimist is trying....

[DNA]

Posted by A Voice from the Mountains (here)
All we need is control of the narrative!

Indeed! It is exasperating to no end to see friends, loved ones and acquaintances completely fooled into compliance and defense of the false narratives being pushed. Everything is about the narrative.
If the pope says there is no hell, then there is an agenda to control or alter a narrative at some point.
Even the daily news cycle of horror stories have an agenda and ultimately an aim at altering the narrative.
So many news articles about parents harming or killing their kids is a contribution to the "Your kids are not safe with you and need to be the charge of the Government" narrative.
Everything in the MSM is a lie or a manipulated truth used to further an over reaching narrative.
It's obvious to us, at what point does it become obvious to a near majority of the citizens of the world?

Posted by Helene West (here)
@DNA
It just occurred to me - Job had a happy ending!

"...So the Lord blessed the second part of Job’s life more than the first. He had 14,000 sheep, 6,000 camels, 1,000 yoke of oxen, and 1,000 female donkeys. .....After this Job lived 140 years; he saw his children and their children to the fourth generation. And so Job died,old and full of days. (Job 11-17)"

lol...hey, this pessimist is trying....

Wow, that blows me away. I swear in Sunday school I remember Job living impoverished and broken yet clinging to his faith in God until the day he died.
Well that is indeed a good slant on this.
I appreciate it.

[A Voice from the Mountains]

Posted by DNA (here)
It's obvious to us, at what point does it become obvious to a near majority of the citizens of the world?

Something shocking, earth-shattering, and undeniable must occur in front of the whole world. The curtain has to be pulled back on the Wizard of Oz for everyone to see. Until then it's just too easy to fall back into the default mentality they've cultivated for decades.

Funny, the real revolution might have to be televised after all, since media is where the real fight is happening. Watching them all have meltdowns on live TV when Trump was elected was pretty entertaining but not nearly enough. They will never stop. I felt disgusted earlier today watching Theresa May assure a room full of these "journalists" that we will quickly rush to do Israel's bidding, and not to worry. Like hell.

[A Voice from the Mountains]

Q:

Who is standing next to Pence & POTUS?
Message?
Bolton cleaning house.
Out they go!
A clean House is very important.
Q


The man standing next to Pence is Admiral Mike Rogers, head of the NSA, who met with Trump without Obama's permission during Obama's lame duck period, and briefed Trump on the intelligence operations being carried out against him. Rogers' unauthorized meeting was heavily criticized by Brennan's ilk, and they lobbied Obama to fire Rogers, but Obama knew better than to do that. Why? Because as many people have pointed out for years, whoever controls the NSA is an extremely powerful individual. A "king maker." They have access to EVERYTHING: surveillance from cell phones, satellites, military recon, TVs, computers... EVERYTHING. All over the world. Mike Rogers knows everything that has been going on and he has all he raw materials to prove it. Plus he is backed by the US military, in which he still a top-ranking officer as well. A very dangerous man to pick a fight with.

Admiral Rogers is a national hero and the implication here seems to be that Bolton is cleaning house at the direction of Rogers/NSA. Bolton is a cut-throat bureaucrat. He's the kind of guy that, if going through the normal channels doesn't work, he starts calling people and threatening the lives of their children (and he's actually been accused of that before). He's also Skull and Bones. He's not a nice man to have to deal with. But when you are dealing with other psychopaths who are trying to start WW3, thinking we can reset everything with kids gloves and without breaking some eggs in the process seems like wishful thinking. I have no illusions that these people are all angels. But as long as Rogers and Trump are giving him the orders, he may be useful.


Trouble is brewing for someone, and I wouldn't want it to be me.





Btw -- Jefferson and Jackson portraits. Two of my favorite presidents of all time. Good taste Mr. President!

[turiya]

Well, DNA / Helene...

Like everyone else, I cannot get into Trump's head to figure out what his next move is going to be... All I can really depend on is what my own sensitivites are telling me. Which I've come to trust - implicitly!

So, first of all, what I am being told is that Trump is not going into war over this so-called 'gas attack'. Nope - it ain't gonna happen.

Second, I really don't know how the Deep State is really going to end up taking this (most probably - not very well), but it is being suggested that Trump is going up head-to-head against what his war-mongering Pentagon generals are advising him to do, which is obviously a regime change in Syria with Assad, which would most certainly lead to a war with Russia, and probably China, as well. Going against the Pentagon generals will no doubt ramp up the war that is already presently going on between Trump & the Deep State war machine.

Certainly, it seems that Sessions should have been more up front with Trump prior to recusing himself on the Russian collusion side of things. As Trump said, if he knew that Jeff Sessions was going to recuse himself as he did, Trump would have selected a different Attorney General. This will undoubtedly lead to Hillary Clinton escaping prosecution - as in being the 'big fish' that ultimately got away.

However, there is a much, much bigger fish to fry. And, of course, that would be the giant octopus of the Deep State that has come to be attached at-the-hip to our present debt-based monetary Federal Reserve banking system. The Deep State needs the Fed in order to to maintain its existence, (i.e. launder the money it acquires through various nefarious activities). And Trump knows this!

Without the Fed, the whole big bad beast will end up going belly-up.

So, what I am getting from all this is that there is a show-down coming. A big, big showdown. Its going to get rough. How rough? God only knows. But that's what is coming. The grand daddy of all showdowns.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=8JqgYCRsERw

[DNA]

Posted by turiya (here)

However, there is a much, much bigger fish to fry. And, of course, that would be the giant octopus of the Deep State that has come to be attached at-the-hip to our present debt-based monetary Federal Reserve banking system. The Deep State needs the Fed in order to to maintain its existence, (i.e. launder the money it acquires through various nefarious activities). And Trump knows this!

Without the Fed, the whole big bad beast will end up going belly-up.

So, what I am getting from all this is that there is a show-down coming. A big, big showdown. Its going to get rough. How rough? God only knows. But that's what is coming. The grand daddy of all showdowns.

Thank you Turiya
Another caveat that I'm worried about is the Petrol-Yuan which has recently been unleashed by China.
The Birth Of The PetroYuan (In 2 Pictures)
Petro-Yuan Is The Newest Weapon For The China-Russia-Iran Anti-USD Alliance

I'm not sure if Trump was aware that the US Dollar is almost solely being propped up by the use of the military in the Middle East forcing countries to trade natural resources especially oil in American dollars, thus forcing all countries in the world to hold a reserve of US currency in which to purchase needed natural resources especially oil.
Have the deep state federal reserve syndicate threatened Trump with the not so admirable title of being the President who was on watch when America went bankrupt, belly up thus ushering the worst financial depression the United States has ever seen? Not to mention ushering in the rest of the world into this financial despair?
These Pentagon Generals can be very forceful personalities to be sure.
Have they convinced Trump that Syria and then WWIII with China and possibly Russia is the only way to save the US Petrol Dollar?

This video below was made in 2012 and it is right on the money in explaining the petrol dollar, Syria and our present head on collision with WWIII.
If one is not familiar with the petrol dollar situation this may be the best ten minute video you have ever watched.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HP7L8bw5QF4

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=HP7L8bw5QF4

[Cidersomerset]

JEROME CORSI (WASH,DC) QAnon Decodes Trump
Fight Against Deep State - ALEX JONES INFOWARS

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=xn6ky_JN5mo

Published on 10 Apr 2018

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Tucker: Why is Washington united behind a war in Syria?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-yba3R6IBY

Published on 10 Apr 2018
Tucker: Virtually all of official Washington, Republicans and Democrats, have united
behind the idea that the United States has a moral obligation to go deeper into war
in Syria after a suspected gas attack. Yet, our merely asking obvious questions, we
are told to shut up and just obey. #Tucker

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Alan Dershowitz on White House dinner, Cohen raid

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_oI2cYi480

Published on 10 Apr 2018
Harvard Law professor weighs in on 'Hannity.' He was at a pre arranged meeting
with Trump and his advisors over Israel and the Middle East...

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Devin Nunes threatens to impeach Wray, Rosenstein

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SeINAEJyIA
Published on 10 Apr 2018
Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee blasts the FBI and Department of
Justice for failing to provide the original document that prompted the Russia investigation.

[Cidersomerset]

Lionel with his legal hat runs through the facts in the court of the bleeding obvious...

Assad Would Be Legally Insane to Have Gassed His
Own People After Trump Said the US Is Leaving Syria

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=ZEtuTMjdYlI

Published on 10 Apr 2018
Is Assad a lunatic? Demented? Why would he gas his own people after he had
won against ISIS? This is Khan Shaykhun all over again. It just doesn't make
any sense. So, we';re to believe that Assad is not only evil but stark-raving mad?!

As that crazy leftie Tucker Carlson tweeted: Assume Assad used chlorine gas. Is
it worth starting a war? Overthrowing Assad results in chaos. Thousands die. We
might see genocide of one of the last Christian communities in the Mideast. Does
it make us safer? Region more stable? How’d regime change in Iraq & Libya end up?

And this from Ol' Tuck: Assume Assad used chlorine gas. Is it worth starting a war?
Overthrowing Assad results in chaos. Thousands die. We might see genocide of one
of the last Christian communities in the Mideast. Does it make us safer? Region more
stable? How’d regime change in Iraq & Libya end up?

Remember this from Newsweek: Lost in the hyper-politicized hullabaloo surrounding the
Nunes Memorandum and the Steele Dossier was the striking statement by Secretary of
Defense James Mattis that the U.S. has “no evidence” that the Syrian government used
the banned nerve agent Sarin against its own people.

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Syria 'chemical attack': Russia warns US against military action

11/4/18

Russia has urged the US to avoid taking military action in response to an alleged
chemical attack in Syria.

"I would once again beseech you to refrain from the plans that you're currently
developing," Moscow's UN envoy Vasily Nebenzia said on Tuesday.

He warned Washington that it will "bear responsibility" for any "illegal military
adventure" it carries out.

But Western leaders say they have agreed to work together to target those
responsible for the attack in Douma.French President Emmanuel Macron said any
strikes would target Syrian government chemical facilities.

read more....http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-43721057

[Cidersomerset]

Steve Pieczenik gives a good overview as he see's it .This is a replay of the last
few years with the main players Israel ,Saudi , Turkey and the CIA led US
agendas in the Middle east. He also comments on Mueller and other topics.
He is not as upbeat as he usually is and says the region should be left to the
players and Israel is pulling the strings in the main . Zuckerburg is a useful puppet.

Syrian Chemical Attack Is A False Flag To Start World War

The Alex Jones Channel

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=htLmcP3uRvI

Published on 10 Apr 2018
The Globalist cabal often repeats techniques out of the same playbook to
force the US into war, but the American people are beginning to catch-on.

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Okay healthy criticism is healthy for any leader even if it is gossip and
speculation in any democracy but this is globalist/intel led....


Speier: Trump will go down if Mueller is fired

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4nnZB7BMA8
Published on 10 Apr 2018
Rep. Jackie Speier (D-CA) tells CNN's Erin Burnett if President Donald Trump
fires special counsel Robert Mueller, he will go down with him.

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CIANN has been leading the constant attack on Trump with the help of
most of the mainstream since he won the nomination. Every day they
highlight anti Trump propaganda.

Stormy Daniels' attorney: Trump picked the wrong "fixer"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzmXpDhAaho
Published on 10 Apr 2018
Stormy Daniels' attorney Michael Avenatti says Donald Trump's personal lawyer,
Michael Cohen, is going to fold on the President "like a cheap deck of cards."

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Schumer to Trump: Don't even think about firing Mueller

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=20a7t_BqbxA
Published on 10 Apr 2018
Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) issued a stern warning to
President Trump saying he should not even think about firing special
counsel Robert Mueller.

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and many more.....

[A Voice from the Mountains]

Posted by DNA (here)
Thank you Turiya
Another caveat that I'm worried about is the Petrol-Yuan which has recently been unleashed by China.
The Birth Of The PetroYuan (In 2 Pictures)
Petro-Yuan Is The Newest Weapon For The China-Russia-Iran Anti-USD Alliance

I'm not sure if Trump was aware that the US Dollar is almost solely being propped up by the use of the military in the Middle East forcing countries to trade natural resources especially oil in American dollars, thus forcing all countries in the world to hold a reserve of US currency in which to purchase needed natural resources especially oil.

I guarantee Trump is more informed on the issue than we are. It's easy to buy into the media caricature of him, that he purposely feeds into ("I'm, like, really smart" rofl), but this guy has top NSA and military intel reporting updates on all this type of stuff to him daily. He wasn't taking his CIA briefings because he's been getting briefed by military intelligence the whole time. A lot of people forget who Mike Flynn was under Obama. Flynn was another very dangerous man to the Obama crew along with Rogers.

I don't know what Trump's response to Breton Woods and the Federal Reserve is yet, because he's been keeping those cards very close to his chest, but he has said that he doesn't believe in a "global currency" and this has been interpreted by some to mean he is ready and willing to help revoke the world reserve currency status of the dollar. It might sound like a bad move for America but remember that before WW2 our economy was a lot stronger before our dollar became pegged to international dealings. In fact our economy was substantially more robust and resistant to collapse when we had no central banks at all and states were allowed to run their banking industries as they saw fit.

Trying to collapse the US economy through the banking system while Trump is president would probably not be in their best interest, because it would give Trump control of restructuring our financial systems. Despite all the atrocities attributed to Hitler's Nazi regime in Germany, historians are forced to admit he did economic wonders for a Germany that was enormously indebted and impoverished from the consequences of the First World War. How did he manage that? By withdrawing from the international banking system and taking direct control of the German printing presses. Problem solved. If Trump lobbied for Congress to retake direct control of our currency and take it out of the hands of the Federal Reserve, we would suddenly have a lot more options opened up to us as far as how to structural our financial system internally, and that would be very bad for the international cartels' business.

What China is doing is not necessarily a direct attack on the US economy. China needs us. They can't sell their junk anywhere else, not even to their own people, because if they developed a very large middle class it would begin to revolt from the communist regime. Middle classes and communism don't mix. Leftists in South America openly bash the very idea of a middle class for this reason, though I don't understand how they've managed to brainwash so many people against the idea of social mobility. So China needs our market. But they don't need the Federal Reserve, and that's whose toes they are really stepping on by challenging the oil trade underpinning the dollar internationally. The US is also ramping up its domestic oil production and is already a net exporter again, so we're safe on that front too.

[DNA]

Posted by A Voice from the Mountains (here)
I guarantee Trump is more informed on the issue than we are. It's easy to buy into the media caricature of him, that he purposely feeds into ("I'm, like, really smart" rofl), but this guy has top NSA and military intel reporting updates on all this type of stuff to him daily. He wasn't taking his CIA briefings because he's been getting briefed by military intelligence the whole time. A lot of people forget who Mike Flynn was under Obama. Flynn was another very dangerous man to the Obama crew along with Rogers.

I'm absolutely sure Trump became aware of the Petrol Dollar implications after he became the President, but if he has become aware of this recently, then what does he do about the corresponding information that if he keeps holding up or impeding the war pattern in the middle east and especially with Syria he is risking financial ruin for the United States, as well as possibly for the rest of the world who's banking systems depend on the US dollar and as such the United States?

And if he does hold up or impede the war pattern, what is his plan when the US Dollar collapses?
This is a huge question he is going to have to answer.
We are talking about leveling the playing field between the United States and countries like Russia and China.
The only reason the US Military has the unlimited budget it has is because of the Petrol Dollar's enormous ability to allow the federal reserve to print money out of thin air.
China creating the Petrol Yuan only weeks ago has to be exasperating the situation and creating a sense of urgency in the Pentagon war room that is communicating to the President nothing less than an impending financial Armageddon.

Posted by A Voice from the Mountains (here)
It might sound like a bad move for America but remember that before WW2 our economy was a lot stronger before our dollar became pegged to international dealings. In fact our economy was substantially more robust and resistant to collapse when we had no central banks at all and states were allowed to run their banking industries as they saw fit.

I'm against all of this centralization, banking and otherwise.
I'm not sure we can compare the financial situation of the United States 80 years ago to now. We do not make anything anymore. Our major business and export is war. How much of this country is dependent on some kind of financial assistance via welfare and or social security I'm just saying those services will disappear in the scenario I'm talking about. This is not the same country and that was done by design in my opinion.
And we haven't even began to include the ramifications on the Federal Deficit Budget.
I'm not saying we shouldn't go through the hard times ahead of us.
We absolutely should.
The USA has been living high on the hog at the expense of other countries who's people have been starving to death for far too long.
That being said I have no idea the extent nor the duration the United States will suffer after the collapse of the petrol dollar.
In my opinion it will be extreme.
Worse in impact than the depression of the 30's and probably for a longer duration.

Posted by A Voice from the Mountains (here)
Trying to collapse the US economy through the banking system while Trump is president would probably not be in their best interest,

Understood, which is why they have worked so long to delay this, and they are willing to enter World War III to prevent it.
If Trump is told by the deep state, the banking oligarchs, the pentagon, the CIA and Jesus himself that the USA will suffer financial ruin if he side steps Syria what will he do? Will Trump stick to his former mind set that war is bad and will he put an end to it, or will he see some kind of logic in perpetuating it?

Posted by A Voice from the Mountains (here)
.....because it would give Trump control of restructuring our financial systems.

How do you do that? I'm not trying to be an asshole here, but I do not see how this happens short of landing the secret space program and opening up a dealership that sells cars that fly to the moon.

Posted by A Voice from the Mountains (here)
Despite all the atrocities attributed to Hitler's Nazi regime in Germany, historians are forced to admit he did economic wonders for a Germany that was enormously indebted and impoverished from the consequences of the First World War. How did he manage that? By withdrawing from the international banking system and taking direct control of the German printing presses. Problem solved. If Trump lobbied for Congress to retake direct control of our currency and take it out of the hands of the Federal Reserve, we would suddenly have a lot more options opened up to us as far as how to structural our financial system internally, and that would be very bad for the international cartels' business.

You make some valid points here. But we are still going to have to deal with a debt burdon that dwarfs what Germany had to deal with.

Posted by A Voice from the Mountains (here)
What China is doing is not necessarily a direct attack on the US economy.

Indeed, China and the rest of the world have a right to pursue trade without having to hold US Dollars.

Posted by A Voice from the Mountains (here)
China needs us. They can't sell their junk anywhere else, not even to their own people, because if they developed a very large middle class it would begin to revolt from the communist regime. Middle classes and communism don't mix.

China might aim to replace the US in terms of the Petrol-Yuan being the reserve currency held by all countries. If it worked so well for the US, then China might think why not make it work for us?

Posted by A Voice from the Mountains (here)
So China needs our market. But they don't need the Federal Reserve, and that's whose toes they are really stepping on by challenging the oil trade underpinning the dollar internationally.

The Federal Reserve is deeply in bed with the US Military. So in my opinion there are several toes being stepped on especially when you add in the military industrial complex. The US Military does not exist as such an outlandish over the top entity without the federal reserves capability to print endless amounts of money. And the federal reserve can not print endless amounts of money without the military enforcing the petrol dollar.

[A Voice from the Mountains]

Posted by DNA (here)
And if he does hold up or impede the war pattern, what is his plan when the US Dollar collapses?

There are lots of options. Think of it this way: the value of money is an abstraction. What matters at the end of the day is if you are able to eat and keep your lights on, no matter what the form of currency or what the inflation rate is. Right? But you can't eat money to survive or burn it to see at night. The paper itself is worthless; the goods and services we produce are the value.

When an economic collapse happens, why can't people just continue working normally and producing all the same goods and services as before? Think about what physically prevents them from doing this. It's because banks shrink the money supply so that no one can get paid. It's nothing but sleight of hand by a bunch of corrupt elitists withholding their magic paper. There is absolutely nothing else stopping people from going to work and getting paid as per usual.

If an economic collapse happens, this would be one of many likely scenarios:

1) State of emergency declared.
2) President assumes emergency powers over economy/production just as FDR did during WW2.
3) Congress is emphatically urged to pass a law in order to retake direct control of the nation's printing presses.
4) New money is issued and the dollar is permanently severed from both the Federal Reserve banks and the international reserve currency agreements, cutting the strings of the bankers over our money.

That would be a fairly straightforward way to do it, which is probably why it won't actually happen like that, because when the globalists are kicking and screaming at every turn it tends to complicate things. But the general idea is the same and it's been done many times before by many nations.

The only reason the US Military has the unlimited budget it has is because of the Petrol Dollar's enormous ability to allow the federal reserve to print money out of thin air.

That's only true so long as the Federal Reserve is in place and the dollar is the world's reserve currency. That means we are held hostage to what the rest of the world thinks our money is worth. If we cut the international strings, we determine what it's worth to us, and the rest of the world, if they want to continue trading with us (and we are a huge exporter and importer that many other depend upon), then they will have to negotiate with us and establish exchange rates.

If they don't want to continue trading with us any longer, fine. So coffee and chocolate prices will go up. We produce most everything we need here already, or are easily capable of doing so.

I'm not sure we can compare the financial situation of the United States 80 years ago to now. We do not make anything anymore. Our major business and export is war.

That's not really true. Total government spending only accounts for about 38% of our GDP (though that's still too high if you ask me), and you have to remember that even most of that is spent within our own borders on things like social services and infrastructure upkeep. Even military manufacturing and upkeep can be done domestically without deploying troops anywhere overseas.

But oil or no oil, the presence of American troops in foreign countries is often a stabilizing factor that host countries will be sore to see go. NATO is one example. If we suddenly pull all our troops home and commit to isolationism, do you know how many countries are going to start sizing each other up for war? Think of Turkey and Israel alone. There are a lot of regional tensions that are kept down by the presence of NATO bases and US troops. When Trump says we deserve to be paid for this service, he was 100% on the money, literally. We are provided an under-appreciated service in many ways. We also protect global shipping lanes from piracy with our navy. Imagine if global shipping lanes became disrupted, how much money and trade would be lost.

How much of this country is dependent on some kind of financial assistance via welfare and or social security I'm just saying those services will disappear in the scenario I'm talking about. This is not the same country and that was done by design in my opinion.

No doubt there would be a lot of pain in that department but these services did not even exist in this country until the 20th century. People will have to remember how to work, and be charitable with family and neighbors who are physically incapable. But the days of people lazily sitting around doing nothing and expecting to get free money for it will come to a rapid halt, as they should. You are absolutely correct that the welfare system was created by design and that's what communism is all about: making people slaves to government welfare.

The USA has been living high on the hog at the expense of other countries who's people have been starving to death for far too long.

We have become more impoverished in many ways as well, and diverted a lot of our wealth to foreign countries, so it isn't just a one-way street here, but yes, we have used the dollar's status to rack up an enormous amount of debt without having to worry about paying it back.

If Trump is told by the deep state, the banking oligarchs, the pentagon, the CIA and Jesus himself that the USA will suffer financial ruin if he side steps Syria what will he do? Will Trump stick to his former mind set that war is bad and will he put an end to it, or will he see some kind of logic in perpetuating it?

It has to happen eventually anyway. The question is how it would screw up the administration's time table if they were forced to default on the dollar earlier than they wanted to. It would be nice to have our domestic industry rebuilt first, the Alaskan pipeline pumping tons of oil, etc. etc., but oh well. Maybe having the welfare money cut off would light a fire under peoples' asses and we'd get these things done even sooner. That actually tends to happen during depressions. People CAN'T WAIT to get to work, because they're starving!

Posted by A Voice from the Mountains (here)
.....because it would give Trump control of restructuring our financial systems.

How do you do that? I'm not trying to be an asshole here, but I do not see how this happens short of landing the secret space program and opening up a dealership that sells cars that fly to the moon.

End debt banking, like I described above. Nothing about our economy has changed so fundamentally in the past 100 years that we can't go back to banking practices that existed before the Federal Reserve. You don't need to go to outer space to find natural resources. We still have tons of it here. We can use it to rebuild industries and put people to work. Same as always. The materials are all here. Remember that the ONLY thing keeping people from going to work is a shrunken money supply that prevents them from getting paid. If you retake control of the money supply from the bankers then they can't buy back all of their bonds and shrink the supply. Buying back government bonds is how they suck money out of circulation and cause depressions.

You make some valid points here. But we are still going to have to deal with a debt burdon that dwarfs what Germany had to deal with.

We owe that money to the banks. We can just write it off and tell them to go screw themselves. Someone might respond, "But China is holding massive amounts of Federal Reserve bonds." True, but (1) if the the dollar has already defaulted and power to print money is put back into the hands of Congress and new dollars are issued, that is irrelevant, (2) China is also extremely indebted to international banks in the exact same way that we are, and (3) China will still need us as a trading partner and will be willing to work out whatever differences are necessary in order to keep goods and services flowing, for THEIR OWN sake. You can apply this to any of our major trading partners. Japan and Britain and all of them. International trade benefits all nations and no one can simply cut it off in protest without suffering consequences of their own.

Another idea that has been thrown around is using the confiscated wealth of war criminals to repay the public debt, but this is assuming that the Federal Reserve system is left in place and we haven't already defaulted on our debt.

Posted by A Voice from the Mountains (here)
China needs us. They can't sell their junk anywhere else, not even to their own people, because if they developed a very large middle class it would begin to revolt from the communist regime. Middle classes and communism don't mix.

China might aim to replace the US in terms of the Petrol-Yuan being the reserve currency held by all countries. If it worked so well for the US, then China might think why not make it work for us?

Because China doesn't even have a navy that can operate in deep water.

They have no means of enforcing their financial hegemony on the rest of the world. We didn't force anyone either. It was agreed upon mutually at the end of WW2 because we were the foremost world power and in the best position to guarantee the value of our currency. China is far from being in a similar position today. They manipulate the hell out of their currency. They're a brutal communist dictatorship that uses slave labor and could easily collapse for any number of reasons. President Xi has his hands full with own country and isn't in any position to start projecting that kind of power worldwide.

The Federal Reserve is deeply in bed with the US Military. So in my opinion there are several toes being stepped on especially when you add in the military industrial complex.

As long as Trump keeps the money coming in to the big industries they won't care what form the money is in or where it's coming from. The omnibus bill has made the military industrial complex fat and happy for now, as well as all the arms deals Trump has arranged, like the hundreds of billions of dollars that Saudi Arabia has agreed to purchase from our manufacturers.

If we ditched the dollar in its current form and Congress issued a new dollar, it could be just as easily used to pay the military industries to put people to work manufacturing guns and bombs and tanks just like they are now with the Federal Reserve note. As long as the symbolic value of power that money represents is allocated in the same relative proportion to our military, they should be satisfied.

It is a pretty sad and dangerous situation that we have to consider them in this way though. It's like the Praetorian Guard of the Roman Empire. Even Trump has to keep them fat and happy or else he would be in a world of trouble. But Trump was propped up by a military faction in the first place if you remember Rogers, Flynn, and the rest.

[turiya]

Cross-posted from another thread....

Q: T R A I T O R S
(Apr 10, 2018)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=o5zHqNPLSHI

Description:

• "A witch hunt" is what President Trump is calling the Mueller probe and the FBI raid on Trump's personal attorney's own office.
• It's never been more clear that the Mueller "investigation" is an unconstitutional shadow government tactic to topple the sitting President.
• Meanwhile, the white helmets are back with yet another false flag in Syria.
• While Q points the finger at "TRAITORS" John McCain, Barrack Hussein Obama and Hillary Clinton.
• "So do not be afraid of them, for there is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, or hidden that will not be made known."
  --Matthew 10:26
  
  https://qanonposts.com/

[Cidersomerset]

Rhetoric or action nice new missiles to replace those fired last year.Trump has
given plenty of warning to Russia as well as the Syrian and Iranian/Hezbollah to
take cover and disperse their unfixed military assets like planes ,tanks and
personal. But they cannot move everything and it will depend how far Russia is
prepared to go in this new round of political 'chicken'......

Donald J. Trump
✔ @realDonaldTrump
Russia vows to shoot down any and all missiles fired at Syria. Get ready
Russia, because they will be coming, nice and new and “smart!” You
shouldn’t be partners with a Gas Killing Animal who kills his people and
enjoys it!
3:57 AM - Apr 11, 2018

Trump warns Russia on Syria missile threat
12 minutes ago...11/4/18

US President Donald Trump has tweeted that Russia should "get ready"
for missiles to be fired into Syria, in response to an alleged chemical attack
near Damascus at the weekend.Senior Russian figures had threatened to
meet any US strikes with a response.Mr Trump had promised a "forceful"
reply to the suspected attack.

President Bashar al-Assad's government, which is backed militarily by Russia,
denies being behind the chemical attack on the rebel-held town of Douma.

In his tweet, Mr Trump called Mr Assad a "gas killing animal".

read more.....http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-43727829

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Waqqaf: They might intervene in Syria to disrupt the whole game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0dxWTmcSvKE
Published on 11 Apr 2018
"Either they are trying to mount a somewhat credible threat or they're going
to intervene because there is nothing else to achieve" says Ammar Waqqaf
after Theresa May holds National Security Council meeting to plan UK Syria
response.

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Cross Talk on Syria: Path to War....Lively debate...

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=JNRabl-0yg4

Published on 11 Apr 2018
The drive towards war against Syria is unmistakable. The pretext is still
another alleged chemical attack. As usual no evidence is presented. As
usual conclusions are drawn before an independent investigation. But
this time there is a difference. Syria can defend itself and it has powerful
allies. We live in very dangerous times.
CrossTalking with Michael Maloof, Joe Lauria, and Richard Murphy.

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Russia & US block each other's drafts on Syria chemical probes in UN

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=K0pQUcVGvrs

Published on 10 Apr 2018
Russia has vetoed a US-sponsored resolution on the alleged chemical incident in
Syria in a UN Security Council vote. Two consecutive Russian-proposed drafts then
failed to get the necessary minimum votes. READ MORE: https://on.rt.com/92yv

[BMJ]

Posted by pyrangello (here)
So it really looks like Hollywood is stepping up its game , This movie trailer makes it just perfectly fine to munch on another human, like its a picnic, and you have so much energy, and on and on.

It's been mentioned here in Project Avalon the name of the flavour additive is SENOMYX.

In typical tptw style the are trying to get humanity used to the idea of cannibalism in small increments, starting with SENOMYX as a hidden flavour additive in well known brands.

Link: https://articles.mercola.com/sites/a...-harm-you.aspx

Quotes:

"Senomyx boasts that they have "discovered or in-licensed many of the key receptors that mediate taste in humans." But what they don't state so plainly is that they used human embryonic kidney cells (HEK 293) taken from an electively aborted fetus in their product testing.."

"Since they are not actually ingredients but rather 'enhancers' they are not required to be listed in a package's ingredients except as 'artificial flavors' ... [And] because very small amounts of the additives are used ... Senomyx's chemicals have not undergone the FDA's usual safety approval process for food additives."

"Many food companies have already partnered with Senomyx, so if you think this is a product you won't come across, think again. Among the food companies working with Senomyx are:

PepsiCo
Nestlé
Kraft Foods
Firmenich (a Swiss perfume and flavoring company)
Ajinomoto Group (makers of meat glue and aspartame)"

[Foxie Loxie]

What interesting posts! The only thing that makes sense to me is that it would have been the Rogue Gov't that WANTS to keep the world in turmoil so they can remain "in control" that would have perpetuated such an attack, if indeed, there WAS an attack. The tentacles of this group has been so entrenched for so many years.....

We never really know what is going on BEHIND the scenes. What I keep coming back to is this.....since Trump has nothing to "gain" by becoming President, why would he have taken on this overwhelming job of rooting out the NWO, which is, indeed, a world wide network? He must know something we don't!

[Cidersomerset]

I find it hard to believe Trump is going to escalate this with Russia after all
we have learned from 'Q'. I hope this is some sort of double bluff or he has
been compromised by the deepstate over Mueller or something ??

Where is Dr.Corsi when he is needed.....

WHY WOULD ASSAD ATTACK HIS PEEPS? McCAIN, NEOCONs! STAGED? - INFOWARS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47PILAhxT2s
Published on 11 Apr 2018
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Another fun segment with Lionel trying to decipher what the hells going on.....


'Get Ready Russia!' Trump Mulls Striking Sovereign
Syria While Zuck Squirms in Highchair Hotseat

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=5v8ZK7QWkGA

Published on 11 Apr 2018
The tweet appears to be an unofficial announcement of the "major decisions"
which Trump said Washington would soon be making regarding the alleged
chemical attack in Syria, spake RT. It comes after Russia vowed to shoot down
any US missiles aimed at Syria. “If there is an American strike, then we... will
shoot down the missiles and target the positions from where they were launched,
” Alexander Zasypkin, the Russian envoy to Beirut, said on Wednesday. “In the
past few days, we have seen an escalation towards a significant crisis."
Meanwhile Zuck squirms mightily.

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Donald J. Trump
✔ @realDonaldTrump

Our relationship with Russia is worse now than it has ever been, and that includes
the Cold War. There is no reason for this. Russia needs us to help with their
economy, something that would be very easy to do, and we need all nations to
work together. Stop the arms race?
4:37 AM - Apr 11, 2018

Syria war: Trump says missiles 'will be coming'

1 hour ago....11/3/18

read more...http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-43727829


Trump warns Russia on Syria missile threat - BBC News

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=lFzjHpjb3y8

Published on 11 Apr 2018
US President Donald Trump has tweeted that Russia should "get ready" for missiles
to be fired into Syria, in response to an alleged chemical attack at the weekend.
Senior Russian figures had threatened to meet any US strikes with a response.
Mr Trump previously promised a "forceful" response.President Bashar al-Assad's
government - which receives military backing from Russia - denies being behind
any chemical attack.In his tweet, Mr Trump called Mr Assad a "gas killing animal".

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US, France and UK weighs strikes on Syria

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O9zU0aghVEA
Published on 11 Apr 2018....Fox news
Trump, May and Macron call for action against Assad. Retired U.S. Army Gen.
Anthony Tata provides insight on 'Fox & Friends First.'

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Trump taunts Russia on Syria, Russia reacts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opKJaWd97aw
Published on 11 Apr 2018...CNN
After President Trump taunted Russia in a series of tweets about striking Syria,
Russia's foreign ministry spokeswoman has issued a response on Facebook.

[Ba-ba-Ra]

Goes into Syria situation & Mueller

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=a7d-vBZQqoc

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=9O8VPOd3Dsw

[Ba-ba-Ra]

Will Nunes actually do what he is threatening.
If so, could this end Mueller's reign?. . . . or?!?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=0RCi-cH0_ds