The Qanon posts, and associated US political analysis

[A Voice from the Mountains]

So I went to the InfoWars article on Q, noticed that the comments were overwhelmingly pro-Alex and anti-Q, so I injected a few relevant facts, such as that Jerome Corsi said early on that the White House asked him to cover Q as part of his role in Washington, and InfoWars banned me from their comments section.

The InfoWars crew have bitten off more than they can chew on this one.

[Joe from the Carolinas]

There is a real easy way to settle this Q anon situation:

Time for the real Q to do an interview.

There are a limited number of US Gov employees that are given a Q level security clearance.

The elite can follow and decode breadcrumbs just like anyone else, and I think it’s reasonable to conclude that with a limited number of Q-clearances given, and the degree of info dropped, the process of elimination will determine the real Q anyway.

[A Voice from the Mountains]

Seems to me like coming out and doing an interview would be the antithesis of the entire point of anonymity. The information is supposed to be what matters.

[KiwiElf]

"Q" is busy today; posts #1357 - 1359

https://qanon.pub/

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Anonymous ID: de56de 1393485 📁
May 13 2018 00:56:39 (EST)
>>1393428

Q is saying there won't be arrests until the justice system is cleaned out. That has to include state judges. Do you have any idea how long that will take? We are now looking at next year for the rest of Potus judges to be confirmed. That's just Federal judges. Doesn't include state,

Q !4pRcUA0lBE ID: a31055 1393554 📁
May 13 2018 01:02:24 (EST)
>>1393485
What must happen pre 11.11?
11.11 provided as strategic marker.
Post midterms.
RED wave coming?
Strength.
Justice.
Q
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Q !4pRcUA0lBE ID: 390b3e 1394124 📁
May 13 2018 01:54:08 (EST)
Trust must be earned.
Trust is not blind, nor is truth.
We fight every sigle day on behalf of you, the people who put us here.
We knew this day would come.
We will never forget.
Do not glorify us.
We are merely the vehicle.
You are what matters.
You are hope.
You are love.
You are peace.
Stay united.
Stay together.
Stay strong.
This is bigger than any one person or entity.
You are fighting for truth - collectively.
Will of the people.
Trust in yourself.
The choice will always be yours.
God bless you all.
Where we go one, we go ALL.
Q+
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Q !4pRcUA0lBE ID: 390b3e 1394586 📁
May 13 2018 02:39:18 (EST)
“A group representing German trade interests said the US decision to withdraw from the deal will hit German companies and urged the EU to protect their interests. Trade between Germany and Iran reached 3.4 billion euros ($4 billion) last year, according to BGA, another foreign trade association.”
What about Total S.A.?
Total S.A. is a French multinational integrated oil and gas company and one of the seven "Supermajor" oil companies in the world.
http://www.iran-daily.com/News/214793.html📁
Who recently visited the WH?
What was their purpose?
Coincidence?
What about the safety & security of the world?
What about preventing Iran Nuclear capabilities?
Fake News.
Will the EU resort to protecting the deal so the money flow remains in place?
Why is Kerry in the EU?
Will the US be forced to ban and declare certain EU countries off limits?
Who controls elected leaders?
Who do elected leaders report to?
Pickle.
Will Iran expose the names of corrupt officials?
Pickle.
Will the US expose the names of corrupt officials + con deal?
We await your answer [48].
On Guard.
Q
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[KiwiElf]

Posted by JoefromtheCarolinas (here)
There is a real easy way to settle this Q anon situation:

Time for the real Q to do an interview.

There are a limited number of US Gov employees that are given a Q level security clearance.

The elite can follow and decode breadcrumbs just like anyone else, and I think it’s reasonable to conclude that with a limited number of Q-clearances given, and the degree of info dropped, the process of elimination will determine the real Q anyway.

Good luck with that!

(The whole idea of the "Q" platform is anonymous but verifiable information/intel/evidence).

Q Anon = Anonymous - But ... they have already alluded to revealing themselves... at a later date... (refer to the existing "Q" posts)

https://qanon.pub/

As "Q" says, "Happy hunting"

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by KiwiElf (here)
many of which have been wiped off Google Searches, ie James Elefantis .

Thanks for the links.

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by A Voice from the Mountains (here)
Seems to me like coming out and doing an interview would be the antithesis of the entire point of anonymity. The information is supposed to be what matters.

A full written interview could easily be anonymous!

These are games, folks. And as I wrote here 3 months ago, there's a great deal of addiction being demonstrated among both players and spectators.

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

We're dealing with an addiction problem here.

I'm serious. Addiction is created by a combination of disempowerment + always wanting more, together with never reaching any kind of solution or closure.

Qanon checks all those boxes. That's why I rarely post in this thread, or pay attention to any of the speculation.

[turiya]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

Posted by A Voice from the Mountains (here)
Seems to me like coming out and doing an interview would be the antithesis of the entire point of anonymity. The information is supposed to be what matters.

A full written interview could easily be anonymous!

These are games, folks. And as I wrote here 3 months ago, there's a great deal of addiction being demonstrated among both players and spectators.

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)

We're dealing with an addiction problem here.

I'm serious. Addiction is created by a combination of disempowerment + always wanting more, together with never reaching any kind of solution or closure.

Qanon checks all those boxes. That's why I rarely post in this thread, or pay attention to any of the speculation.

Well, Bill, I have just recently dowsed this, as the question was actually brought up by the Praying Medic in his last video that I posted (Post #4318). So, I dowsed it.... And it came back in the affirmative --> that, yes indeed, Lt. General Michael Flynn is behind the scenes & running this Qanon 'operation'.

Take it for what its worth. But that is what it appears to me to be what is taking place. And, it means that a lot of individuals are going to have to eat their own words when the truth of this comes out. That is my take on this. (But I will leave the 5% error there for me to eat my own words, just in case my ability to correctly dowse this is in error.)

________Late Add________

Praying Medic:
"And look. Q warned us from the beginning that Flynn was going to play a big part in this mission. One of the very first posts - this is from November 5, 2017.

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Anonymous ID: L8quGPI9 148139234 📁
Nov 5 2017 18:15:25 (EST)
Flynn.
What is Flynn’s background?
What was his rank?
Was he involved in intel ops?
What access or special priv?
Why is this relevant?
Set up.
Who wins?
Who becomes exposed?
Who knows where the bodies are buried?
Who has access?
What is MI?
Who was part of MI during BO term?
Who was fired during BO term (MI)?
Why is this relevant?

So, Q has told us from the beginning. Look. There is no one in the world that surpasses General Flynn's knowleldge of military intelligence. And I believe General Flynn is one of the key players that is running this operation. And if a military intelligence person is running this operation, you can bet there is no end to the smoke & mirrors. And Flynn, himself, has probably put himself up as a sacrificial lamb in the media to distract... and... subterfuge... so that people don't know what's really going on.

And look, Q has always told us" 'Flynn is safe'. 'Who knows where the bodies are buried'. 'Flynn is safe'. 'We protect our patriots'.

So, you can believe in the media if you want to. I choose not to. I'm believing Q. And I'm not worried about Flynn. Flynn is a patriot. These guys are taking care of him. Flynn is probably.... uh... [sigh]... He's probably running this operation. And, he's probably communicating alot of stuff to us through this board.

Alright. So, Flynn is telling you he's safe, he's safe. Trust him. He knows what he is saying. I'm not saying Q is Flynn, but the general is definitely a part of the team. And he probably has a lot of input into the situation.

Praying Medic video:
https://youtu.be/yNMPRf1BPaw?t=30m38s

[Cidersomerset]

Pompeo says N. Korea to receive sanctions relief for "total" denuclearization

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=M-NXf--wQ98

Face The Nation ..Published on 13 May 2018
Secretary of State Mike Pompeo says North Korea could get relief from sanctions if
it abandons its nuclear program entirely. He also discussed the preparations for the
upcoming summit between President Trump and Kim Jong Un in Singapore, and
efforts to craft a different Iran nuclear deal.

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This must be to do with China helping with North Korea I would of thought....



Trump seeks to save Chinese jobs at ZTE ahead of trade talks
13/5/18

US President Donald Trump has said he wants to help save ZTE, one of China's
biggest telecoms companies.The firm has suspended operations after the commerce
department last month banned US companies from selling it components for seven
years.ZTE pleaded guilty to making illegal shipments to Iran and North Korea.

Mr Trump tweeted that he was working with President Xi to ensure ZTE would get
back into business fast, saying too many jobs in China were at risk.

read more...http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-44103081
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Trump vows to help Chinese tech giant ZTE

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GcELx8duQMg
Published on 13 May 2018...CNN ...( 3 mins)...
Weeks after the Trump administration banned US firms from selling pr0ducts to
Chinese phone maker ZTE, President Donald Trump now wants to get the company
back on its feet to save jobs in China.
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Bolton: North Korea has prospect to become 'a normal nation'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5LKObKrjbI
Published on 13 May 2018....CNN....( 6 mins )
White House national security adviser John Bolton says that North Korea's
prospects are "unbelievably strong if they'll commit to denuclearization."
"I think what the prospect for North Korea is to become a normal nation, to behave
and interact with the rest of the world the way that South Korea does," Bolton said,
and that the United States is pursuing a standard of "complete, verifiable and
irreversible denuclearization" heading into negotiations.

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Daniel is still connecting dots in his epic X series and he joins Sarah Westall to
share what he has found so far about Trump and his family and personal links to
the deepstate. I take the positive spin on this and is why he was happy to expose
elements of it in his election campaign.

This is not the 'hidden hand' as some call it and Trump has had to bring'swamp
dwellers' into his cabinet to expose others as they have the political 'savvy' . Now is
he being used and manoeuvred ? or walking the tight rope to stay on his original
message ? That's the on going debate.

The fact he also delayed the JFK release shows he has had to compromise maybe in
exchange for the CIA to back off interfering and Pompeo must of been key as it is
not coincidental that he has headed both the the official and covert US foreign
policy/agenda departments and is why he has stormed onto the foreign stage ,
when Tillerson seemed to be going nowhere imo.

Mike Pompeo..United States Secretary of State
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mike_Pompeo

Daniel has mentioned most of this in previous shows but this is a condensed
into a hour which is a good catch up , they also tangent into the JFK material
when discussing Trump delaying the release and more.....

Steganography
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steganography

UNCOVERED: Trump Family Ties to the Deep State, Dark Journalist

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p07n0VTZZGU
Published on 10 May 2018....( 1hr)...
Dark Journalist, Daniel Liszt, rejoins the program to share his X series program.
A deep dive into the covert activities surrounding presidential archives and the
X meme. During his research he discovers incredible Trump family ties to the
deep state, Tesla, and MIT. Investigative journalism that you have not heard
anywhere else. You can see more of his amazing X series on his website at
https://darkjournalist.com/

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Nigel Farage reacts to stabbing attack in Paris
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FKUZhwstGEY
Published on 13 May 2018...Fox...( 5mins)...
One person was killed and four more were wounded in a stabbing attack in Paris;
Fox News constributor Nigel Farage weighs in.

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Jerusalem embassy: Ivanka Trump and Jared Kushner arrive for Monday opening

13/5/18


Ivanka Trump greets US Ambassador to Israel David Friedman with her husband
Jared Kushner (R) at Ben Gurion International Airport

US President Donald Trump's daughter Ivanka and her husband, Jared Kushner,
have arrived in Israel ahead of the opening of the new US embassy in Jerusalem on
Monday. The couple - both senior White House advisers - will attend the ceremony.
Mr Trump himself will not be there.
read more...
Ivanka Trump
✔ @IvankaTrump
I am honored to join the delegation representing @POTUS, his Admin & the
American people at this momentous ceremony commemorating the opening of our
new US Embassy in Jerusalem, Israel. We will pray for the boundless potential of
the US-Israel alliance & we will pray for peace.4:54 PM - May 12, 2018

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-44101066

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
A full written interview could easily be anonymous!

These are games, folks. And as I wrote here 3 months ago, there's a great deal of addiction being demonstrated among both players and spectators.

So, perhaps, was conducting perhaps the greatest series of interviews of insiders, whistle blowers, and such ... an addiction, by both the interviewers and the viewers.

Interviews which gained much of their power from being real, honest, (usually) face on camera, ...

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Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world.
Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has.
Margaret Mead (1901-1978)
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More to the present point, my present take is that there are many ways to engage more people in figuring out, for themselves, what the h*ll is going on. All of these ways will have their flaws and limitations. Not as many will be reached as could be, and lies, fraud, and propaganda will be intermingled with the good stuff.

Gamifying the process, if that be part of what's going on here with Q, is one of those ways, that is engaging quite a few people that likely wouldn't have gotten this far otherwise in understanding, on their own terms, what is going on.

At least, that's how I would characterize my own interest in Q.

Others can speak for themselves.

[Operator]

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
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These are games, folks. And as I wrote here 3 months ago, there's a great deal of addiction being demonstrated among both players and spectators.
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Funny you say that ... Q keeps repeating ... THIS IS NOT A GAME

But I agree with you, the whole Q 'operation' cannot be a serious 'behind the scenes' operation executed this way.

However, one of the positive results I noticed is that whole swaths of people get unified by the phenomena and
gain hope/believe they can take control back by exposing what happens on the dark side. Reinforcement of
confidence/self-reliance is a positive effect here.

By the way .... Q clearance ?
Perhaps it's more like:


I think it's the public version of what's really happening outside our view and get the public involved.
Like how CNN was 'embedded' during the first Gulf war ... (turned out to be propaganda instead of news)

[Michelle Marie]

Inspired independent research has allowed me to explore a vast array of information and other researchers. I don't feel confined to any topic or perspective. I feel as though I have personally benefitted, and I also still like being part of activism (in terms of sharing awareness) at the local community level. My intuitive guidance leads me to many sources of information, as well as direct revelations from within. Also, more leads to follow up on.

This truth movement is not confined to Q research. However, it is all related. There's something bigger than Q, bigger than Trump, bigger than mil. Intelligence that is the driving force behind this movement. Quantum intelligence vs. Quantum computers. Which morphogenic field will prevail? Which frequency will entrain humanity? Which field will each one choose?

I choose peace-love-truth. And I will give it my All as I develop my capacities and perceptions along the way. It's the path of integrity. Knowledge of truth can be obtained by many paths. I respect each one's path.

MM

[turiya]

Cross-posted on another thread...

Trump Backs Down On China Threat: Instructs Commerce Dept To Rescue ZTE -- Zerohedge



"President Xi of China, and I, are working together to give massive Chinese phone company, ZTE, a way to get back into business, fast. Too many jobs in China lost. Commerce Department has been instructed to get it done!"

• May 13, 2018 11:32 AM

President Xi of China, and I, are working together to give massive Chinese phone company, ZTE, a way to get back into business, fast. Too many jobs in China lost. Commerce Department has been instructed to get it done!

8:01 AM - 13 May 2018

Not sure if this fits the bill...

will have to see how this unfolds...

[turiya]

Posted by turiya (here)

Posted by KiwiElf (here)
From the link in "Q" Post 1345 - 1346 (note - original link broken - it's here):

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/05/09/b...ss-europe.html

European Companies Rushed to Invest in Iran. What Now?

Yes, this appears to be what Trump is gambling with. Whether the EU countries will have it enough together to fill in the void that withdrawing from the Iranian deal will create - to make it so the Iranian cabal will still keep their mullah mouths shut about things that most of those leaders would not want to let out of the bag.

Praying Medic's most recent video... cross-posted on another thread...

Q Anon May 12 - Iran Deal's
Extortion Plot Exposed
(May 12, 2018)

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=_k0U3qphs_U

953


GATEWAY PUNDIT

PHOTOS EMERGE of Iranian Officials Who Met Secretly With John Kerry in Paris on Saturday — One Is Identified

May 13, 2018, 10:35 am
by Jim Hoft

[edina]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
A full written interview could easily be anonymous!

These are games, folks. And as I wrote here 3 months ago, there's a great deal of addiction being demonstrated among both players and spectators.

So, perhaps, was conducting perhaps the greatest series of interviews of insiders, whistle blowers, and such ... an addiction, by both the interviewers and the viewers.

Interviews which gained much of their power from being real, honest, (usually) face on camera, ...

-----------------------------------------------------
Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world.
Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has.
Margaret Mead (1901-1978)
-----------------------------------------------------

More to the present point, my present take is that there are many ways to engage more people in figuring out, for themselves, what the h*ll is going on. All of these ways will have their flaws and limitations. Not as many will be reached as could be, and lies, fraud, and propaganda will be intermingled with the good stuff.

Gamifying the process, if that be part of what's going on here with Q, is one of those ways, that is engaging quite a few people that likely wouldn't have gotten this far otherwise in understanding, on their own terms, what is going on.

At least, that's how I would characterize my own interest in Q.

Others can speak for themselves.

I see this more as a the Socratic Method, rather than gamification.

Gamification involves systematic extrinsic rewards for action taken.

That doesn't seem to be what is driving this. It's more intrinsic.

It's more about people learning how to ask questions, by the questions they are asked.
And learning how to find the answers to those questions, through the anonymous group process.

I guess if there is a reward, it's the sensation a person gets when they discover the truth.

We are wired for that, truth seeking, and meaning making.

[Hervé]

...

Gamers... let's give them a puzzle to solve...

... and what do we get?

Gamers solving the 3D geometry of a complicated molecule Cray computers couldn't solve... or:

Ready Player One 2018

[TargeT]

Posted by edina (here)
I see this more as a the Socratic Method, rather than gamification.

Gamification involves systematic extrinsic rewards for action taken.

I agree except that the "me first" reward does exist for those bleeding edge researchers (or maybe just the ones that monetize?) so there is a bit of that... and maybe in a weird reflection the "I shared it first with XXX" reward? we find validation / satisfaction in strange places at times.

Posted by Hervé (here)
...

Gamers... let's give them a puzzle to solve...

... and what do we get?

Gamers solving the 3D geometry of a complicated molecule Cray computers couldn't solve... or:

Ready Player One 2018

both, actually.

Have you seen the growth of VR youtube channels? Even watching other people play games seems to be entertaining/attractive... over indulgence is to be expected (ready player one) on the other side of the coin, have you seen what VR/AR (robot assisted) surgeries are accomplishing?

[Mark (Star Mariner)]

Posted by Paul (here)
Gamifying the process, if that be part of what's going on here with Q, is one of those ways, that is engaging quite a few people that likely wouldn't have gotten this far otherwise in understanding, on their own terms, what is going on.

Completely agree Paul, that's very much my take as well. Of course, it would be unwise to expend 100% of one's convictions on Q and the material he/she/they publish. A little caution is still necessary. Personally, I'm not on the fence per se, but a certain way over it at this point, and on Q's side – but I still keep one hand touching that fence (a safety buffer, like turiya).

But whatever the truth, there's absolutely no doubt that a lot of very interesting and plausible data has been revealed in these drops, and we must applaud Q, larp or not, for shining a light ON certain topics at least, which do, sadly, have a solid reality in our world (paedophilia, people-trafficking, institutional corruption – the deep state, not to mention the crimes of the Clintons, their dodgy deals, the blood on their hands, etc). The groundswell of interest Q generates has if nothing else paved the way for the edification of a great many, who now know about these things, and are looking into these things *right now*, when before Q they were not. That definitely counts for something in my book.

Posted by KiwiElf (here)
= James Elefantis (is actually... a Rothschild)

I wouldn't be a bit surprised if he was a Rothschild, and that name was just a pseudonym (and it's Alefantis). If so, I do wonder how he came up with it;

James Alefantis
J'aime Les Enfants
I love children

Just...vile.

[KiwiElf]

Latest "Q" post #1360, click to enlarge images

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Q !4pRcUA0lBE ID: b080f8 1397513 📁
May 13 2018 11:48:00 (EST)
7408879A-CC0C-4DA3-80A5-8….jpeg


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Full Circle.
http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blo...rhood📁
https://www.scribd.com/doc/100244266...lison📁
It’s all connected.
Welcome back Huma.
Now comes the pain.
Q
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[KiwiElf]

Game theory

Relevant to the last few posts - (as suggested by "Q", it's worthwhile to frequently "re-read the crumbs" - perhaps from the beginning). From "Q" post #60, 2 Nov, 2017 - Emphasis mine (click to enlarge images):
https://qanon.pub/
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Anonymous ID: WBXFv1gI 147679416 📁
Nov 2 2017 18:03:36 (EST)
You can count the people who have the full picture on two hands.
Of those (less than 10 people) only three are non-military.
Why is this relevant?
Game theory.
Outside of a potential operator who has been dialed-in w/ orders (specific to his/her mission) nobody else has this information.
Operators never divulge.
Alice & Wonderland.
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When we click on the "ANSWERS" Tab of the post, we get this:



Game theory.

"Just a theory. A method of predicting opponent's choices by evaluating payouts. Used in War Planning. Also relates to nuclear arms, i.e. Mutually Assured Destruction."

"Q" has also said a few times, "No outside Comms" or "NO Comms made outside of this platform." (which includes Alex Jones or anyone else...)



That's why there isn't going to be an "interview" with the "Q" team - nor are they likely to reveal themselves - any time soon. It could (obviously) blow the operation/plan.