Wanted: An American Flag

[Valerie Villars]

After 911, I wrote my name and address on a large American flag. I requested it be passed along, and that people write their thoughts about 911 on it.

I considered it a living letter and asked it be sent back to me once it was full.

I bought it to a Widespread Panic Concert in New Orleans on November 1, 2002. There
I randomly chose a person to give it to, to send it on it's way.

Maybe it was optimistic of me, but I really thought it would be sent back to me, after it was full of comments. I never saw it again.

I think of it often and wonder what became of it and would love to have it back, with comments.

Has anyone here seen it? It could be anywhere in the world.

[raregem]

That is such an inspiring idea Valerie. I have not seen it in Texas. I was at a 4 day festival in April where this flag may have had a great chance of showing up. No sign of it. I, for one, will help with thinking it to be returned to you.

[Valerie Villars]

Posted by raregem (here)
That is such an inspiring idea Valerie. I have not seen it in Texas. I was at a 4 day festival in April where this flag may have had a great chance of showing up. No sign of it. I, for one, will help with thinking it to be returned to you.

Thank you.

[Justplain]

Havent seen it up this way, Val, but i'll keep an eye open for it. 😁

[pyrangello]

I would send out a memo to the headquarters of the American legion, VFW, and am vets newspaper division and see if they will do a press release for ya in their monthly paper, also to motorcycle assoc. rolling thunder in DC and the Patriot Guard organization.

[Valerie Villars]

Wow, pyrangello. Thank you so much. I never would have thought of something like that. Amazing.

[Ernie Nemeth]

What a great idea Val!

[Valerie Villars]

Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
What a great idea Val!

Well, not that great as I have no idea if the idea caught fire. It could be moldering in someone's attic or garage.

On the other hand, if it keeps some homeless person warm in the winter time, it would bring a huge smile to my face.

[Ernie Nemeth]

I wanted to add that the best way to get it back is to let it go. I did not want to put a downer vibe in the mix, though.

[Valerie Villars]

Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
I wanted to add that the best way to get it back is to let it go. I did not want to put a downer vibe in the mix, though.

I did. I let it go. But every once in a while I wonder where it is, who it's with and what is says now. I didn't even know about the deliberateness of 911 back then. Not consciously. It would be interesting to see what it says now.

[Caliban]

Posted by Valerie Villars (here)

Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
I wanted to add that the best way to get it back is to let it go. I did not want to put a downer vibe in the mix, though.

I did. I let it go. But every once in a while I wonder where it is, who it's with and what is says now. I didn't even know about the deliberateness of 911 back then. Not consciously. It would be interesting to see what it says now.

I saw it in Bethel, on a Saturday... it rained a lot and then the sun came out. I saw it and it said something like We are stardust, we are golden... billion year old carbon... that's all I remember. Then I heard music and more music...

[Valerie Villars]

Posted by Caliban (here)

Posted by Valerie Villars (here)

Posted by Ernie Nemeth (here)
I wanted to add that the best way to get it back is to let it go. I did not want to put a downer vibe in the mix, though.

I did. I let it go. But every once in a while I wonder where it is, who it's with and what is says now. I didn't even know about the deliberateness of 911 back then. Not consciously. It would be interesting to see what it says now.

I saw it in Bethel, on a Saturday... it rained a lot and then the sun came out. I saw it and it said something like We are stardust, we are golden... billion year old carbon... that's all I remember. Then I heard music and more music...

Caliban, that made me laugh. Thanks for a bright start today.

[Elpis]

What a wonderful idea Val! I haven't seen it here in South Carolina. I'm sure it will make its way back to you!

[shadowstalker]

Sorry But i have not seen it anywhere in CT.

[Valerie Villars]

You all are so amazing.

It probably was confiscated by shadowy types, who were worried I was getting too close to the truth.

Then the dummies actually thought I was worth going after. Bumbling idiots.

[norman]

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[Vangelo]

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Military Flag Pole Ornament Etiquette
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I have no idea if the sources below are authoritative or not but it only says the Spear head is used for Army flags meaning the flag of the US Army.

ELIZABETH CARAWAY
4 OCT 2017

The ornament at the top of a flag pole or flagstaff is called the finial. Although U.S. Flag Code Title 4 Chapter 1 does not specify what ornament to use, each branch of military service has its own etiquette for the ornament that is appropriate in each situation.

Army Guidelines
Per Section 8 of Army Regulation 840-10, Army organizations are restricted to the use of four finials on their installations: the eagle for Presidential flagstaffs, the spearhead for Army flags, the acorn for markers and the ball for both outdoor wall-mounted advertising flags and the U.S. flag that the installation flies.

Air Force Guidelines
The Air Force directs that an eagle finial be used for Presidential flagstaffs and a silver spade finial be used for Air Force flagstaffs, in Air Force Instruction 34-1201. All other flagstaff ornaments are being phased out through attrition. The installation U.S. flagpole uses a ball ornament.

Navy Guidelines
The Navy has the most specific regulations for ornaments, as well as the greatest number of ornaments. Naval Telecommunications Procedures 13 states that the "topping ornament" for the U.S. flagpole at naval shore activities is to be a "brass ball of appropriate size."

Flagstaff ornaments are described in detail in Chapter 11. Guidons use a spearhead ornament. The Navy flag and battalion colors use a battle-ax flagstaff ornament. The U.S. flag, called the national ensign when displayed on a boat, receives a different topping ornament based on the rank of the individual in the boat. Likewise, personal flags and command or commission pennants use an ornament reflective of rank.

A spread eagle is used for individuals who receive a 19-gun salute or higher. A halberd is used for flag officers who receive lower than a 19-gun salute or a civilian that receives at least 11, but less than 19. A ball is used for officers who rank the same as the Captain in the Navy, as well as for certain diplomats, such as consuls. A star is used for officers of equivalent rank to the Commander in the Navy. A flat truck is used for officers below the rank of the Commander in the Navy. When personal flags or pennants are displayed indoors on staffs, the ornaments used are the same as those on boats.

The staff ornament for the U.S. flag when not on display in a boat is a battle-ax.

Marine Corps Guidelines
The Marine Corps uses Navy regulations for the display of the U.S. flag; therefore, Marine Corps installations use a brass ball on their U.S. flag poles. The Marine Corps Flag Manual also directs that flagstaffs for guidons, colors and standards use a spearhead ornament. Flagstaffs for advertising and recruiting use a ball ornament.

Coast Guard Guidelines
Under Title 14 of the United States Code, when acting in its military role, the Coast Guard follows the regulations of the Department of the Navy. Coast Guard activities on shore use a brass ball for U.S. flag poles.

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Flag Etiquette and Finials
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The Spear
The image of the spear dates to the Native Americans who used it for war and hunting. Spears carry a connotation of bravery and were also used in ceremonies to be given to the warriors of great courage. This idea is the significance communicated through a spear finial, which gives the flag a strong and bold appearance. The spear used by the United States Army is flat with two wings extending perpendicular to the central spearhead. Other styles include the more traditional Native American design that only contains the central point. The spear usually comes in silver or gold and is the only finial used by the United States Army when flying the Army’s flag. It has a long, rich history that has carried into present day, representing the heroism of our past and the fearlessness towards our future.