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    Quote Posted by JoefromtheCarolinas (here)
    I have some increasingly grave concerns and red flags going up left and right when I observe the human behavior and language associated with following this bizarre, complex, information-rich phenomenon.

    One component that disturbs me is that there is a polarization occurring. Either Q is real or fake. I don’t believe it is a question of real or fake. That sort of polarized “all or nothing” thinking is actually part of an irrational, emotion-driven reasoning.

    In my view, Q is more complicated than "Q is either real or fake".

    Q is separate from Corsi and all of the analysts.

    The thing that disturbs me is how quickly Corsi was picked up and followed, only to later serve as a divisive wedge in the Q anon community. This is a huge red flag, from a phenomenon-based approach.

    I would posit that the issue is: “how trustworthy is the analyst based on past and current behavior?” Followed up by, “to what degree does the analyst have a secondary benefit from presenting the analysis?”

    What if some of these analysts are just headline chasers, that don’t care whether they are correct? In listening to some of them on youtube, I'm hearing people reading Q posts and reading news stories based on previously established analyses. Those analyses are then being put forward as "the truth" because dots are being connected.

    Has anyone honestly considered the role of sociopathy and/or secondary gain playing a role in people’s opinions that lead them to attempt to try to prey on the public Q anon followers? Many are anonymous people on the internet, including Q. Heck, Q (whatever that is anymore) even warned about this issue. Isaac Green is asking Q followers to send him to graduate school for crying out loud.

    My overall point is this, we’ve gone way off the reservation on this Q thing since October. They told us extradition orders were ordered for HRC, and months later we see her jetsetting around India.

    It’s time for Q/him/her/it/they to do an anonymous interview and stop with the cryptic games. Trump was quite vocal pre-election about "crooked Hillary". While it should be about the message and the cause, it is obvious that hopium isn’t enough.

    This shouldn’t be an issue of faith and patriotism, if the goal is to prosecute and fairly try child molesters and mass murderers, it would have been done as soon as evidence was collected.

    Someone truly committed to the message wouldn’t allow the current division or child abuse to continue for one dang minute. They’ve been sitting on this evidence to convict the clintons and huma for how long? 6 months?!

    How many kids have they allegedly allowed to be molested in that time frame? Podesta isn’t in jail— he was just on ancient aliens— after that illegal video was released??

    I understand that many folks online that have been following Q since day 1 have a great deal of emotional investment in this whole situation, and the reflex is to respond by defending Q and not sitting with the cognitive dissonance. I've been down this road before.

    I see that the sheer volume of data being generated on this issue on the internet as serving almost like a cloud. I can't see through it, it is too complicated and fast moving.

    Objectively, what are the measurable, specific, behavioral future results?

    How do we know that the mission is finally accomplished?

    Another thing. A Korean War vet told me this saying they used to keep themselves focused: “that diversion you are trying to ignore, is the attack you were expecting.”

    I would ask, what’s been going on that Q hasn’t talked about?



    Last thought- what if the future behavioral outcome is actually the opposite of what is intended? If this is indeed a battle of the illuminati, there are going to be casualties on all sides, and some of that is going to trickle down to those helping either side.
    Your concerns are understandable.

    Are you looking more closely at your local area?

    This is happening in Colorado.

    https://www.denverpost.com/2018/05/1...p-impeachment/

    Quote Billionaire activist Tom Steyer sweeps into Denver this week with a simple and provocative message: It’s time to impeach President Donald Trump, and any Democrat not on board better wise up.
    And in the county I live in, the locals are calling to remove a County Commissioner because she is hell-bent on implementing Agenda 21 measures, through our land use code. I've been in this fight at the local level for over 20 years. Essentially, it's an implementation of policies under the guise of helping County Commissioner's make more regulated decisions. Its all sounds good in theory, but when you look at the actual code, you can see a roll out of policies that undermine people's property rights. Often, even gardening can become illegal in these LUC's.

    What's come out in the open in this latest bout, is that there are only a few companies in the business of writing these Land Use Code. Counties often contract the action to one of these few companies. Our local county is having a hard time finding anyone to do the job for them. It's all truly bizarre, when you look closer at the whole issue.

    Even the local newspaper ran a front page article about Agenda 21, calling it a conspiracy theory and the people trying to recall this County Commissioner, conspiracists as a way to stem the momentum.

    Which is great. A lot of people who had never heard of Agenda 21, did.

    And it got a lot of conversations happening. Helped the cause, rather than hurt it.

    The local Land Use Codes (LUC) are one of the ways in which that Agenda is trying to be slipped in under the radar.

    This elected gal is backed by the money of the Koch billionaires, who spout support for personal property rights, and yet are funding this woman.

    They are throwing tens of thousands, or more, dollars at this contest. Which is odd. Usually wealthy people consider contributions to be investments, and expect a Return on the Investment (ROI).

    The local ranchers and farmers and rural area residents are boot strapping their cause at a tune of a few thousand dollars and have so far succeeded in getting the sufficient number of signatures for an election recall.

    We've had a lot of roadblocks thrown in our way, along the way. Another one just happened today.

    (I want to also mention, there have been thousands of children rescued in our country and other countries over the past year, just from following local news on the issue. Much of the drama of Mockingbird Media, MSM and MSAM, is actually meant to distract people from this fact.)

    I mention this because I've discovered that taking action on issues your concerned about helps to alleviate the concern emotions. Action reduces anxiety. Maybe it's a cliche', but I found it to be consistently effective.

    Corruption is happening at every level. Action needs to happen at every level, too.

    I've also called the Q-Anon Phenom, a research movement. It's actually a bit more than that. People are taking action based on what they are learning.

    How is learning how to ferret out corruption and demanding it be cleaned out of our governmental and corporate (including NGO and Charity/Foundations) institutions a distraction?

    It's more like the people taking back their power.
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    Quote Posted by JoefromtheCarolinas (here)
    One component that disturbs me is that there is a polarization occurring. Either Q is real or fake. I don’t believe it is a question of real or fake. That sort of polarized “all or nothing” thinking is actually part of an irrational, emotion-driven reasoning.

    In my view, Q is more complicated than "Q is either real or fake".

    Q is separate from Corsi and all of the analysts.

    The thing that disturbs me is how quickly Corsi was picked up and followed, only to later serve as a divisive wedge in the Q anon community. This is a huge red flag, from a phenomenon-based approach.

    "Hey Joe, where you going with that gun in your hand..."
    No, just kidding, that's a quote from a Jimi Hendrex song.
    But I would like to point out to you, Joe, that getting "disturbed" over this is getting emotional.

    Quote Posted by JoefromtheCarolinas (here)
    I would posit that the issue is: “how trustworthy is the analyst based on past and current behavior?” Followed up by, “to what degree does the analyst have a secondary benefit from presenting the analysis?”
    I agree with you, Joe.

    As I have pointed out in Post #4452 that Jordan Sather, from the very beginning, has also attempted to co-opt this Qanon phenomenon as being part of Wilcock's GaiaTV / Corey Goode / the Blue Avians 'Alliance' - a.k.a. Sphere Being Alliance. And, it even appears that the anons on the redditt board in their Alex Jones / Jerome Corsi hit-piece failed to catch this one.

    Alex Jones' crew didn't though. That is why in the Infowars second interview with Jordan Sather, Alex focused on the Secret Space Program (SSP) with Jordan rather than going more into Qanon thing with him. From my view, Alex was attempting to 'set-up' Jordan Sather to be later discredited, which in my book he already is discredited.

    Human beings will always act accordingly to their being human - Humans will always be Human. They are capable of doing just about anything. That's the nature of the human mind at work. Awareness, alone, is enough to prevent one from getting emotional & disturbed by what is taking place. Just recognize it for what it is ==> A show. 'Enjoy the show'.

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    Quote Posted by turiya (here)
    As I have pointed out in Post #4452 that Jordan Sather, in the beginning, had also attempted to co-opt this Qanon phenomenon as being part of Wilcock's GaiaTV / Corey Goode / the Blue Avians 'Alliance'..
    uhgg, so not surprised...

    its sad that the alternative media voices that get attention are these sociopath types... and they put out enough good information that the poison is hard to catch at first, very sneaky.



    Anyone else catch this?

    Could be interesting!!!
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    Quote Posted by JoefromtheCarolinas (here)
    (I want to also mention, there have been thousands of children rescued in our country and other countries over the past year, just from following local news on the issue. Much of the drama of Mockingbird Media, MSM and MSAM, is actually meant to distract people from this fact.)

    I mention this because I've discovered that taking action on issues your concerned about helps to alleviate the concern emotions. Action reduces anxiety. Maybe it's a cliche', but I found it to be consistently effective.

    Corruption is happening at every level. Action needs to happen at every level, too.

    I've also called the Q-Anon Phenom, a research movement. It's actually a bit more than that. People are taking action based on what they are learning.

    How is learning how to ferret out corruption and demanding it be cleaned out of our governmental and corporate (including NGO and Charity/Foundations) institutions a distraction?

    It's more like the people taking back their power.
    I happened upon this video (approx. 5 mins. long) yesterday. It highlights many child/human tracking news articles published since Trump took office. If you don't want to hear Trump's "True Existential Threat" speech playing as background, just click "mute."


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    Quote Posted by edina (here)
    Quote Posted by JoefromtheCarolinas (here)
    I have some increasingly grave concerns and red flags going up left and right when I observe the human behavior and language associated with following this bizarre, complex, information-rich phenomenon.

    One component that disturbs me is that there is a polarization occurring. Either Q is real or fake. I don’t believe it is a question of real or fake. That sort of polarized “all or nothing” thinking is actually part of an irrational, emotion-driven reasoning.

    In my view, Q is more complicated than "Q is either real or fake".

    Q is separate from Corsi and all of the analysts.

    The thing that disturbs me is how quickly Corsi was picked up and followed, only to later serve as a divisive wedge in the Q anon community. This is a huge red flag, from a phenomenon-based approach.

    I would posit that the issue is: “how trustworthy is the analyst based on past and current behavior?” Followed up by, “to what degree does the analyst have a secondary benefit from presenting the analysis?”

    What if some of these analysts are just headline chasers, that don’t care whether they are correct? In listening to some of them on youtube, I'm hearing people reading Q posts and reading news stories based on previously established analyses. Those analyses are then being put forward as "the truth" because dots are being connected.

    Has anyone honestly considered the role of sociopathy and/or secondary gain playing a role in people’s opinions that lead them to attempt to try to prey on the public Q anon followers? Many are anonymous people on the internet, including Q. Heck, Q (whatever that is anymore) even warned about this issue. Isaac Green is asking Q followers to send him to graduate school for crying out loud.

    My overall point is this, we’ve gone way off the reservation on this Q thing since October. They told us extradition orders were ordered for HRC, and months later we see her jetsetting around India.

    It’s time for Q/him/her/it/they to do an anonymous interview and stop with the cryptic games. Trump was quite vocal pre-election about "crooked Hillary". While it should be about the message and the cause, it is obvious that hopium isn’t enough.

    This shouldn’t be an issue of faith and patriotism, if the goal is to prosecute and fairly try child molesters and mass murderers, it would have been done as soon as evidence was collected.

    Someone truly committed to the message wouldn’t allow the current division or child abuse to continue for one dang minute. They’ve been sitting on this evidence to convict the clintons and huma for how long? 6 months?!

    How many kids have they allegedly allowed to be molested in that time frame? Podesta isn’t in jail— he was just on ancient aliens— after that illegal video was released??

    I understand that many folks online that have been following Q since day 1 have a great deal of emotional investment in this whole situation, and the reflex is to respond by defending Q and not sitting with the cognitive dissonance. I've been down this road before.

    I see that the sheer volume of data being generated on this issue on the internet as serving almost like a cloud. I can't see through it, it is too complicated and fast moving.

    Objectively, what are the measurable, specific, behavioral future results?

    How do we know that the mission is finally accomplished?

    Another thing. A Korean War vet told me this saying they used to keep themselves focused: “that diversion you are trying to ignore, is the attack you were expecting.”

    I would ask, what’s been going on that Q hasn’t talked about?

    Last thought- what if the future behavioral outcome is actually the opposite of what is intended? If this is indeed a battle of the illuminati, there are going to be casualties on all sides, and some of that is going to trickle down to those helping either side.
    Your concerns are understandable.

    Are you looking more closely at your local area?

    This is happening in Colorado.

    https://www.denverpost.com/2018/05/1...p-impeachment/

    Quote Billionaire activist Tom Steyer sweeps into Denver this week with a simple and provocative message: It’s time to impeach President Donald Trump, and any Democrat not on board better wise up.
    And in the county I live in, the locals are calling to remove a County Commissioner because she is hell-bent on implementing Agenda 21 measures, through our land use code. I've been in this fight at the local level for over 20 years. Essentially, it's an implementation of policies under the guise of helping County Commissioner's make more regulated decisions. Its all sounds good in theory, but when you look at the actual code, you can see a roll out of policies that undermine people's property rights. Often, even gardening can become illegal in these LUC's.

    What's come out in the open in this latest bout, is that there are only a few companies in the business of writing these Land Use Code. Counties often contract the action to one of these few companies. Our local county is having a hard time finding anyone to do the job for them. It's all truly bizarre, when you look closer at the whole issue.

    Even the local newspaper ran a front page article about Agenda 21, calling it a conspiracy theory and the people trying to recall this County Commissioner, conspiracists as a way to stem the momentum.

    Which is great. A lot of people who had never heard of Agenda 21, did.

    And it got a lot of conversations happening. Helped the cause, rather than hurt it.

    The local Land Use Codes (LUC) are one of the ways in which that Agenda is trying to be slipped in under the radar.

    This elected gal is backed by the money of the Koch billionaires, who spout support for personal property rights, and yet are funding this woman.

    They are throwing tens of thousands, or more, dollars at this contest. Which is odd. Usually wealthy people consider contributions to be investments, and expect a Return on the Investment (ROI).

    The local ranchers and farmers and rural area residents are boot strapping their cause at a tune of a few thousand dollars and have so far succeeded in getting the sufficient number of signatures for an election recall.

    We've had a lot of roadblocks thrown in our way, along the way. Another one just happened today.

    (I want to also mention, there have been thousands of children rescued in our country and other countries over the past year, just from following local news on the issue. Much of the drama of Mockingbird Media, MSM and MSAM, is actually meant to distract people from this fact.)

    I mention this because I've discovered that taking action on issues your concerned about helps to alleviate the concern emotions. Action reduces anxiety. Maybe it's a cliche', but I found it to be consistently effective.

    Corruption is happening at every level. Action needs to happen at every level, too.

    I've also called the Q-Anon Phenom, a research movement. It's actually a bit more than that. People are taking action based on what they are learning.

    How is learning how to ferret out corruption and demanding it be cleaned out of our governmental and corporate (including NGO and Charity/Foundations) institutions a distraction?

    It's more like the people taking back their power.
    Great sentiments, Edina. I'm observing what is happening in my local area, too.

    They are still pushing climate change and gearing toward enacting carbon tax legislation. I just learned today that there is an event for a pre-election pushing for a "blue" voting influence with some local musicians. I'm going to ask around to see who is funding this and pushing for it.

    There is an intelligence war; a competition for using our minds and our energy. So many people fall in these traps, it's hard to fathom. They buy into devisiveness and attack one another (((old competition model))) instead of rallying around the truth (((and cooperating))) toward mutual goals of peace and prosperity for all.

    We each have ways we can contribute locally. I have produced empowering consciousness transformation events...I just did one yesterday. I read poetry that encourages and uplifts in community settings. There are community awareness events that I attend and support. I've met more people recently that share values around health at the farmer's market.

    It seems to me, there are two factions brewing at the local levels: 1) People who are building economies around food, community sharing (of truth and food!), and creating sustainable solutions, and 2) those that fall into the traps caused with agendas and funding of the (((losing their power))) once ruling elite. 1) based on (((love))) principle, and 2) based on (((financial)) power.

    Observation and active involvement at the local level is critical to positive change.

    We each have something to contribute.

    Perhaps instead of focusing on what's wrong with others we could each find a way to help. We could raise awareness by sharing truth, or just help someone near us to lift their load or lift their spirits.

    I'm going to help the single parent I just met...I offered to babysit her 2 children.

    What can I do to use my awareness garnered from the research and knowledge I've gained from the Internet, this forum, and this Q thread? I'm talking to people, sending info through emails (I don't do social media), and listening to others who are also gathering information.

    I know the light of awareness is expanding. I'm seeing it in my local community. And I am an active participant.

    ***The planned pandemics are still on the agenda, (local laws are in place to support those), but they keep getting stalled due to the increase in awareness.*** Watch for the traps and stay out of them.

    Solutions to all of the potential disasters exist. They are being presented.
    Be aware, healthy, and cooperative!

    MM
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    Latest "Q" posts, #1398-1404, click to enlarge images

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    >>1444632
    The hard part for us is having to wait for the 'public' to 'know' what we've known for a very long time.
    There is no bigger threat to 'them' than the public being awake and thinking for themselves.
    Why are we here?
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    The hard part for us is having to wait for the 'public' to 'know' what we've known for a very long time.
    There is no bigger threat to 'them' than the public being awake and thinking for themselves.
    Why are we here?
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    What is the common theme when bad news is about to break (against them)?
    Stay vigilant.
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    What is the common theme when bad news is about to break (against them)?
    Stay vigilant.
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    http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...robe/📁
    God Bless the United States of America.
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    What had to happen first?
    Think logically.
    Think DOJ & FBI.
    Think cleaning.
    #64
    Puzzle coming together?
    We have reached our cruising altitude of 40,000 ft. long ago.
    As we prepare to land, please fasten your seatbelt and make sure your seat back and folding trays are in their full upright position.
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    They do not need a false flag this weekend, any news can be buried under frilly dresses,and Royal wedding bells.

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    Quote Posted by samildamach (here)
    They do not need a false flag this weekend, any news can be buried under frilly dresses,and Royal wedding bells.
    That might become the "false flag"

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    BUCKLE UP: DOJ Inspector FINISHES REPORT on Hillary Email Scandal
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    May 17, 2018 12:45 PM

    https://www.hannity.com/media-room/b...l-scandal/amp/

    The Inspector General at the Department of Justice is putting the finishing touches on his official report detailing the agency’s investigation into Hillary Clinton’s email server; announcing officials will begin receiving the material as early as this week.

    According to the Washington Post, Inspector General Michael Horowitz has reportedly wrapped up his probe into the FBI’s botched investigation into whether the former Secretary of State broke the law when mishandling classified information.

    “The report is expected to blast former FBI director James B. Comey for various steps he took in the investigation, particularly his announcing in July — without telling his Justice Department bosses what he was about to say — that the FBI was recommending that Clinton not be charged, and for revealing to Congress just weeks before the presidential election that the bureau had resumed its work, people familiar with the matter said,” writes the Washington Post.

    Horowitz began his investigation into Comey’s Hillary probe in January 2017, following new questions over the former bureau boss’s relationship with senior Obama officials and illegal leaking from inside the agency.

    Read the full report here.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.8922ac873a29

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    Inspector General Will Declare FBI, DOJ Broke Law in Clinton Email Probe

    http://www.breitbart.com/big-governm...n-email-probe/

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    A new report suggests an imminent Inspector General (IG) report may rule that FBI and Justice Department officials broke the law in their handling of the Hillary Clinton email investigation.

    Investigative reporter Paul Sperry said Thursday that Justice Department Inspector General Michael Horowitz has “found ‘reasonable grounds’ for believing there has been a violation of federal criminal law in the FBI/DOJ’s handling of the Clinton investigation/s,” adding that the top watchdog official has “referred his findings of potential criminal misconduct to Huber for possible criminal prosecution.”

    In response to growing calls for a second special counsel to probe the Clinton email probe, along with FISA abuses that took place during the 2016 election, Attorney General Jeff Sessions announced in March the appointment of Utah’s top federal prosecutor, John Huber, to probe potential wrongdoing.

    It was revealed this week that the Inspector General’s highly-anticipated report was submitted for review.

    “Those invited to review the report were told they would have to sign nondisclosure agreements in order to read it, people familiar with the matter said. They are expected to have a few days to craft a response to any criticism in the report, which will then be incorporated in the final version to be released in coming weeks,” the Wall Street Journal reported.

    Multiple reports suggest the report will be made public by the end of May.

    Full article at link
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    Finally!! We've been patiently waiting for this. Huber is going to have a field day with this IG report. The big reveal has started.

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    FEDS DROP BOMBSHELL: Comey & Lynch Colluded with Clinton Campaign to Entrap, Wiretap Trump; Illegal Scheme Involved Entire U.S. Intel Community
    Posted on April 17, 2018 by Investigative Bureau (emphasis mine)

    https://truepundit.com/feds-drop-bom...tel-community/

    Loretta Lynch’s Justice Department and James Comey’s FBI worked together with the Hillary Clinton campaign to entrap Donald Trump and associates — including his eldest son — prior to the 2016 presidential election, according to records and testimony of federal law enforcement insiders.

    One high ranking official in the Justice Department called it a sweeping “highly illegal” scheme to ensure Hillary Clinton’s election to the White House.

    “This was clearly a scheme using Justice (Department) resources and State (Department) resources to get the Russian lawyer into the United States,” one Justice Department insider said. “Who has the power to do this? Only the people at the very top.”

    Lynch. Comey. Andrew McCabe. Preet Bhahara. Sally Yates.

    And according to high ranking FBI sources, the Bureau played a definitive role in plotting this sweeping privacy breach. But the FBI had much help from the NSA, CIA, the Office of of the Director of National Intelligence, Treasury financial crimes division under DHS, and the Justice Department, federal law enforcement sources confirmed.

    John Brennan. James Clapper. Jeh Johnson.

    That places the Barack Obama administration directly into this illegal soup, led by Lynch, Yates, Comey and the FBI’s McCabe and associates.


    In fact, Hillary Clinton along with the DNC bankrolled Fusion GPS to set up Donald Trump Jr. in the large scheme to undercut his father’s path to the presidency, sources said.

    The Russian lawyer who set up Donald Trump Jr. — Natalia Veselnitskaya — was paid by Fusion GPS. Fusion GPS was paid by Hillary Clinton and the DNC.

    Veselnitskaya and Fusion GPS worked together on another caper in 2014, two years before the Trump Jr. operation. In Russia.

    Veselnitskaya was barred from entering the United States. Federal law enforcement sources said Lynch and Comey — using Preet Bhahara’s clout in the U.S. Attorney’s Office in the southern district of New York — ensured she was granted a special visa for entry, just to set up the Trump inner circle.

    A Justice Department official said Clinton likely never expected her campaign’s role and finances to be uncovered and broke a host of federal laws while trying to get elected in 2016, including bringing Veselnitskaya — who was previously barred from entering the United Stated — into Manhattan for the Trump sit down.

    Using research firm Fusion GPS as a buffer, Clinton and associates are now linked to financing a scheme to set up the controversial Trump Jr. meeting at Trump Tower before the 2016 presidential election.

    Fusion GPS is already on the legal hot seat for commissioning the Dodgy Dossier on Trump, hiring former British spy Christopher Steele to compile the bogus manifesto with the financial backing of the DNC and Hillary Clinton campaign, as well as the FBI.

    But these new revelations — that Fusion GPS played a key role in setting up President Trump’s elder son to make it look like he was colluding with the Russians to beat Hillary — pushes this scandal into a new and more troubling orbit.

    Soon after the meeting, Clinton and her campaign flunkies began slamming Trump for his links to Russia and Vladimir Putin, a chorus that continues to this day.

    But it appears now this loud chorus was a manufactured arrangement of lies from a paid choir.

    Especially since this scheme was backed by Hillary-Clinton dollars which implicates Clinton and her campaign in helping orchestrate the Russian sit down to entrap members of the Trump family.

    Perhaps even more alarming, it is now alleged Barack Obama’s Justice Department and FBI helped sneak the Russian lawyer into the United States for the Trump Tower meeting, the insider said. She was previously banned from entering the country (more on that below).

    If you are paying attention, this scandal is shaping up into a serious and disturbing criminal plot.

    The Democrats and Clinton herself lambasted Trump Jr. for meeting with Russian lawyer The Democrats alleged Trump Jr. was working a backroom and illegal deal at the behest of his father. The meeting has been part of U.S. Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s criminal investigation and Trump Jr. has testified at the Senate level to explain the meeting. Trump Jr., corroborated by evidence since the investigation began, met with the Russian delegation for anything but illegal reasons.

    No collusion, as the Democrats have cried out for, has been proven on Trump Jr.’s part or that of his father. Nor does it appear it ever will be.

    Fusion GPS has been fighting Congress in federal court to keep its banking records private, battling a federal subpoena to turn over the details of money coming in and flowing out of the Virginia-based research firm.

    Following the Trump Tower sit down with Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya, investigators began digitally wiretapping Paul Manafort, Trump Jr., and Jared Kushner who were also at the meeting.

    Federal agents previously disclosed to True Pundit that after the concocted Russian meeting, the British spy agency GCHQ could officially justify wiretapping Trump associates as an intelligence front for NSA because Russian lawyer Veselnitskaya was considered an international security risk and prior to the June sit down was not even allowed entry into the United States or the UK, federal sources said.

    Veselnitskaya, the Russian lawyer who spearheaded the Trump Tower meeting with the Trump campaign trio, was previously barred from entering the United Sates due to her alleged connections to the Russian FSB (the modern replacement of the cold-war-era KGB).

    Yet mere days before the June meeting, Veselnitskaya was granted a rare visa to enter the United States from Preet Bharara, the then U.S. Attorney for the southern district of New York. Bharara could not be reached for comment and did not respond the a Twitter inquiry on the Russian’s visa by True Pundit.

    Now, according to new Intel gems from a White House insider, Fusion GPS may have played a role in paying Veselnitskaya’s way into the United States as well as a possible stipend, travel expenses and accommodations.

    Veselnitskaya returned to Russia after the meeting, sources confirmed.

    Federal law enforcement sources said Bharara was simply following the orders of Attorney General Loretta Lynch, who lobbied the State Department to issue the disavowed Russian a B1/B2 non-immigrant visa. This permitted Veselnitskaya entry into the United States for the sole purpose of entrapping Trump associates to use as fuel to commission wiretaps, federal sources said.

    Veselnitskaya may have been paid as well by the U.S. government, FBI sources said. It was reported previously by True Pundit that Steele, who compiled the Trump dossier was paid at least $100,000 from FBI funds as well. But that came later, after the wiretapping was well underway.

    The illegal eavesdropping started long before Steele’s dossier. Federal sources said the wiretaps on Trump insiders began in late 2015, almost a year before the 2016 election. The targets then were Flynn and Page, sources confirmed. When no smoking gun was recovered from those initial taps, U.S. intelligence agencies moved to broaden the scope through their newly-formed alliance.

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    April Showers Bring May Flowers, Is It Happening? - X22 Report Episode 1570b



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    Published on May 17, 2018

    The IG report is going to be released in May and it looks like it is going to bring May flowers. Bigger than Watergate.

    The N Korea story that the corporate media is pushing is fake and false.

    The statement made by NK was edited a certain way to make it look like NK wanted to cancel.

    EU will no longer use the dollar for oil trade with Iran. Propaganda video debunked, the video was from 2014.

    Syrians find a huge number of weapons in a cave.

    OPCW has released its findings from the Feb gas attack, no conclusion because they never visited the site; they used social media and reports from others to come to their conclusion.
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    Operation Crossfire Hurricane ... any coincidences with the name of that operation, which the New York Times did a big juicy piece on, and Trump's "Storm?"

    Former Navy officer Jack Posobiec, who seems to have a relationship with Gen. Flynn's son, Michael Jr., tweeted the following this evening.

    What John Brennan did in Crossfire Hurricane dwarfs what his agency did in Watergate

    The tweet is here.

    And Sen. Rand Paul is getting curiouser and curiouser. First, he opposes Gina Haspel; then it's reported he was pressured by the GOP into voting for her confirmation. Now, or on May 15, he sends a letter to Haspel requesting information on the CIA's involvement with the surveillance of Trump and others.

    Sen. Rand Paul’s intriguing letter to the CIA’s Gina Haspel
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    Quote Posted by LadyM (here)
    Operation Crossfire Hurricane ... any coincidences with the name of that operation, which the New York Times did a big juicy piece on, and Trump's "Storm?"
    Know your symbolism
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    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
    FEDS DROP BOMBSHELL: Comey & Lynch Colluded with Clinton Campaign to Entrap, Wiretap Trump; Illegal Scheme Involved Entire U.S. Intel Community
    Posted on April 17, 2018 by Investigative Bureau (emphasis mine)

    https://truepundit.com/feds-drop-bom...tel-community/

    Loretta Lynch’s Justice Department and James Comey’s FBI worked together with the Hillary Clinton campaign to entrap Donald Trump and associates — including his eldest son — prior to the 2016 presidential election, according to records and testimony of federal law enforcement insiders.

    One high ranking official in the Justice Department called it a sweeping “highly illegal” scheme to ensure Hillary Clinton’s election to the White House.

    “This was clearly a scheme using Justice (Department) resources and State (Department) resources to get the Russian lawyer into the United States,” one Justice Department insider said. “Who has the power to do this? Only the people at the very top.”

    Lynch. Comey. Andrew McCabe. Preet Bhahara. Sally Yates.

    And according to high ranking FBI sources, the Bureau played a definitive role in plotting this sweeping privacy breach. But the FBI had much help from the NSA, CIA, the Office of of the Director of National Intelligence, Treasury financial crimes division under DHS, and the Justice Department, federal law enforcement sources confirmed.

    John Brennan. James Clapper. Jeh Johnson.

    That places the Barack Obama administration directly into this illegal soup, led by Lynch, Yates, Comey and the FBI’s McCabe and associates.


    In fact, Hillary Clinton along with the DNC bankrolled Fusion GPS to set up Donald Trump Jr. in the large scheme to undercut his father’s path to the presidency, sources said.

    The Russian lawyer who set up Donald Trump Jr. — Natalia Veselnitskaya — was paid by Fusion GPS. Fusion GPS was paid by Hillary Clinton and the DNC.

    Veselnitskaya and Fusion GPS worked together on another caper in 2014, two years before the Trump Jr. operation. In Russia.

    Veselnitskaya was barred from entering the United States. Federal law enforcement sources said Lynch and Comey — using Preet Bhahara’s clout in the U.S. Attorney’s Office in the southern district of New York — ensured she was granted a special visa for entry, just to set up the Trump inner circle.

    A Justice Department official said Clinton likely never expected her campaign’s role and finances to be uncovered and broke a host of federal laws while trying to get elected in 2016, including bringing Veselnitskaya — who was previously barred from entering the United Stated — into Manhattan for the Trump sit down.

    Using research firm Fusion GPS as a buffer, Clinton and associates are now linked to financing a scheme to set up the controversial Trump Jr. meeting at Trump Tower before the 2016 presidential election.

    Fusion GPS is already on the legal hot seat for commissioning the Dodgy Dossier on Trump, hiring former British spy Christopher Steele to compile the bogus manifesto with the financial backing of the DNC and Hillary Clinton campaign, as well as the FBI.

    But these new revelations — that Fusion GPS played a key role in setting up President Trump’s elder son to make it look like he was colluding with the Russians to beat Hillary — pushes this scandal into a new and more troubling orbit.

    Soon after the meeting, Clinton and her campaign flunkies began slamming Trump for his links to Russia and Vladimir Putin, a chorus that continues to this day.

    But it appears now this loud chorus was a manufactured arrangement of lies from a paid choir.

    Especially since this scheme was backed by Hillary-Clinton dollars which implicates Clinton and her campaign in helping orchestrate the Russian sit down to entrap members of the Trump family.

    Perhaps even more alarming, it is now alleged Barack Obama’s Justice Department and FBI helped sneak the Russian lawyer into the United States for the Trump Tower meeting, the insider said. She was previously banned from entering the country (more on that below).

    If you are paying attention, this scandal is shaping up into a serious and disturbing criminal plot.

    The Democrats and Clinton herself lambasted Trump Jr. for meeting with Russian lawyer The Democrats alleged Trump Jr. was working a backroom and illegal deal at the behest of his father. The meeting has been part of U.S. Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s criminal investigation and Trump Jr. has testified at the Senate level to explain the meeting. Trump Jr., corroborated by evidence since the investigation began, met with the Russian delegation for anything but illegal reasons.

    No collusion, as the Democrats have cried out for, has been proven on Trump Jr.’s part or that of his father. Nor does it appear it ever will be.

    Fusion GPS has been fighting Congress in federal court to keep its banking records private, battling a federal subpoena to turn over the details of money coming in and flowing out of the Virginia-based research firm.

    Following the Trump Tower sit down with Russian lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya, investigators began digitally wiretapping Paul Manafort, Trump Jr., and Jared Kushner who were also at the meeting.

    Federal agents previously disclosed to True Pundit that after the concocted Russian meeting, the British spy agency GCHQ could officially justify wiretapping Trump associates as an intelligence front for NSA because Russian lawyer Veselnitskaya was considered an international security risk and prior to the June sit down was not even allowed entry into the United States or the UK, federal sources said.

    Veselnitskaya, the Russian lawyer who spearheaded the Trump Tower meeting with the Trump campaign trio, was previously barred from entering the United Sates due to her alleged connections to the Russian FSB (the modern replacement of the cold-war-era KGB).

    Yet mere days before the June meeting, Veselnitskaya was granted a rare visa to enter the United States from Preet Bharara, the then U.S. Attorney for the southern district of New York. Bharara could not be reached for comment and did not respond the a Twitter inquiry on the Russian’s visa by True Pundit.

    Now, according to new Intel gems from a White House insider, Fusion GPS may have played a role in paying Veselnitskaya’s way into the United States as well as a possible stipend, travel expenses and accommodations.

    Veselnitskaya returned to Russia after the meeting, sources confirmed.

    Federal law enforcement sources said Bharara was simply following the orders of Attorney General Loretta Lynch, who lobbied the State Department to issue the disavowed Russian a B1/B2 non-immigrant visa. This permitted Veselnitskaya entry into the United States for the sole purpose of entrapping Trump associates to use as fuel to commission wiretaps, federal sources said.

    Veselnitskaya may have been paid as well by the U.S. government, FBI sources said. It was reported previously by True Pundit that Steele, who compiled the Trump dossier was paid at least $100,000 from FBI funds as well. But that came later, after the wiretapping was well underway.

    The illegal eavesdropping started long before Steele’s dossier. Federal sources said the wiretaps on Trump insiders began in late 2015, almost a year before the 2016 election. The targets then were Flynn and Page, sources confirmed. When no smoking gun was recovered from those initial taps, U.S. intelligence agencies moved to broaden the scope through their newly-formed alliance.
    If this is proved out is this the Red Sparrow??

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    Is the April 17, 2018 date on this article a typo? If not, this "drop" occurred a month ago. Should it be dated May 17, 2018?

    Edit: I replaced "not" for "so". I should have written "If not...." originally, rather than "If so...."
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