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    Quote Posted by LadyM (here)
    On Feb. 12, 2018, a Q drop made reference to the Matrix movie, asking us to find out where the idea for the movie came from. Maybe it's common knowledge in the alt community, but I see a connection with Scientology. Are Scientologists behind the movie?

    In the Wikipedia entry on Scientology's incidents, there is a description of the "Bodies in pawn" incident.

    "Bodies in pawn result" from a "very gruesome experience" in which:

    a fellow is grabbed, hypnotized, shoved into an electronic field, and then told he is somewhere else. And so he departs—most of him—and goes to the new location while still being under control of the implanters. He picks up a MEST [physical] body in the new location and starts living a life there, while still having a living body somewhere else. The implanters can keep his original body alive indefinitely, and control the thetan through it. If the thetan tries to flee, the hypnotizers simply cause pain to the original body, still alive in a vat of fluid, and he is immediately recalled. That's a BODY IN PAWN. It's a second body you may have, living somewhere else, right in present time. But the second body is not under YOUR direct control. (Source magazine #105, pg.39, 1997; see also Hubbard, Research and Discovery Series vol. 10)

    They can apparently cause major problems for people undergoing medical operations, as "pain, an anaesthetic or a serious accident cause him to change to the other area with a shocking impact on the other body. The other body quite commonly dies or is deranged by the sudden impact". This gives the patient a repressed feeling of having died and leaves him "very, very badly disturbed"
    I remember reading a Wired article about them and their influences back when the movies were coming out. Found an archived version of the article:

    https://web.archive.org/web/20120724...11/matrix.html

    https://web.archive.org/web/20111206...trix.html?pg=2

    One of the first names written as their influence was Stanley Kubrick.

    Quote Stanley Kubrick, Herman Hesse, Homer, Fyodor Dostoyevsky, John Huston, John Woo, Billy Wilder, Ridley Scott, George Lucas, Fritz Lang, and Cornel West
    They are very eclectic. They borrowed a lot from comic books, Japanese manga and anime, sci-fi, philosophy. The mention of Fyodor Dostoyevsky means more to me now than it did when I first read the article.

    In another place there is a mention of a book, Neuromancer.
    Did you notice the "Issue 11.11" in the Wired article? How do we REALLY know that they wrote the script? I once thought Milli Vanilli and The Monkees did the singing in their songs. This world is so inverted, we have to question those things.

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    Quote Posted by Bluegreen (here)
    … the hanging itself:

    Whatever one may think, the one thing that is obvious to all who look at it is that its all about Symbolism, and nothing else.

    Speaking of odd, let's get to the odd. What is St Theresa looking at? She's looking at what appears to be a naked dude in a very confined space. Is that blood on his knee? What is he laying on? A bed of nails? Fire? I understand the red and orange things are used as an artistic motif and its repetition is pleasing to the eye, but they are pointy and he's laying on them. He doesn't look very comfortable. Did he do something wrong? Are the angels praying for his soul? Am I the only one who sees the angels' wings as blades rather than wings?

    I can't help but get the idea I am looking at a human torture or sacrifice of some kind, which brings us to, unfortunately, Satanic Ritual Abuse and MK-Ultra. Many survivors report being raised in a religious household and having that belief system incorporated into their programming. Many say they come from well-to-do families; a surprisingly large number claim to have 'illuminati bloodlines'. Many report being 'placed' in jobs with public influence, such as politics and, ahem, journalism. Now is not the time to detail the rape, torture, programming, and sometimes murder of young children by adults within the world of SRA and MK-Ultra, suffice to say it is the case. And, as any satanist can tell you, boys work best.
    Hey Bluegreen, you raise some interesting questions... I'm not able to say anything about much of what you query. But, I will give a shot at what I've left of your statements above.

    Regarding
    Quote ...a naked dude in a very confined space. Is that blood on his knee?

    ...Are the angels praying for his soul? Am I the only one who sees the angels' wings as blades rather than wings?
    So, for the 'confined space'... some of the so-called "saints", who have passed out-of-body, have been said to leave behind bodies that appear to be "incorruptible". What that means is that their bodies remain seemingly preserved without the use of chemicals that are used typically for preservation purposes.
    INCORRUPT BODIES OF SAINTS
    Preserved bodies found in countries around the world can be divided into three classifications:
    1. Accidentally preserved
    2. Deliberately preserved
    3. Incorruptibles - These type of preserved bodies started being discovered back in the early centuries after Christ, though surprisingly, they do not fall into either the accidental or deliberate preservation categories above. The causes for "incorruptibles" remaining free of decomposition have baffled scientists to this day. These bodies are discovered in many different environments, including environments that would typically cause an accidental or deliberately preserved corpse to decompose rapidly. They remain free of decay regardless of manner of burial, delay in burial, temperature, moisture, rough handling, frequent transference, having been covered in quicklime (a decaying agent), or proximity to other decaying corpses. They cannot be explained by science or reason. Some common characteristics of an incorruptible body:

    Their preservations since that time have challenged the opinions of skeptics and contradicted and defied the laws of nature, all to the dismay of many examining physicians and the admiration of succeeding generations.

    The more carefully we consider the preservation of the incorruptibles, the more baffling does the subject become, for their conservation seems to be neither dependent on the manner of burial nor on the temperature or place of interment. Nor were they adversely affected by extended delays between the time of death and their burials, by moisture in the tombs, by rough handling, by frequent transferences, by covering with quicklime, or by their proximity to decaying corpses.

    The greater majority were never embalmed or treated in any manner, yet most were found lifelike, flexible, and sweetly scented many years after death, in sharp contrast to the specimens of the other two classifications above, who, without exception, were found stiff, discolored, and skeletal. The mystery of their preservations is further compounded by the observance of blood and clear oils—which have proceeded from a number of these holy relics—a phenomenon which again, needless to say, was never recorded with regard to the deliberately or accidentally preserved.

    Through history, the bodies of a considerable number of deceased Catholic Saints and other blessed persons, have not undergone the normal processes of disintegration. Without any kind mummification or embalming methods, their corpses have thus remained incorrupt, a few even after 1500 years. The accounts of incorruptible bodies are a part of Christian history from the first century right through to the 21st.
    [...]
    Many of those, whose bodies have been found incorrupt, had died either by violence or diseases, conditions which normally would encourage the disintegration processes rather than preserve the bodies. Some had been buried in
    The accounts of saints’ bodies not decaying despite being buried for years continue to the present day. The two most amazing modern accounts are of St. Bernadette and St. Charbel Makhlouf. St. Bernadette was the shepherd girl who saw the Blessed Virgin Mary at Lourdes. She died in a convent at Nevers in 1879 and was buried in the chapel crypt. In 1909, a commission investigating her saintliness exhumed her body with the bishop and two doctors as official witnesses. They were joined by two stonemasons and two carpenters.

    All of them swore beforehand to tell the truth of their findings. They found that the saint’s body was incorrupt. A nun who had witnessed the burial 30 years before noted that the only change was that the dead nun’s habit was damp.

    Bernadette was re-buried and exhumed again in 1919. As before, both civil and religious witnesses were gathered under oath. The doctors who examined the body wrote: “When the coffin was opened the body appeared to be absolutely intact and odourless… there was no smell of putrefaction and none of those present experienced any discomfort.” On a third exhumation in 1923, the body was found still to be in the same condition. At that point, the body was opened and the internal organs were found to be supple. After 46 years, the doctor reported, “the liver was soft and almost normal in consistency.”

    St. Charbel Makhlouf, who died in 1898, was a Maronite monk from Lebanon. In his life, he seemed unremarkable except for his quiet and intense devotion. After his death, for 45 nights, strange lights appeared over his grave. Because 45 days is the traditional length of time for a body’s decomposition, the monastic authorities called for his exhumation. His body was found perfectly fresh, despite the fact that recent rains had reduced the cemetery to a quagmire and the body was found floating in a muddy pool. Charbel’s body was re-clothed and transferred to a wooden coffin, but a strange blood- like “oil” kept exuding from his body… so much so that the clothes had to be changed twice a week. In 1927 – 29 years after his death – his still incorrupt body was examined and found to be totally flexible. It was then re-buried in a niche in the ancient abbey church. Pilgrims to the shrine in 1950 noticed liquid seeping from the tomb and the coffin was opened again.

    More at this Link

    Examples of 'confined space' for Incorruptible 'Saints':
    Therese of Lisieux - notice the saint above looking down.


    St. Benedict (incorrupitible)


    Incorruptibles often times appear to ooze a blood-like oily substance.


    Note the angels on both ends.


    Notice the Sawtooth decorative border
    Jacinta Marto
    Jacinta Marto was one of the three original visionaries at Fatima, Portugal in 1917.
    She was born in 1910 and died in 1920. In both 1935 and 1951 her body was
    exhumed and in each instance, her body was found to be incorrupt.
    The Basilica of Our Lady of Fatima was built on the site where the three children first
    saw "a lady brighter than the sun" and Jacinta's tomb has remained there since 1951.
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    Did you notice the "Issue 11.11" in the Wired article? How do we REALLY know that they wrote the script? I once thought Milli Vanilli and The Monkees did the singing in their songs. This world is so inverted, we have to question those things.
    Yes, I did notice that the issue was 11:11. I took that as a positive sign.

    I downloaded the Matrix script a while back to study. (To learn the structure of a screenplay.)
    (I've also downloaded the Lords of the Rings, Chronicles of Narnia, and A Few Good Men. I'll download more in time to continue to learn. )

    I believe that the Wachowski brothers, (now known as siblings) did write the scripts.

    How do we REALLY know if anyone wrote anything?

    How do we know if James Cameron wrote, Terminator, and Avatar?
    Or that J. Michael Straczynski wrote Babylon 5? Or even that Stanley Kubrick wrote 2001: A Space Odyssey, Childhood's End and Eyes Wide Shut.

    But, it's reasonable that they each wrote what they were credited for writing.

    That said, there are theories out there of how people are selected to share certain things, and often they are "influenced" in their creative processes.

    The man who wrote Neuromancer, William Gibson, introduced the language of the cyberpunk genre.

    Every generation seems to pick up themes as if from the "aether", or the lake as some would call it.

    We're all influenced by this flow of intelligent energy all around us. The creative forces, may be another term we could use to describe it.

    Back to Q's post where he brings up the point of how in the Matrix humans are used as batteries to power the AI entities.

    A book I recently read, The Vital Question, explains how we generate energy at the cellular level, the essential role of mitochondria in this process.

    I've sometime said that life is an overunity generator, meaning the energy output is greater than the input.

    I'm still trying to figure out how to speak to what I read in the book. Essentially, it's a theses for the physics of biology, how biology evolved to generate energy. It's fascinating. It's applying first principles to biology.

    I remember thinking of the concept that gets floated in many places, of humans being batteries for others, as I was reading it.

    It comes to mind when reading Q's post, too. This would be a deeper layer than the immediate political concerns.
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    Quote Posted by LadyM (here)
    The NY Daily News reported today that General Flynn posted and then 30 mins. later deleted a tweet with a photo showing Weinstein and Hillary together. If you go to Flynn's Twitter page, it's easy to see that he has not tweeted much of anything since 2016. Something weird going on here. Oh, and Flynn's alleged tweet contains a strange code.
    "Flynn's son, Michael Flynn Jr., told the Daily News that his father's tweet, which was captioned "DGfffcf" was the result of a hack, and said they are "currently addressing" the matter."

    MFLYNNJR🇺🇸
    @mflynnJR
    TWITTER LINK



    edit:
    Date: 2015-07-30
    Payment System: N/A
    Amount in USD (equivalent): 699.86
    Remittance-sending country: United States
    Remittance-receiving country: Philipines
    price (% of amount): 6.43
    Source: http://worldremittances.info/h/dgff

    Same code is found on Jack Posobiec Twitter account.
    Few hours before the 'Mike Flynn' tweet

    correction:
    I̶n̶d̶e̶e̶d̶.̶ ̶I̶t̶s̶ ̶a̶ ̶h̶a̶c̶k̶.̶
    DGfffcf - this is also a twitter account name


    Interesting Jack Posobiec video: Click on Image to view

    The Art of the Spy - UK Edition


    Jack asks a good question in the vid:
    Who did John Brennan meet in the summer of 2016?
    make the code a url (www.DGfffcf.com ) it comes up redirected to this interesting link http://overthetarget.com/

    has seven topics clickable

    FBI Missing Guns

    Allison Mack

    Seth Rich

    Andreas Karas Foundation

    Anthony Weiner

    Operation Crossfire Hurricane

    Harvey Weinstein

    i think it's possible someone chose flynnes account as a platform to get some attention drawn to the links on the over the target site

    i did not come up with the idea for using the code as a URL
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    The Pieces Are Being Rearranged To Trap The Deep State - X22 Report Episode 1578b
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    Published on May 28, 2018

    The North Korea summit is back on, the trap was set and the deep state went for it.

    Greece and Turkey make deals with Russia regarding pipelines and ship building.

    US warships enter South China sea according to unknown sources.

    Syria submits names to the UN to create a new constitution.

    Lavrov says Russia should control the southern part of Syria. Israel and Iran might be in negotiations for peace in the region, Syria might follow Putin's lead and ask Iran to leave Syria, in doing this the agreement will include the coalition forces and Russia will control the southern part of Syria with the Syrian Army.

    The pieces are now being rearranged to trap the deep state.

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    Quote Posted by bluestflame (here)
    make the code a url (www.DGfffcf.com ) it comes up redirected to this interesting link http://overthetarget.com/
    Both the tweet on General Flynn's twitter account that had "dgfffcf", and the website www.DGfffcf.com appeared on 25 May 2018. See this ICANN page for the registration date of DGfffcf.com.

    So I can't tell, from just these facts whether the website www.DGfffcf.com was put up by the same person(s) as who posted the tweet on Flynn's twitter feed, or whether some quick and creative anon saw that tweet and then grabbed onto the corresponding DGfffcf.com domain name.

    The overthetarget.com URL has been registered for over a month now (registered 24 Apr 2018), so all someone would have had to do, on 25 May 2018, is grab the DGfffcf.com domain name (which was unregistered at the time) and redirect it to their existing overthetarget.com URL.

    ===

    P.S. This Reddit post found some more exact time stamps, showing that the DGfffcf.com domain name was registered several hours after the Flynn tweet.
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    The North Korea summit is back on, the trap was set and the deep state went for it.
    I don't get it ... how did this on again, off again, on again dance "trap the deep state" ?
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    Did you notice the "Issue 11.11" in the Wired article? How do we REALLY know that they wrote the script? I once thought Milli Vanilli and The Monkees did the singing in their songs. This world is so inverted, we have to question those things.
    Yes, I did notice that the issue was 11:11. I took that as a positive sign.

    I downloaded the Matrix script a while back to study. (To learn the structure of a screenplay.)
    (I've also downloaded the Lords of the Rings, Chronicles of Narnia, and A Few Good Men. I'll download more in time to continue to learn. )

    I believe that the Wachowski brothers, (now known as siblings) did write the scripts.

    How do we REALLY know if anyone wrote anything?

    How do we know if James Cameron wrote, Terminator, and Avatar?
    Or that J. Michael Straczynski wrote Babylon 5? Or even that Stanley Kubrick wrote 2001: A Space Odyssey, Childhood's End and Eyes Wide Shut.

    But, it's reasonable that they each wrote what they were credited for writing.

    That said, there are theories out there of how people are selected to share certain things, and often they are "influenced" in their creative processes.

    The man who wrote Neuromancer, William Gibson, introduced the language of the cyberpunk genre.

    Every generation seems to pick up themes as if from the "aether", or the lake as some would call it.

    We're all influenced by this flow of intelligent energy all around us. The creative forces, may be another term we could use to describe it.

    Back to Q's post where he brings up the point of how in the Matrix humans are used as batteries to power the AI entities.

    A book I recently read, The Vital Question, explains how we generate energy at the cellular level, the essential role of mitochondria in this process.

    I've sometime said that life is an overunity generator, meaning the energy output is greater than the input.

    I'm still trying to figure out how to speak to what I read in the book. Essentially, it's a theses for the physics of biology, how biology evolved to generate energy. It's fascinating. It's applying first principles to biology.

    I remember thinking of the concept that gets floated in many places, of humans being batteries for others, as I was reading it.

    It comes to mind when reading Q's post, too. This would be a deeper layer than the immediate political concerns.
    Believe it or not, a woman, Sophia Stewart, claims to have been the real creator of the first Matrix storyline.

    From a 2015 Style Magazine article:

    Filing her case in 1999, Stewart claimed that the movie The Matrix was based on her manuscript “The Third Eye,” which was copyrighted in 1981. A manuscript that Stewart submitted to the Wachowski Brothers when they were searching for new sci-fi works.

    After an FBI investigation, it was discovered that a cover up had an occurred by filmmakers in editing the film. The original “The Matrix” film had been edited in a way to try to avoid copyright infringement. As the investigation proceeding witnesses, who were employees at Warner Brothers, came forward collaborating that Stewart’s work had been used in preparation for the film and that Warner Brothers executives and their lawyers were fully aware about everything that was going on.

    Stewart will now receive damages from The Matrix I, II, and III and The Terminator and its sequels. All of these films grossed over 2.5 billion dollars. Way to stick to your guns Stewart!


    Here is a more detailed article (2016) from Patch.com. And look, Scientology shows up. Sophia Stewart, Author, Creator & Copyright Owner Of The Matrix & The Terminator Movies & Their By Products

    The following illustrates the issues which have evolved during the case:

    The attorneys Ms. Stewart hired to represent her in the CA case were later found to have had relationships with the California judges as well as one of the defendants, Warner Bros., involved in the both California and Utah cases. However, neither the judges nor her lawyers mentioned this oversight to Ms. Stewart during the case in 2004, or the subsequent 2007 Case No. 2.07-CV-00552-EJF-DB malpractice case in Utah.

    The judges were required to recuse themselves at the first sign of conflict. Apparently, the judges and lawyers worked on previous cases together, had communication outside of courts, and also knowingly belonged to the same church, The Church of Scientology.


    And finally, here is a 2015 Project Camelot interview with Stewart:


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    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump · 49m49 minutes ago

    Sorry, I’ve got to start focusing my energy on North Korea Nuclear, bad Trade
    Deals, VA Choice, the Economy, rebuilding the Military, and so much more, and not
    on the Rigged Russia Witch Hunt that should be investigating
    Clinton/Russia/FBI/Justice/Obama/Comey/Lynch etc.

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump · 2h2 hours ago

    We have put a great team together for our talks with North Korea. Meetings are
    currently taking place concerning Summit, and more. Kim Young Chol, the Vice
    Chairman of North Korea, heading now to New York. Solid response to my letter,
    thank you!

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    Summit outlook: US officials negotiate with North Korea

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQETMylDVVQ
    Published on 29 May 2018....Fox...( 7 mins)....
    'Special Report' All-Stars weigh in on Trump administration strategy for North Korea.
    ===================================================
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    U.S. teams in North Korea, Singapore try to salvage summit


    Published on 28 May 2018
    Key negotiations were underway in North Korea and Singapore to save a summit
    between President Trump and Kim Jong Un. On Twitter, the president also praised
    the North, saying it has "brilliant potential and will be a great economic and
    financial Nation one day." CBS News foreign correspondent Ben Tracy and Gordon
    Chang, author of "Nuclear Showdown: North Korea Takes on the world," explain the
    latest developments to CBSN.

    ===================================================



    North Korea's Kim Yong-chol 'heads to US for talks'


    General Kim Yong-chol (pictured) is regularly seen at Kim Jong-un's side

    One of North Korean leader Kim Jong-un's most senior officials is thought
    to be travelling to the US, as preparations for a possible summit gather pace.
    South Korean news agency Yonhap said Gen Kim Yong-chol was due to arrive
    in the US on Wednesday, via Beijing. This could be part of preparation for a
    proposed meeting between Mr Kim and President Donald Trump.

    The meeting was thrown into doubt after Mr Trump pulled out last week. But
    both sides have been working to get the summit - scheduled for 12 June
    in Singapore - back on track. It would be the first time a North Korean leader
    has met a sitting US president.

    read more.....


    Gen Kim (R), pictured here behind Ivanka Trump, attended the closing ceremony of
    the Pyeongchang 2018 Winter Olympics
    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-44286284

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    US, North Korea differ over timeline of denuclearization

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5lCaVXCSJo
    Published on 28 May 2018...Fox...( 4 mins)...
    Pyongyang reportedly wants to dismantle its nuclear program on its own timetable;
    insight from Gordon Chang, author of 'Nuclear Showdown: North Korea Takes On
    the World.'

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    Gen. Keane on North Korea: Trump is in the driver seat

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-POCCFPY-o0
    Published on 29 May 2018...Fox...( 5 mins )...
    Fox News senior strategic analyst Gen. Jack Keane (Ret.) on President Trump's
    handling of North Korea.

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    Top North Korean official Kim Yong Chol heading to US

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lEfPuROsGg
    Published on 29 May 2018...CNN...( 10 mins )...
    One of North Korean leader Kim Jong Un's top officials is traveling to the United
    States and will meet Secretary of State Mike Pompeo as the two countries lay the
    groundwork for on-again, off-again talks between Kim and US President Donald Trump.
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    The commander in Tweet on good form this morning.....



    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump · 2h2 hours ago

    The Fake Mainstream Media has, from the time I announced I was running for
    President, run the most highly sophisticated & dishonest Disinformation Campaign
    in the history of politics. No matter how well WE do, they find fault. But the
    forgotten men & women WON, I’m President!
    -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump · 1h1 hour ago

    Why aren’t the 13 Angry and heavily conflicted Democrats investigating the totally Crooked
    Campaign of totally Crooked Hillary Clinton. It’s a Rigged Witch Hunt, that’s why! Ask them
    if they enjoyed her after election celebration!

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump · 1h1 hour ago

    The 13 Angry Democrats (plus people who worked 8 years for Obama) working on the rigged
    Russia Witch Hunt, will be MEDDLING with the mid-term elections, especially now that Republicans
    (stay tough!) are taking the lead in Polls. There was no Collusion, except by the Democrats!

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    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump · 1h1 hour ago

    “This investigation involved far more surveillance than we ever had any idea about. It wasn’t just
    a wiretap against a campaign aide...it was secretly gathering information on the Trump Campaign
    ...people call that Spying...this is unprecedented and scandalous.” Mollie Hemingway

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    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump · 2h2 hours ago

    Democrats mistakenly tweet 2014 pictures from Obama’s term showing children from the Border in
    steel cages. They thought it was recent pictures in order to make us look bad, but backfires. Dems
    must agree to Wall and new Border Protection for good of country...Bipartisan Bill!


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    ‘Reading those tweets is what HE wants us to do’: Trump-Spygate media craze in full swing
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LYmrUJCEPEg
    Published on 29 May 2018...RT...( 4 mins)...
    America is split and not just along Democrat and Republican lines. This time, it's
    about one word – “spygate.” The term was used by US President Donald Trump to
    refer to the intelligence services' planting of an alleged mole in his election campaign.
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    Quote Posted by LadyM (here)
    I once thought Milli Vanilli and The Monkees did the singing in their songs. This world is so inverted, we have to question those things.
    I can restore a tiny bit of faith LadyM - The Monkees did sing on their records, and play the instruments on their tracks, and perform live at concerts and TV shows. Nesmith, Dolenz, Tork and Jones were, though actors, musicians/singers at the same time.

    The show depicted a struggling fictional band [initially], but they ended up becoming a genuine band. They wrote a lot of their own material too (after long battles with their producers), however their best known hits such 'Daydream Believer' were written for them (but they played them and sang them themselves). They went on to perform, tour, and record for many years, long after the show was cancelled.


    :back to topic:
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    Quote Posted by LadyM (here)
    Quote Posted by edina (here)
    Quote Posted by LadyM (here)


    Did you notice the "Issue 11.11" in the Wired article? How do we REALLY know that they wrote the script? I once thought Milli Vanilli and The Monkees did the singing in their songs. This world is so inverted, we have to question those things.
    Yes, I did notice that the issue was 11:11. I took that as a positive sign.

    I downloaded the Matrix script a while back to study. (To learn the structure of a screenplay.)
    (I've also downloaded the Lords of the Rings, Chronicles of Narnia, and A Few Good Men. I'll download more in time to continue to learn. )

    I believe that the Wachowski brothers, (now known as siblings) did write the scripts.

    How do we REALLY know if anyone wrote anything?

    How do we know if James Cameron wrote, Terminator, and Avatar?
    Or that J. Michael Straczynski wrote Babylon 5? Or even that Stanley Kubrick wrote 2001: A Space Odyssey, Childhood's End and Eyes Wide Shut.

    But, it's reasonable that they each wrote what they were credited for writing.

    That said, there are theories out there of how people are selected to share certain things, and often they are "influenced" in their creative processes.

    The man who wrote Neuromancer, William Gibson, introduced the language of the cyberpunk genre.

    Every generation seems to pick up themes as if from the "aether", or the lake as some would call it.

    We're all influenced by this flow of intelligent energy all around us. The creative forces, may be another term we could use to describe it.

    Back to Q's post where he brings up the point of how in the Matrix humans are used as batteries to power the AI entities.

    A book I recently read, The Vital Question, explains how we generate energy at the cellular level, the essential role of mitochondria in this process.

    I've sometime said that life is an overunity generator, meaning the energy output is greater than the input.

    I'm still trying to figure out how to speak to what I read in the book. Essentially, it's a theses for the physics of biology, how biology evolved to generate energy. It's fascinating. It's applying first principles to biology.

    I remember thinking of the concept that gets floated in many places, of humans being batteries for others, as I was reading it.

    It comes to mind when reading Q's post, too. This would be a deeper layer than the immediate political concerns.
    Believe it or not, a woman, Sophia Stewart, claims to have been the real creator of the first Matrix storyline.

    From a 2015 Style Magazine article:

    Filing her case in 1999, Stewart claimed that the movie The Matrix was based on her manuscript “The Third Eye,” which was copyrighted in 1981. A manuscript that Stewart submitted to the Wachowski Brothers when they were searching for new sci-fi works.

    After an FBI investigation, it was discovered that a cover up had an occurred by filmmakers in editing the film. The original “The Matrix” film had been edited in a way to try to avoid copyright infringement. As the investigation proceeding witnesses, who were employees at Warner Brothers, came forward collaborating that Stewart’s work had been used in preparation for the film and that Warner Brothers executives and their lawyers were fully aware about everything that was going on.

    Stewart will now receive damages from The Matrix I, II, and III and The Terminator and its sequels. All of these films grossed over 2.5 billion dollars. Way to stick to your guns Stewart!


    Here is a more detailed article (2016) from Patch.com. And look, Scientology shows up. Sophia Stewart, Author, Creator & Copyright Owner Of The Matrix & The Terminator Movies & Their By Products

    The following illustrates the issues which have evolved during the case:

    The attorneys Ms. Stewart hired to represent her in the CA case were later found to have had relationships with the California judges as well as one of the defendants, Warner Bros., involved in the both California and Utah cases. However, neither the judges nor her lawyers mentioned this oversight to Ms. Stewart during the case in 2004, or the subsequent 2007 Case No. 2.07-CV-00552-EJF-DB malpractice case in Utah.

    The judges were required to recuse themselves at the first sign of conflict. Apparently, the judges and lawyers worked on previous cases together, had communication outside of courts, and also knowingly belonged to the same church, The Church of Scientology.


    And finally, here is a 2015 Project Camelot interview with Stewart:

    Ha, .. too funny, I had thought of Terminator, too, because of the shared theme of the dangers of AI.

    I see better now why you mentioned the Church of Scientology.

    So, where did Sophia Stewart get her ideas for the movie, I wonder.

    Her copyright was in 1981. Neuromancer was published in 1984.

    Zeitgeist of the times, ???

    One of the points brought up in the book I read, The Vital Question. Is that the scientific field of biology became entranced with the idea that life is information, when DNA was discovered in the 50's. But that's not the whole of it.

    Energy is central to life, and it's been left out of the equation for a long time.

    I've noticed over the years that throughout history, the deeper exploration into the fact that we are energy beings, and our bodies are built on an electric structure, seems to get suppressed. It's like someone doesn't want us to know just exactly who we are, or how our human instruments work.

    When I finished reading The Vital Question, I thought to myself, ... they'll never be able to pull off what they want with AI and silicate based systems. Life is carbon-based for a reason. This is why I thought of how whoever is hell-bent on pushing the transhumanism movement may turn to the solution of using the majority of humanity to battery power their trans-human existence.

    But, I'm still processing it all, so, I may be way off in my thinking.

    We're more than just bits of data, though. The theory that life is information is incomplete.
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    This is interesting everyday CIANN has a anti Trump segment most days several
    and they have gone over many memes trying to discredit him. Today its back
    to 'conspiracy theorist' classic intel disinfo. I find it sad ,annoying and amusing as
    they imply ' conspiracy theorists' are not critical thinkers and not willing to take
    responsibility. I know we can ignore it but she claims to be a open journalist
    and maybe she and many others in the mainstream should take a good look at
    themselves in a mirror and stop looking down their noses at people who seek
    the truth and not just the BS put out by the corporate media....

    Haberman: Trump is legitimatizing conspiracies


    Published on 29 May 2018
    CNN political analyst and New York Times reporter Maggie Haberman
    discusses President Trump's history of promoting conspiracy theories.

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    This one has also set off Morning Joe.....

    Ivanka Trump Wins New Chinese Trademarks | Morning Joe | MSNBC

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a4LjF4EU-c
    Published on 29 May 2018...msnbc...( 18 mins)....
    Ivanka Trump's growing portfolio of trademarks in China raises questions about
    whether Chinese officials are giving the Trump family extra consideration that they
    otherwise might not get, according to the New York Times. The panel discusses
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    Ivanka Trump wins trademarks for products in China

    29/5/18

    Ivanka Trump has won several new trademarks for her products in China, according
    to official documents. The products registered by Ivanka Trump Marks LLC
    reportedly include bathmats, textiles and baby blankets.The timing has led to
    allegations of potential conflicts of interest within the Trump family.The trademarks
    were granted a week before her father, President Donald Trump, made a U-turn on
    a US export ban against China's technology firm ZTE.However legal experts told the
    BBC the time taken to approve the trademarks was broadly in line with the average.

    read more...http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-44285603

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    Though tariffs are still on the table....



    Trump's China tariffs could be imposed in June

    44 minutes ago...29/5/18

    The US has said it plans to impose 25% tariffs on $50bn worth of Chinese
    imports "shortly" after mid-June.Critics had accused the administration of going soft
    on China after Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin said tariffs were on hold while
    the two sides continue trade talks.

    But the White House said on Tuesday that a final list of imports slated for tariffs will
    be published by 15 June.China said it was both "surprised and unsurprised" by the move.

    read ....more... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-44294131


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    The Twitter craziness continues into this week. Last week, of course, we had the tweet from Flynn. Over the long weekend, we had the QAnon tweet from Wikileaks.

    Yesterday, Jack Posobiec got called out for his comments in a retweet of Wikileaks' QAnon tweet, someone even suggesting he is part of a coordinated attack against Q.

    Jack Posobiec tweet:
    May 28
    Jack Posobiec 🇺🇸 Retweeted WikiLeaks
    Various state actors have been slipping disinfo into the “Q-stream” for some time now


    Today, we have Roseanne Barr going at with Chelsea Clinton and Valerie Jarrett. Then she seems to apologize to both and says she's leaving Twitter. And it appears ABC has canceled her show over the Jarrett tweet event. Read more about it here.

    Have I miseed anything? And what's really going on? Wikileaks' tweet is a head-scratcher, but maybe not if they have been compromised. Roseanne's tweeting is drawing attention to her Twitter page, which has a lot of Q references on it.

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    Quote Posted by mountain_jim (here)
    I would assume the above is untrue, but not because Snopes says so - because of YourNewsWire history.
    I rather like Jim Stone's take on this ... yes, YourNewsWire is fake, but CNN is faker.

    Jim Stone writes:
    Quote CNN raided?
    There is a rumor circulating about CNN being raided by the FCC for producing blatantly false news, and that the FCC seized tons of equipment to uncover who at the network is directing the deceptions. It originated at Your News Wire.

    QUESTION: Did it happen?

    Snopes calls it blatantly false, and claims Your News Wire is a fake news site. I will typically not link Your News Wire and a few others, because they are too often sketchy, but anyone who thinks CNN is more accurate than Your News Wire is lost, CNN produces so much blatantly false crap that if Your News Wire was a stepping stone to a place higher than CNN, there would only be one step after that to absolute truth.
    ...

    There is heated debate in the forums and blogs as to whether or not Your News Wire fabricated the report entirely. My take is that Your News Wire typically has at least a splinter of truth in what they say, and you can't say the same for CNN. The proof is going to be in the eating, let's see if CNN backs off on destroying reality at least a little. That will be the litmus test.
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    Quote Posted by Cidersomerset (here)
    ... she and many others in the mainstream should take a good look at themselves in a mirror and stop looking down their noses at people who seekthe truth and not just the BS put out by the corporate media....
    To be honest mate, I think a lot of these so-called media pundits are not in denial of what's really going on, they're just shills pedalling an agenda. If they were to look hard in the mirror, I doubt an attack of conscience would befall them any time soon. They do what they do because it pays so very well. And maybe also, certain threats cow them into silence. None of them want to lose their careers!
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    Quote To be honest mate, I think a lot of these so-called media pundits are not
    in denial of what's really going on, they're just shills pedalling an agenda.
    Many are especially at CNN and all the networks have agendas and bias's which is
    fine if they are up front like Fox and MSNBC and the rest are somewhere in
    between by and a large. Most anchors are just sheep reading from the teleprompter
    like Ron Burgundy from the movie Anchorman. Its the lack of investigational
    journalists in the mainstream and editorial power dictated by corporate interests
    that stands out. Now with increased access to alternate news sources on the web,
    since Brexit & more so with Trump the globalists are fighting back as we have seen
    over the past few years.

    Breaking Roseanne has been cancelled which normally would not be a problem
    except it is one of the few balanced comedy shows politically on US TV most
    are anti Trump in some form that I have seen , granted that is not all of them
    and the left have been sniping at the show since episode one .......

    CNN are now going overboard over this with several large segments on their
    U'tube channel already....

    Quote President Trump told supporters Roseanne 'was about us'


    ABC drops Roseanne show after racist tweet

    15 minutes ago...29/5/18

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cwL5R-Zu36c
    President Trump told supporters Roseanne 'was about us'

    ABC TV network has cancelled comedian Roseanne Barr's sitcom after she posted a
    racist tweet likening an African-American former Obama aide to an ape. ABC
    said: "Roseanne's Twitter statement is abhorrent, repugnant and inconsistent with
    our values and we have decided to cancel her show."

    Barr's tweet said Valerie Jarrett was the child of the Muslim Brotherhood and the
    Planet of the Apes film.The reboot of her hit '90s sitcom "Roseanne" has been a
    ratings hit.The comedian deleted her original post, but could not contain the
    backlash.

    read more....http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44294632
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    ABC cancels ‘Roseanne’ after star’s controversial tweets


    Published on 29 May 2018
    Fox News contributor Herman Cain on ABC canceling “Roseanne"
    after Roseanne Barr’s racist Twitter rant.

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    ABC cancels 'Roseanne' after Barr's racist tweet

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwU-gWjaQWQ
    Published on 29 May 2018...Fox...( 3 mins )...
    ABC announced they were taking the hit sitcom reboot off the air shortly after
    Roseanne Barr, one of their biggest starts, apologized for going on a racist Twitter
    rant about former Obama adviser Valerie Jarrett. Read more on this story here: https://fxn.ws/2kzEIKw

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    ABC cancels "Roseanne" after Barr's racist tweet

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jxuO1k_jGQs
    Published on 29 May 2018.....( 7 mins)
    ABC is pulling the plug on "Roseanne" after a racist tweet by star Roseanne Barr.
    ABC Entertainment president Channing Dungey called the tweet "abhorrent,
    repugnant and inconsistent with our values." Washington Post columnist Emily Heil
    joins CBSN to discuss.

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    1st Amendment Expert, Marc Randazza, Weighs In On Roseanne Cancellation

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njxxPE-dNo4
    Published on 29 May 2018....( 15 mins )...
    Marc J. Randazza joins Alex Jones live in studio to give his expert analysis of
    Roseanne's television-reboot cancellation and draw the line of where the 1st
    Amendment ends and free speech begins.

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    Why Is There A Global Media Ban On England's Pedophile Network?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZw-q9yd3DE
    Published on 29 May 2018....( 19 mins)....
    Godfrey Bloom joins Alex Jones live via Skype from the UK to explain England’s
    media blackout regarding the Telford Pedophile scandal that has seeped into the
    internet and American media.

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    Trump says top North Korea official is headed to U.S. for meeting

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8p26IyA9v8
    Published on 29 May 2018...CBS...( 10 mins )...
    President Trump says the summit with North Korea could still happen despite last
    week's setbacks. McClatchy News' White House correspondent Franco Ordonez joins
    CBSN with the latest developments

    ===================================================
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    Shadowy figures behind US-North Korea diplomacy

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R2Vv9CSWC_c
    Published on 29 May 2018...CNN...( 6 mins )....
    CNN's Barbara Starr reports on top US and North Korean spies who are helping
    drive the planning for a meeting between President Donald Trump and North
    Korean leader Kim Jong Un.
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    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
    The North Korea summit is back on, the trap was set and the deep state went for it.
    I don't get it ... how did this on again, off again, on again dance "trap the deep state" ?
    Hope this helps, Paul...

    This explanation is also contained within the X22Report video (below), also found in KiwiElf's Post #4604. I transcribed the Qanon part of the video in my Post #4126 on the Transition into Trump thread. Will repost it below...

    My sense is that the meeting between Kim Jong-un has really already taken place. And the letter that supposedly Trump had written to Kim on May 24th, 2018, Q had informed us beforehand that this letter was actually written on May 16, 2018 , because this was the date of Q's drop with the picture of the pen with the letter. This 'letter' was meant mostly for the corporate MSM to eat up. And perhaps, Kim may not have even received this letter at all.



    The Trap Was Set, The Trap Has
    Been Sprung - Episode 1577b

    (May 25, 2018)


    VIDEO


    Video LINK: https://youtu.be/Pv7YmBvkPfA?t=6m25s
    TRANSCRIPT STARTS @ 6:25

    Dave @ X22Report:
    So we can see with North Korea, right now, Trump laid out this whole entire plan. And, its not just Trump, its the patriots behind this. And he sent this letter to Kim Jong-un. And said that he's canceling the Summit.

    Now, Kim Jong-un said, "No. No. I don't want you to cancel the Summit. The Summit should still proceed." And now they're saying, "On June 12th, maybe the Summit will proceed."

    Bloomberg news


    So, it looks like this was the 'trap', because all along the corporate media was telling us that Kim Jong-un was figuring out a way to cancel this. And now, it doesn't make any sense, because he's saying he doesn't want this to be canceled. He wants this to continue & move forward.

    And I do believe, that the real Summit, the real peace talks, have already taken place. This is just for show. This is for the rest of the world. This is why North Korea went along & released the hostages, with no problems... went ahead & denuclearized, with no problems. Because this was a part of their deal.

    And I believe, right now, Trump was trapping the corporate media, trapping the intelligence agencies, that were trying to push their agenda - because they don't want peace in North Korea.

    And right now, the White House - the team - they haven't canceled their travel plans to Singapore. They're still moving forward with this, as of today! Now maybe they will cancel it. But at this point, everything is still being prepared, right now. They have not received any cancelation orders, whatsoever.

    Now what's very interesting... is anons have been researching this. And, we're going back to Q now. And what they're saying is that Trump put up two messages.

    First up, Trump’s Jong/Jung letter:




    And what someone pointed out was - where he put up his letter to Kim Jong-un - and, he spelled Jong J-u-n-g, and then, changed it to J-o-n-g. So, it was a spelling mistake.

    Well, this was actually brilliant. Because, Trump actually let out some information. Because, in Korean, 'J-u-n-g' in Korean means 'a friend that you deeply care about'. The other spelling, 'J-o-n-g', means 'slave'. So, first Trump had the 'J-u-n-g', which means 'you are a friend', then changed it to his other spelling - the proper spelling of his name, 'J-o-n-g'. So, that was a message that said, "Yes, we are friends."

    Now, if we go back to Q's post, 1383, and other posts, where he said, 'Follow the Pen,' and he gave different pictures of the pen.



    One of the anons mapped all of this out, and took the pictures of the letter, and took the picture of where the pen was, the photos that Q releases, and put it all together. And, basically, shows how these are all connected. And, the letter, which is shown in the picture that Q dropped, this was already written in the past. (See the anon composite graphic below.)

    So, this was planned from the beginning. This was a trap - to trap the corporate media, to trap the intelligence agencies, to trap the Deep State into continually pushing their agenda. And then, turn it around, to say, "Where did you get this story?" Where, he never said these things. "What are you printing? What are you putting out there? These are lies. These are fake news!"

    And, I think we are going down this path, because you can see, right now, Kim Jong-un is saying, "No, we need to have this Summit." And, they're still preparing for June 12th. Which is very interesting.

    And, if you go back to post 1381 (now 1379), this was on May 16, where Q said:



    'Letters left visible to match.'

    And if you look at this, you can see from the pictures from where the pen was, it says... you can read it... 'White'... and, then you see 'House'... and, it matches the letter that he had written to Kim Jong-un. And if you look at the other letters where the pen is, where you see the 't', the 'a' & all the other things - they match up.


    Q was telling us that this was already done.

    And if we go back to, 'Future proves past.' The future just proved the past. And, its 100% Q-proof!



    So we can see, right now, that the trap was set, the trap was sprung. And, its backing the Deep State into a corner.

    Source: neonrevolt.com
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    Quote Posted by turiya (here)
    So, it looks like this was the 'trap', because all along the corporate media was telling us that Kim Jong-un was figuring out a way to cancel this. And now, it doesn't make any sense, because he's saying he doesn't want this to be canceled. He wants this to continue & move forward.

    And I do believe, that the real Summit, the real peace talks, have already taken place. This is just for show. This is for the rest of the world. This is why North Korea went along & released the hostages, with no problems... went ahead & denuclearized, with no problems. Because this was a part of their deal.

    And I believe, right now, Trump was trapping the corporate media, trapping the intelligence agencies, that were trying to push their agenda - because they don't want peace in North Korea.
    Ah - ok - that makes more sense. Thanks.

    In other words, if I get the point correctly, Trump could expect that the deep state would try to sabotage this effort to settle the Korean Conflict, so with this on again, off again, on again dance, Trump got the deep state and their controlled media on the wrong foot (with the media saying Kim Jong-un didn't want the meeting, only to have Kim Jong-un make it very clear that he did want it) , thereby weakening the Deep State's efforts to sabotage this settlement effort.
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