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    There's finally some talk of oversight on Mueller and his team by the media. Hopefully Trumps team has heard what the prognosticators said, and can make it happen and have the Judicial Committee through oversight of Congress, investigate the Mueller team for the inability to be unbiased. It is that easy, if the Democratic opposition still wishes to investigate they can decide to create a new special council that is truly unbiased. This proves that what Rudy said that Mueller's team is not legitimate. Plus polls show the American people are tired of the ongoing investigation and feel it should stop now before 2018 elections get rolling. The release of the IG reports will hopefully show what happened.

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    President Donald Trump holds
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    When I heard about Roseanne my immediate thought was - 'next thing we hear she will be checking in to a detox'. I knew she was on something whether drugs or alcohol or what... well, here it is, she is saying it was Ambien.

    From zerohedge one minute ago - https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-...-show-canceled

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    Bowman was married to educator Barbara Bowman
    and they had one daughter,Valerie Bowman Jarrett,
    who was a Senior Advisor to President Barack Obama.





    The Truth About Roseanne Being Canceled
    (May 30, 2018)









    Donald Trump Jr retweets Roseanne Barr's
    tweet regarding George Soros...

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    Trump Turned The Table On The Deep State
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    Trump says he wishes he had picked
    someone other than Sessions as AG

    (May 30, 2018)
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    President Trump is responding to a "CBS This Morning" interview with Rep. Trey Gowdy. We asked the congressman if reports of Mr. Trump asking the attorney general to reverse his decision to recuse himself from the Russia probe would constitute obstruction of justice.


    Rep.Trey Gowdy, “I don’t think so, I think what the President is doing is expressing frustration that Attorney General Sessions should have shared these reasons for recusal before he took the job, not afterward. If I were the President and I picked someone to be the country’s....

    5:46 AM - 30 May 2018


    ....chief law enforcement officer, and they told me later, ‘oh by the way I’m not going to be able to participate in the most important case in the office, I would be frustrated too...and that’s how I read that - Senator Sessions, why didn’t you tell me before I picked you.....

    5:47 AM - 30 May 2018


    ....There are lots of really good lawyers in the country, he could have picked somebody else!” And I wish I did!

    5:47 AM - 30 May 2018
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    Jeff Sessions is an enigma... and I wish he would look at how his decisions affected the Administration and the Country and that he should resign. Not resigning tells us that he is looking at this situation from a selfish perspective. He might have good intentions but there could also be something else we don't know yet and Trump should't have to take that risk especially knowing that his number 1 leader of the Judicial has questionable motives. Just looking from outside Sessions is quick to act on crimes when the law is behind him but when it comes to the good old fellas club and the entrenched deep state he seems to be a deer in the headlights and terrified of them.
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    I don't think ANY of us realized how deeply entrenched this Rotten System was OR for how many years!

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    Jeff Sessions is an enigma... and I wish he would look at how his decisions affected the Administration and the Country and that he should resign. Not resigning tells us that he is looking at this situation from a selfish perspective. He might have good intentions but there could also be something else we don't know yet and Trump should't have to take that risk especially knowing that his number 1 leader of the Judicial has questionable motives. Just looking from outside Sessions is quick to act on crimes when the law is behind him but when it comes to the good old fellas club and the entrenched deep state he seems to be a deer in the headlights and terrified of them.
    X22Report deals with the Sessions issue...

    IG's Report To Be Reviewed, The Plan
    Moves Forward - Episode 1580b

    (May 30, 2018)
    Description:
    • Trump wants Sessions to look into the Russian collusion and unrecuse himself.
    • The IG report is coming out very soon, be prepared for some type of an event.
    • George Soros is pushing open borders to blend Europe.
    • There is now a new commander handling the Afghanistan crisis.
    • Iran asks OPEC for help.
    • War is being pushed in the southern part of Syria. Russia is calling for all foreign troops to leave Syria under the de-escalation agreement.
    TRANSCRIPT STARTS @ 1:14
    Dave of X22Report.com:
    Just today, Trump was out there with another tweet-storm. And, he pretty much said that he wished that he didn't pick Sessions as Attorney General. The president had asked Sessions to reverse his decision to recuse himself from overseeing the Russian investigation.

    So, he wanted him to reverse his decision. And this brings us back to a Q post which was very interesting, because this is a Q post that was made on May 21st [2018]. And basically it says:
    1433 (now, 1431)
    ...............
    ...............
    [RR] recuse/fired who has direct oversight of Mueller?
    Sessions un-recuse or #3 [until refill]?
    Who is Rachel Brand?
    Why was Rachel Brand dismissed?
    ...............
    ...............
    Of course, Rachael Brand was let go. The corporate media is saying that she decided to leave to take another job.

    So right now, I think what Trump is doing... he's giving the A-Okay to Sessions to unrecuse himself until #3 position is going to be filled. Now, this is probably the beginning stages of it. And this is where this is most likely headed. Remember, throughout all these Q posts, it is saying, 'Trust Sessions, Trust... and there's a whole list of who to trust & who not to trust.

    And now we see that the Inspector General's Report is coming out. Chairman Chuck Grassley of the Senate Judiciary Committee is going to hold hearings entitled Examining the Inspector General's First Report.


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    Recent Trump tweets...
    Trump Demands Apology From Disney's Iger For "Offending Millions Of People"



    "Iger, where is my call of apology? You and ABC have offended millions of people..."
    • May 31, 2018 8:10 AM


    Iger, where is my call of apology? You and ABC have offended millions of people, and they demand a response. How is Brian Ross doing? He tanked the market with an ABC lie, yet no apology. Double Standard!

    4:53 AM - 31 May 2018


    The corrupt Mainstream Media is working overtime not to mention the infiltration of people, Spies (Informants), into my campaign! Surveillance much?

    5:05 AM - 31 May 2018


    Not that it matters but I never fired James Comey because of Russia! The Corrupt Mainstream Media loves to keep pushing that narrative, but they know it is not true!

    5:11 AM - 31 May 2018
    Trump Blasts ABC For "Roseanne" Double Standard As Conservatives Point To Olbermann, Reid And Maher



    People are asking me how can i be black and still support Roseanne after the mistake she made, um the same way y’all still support Bill Maher after he said "House N*gger" and mocked black slaves
    • May 30, 2018 8:33 PM
    __________________________________

    Deep State is at it, again. Attempts to throw
    another 'monkey wrench' (no offense to VJ) into the talks with North Korea...
    __________________________________
    CIA Undermines North Korea Summit By Leaking Report To Media Asset



    Agency’s leak to a known “mop up man” represents a new low for the intelligence community...
    • May 30, 2018 11:00 PM
    .


    Will be giving a Full Pardon to Dinesh D’Souza today. He was treated very unfairly by our government!

    6:18 AM - 31 May 2018


    FAIR TRADE!

    2:19 PM - 31 May 2018
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    Wondering if it had become Transition into Hillary where would we be? Open boarders, mass migration, 1% GDP, high unemployment, war, gun control, etc etc. As a registered independent my only concern is for America to be a prosperous, safe & strong Country. Even blue dog democrats always wanted that and they must feel the loss of their old party philosophy, look how far left the Dem party is now and where the deep progressives want to take it. The current problems in Europe illustrate how bad the progressive model is and why America should never want to go there. Any honest review of the economy and current political climate should lead Americans to support a big red wave this fall.

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    Wondering if it had become Transition into Hillary where would we be? Open boarders, mass migration, 1% GDP, high unemployment, war, gun control, etc etc. As a registered independent my only concern is for America to be a prosperous, safe & strong Country. Even blue dog democrats always wanted that and they must feel the loss of their old party philosophy, look how far left the Dem party is now and where the deep progressives want to take it. The current problems in Europe illustrate how bad the progressive model is and why America should never want to go there. Any honest review of the economy and current political climate should lead Americans to support a big red wave this fall.
    I named this thread Transition into Trump because, at the time, there were a whole lot of people that thought Trump was a Hillary Clinton plant, or he was a New World Order shill working for the Rothschilds, or he was paid by George Soros, that he was a 'pied piper' candidate that would drop out at the last second so that Hillary would have an easy victory. Being a wealthy billionaire, I saw that alot of people didn't trust Trump at all. He's nothing but a typical facscist candidate working for the corporate elite.

    I understood Trump different from most. I can only say, because of my personal life experience, a meditative experience, that I could 'feel' that Trump truly meant what he said, at rallies, in speeches, whenever he was interviewed by the press, I felt it. I felt that he really meant what he said. Different from other people that I listened to.

    So, to me, it would perhaps take other people more time to get it - to really get what Trump is about. I watched Paul Joseph Watson make the transition. In fact the OP of this thread was a video by PJW allegedly accusing Trump of being a Hillary Clinton 'plant.' Then, I watched PJW make the transition. That's where the notion came from - on what to call this thread.

    So, it would be a 'transition' that people would have to go through for themselves in order to really get what Trump was about, for themselves & not because of what somebody else would say about him.

    Turning to your question about Hillary... Hillary was already an accepted politician. So, there was no need for anybody to go through a transition with Hillary Clinton. HRC is your typical dyed-in-the-wool, criminal lying politician. She already was completely supported by the MSM - the Deep State propaganda machine.

    So if she won, it would have been the end of America. America & the rest of the world would be well on its way to a New World Order communist totalitarian dictatorial state. It would have been an absolute disasterous situation, as the world would be run by the central banking system.

    Here's Ben Rhodes... on election nite...
    He's probably still trying to make the Transition into Trump...

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    Totally, mojo!!! I don't think we even understand how close we were to the precipice or how rotten & morally bankrupt this Ruling Elite class is & has been! I'm thankful for ALL those who have contributed to the Great Awakening!! Maybe this will lead to a new generation of Critical Thinkers!! Let's hope so!

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    Gowdy faces backlash over remarks about FBI, Trump campaign
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    Canada has treated our Agricultural business and Farmers very poorly for a very long period of time. Highly restrictive on Trade! They must open their markets and take down their trade barriers! They report a really high surplus on trade with us. Do Timber & Lumber in U.S.?

    6:18 AM - 1 Jun 2018


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    President Trump Responds to Earlier Comments From Canadian Prime Minister Justin Trudeau…

    Posted on May 31, 2018
    by sundance


    Grab your winnamins and hide the Ju-Ju bones. I thought this was going to be an issue when Prime Minister Trudeau publicly told reporters the content of a private conversation between Vice-President Mike Pence and himself. With incredibly bad diplomatic form, Justin from Canada has not only cemented the Steel and Aluminum tariffs as permanent – but Trudeau has likely destroyed any hope of the U.S. remaining in NAFTA.

    The White House has delivered a statement to the media, with a request to ensure authorship is directly and personally cited from President Donald J Trump:

    The United States has been taken advantage of for many decades on trade. Those days are over. Earlier today, this message was conveyed to Prime Minister Justin Trudeau of Canada: The United States will agree to a fair deal, or there will be no deal at all. (link)

    For those unfamiliar; this is about as close to an ultimatum as President Donald Trump generally delivers to his adversaries. Look back on his history and you’ll note rarely does Donald J Trump deliver ‘either this / or that’ approaches; it’s just not his style…. He doesn’t bluff. However, when Trump has decided to walk away from a deal, any deal, he delivers the “either/or” right before walking to the door. The final terms hang in the air providing the opposition with a few fleeting moments to reflect prior to exit.

    Once DJT exits the room, no deal. Even if the counter-party chases him down the hall with full agreement of terms; doesn’t matter. Once Trump exits, it’s done. Over.

    During his public remarks earlier today, Prime Minister Trudeau said a DC meeting with President Trump didn’t occur earlier this week because Vice President Mike Pence told the prime minister if they were going to discuss saving NAFTA he must allow a five-year sunset clause to be included in the trade agreement in order for the meeting to even happen. Trudeau called the condition “completely unacceptable” and didn’t go to DC.
    NAFTA is as close to dead as it has ever been.

    Need more winnamins.

    The Conservative Treehouse
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    STEVE PIECZENIK: TRUMP Will Not Back Israel,
    backs WORLD PEACE!

    (May 15, 2018)

    TRANSCRIPT:
    Infowars Owen Shroyer: What do you think is behind all the unrest in the Gaza Strip, because the embassy being moved to Jerusalem, or the captitol being declared Jerusalem - Why does that send so many people into unrest?

    Steve Pieczenik: Because Jerusalem has never been recognized as the official capitol of Israel. Basically, the State of Israel has said that 'in order to be unified, for us to be recognized internationally, we have to have our capitol in Jerusalem.'

    And the world said, "Wait a minute. That is the headquarters of Muslims, Christians & Jews. But that can't be your capitol."

    But there's a bigger issue than the movement of our embassy to Jerusalem, and that's what is not being talked about. The Israelis in the inevitable intelligence: In 1988-89, when I was there in the Gaza Strip, I was told about a new group that was being created by the Israeli Mossad, which was called 'Hama'.

    So ironically, the group that the Israelis have created, and are still in contact with, Hamas, is creating this dissension within the Palestinians. At the same time, you have Abbas, who's the head of PLO, who broke with Hamas, he's leaving & he's exiting. And they need a new leader for PLO.

    So in effect, what you're seeing, here, is an opportune time for both the Israelis to move their embassy, but more importantly, to create strategic tension in that area in order to cover-up what Bibi has - a personal problem - in terms of corruption, in terms of the inevitability of being jailed, and all of that. So, he's creating a domestic problem, he's creating an international problem with the Palestinians, and in process, also with the Iranians.

    Bibi has been a troublemaker for quite a while. And as General Sharon has said about Bibi - years ago. These are not my words, but I do agree with Sharon, who's one of the great generals of Israel. He said that Bibi was basically a coward. Not only was he was a coward, but he was reckless & self-aggrandizing. That was supported by the rest of the national security apparatus of Israel, including the Mossad, when they had a very famous general named Aghan & another general of the combat units called Ashkenazi, who all agreed that Bibi was a troublemaker, but basically a coward, who would get Israel into trouble with Iran.

    And internally, what you don't see, is the fact that Bibi is now in the self affrandizing mode. Trump has helped him through his nitwit son-in-law, Jared Kushner - the one that he had to pay $2 million to get to Harvard. And, at the same time, Bibi is allowing himself to self-aggrandize while, in fact, the Iranians & the Syrians are preparing for an inevitable war with Israel. And, at the same time, he's created dissension beyond the West Bank in Gaza.

    This is typical of Bibi. This is not typical of the national security apparatus of Israel, including the Shin Bet & the Mossad, who do not agree with Bibi. Plus, he has a vice-president [Deputy Prime Minister], Lieberman, from Moldavi, who has absolutely no idea about combat or strategy of tactics.

    So Israel is in a very dangerous position. And, its the parents of the Israeli Defense Force (IDF) who understand that they have 30,000 men who are on active duty, now. The reserves will be called up & there will be all kinds of quiet movement. They realize that Hezbollah is no longer just a small unit, as it was in 2006, where Hezbollah, less than 5000 people, defeated an Israeli army of 30,000, and the Jerusalem Post called it a disaster for Bibi. And the generals called it a disaster for Bibi.

    So once again, we're entering a period where Bibi is going to sacrifice the lives of Israeli Defense Force to create a tension point, so that he can continue on as Prime Minister, when in fact, they should rid themselves of this troublemaker.

    Infowars Owen Shroyer: Okay. Let's pause right there. Bibi, he's been in power for 25 years, it's probably too long. He's got his fingerprints all over the tension in that region. There's no doubt about that.

    But, let me take just one story... and, let's apply that to everything that you've talked about.
    So, you've got the IDF, which now claims they've stopped 5 terrorist attacks in the Gaza Strip, which they were saying that it was some terrorist organization - they'll blame Iran, or whoever it is... And the IDF is saying, "We stopped 5 terrorist attacks in this area."

    At the same time, you've got Israeli snipers, you've got Israeli drones dropping teargas - hitting people that are protesting in that region. So you kind of got everything - the tension focused in that region - Israel is saying, "Hey, we're defending ourselves. We're stopping terrorists." And, the people protesting are saying, "Hey, we have a right to protest, here. Quit shooting us. Quit dropping teargas on us."

    Trying to sort through all the madness, how do you make sense of all this? Do you think that Israel makes it up that they're stopping terrorist attacks? I mean, what is going on here?


    Steve Pieczenik: What I'm trying to say very simply is that, Bibi has created a strategic tension point on both sides - on Gaza, Hamas, and allowed Hamas to increase dissension within the Palestinians on the West Bank. And, Bibi is basically looking for trouble so that he can evoke the United States, in terms of not only the strategic issue, but in terms of military assistance.

    Bibi has always wanted to attack Iran directly. For the first time - what you mentioned last week when you saw that video - that was the first strike that the IDF airplanes have had ever against Iran, directly. Not against a surrogate, but against Iran.

    So, Bibi is pushing very hard to get the United States to get involved in a war that we do not want to get involved within - in fact, Secretary of Defense Mattis does not want to get into a war. This is, very simply, Bibi's attempt to create turbulence so that he can say, "Look. It wasn't my problem. I had this problem in 2006 with the Lebanon war, but I lost it."

    Infowars Owen Shroyer: But, what is the solution? If you have all these people going to the Gaza Strip in protest of Netanyahu, they're not Israeli citizens. What are they going to do?

    Steve Pieczenik: They can take out Bibi, if they want to. He is already culpable. He is a criminal. Right now, the Israeli judiciary can take him, arrest him, take him out, take care of Liberman.

    Infowars Owen Shroyer: But that's not going to happen, though. That's not gonna happen. So....

    Steve Pieczenik: It may happen, because the Mossad & the Shin Bet, both the exterior & internal do not agree with Bibi. Remember, they're things that have happened to Rabin & others, where they didn't want to go along with the Prime Minister... When you have seventeen....

    Infowars Owen Shroyer: Okay, it sounds to me, and this could make sense, if Bibi would step down & let someone else handle the issues in the Gaza Strip, that you could maybe actually reach your conclusion, here.

    Steve Pieczenik: Correct. That's exactly what I'm trying to say.

    Infowars Owen Shroyer: And, you do believe that there's people internally in Israel that may want to...

    Steve Pieczenik: Oh, easily. Oh yeah, there are many who are within the Mossad, within the Department of State in Israel, within the national... within even the right of the Likud party, who would be more than willing to have peace with the Palestinians.

    Remember what I just said, Hamas was created by Israel, its not an entity that works by itself. It is an entity that serves Israel, as well.

    Israel has created strategic tension throughout her whole life in order to make certain that there is...

    Infowars Owen Shroyer: Netanyahu needs to just say, "Hey look, congradulate me, I got the embassy in Jerusalem. I called it the capitol. I'm out."

    But it looks like he's not going to do that, maybe to protect his own hide, maybe because he is that power-hungry. I'm not sure what it is. We'll get more into that. Then, we're going to jump to get to the "Iran deal" - the deal that never was, with Steve Pieczenik, on the other side. Don't go away.

    This Iran deal continues to bother me. And, I've been trying to figure this out. Basically, I have two talking points that I want to get into with you:

    1) What do you think this is about Iran, essentially, threatening to name politicians who took bribes, or who were involved with - whatever it is - with this Iran deal? That has essentially to "blackmail", either the politicians, the Deep State or Trump? I'm not really sure - its essentially some threat to hang out there. What the goal is? I'm not really sure, either - maybe to get the "Iran deal" back - blackmail the Deep State to take out Trump, whatever it is. So, we got that angle of things, which I want to get your take on.

    But 1st, Steve, where is the 'Iran Deal'? Have you ever seen the 'Iran Deal'? Have you ever seen the actual documents? Have you ever seen anybody that has signed it? Have you ever seen a signature from the Iranians? From Obama?

    I've looked into this. I don't think there ever was a deal. The last thing that I could find was from the State Department that said it's an 'executive policy'. An executive policy - no deal, no treaty, no signatures, no Congress - nothing!

    I mean, am I reading this wrong? What is your take on this "Iran Deal?" Which I don't think that ever existed.


    Steve Pieczenik: Well, let me put it this way: Whether there's a piece of paper, or not, it's not as relevant as the fact that Obama made an overture to Iran. He may have given alot. But, here's the issue...

    The issue is not about nuclear weapons. It never has been. One of the reasons why I went into Iran years ago, was to see how desperate they really were & how effective the embargoes were. They were incredibly effective. What Iran needed was cash & currency & business. What we needed was to go back into Iran, particularly Boeing, particularly Haliburton. Many, many of our companies needed to come back into Iran to build up the economy & also to have business. The business of foreign policy is business. It is not nation-state building.

    Having said that...
    In 2006, when we got caught in Iraq - thanks to the neocons like John Bolton, and others - we have to get out of there. And the only country that help us, because we broke up Iraq, was Iran.

    Ironically, Soleimani - the head of the Iranian Revolutionary force - had killed our people, but at the same time had helped our military to get out of Afghanistan & Iraq.

    Now, ironically, as much as we are complaining about the Iran deal, and Trump is saying all these things about the Iran deal... What he's really doing is creating a position in the negotiation. But more importantly what's going on, is that General Funk of our army, has been working with Soleimani's deputy, Kasam al Aja Ajari, a Revolutionary Guard - a Shiite - who we have twice imprisoned for IED imports into Iraq, for having killled hundreds of our soldiers. And now, we're working with the very people who've killed our soldiers when they came into Iraq.

    What do thing about that one, Owen? That's what its all about.

    Infowars Owen Shroyer: I'm not surprised, actually. But, what do make of the Iranians saying, "We're going to release names of Western politicians," - who were being bribed, or who had their hands in this deal?

    Steve Pieczenik: You got to understand, again, in "The Art of the Deal" what Trump is doing. He's creating alot of tension. He's creating alot of confusion. He didn't say, "I'm leaving the Iran deal." He said, "I cannot accept the Iran deal as it is now." And, "I'm going to impose an embargo."

    But, the window is open for 90 days or more...

    And, this is the way he played with China. And China is acquiescing. This is the way he played with North Korea, and North Korea is acquiescing. And, I predict, this is the way Iran will acquiesce.

    What Iran wants more than anything else is American products coming in. If they don't buy our Boeing, they will buy Airbus from Toulouse, France. And the French are more than happy to ship in anything that we don't ship in.

    This is about commerce.

    The Israelis, also don't admit that they've been sneaking oil supplies into Iran when they need it. And when they work with the Iranians, you don't hear about it.

    Furthermore, for most of us Jews, we pray to the fact that Cyrus the Great had freed the Jews from Babylonia. So, the essence of Judaism in its prayers is the thankfulness to the Persian people. Now, think about that one. And, Soleimani is also Jewish.

    So, the whole thing is compounded by all types of minute details. But the real focal point is the fact that Trump is brilliant at negotiating & pushing Iran to the corner, while at the same time saying, "Guys, I'm open to the deal, but this deal isn't good enough for all the money you received. And, by the way, I'll be working with Soleimani to protect you guys in Iraq, in which he made a mistake. But I still want more."

    That's what he's doing.

    Israel is the fly in the ointment, but Isreal will be in trouble because of Bibi, and not so much because of Trump.

    Infowars Owen Shroyer: And, I want to get your take on this...

    Did Trump have the Jerusalem embassy launched the same week, essentially, that he canceled, or got out of the Iran deal. Do you think that was strategic of Trump to kind of just blow the whole thing up. And just a kind of a 'scorched-earth' thing, so he could just come in, here, with his own strategy to try to get something else done?


    Steve Pieczenik: I think you hit it on the head.

    He didn't do a 'scorched earth'. What he did was, at the same time, to say to Iran, "Look. I'm pulling out of the deal." At the same time, he allowed Bibi to think that he's manipulating Trump. Its the other way around - Trump is allowing Bibi to think that he's manipulating Trump, while at the same time, Trump is getting out of the Iran deal. He's going to watch what happens.

    If Bibi goes into war, Trump will not get into war with him. We have special units already on the border with Saudi Arabia. Mattis does not want war. Trump does not want war. He said it very clearly. "We've paid $7.6 trillion in the Middle East. We're not coming back."

    So, he's allowing Bibi to make his own mistakes. And, Bibi will do that.

    Because internally, the only ones that can control Bibi is the Mossad & the Shin Bek. That's up to them. Its been 30 years of their problem. If they don't want to do it, then its their problem.

    Externally, we're not controlling Bibi, because he runs to Putin. I told you all the times - like a little baby. And that's what Sharon called him - a coward & a little baby.

    Infowars Owen Shroyer: So, Bibi is the one that gets exposed, here. And, its his own hard-headed-ness... where even Kim Jong-un & the Ayatollah will end up making deals with Trump. Netanyahu is going to fall based on his own stubbornness.

    Steve Pieczenik: Correct. That's exactly what I predict. You hit it right on the head.

    Infowars Owen Shroyer: Well, that key, Steve. I mean, I don't disagree with you.

    If Israel doesn't realize that Trump is not going back them in a larger war against Iran, Netanyahu will fall on his own battar.

    That's it. That's it. Steve Pieczenik, great having you as always.

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    Thought this was funny.

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    Me thinks that Donald Jeffries needs to pay a bit more closer attention to what is taking place....

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    Interesting point... Trump escorts the North Korean diplomats to their cars... without the nonsense commentary by the talking heads of MSM.

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    VERY funny cartoon!!

    Also, turiya, Thank You so much for all you have done on this wonderful thread!!

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