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    Survival of the Friendliest: Homo sapiens Evolved via Selection for Prosociality

    There is a set of videos on Domestication & Human Evolution. Interesting.
    It unfortunate that psychopaths rule humanity, getting off from their grip won't be easy and impossible without FE, which they actively prevent.

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    Thanks Krishna:

    Yes indeed, since Darwin, the idea that humans have domesticated themselves has been a prominent idea. Interesting paper, and what I found particularly interesting is how Wrangham’s formerly ridiculed Cooking Hypothesis has been cited more frequently over the years, and called “strong” in that paper. On the video, maybe one day.

    Almost funnily, yesterday I also came upon a paper that argues that men almost drove themselves to extinction by warfare, in the ultimate Hobbesian scenario. The Rousseau/Hobbes battle among anthropologists is alive and well. I seem to be one of the few people out there that argues that both are true. When there was plenty of energy to go around, it was a golden age of peace and plenty. When the easy energy ran out, it was a battle to the death. One of my favorite Star Trek clips sums it up well.

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    Richard Wrangham has a paper behind paywall Two types of aggression in human evolution

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    Thanks Krishna:

    The whole paper is here. Always good to read Wrangham. Good stuff. I think that I’ll reply to his paper in a way that will make it into my new thread on comprehensive thinking. Human aggression certainly has evolutionary roots, and as you and I have written (as has de Waal, etc.), humans have aspects of both chimp and bonobo behavior. But I think that in the past 10,000 years, and probably the past 60,000 years, variations in human proactive and reactive aggression had everything to do with the economic situation. In a world of plenty, proactive aggression made little sense (raiding one’s neighbors, for example), and reactive aggression is almost always going to be some kind of scarcity reaction (fighting over food, mates, space). In a world of abundance, both proactive and reactive aggression will largely vanish.

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    Hi:

    While doing my reread of After the Cataclysm, and reading what their critics have to say once more, it can be mind-boggling to see how Noam and Ed were attacked with lies and irrationality, from professors and other “intellectuals.” Noam has been the world’s most prominent intellectual for the past 50 years, although brainwashed Americans would not know it. His work can be censored, and when TPTB cannot do that, he is attacked with a chorus of lies, issuing from leading “intellectuals.” Incredible.

    If they could do that to Noam, how hard is it to amass a parade of liars about Dennis? I put Dennis’s name into Google, and the first thing that comes up is Mr. Skeptic’s article, which is actually criminal libel. Virtually the entire first page of results comes from the “skeptics” and other liars. On the second page is my essay on Dennis and his critics. I have yet to see one of his critics ever deal the slightest bit honestly about his past, as he put the world’s best heating system on people’s homes for free. And that barrage of disinformation easily dupes the credulous.

    The issue, as always, is about integrity and sentience, both of which are in short supply, and particularly with intellectuals, bizarrely. When I see that, I really wonder if humanity has a prayer. One thing is for sure: establishment science, so-called “intellectuals,” the rackets, and the like are not where the answers will hail from.

    How time flies. It seems like just yesterday that the 50th anniversary of JFK’s murder passed, and in a few days, the 50th anniversary of RFK’s murder will pass. Both were taken out in spook operations that were covered up by the official “investigations.” I am planning to write on Noam and JFK in my new comprehensive thread. Noam got that one wrong, IMO. Mike Parenti’s take was the best from the Left, and Ed also entertained the idea that JFK was taken out by the spooks.

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    Hi:

    The term structuralism is found in many fields of inquiry, but is generally concerned with how things work. It looks at interrelationships and dynamics. A related and even synonymous term is functionalism. Back when I was still a teenager, after my mystical awakening and during my collegiate scientific studies, I saw the battles between Biblical “intelligent design” advocates and evolutionists/materialists. It seemed to be a battle between two fundamentalist camps, and those battles continue to this day.

    Uncle Ed’s Propaganda Model is a structural model of how the American media works. In discussing it, Ed noted that we cannot know what the thinking is of the media personnel and mavens (we are generally not mind-readers), and Ed contended that what they thought was unknown and unknowable, and was irrelevant to how the model worked. Ed did not deny that some knew what they were doing and some didn’t (and just followed the herd of mainstream assumptions and reporting), and that elites could directly intervene when their interests were threatened, but that what they thought was “unknowable and irrelevant.” In his The Myth of the Liberal Media, Ed went into great detail on what the Propaganda Model was. Intent was just not part of the model, even though he acknowledged that the model did not preclude elite intent and intervention. These distinctions can be subtle and tricky.

    When Barbara McClintock picked up her Nobel Prize, she challenged scientists to discover how organisms directed their evolution, which to this day flies in the face of materialist thought, in which everything is one big accident and evolution is driven by DNA replication errors. In the sciences, especially human studies, there is a school of structuralist thought. Heck, my epochal framework can be a called a structuralist model, and I would not mind the label too much, but I also will not say that people are automatons, with their minds straightjacketed by the economic (energetic) realities of their Epochs. Some could rise above those limitations, even spectacularly, although few ever did. Those structural constraints were powerful coercive forces over how people thought and behaved. Try to find an agrarian civilization in which women were not denigrated, were supposed to “know their place,” etc. That did not change until industrialization and the related demographic transition, and humanity’s transition into the Fourth Epoch is far from complete.

    Structuralist models are helpful for understanding how things work, but there has also been the tendency to argue that anything outside of the model’s field of inquiry did not exist, and that is arguably the greatest failing of structuralist and functionalist approaches. Those approaches became the foundation of the Fourth Epoch religion known as materialism. Because intent is not “known or knowable,” there has been a tendency to act as if it does not exist, and enlightened scientists have pointed out that lapse of logic, from Schroedinger to Knoll to Ruddiman, but it has not stopped the onslaught of materialist thought that issues from the “skeptics” and others.

    It took me many years to begin to understand what was driving both camps, and it really began coming clear when I resumed my studies in 2003, after finishing the 2002 version of my site, and I articulated the issue in my “Conspiracism and Structuralism” section of my 2007 essay that brought Brian back into my life. The conspiracist framework is generally about how elites act in concert to achieve their desired outcomes, at the expense of the rest of us. I am the last person who will deny their machinations, but I always argue that it is what the rest of us do that is vastly more important. Yes, the masses have abdicated their responsibility for the state of affairs as they play the victim, and both conspiracists and structuralists have done that. The victim mentality won’t get us anywhere. We need to think and act like creators if we want to make a dent (that combined positive intention that Brian wrote of), and creators create with love.

    Before this thread is finished, I am going to get into the structuralist versus conspiracist perspectives on issues such as the JFK hit and the free energy/ET cover-ups. They are all related, especially with what E. Howard Hunt told Doug Caddy. A comprehensive perspective takes in both the structuralist and conspiracist perspectives, sees them as parts of the whole, and acknowledges that both have their virtues and limitations.

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    Hi:

    In line with the theme of this thread’s first post, the next dyad to discuss is materialism and mysticism. As with the rest of them, it really pivots on the integrity issue. Materialism is a very seductive faith, especially for the “smart,” and virtually all of my fellow free energy travelers were being steeped in that religion, as scientists or scientists-in-training, when we had our mystical awakenings. Brian was a relatively old man, not having his awakening until he was nearly 40. The rest of us had ours by our early 20s, and usually as teenagers or earlier. Once we had our mystical awakenings, we could never again sit in those materialistic pews. Before Brian awoke, his peers’ favorite activity was ridiculing the paranormal, and if they were honest about it, they would admit that they were defending their faith as they sipped their sherry. Once Brian woke up, he realized that he no longer belonged and began his exit from the Establishment. I’ll allow that materialism is the religion of younger souls, who have little interest or talent in pursuing the inward journey. It seems to be a phase that all souls go through, and since the Fourth Epoch is the Epoch of Young Souls, that religion is appropriate (while they deny that is a religion ). The greatest scientists saw through the game and acknowledged its irrationality, but it has not stopped the priest class of materialism from arising, it is just another criminal enterprise, and they easily dupe the credulous, just like in all fields.

    When we had our mystical awakenings, we began exploring those realms, but with the discernment of scientists. As with everything else, we encountered the genuine and the bogus, and in my case, I came of age during the rise of the New Age in Southern California, and had seen it all by age 30, when I had my big awakening, the one that radicalized me. As with all other areas of endeavor, in a world of scarcity and fear, personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity. The New Age scene was full of “gurus” whose primary predilection was getting, as I colorfully put it, “paid and laid,” and the suckers lined up, usually New Age housewives seeking enlightened men.

    I was driven from my home by a hippie cult whose theme was “love,” visited other “intentional communities” that were usually cults of one kind or another, led by some guru who sampled the fruits, and it was kind of a standard racket. A saw endless charlatanry. Not so much that they faked their abilities, although some certainly did, but they used their talents to get paid and laid, attracting a flock to be fleeced, and the rest of that tawdry spectacle. On one hand, I can see the casual observer being repulsed by it, and anybody who is looking for an excuse to dismiss the mystical by the scandalous behavior of those in the field does not have to work very hard. On the other, their behavior was not so different from the criminal “skeptics,” the historians who sold their souls to the winds of wealth and power, the academics who assailed Noam and Ed, the media whores, the doctors who kill off their patients with the “approved” treatments, “experts” who sold industrial waste as medicine, and so on. So, picking on the charlatanry of Sai Baba or Love Israel is easy to do, and examples like them can be held up in all of the rackets.

    Again, it is always an issue of the bogus versus the genuine, and the search is not easy. For the serious seeker, there is more than enough meat to sink one’s teeth into, but it is also easy to lose one’s footing and float off into realms of delusion. People need to have their feet firmly planted on the ground to navigate these realms, and there are many casualties to be found along the way.

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    Wade
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    Hi:

    I am about halfway through my reread of Noam and Ed’s After the Cataclysm, and I am in their Cambodia chapter. I first wrote about it nearly 20 years ago, and it is still one heck of a read. After all these years, it is really something to read Ed and Noam’s work, and then read the hack attacks on it. For instance, the first paragraph of After the Cataclysm states:


    “We will consider the facts about postwar Indochina insofar as they can be ascertained, but a major emphasis will be on the ways in which these facts have been interpreted, filtered, distorted or modified by the ideological institutions of the West.”


    They really could not have been more explicit, and they repeated that emphasis several times in After the Cataclysm, but that did not prevent a major international campaign by the world’s “intellectuals” to lie about what Noam and Ed wrote.

    The full title of their book is After the Cataclysm: Postwar Indochina and the Reconstruction of Imperial Ideology, and the part about reconstructing imperial ideology was explicit in the book and was a theme of theirs ever since. After the war was over, the spin doctors in the USA began framing the USA’s genocide as “blundering efforts to do good” and other outright lies. What the USA did was never a crime, but a “tragic error” in bringing the light to the world with its bombs and murders.

    Noam and Ed made astute comparisons of the USA’s apologetics with Nazi Germany’s. Hermann Goering, while being interrogated at Nuremberg, said that the genocide of the Jews was not a crime, but a “vast political blunder; many would have made good nationalists and joined in the Liquidation of the communists. If only Hitler had not confused the issues….” Klaus Barbie, during his comfortable “retirement” in Bolivia, after rendering his heroic service to U.S. intelligence, like Gehlen and so many others, said about the Jewish genocide, “the mass killings of Jews constituted a grave error. Many of the SS officers believed that the Jews could have been put to better use building roads to facilitate the advance of our troops.” They weren’t crimes, but mistakes.

    At the Dachau museum, which I visited in 1974, the Washington Post quoted the museum’s director as saying about the corporate use of slave labor, “It is a guilt never acknowledged here and rarely spoken about in our history books.”

    In 2009, Ed and Noam noted that the American media was already treating the invasion of Iraq in the same terms, while the occupation was ongoing. Ours are always noble efforts.

    I attended the California equivalent of Adolf Hitler Grammar School, in a town with a lovingly preserved mission, which was the concentration camp that was the instrument of genocide, so this is a subject near and dear to me.

    More heavy lifting, but it should be done soon.

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    Hi:

    Briefly, before I resume my busy day, my Ed bio project, and noting how fraudulent the academics and intellectuals are in their attacks, and how Dennis was subjected to far more spectacular and even deadly attacks, are partly done to help disabuse people of the social approach to free energy, as well as the many other delusional approaches. They won’t work. There is no student body, university, or “progressive” institution, much less any Establishment institution, such as those in Washington, D.C., that is going to help with this Epochal task. I constantly get free energy newbies who think that their social circle has the right stuff, and that is their egos and naïveté talking, but it is a typical lesson to learn, even a necessary one, to come to the understanding that virtually nobody is home, anywhere on Earth. It is just the reality of the planet we live on, and there is no use judging it, but pursuing what might work.

    Only when the awakened really awaken to that reality are they going to be any use for what I am doing. Otherwise, they chase their delusions that lead nowhere, and they can get wrecked lives and worse out of the deal. I learned these lessons the hard way myself. Again, my best students almost always do that for a little while, until they realize its futility (they were trying the easy way out), and then they come to me, ready to do the work and learn. Only then can progress be made with my approach. But time is short. This path is teaching me patience.

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    Hi:

    Today is the 50th anniversary of Robert F. Kennedy’s murder. I recall seeing my mother watch JFK’s funeral when I was five, but I was ten when RFK was murdered, only an hour’s drive from where I lived, and it is a vivid memory. If anybody thinks that one of those murders was due to a conspiracy, they have to suspect that both were. The Kennedy family themselves thinks that they were related. A person’s head has to be buried deeply in the sand to not suspect that those murders were related. But, amazingly, I have encountered people who think that they are unrelated crimes, even though they think that they solved JFK’s murder. That is a close cousin to the tunnel vision that has plagued scientific specialists, which Bucky Fuller said was encouraged by the ruling class, to keep scientists lost in the weeds, never seeing the bigger picture. Generalists see the connections, and comprehensive thinkers try to combine the detail-orientation of the specialist with the big-picture orientation of the generalist, which is no easy trick, but scientists today are trained to think that way, although their naïveté is a big problem, which helps to prevent them from truly understanding how our world works.

    It is not hard at all to see the connections between the deaths of JFK and RFK, and in a word: Rockefeller. The Dulles brothers were Rockefeller fixers from the beginnings of their careers. Richard Nixon was their creature. The Bush family worked for the Rockefellers back in the 1800s. David Rockefeller publicly challenged JFK’s policies, and after JFK was murdered, his Alliance for Progress became a Rockefeller tool and the antithesis of what JFK’s intentions for it were. Overthrowing Latin American governments became an American specialty after JFK’s murder, and the Dulles brothers began that parade with their overthrow of Guatemala’s government on behalf of Rockefeller interests (but those events go way back). E Howard Hunt ran the Bay of Pigs operation, led the operation that got JFK killed, was involved in overthrowing Guatemala’s government, and his statement to Douglas Caddy is amazing, but consistent with what I know.

    George Bush the First was involved in the Bay of Pigs operation (and later ran the CIA and stonewalled new president Jimmy Carter on the UFO/ET issue), JFK fired Allen Dulles over it, and Dulles soon led the “investigation” into JFK’s murder, with Rockefeller tool John McCloy, and the “lone nut” angle was being promoted within days of JFK’s murder. Dulles primed the other Warren Commission members before they even convened, sending them all a “lone nut” book. Gerald “Magic Bullet” Ford was there when Nixon was taken out, to step up, and Nelson Rockefeller was right behind him. Two “lone nuts” immediately tried to take out Ford, and Nelson nearly became the second president who was never on a ballot, and Ford was the first. When Reagan became president, a “lone nut” immediately tried to take him out, and the “nut” was a friend of the Bush family. This stuff is not even all that subtle.

    All of the “lone nut” assassins, from JFK to Reagan, including those who shot Martin Luther King, Jr., George Wallace, and John Lennon, had connections to intelligence operations. The guy who shot Lennon worked for the organization that was run by the father of the Reagan shooter. My personal opinion is that taking out JFK worked so well that the spooks had their heyday for a generation, taking out political figures at will, with a lone nut “assassin” served up each time.

    David Rockefeller actively managed the Empire clear into his 90s, calling Dennis at home, just before the feds ran him out of the country. It did not matter that the sitting president’s energy adviser was one of Dennis’s fans. The Rockefellers owned the Bushes. The Rockefellers were involved more than once in wiping us out. But the Rockefellers are not at the top, if they ever were. Slaughtering American political figures was more of a domestic issue than a global one. I’ll write more on this subject soon.

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    Hi:

    Sociality and enlightenment are two very different things, and I see them confused all of the time. Sociality is an evolutionary adaptation that allows members of a species to come together and enhance their chances of survival. Because humans are social animals, sociality is a constant theme. Seeking and maintaining acceptance by one’s in-group drives a great deal of human interaction, and the threat of ostracism is one of humanity’s greatest fears. Ostracism used to be a death sentence, so the fear of ostracism and the desire for in-group acceptance are powerful motivations for people, but all that it does is help people survive via their in-group status, and the out-group can go to hell, especially when they are vying for scarce resources, and energy most of all. The golden ages of the human journey were when energy was relatively plentiful.

    It might feel good to be socially accepted, but that has got nothing to do with enlightenment or love. People continually advocate the social approach to free energy, when it has never gotten anywhere, nor will it, as sociality is based on fear and survival, and the GCs are the masters of that game, as they use people’s greed and fear against them, especially in a nation in which greed is a virtue. Sociality is ultimately egocentric, never looking beyond the in-group’s welfare, as a way to ensure one’s own. Sociality is no way to achieve the Fifth Epoch, and plays into the free energy field’s state of arrested development. We have to aim far higher than that if we want to make a dent.

    In a way, sociality is on the other end of the spectrum from enlightenment, and I’ll agree that the pinnacle of enlightenment is what Michael says that the Infinite Spirit attains; its message is that we are all one, and that the Great Goal of all sentient species is attaining love, which is the energy of Creation. That is not the love of self that dark pathers attain, but the love of others, which spiritual masters attain. The only path to the Fifth Epoch with a prayer in today’s environment is combined positive intention, which Brian advocated, and when people are focused on a goal, social jockeying becomes meaningless.

    It takes a comprehensive perspective to winnow the wheat from the chaff, see the forest from the trees, and aim for the root instead of hack at branches. I am going to present some case studies of comprehensive thinking, to show what I mean, but nothing that I ever write will surpass my big essay, as far as comprehensive thought goes, and my site as a whole is an exercise in comprehensive thought, which is an Old Artisan undertaking if there ever was one.

    Time to begin my busy day.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi:

    As usual, the spring hiking has been blessed. I have been hiking plenty, enjoying the flowers, taking friends out hiking, etc. Attached are some pics from this spring. Some scenes remind me of that Hildebrandt pic of Gandalf’s return. Hiking in that will never get old. I am hoping for a good hiking year, as apposed to last year, and it has started out good.

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    Hi:

    Orwell called orthodox thinking a form of unconsciousness, and wrote (in his censored preface to Animal Farm) that trading one flavor of Kool-Aid for another was not exactly “progress.” The mind-boggling part of that is that the so-called “smart” are often the most trapped in their ideological cages. I saw it many times with Level 3s, and it has really been something to study for Ed’s biography project, as I will likely be doing for years. In The Political Economy of Human Rights, which was a prelude to Manufacturing Consent, Noam and Ed were crystal clear on how the propaganda system works, and the response to their work proved their point. Initially, their work was censored, in one of the most outrageous instances of censorship in the 20th century. That did not work, and The Political Economy of Human Rights was their censored version beefed up by nearly an order of magnitude.

    Their thesis and support for it were undeniable, so their critics completely ignored the thrust of their work and tried to twist it into their being apologists for Pol Pot, which was the furthest thing from what their work was about. Noam and Ed knew it was coming and tried to forestall that attack, but it was a futile effort, as the propaganda barrage overwhelmed their arguments in the public eye. Ed’s current Wikipedia bio is Exhibit A on how the propaganda system works, and we’ll see how my upcoming battle with the hacks goes. Academics and professors led the attacks on Noam and Ed, incredibly. A five-year-old could see how irrational their attacks were. But all manner of pundit attacked Noam and Ed with outright lies and obfuscations, and never addressed their thesis or evidence, as they tried mightily to twist their work into something unrecognizable to those familiar with Noam and Ed’s work. It was beyond insane, but as Ed and Noam wrote, those irrational pundits were usually not intentionally lying (although many did), but were incapable of being rational when their self-serving faith was challenged. While that may seem to absolve them of responsibility, it also brings up Brian’s question: are we a sentient species? It is just more proof of my journey’s primary lesson, which I learned 30 years ago. Dennis was arrested 30 years ago this month, and then my nightmare truly began. When the dust settled a couple of years later, I had been radicalized and would never see the world the same way again, and it prepared me for work such as Noam and Ed’s.

    This insanity can be seen in all manner of ideological addiction, and as Noam stated many times, a good propaganda system will have the appearance of rigorous debate, but only within the narrow confines of self-serving assumptions (that are clearly false, to anybody not drinking the Kool-Aid). As the Nazis did, the American pundits, virtually without exception, framed our evil activities in Southeast Asia as “tragic errors” and “blundering attempts to do good,” when the facts (always suppressed or ignored) show that that was the furthest thing from the motivation of the war planners and others. Imperialism has always been, and always will be, evil in its motivation. It is all about conquering, plundering, and exterminating distant peoples for the benefit of the imperial capital and the “settlers.” Academics such as Ian Morris argue that those evil activities have made the world safer and more prosperous, as Morris cheers on the empire from his cushy berth. What an argument to make, and what a prescription for the future (shudder). There is a different path to take, but time is short.

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    Hi:

    Before I write the Wikipedia article on Noam and Ed’s first books that weren’t censored, I’ll be revising Ed’s bio a little, especially the chapter on those books. I expect that I will be spending this summer’s “spare” time on those tasks, as I write Ed’s bio at Wikipedia, to replace the hack version, and then the battles will likely begin. I spent time today beefing up Ed’s quotes, for his and Noam’s writings on Cambodia and the propaganda system. I have less than 100 pages left of my reread of their 750-page version of their originally censored work, and I then will get to some serious writing.

    One aspect of this task that is very pleasant, so to speak, is digesting the work of two brilliant scholars of high compassion and integrity, as they discuss issues of great import that have only received the propaganda treatment in the American media. Noam has been the world’s leading intellectual for the past 50 years for good reason, and Ed was no slouch. Their work invites deep thinking, in great contrast to the comic book version that the media presents, which on the subject of Cambodia was eerily similar to Orwell’s Two Minutes Hate. Comparing their work to what the hacks said their work was about is like exploring two different worlds.

    It is like when I would read media articles about us, which were a series of lies and misdirections so great that if I didn’t know who they were writing about, I would have had no idea who they were writing about. Dennis is the greatest human being that I ever met, and the media invariably portrayed him as the criminal of the century. Noam and Ed were similarly attacked. That is how the saints fare in our insane world.

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    Hi:

    After the Cataclysm has been posted to the Internet (and the link was recently erased from the Wikipedia article, hmmm, I’ll have to look into that when I write the article), and I am sure that Ed would not have minded, and I am sure that Noam doesn’t. I am almost finished with the reread, and then will be updating Ed’s bio and writing that Wikipedia article. I want to briefly cover some aspects of that book that are ignored by its assailants.

    Back in Ed’s earliest political writings, about Vietnam, he noted the canard of the USA’s trying to prevent a communist bloodbath. The USA slaughtered millions to “save” millions. Strange logic. It was an entirely false rationale, but all imperial rationales are false, and knowingly false by the people concocting them. Every crime has some flowery justification invoked by the perpetrators. If anything can be called human nature, that is it, as humans can justify anything, even eating their children.

    So, no communist bloodbath happened in Vietnam, but one happened in Cambodia. Ed and Noam discussed an aspect of what happened in Cambodia that has always been ignored in imperial apologetics, which was not only how the bombing of Cambodia, especially at its climax in 1973, brought the marginal Khmer Rouge into power, but it also created the brutal conditions among Cambodia’s peasantry to incite what became a genocidal bloodbath, mainly of Cambodia’s city dwellers, who were primarily the colonial elite. Noam and Ed discussed an idea raised by others, that Nixon and Kissinger intentionally inflicted a firestorm of bombing to create exactly what happened. A communist bloodbath was not going to happen in Vietnam, as Nixon constantly invoked, but if they bombed Cambodia to dust, then maybe they could make their prophesized bloodbath happen in Cambodia, and it worked, so the imperial class could retroactively justify their immense crimes. It also had the virtue of preventing a good example of socialism that might have inspired the peasants of other American client regimes, such as in Thailand, to overthrow their brutal rulers.

    Of course, the actual murders by the Khmer Rouge were far less than the propagandists stated (far more were the responsibility of the USA’s epic bombing), although they were plenty. However, as a proportion of the population, the simultaneous one in East Timor, inflicted by Indonesia, with American weapons and diplomatic support, was greater, the greatest since World War II, was completely blacked out in the USA, while what happened in Cambodia was covered by the American media with a constant drumbeat of genocide, and that was the entire point of Noam and Ed’s book: how the media enables imperial behavior. Their writings in The Political Economy of Human Rights matured into Manufacturing Consent a decade later, which was their most famous work, both jointly and individually, and Ed was the primary author. Ed developed the Propaganda Model and wrote the chapters before the Indochina wars, and Noam wrote the Indochina chapters.

    Ed and Noam also wrote at length, particularly in Manufacturing Consent, that after the murderous Khmer Rouge were overthrown by a Vietnamese invasion, the USA supported Pol Pot for the next dozen years because he was an enemy of Vietnam, as he terrorized Cambodia. It would be as if Hitler’s genocide of the Jews was retroactively used to justify the American invasion of Europe, but Hitler fled to South America and was supported in style by the USA ever since, because he still had political-economic utility for killing Jews. It was Orwell to the extreme and continues to this day, with the absolutely insane attacks on Noam and Ed for their Cambodian writings, among other hack activities.

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    Hi:

    A pal recently hung out with Greer, and heard a little news….

    The GCs have decided to allow free energy technology to be developed for small applications, such as to power a house or car, but they won’t allow antigravity (or electrogravity). I have always argued that if they let any of it out, it will set up the conditions for all of it to come out. If any free energy technology makes it to the public, the Fifth Epoch will begin and the days of the elites are numbered, and they must know that.

    I have stated repeatedly that my friend’s underground technology show happened several years before I saw Greer’s Disclosure Project witnesses discussing those technologies, and that their testimonies gave Greer’s effort credibility with me. When my friend was shown anti/electro-gravity, it was a person who began floating. Greer has described that “floating” technology as something like a fanny pack worn around the waist, which allows the wearer to float. So, once again, he confirmed what my friend saw.

    Those are my “fun facts” for today.

    These revelations don’t really impact my efforts. I would keep doing what I am even if free energy was announced tomorrow. The comprehensive perspective that my work attempts to help my readers attain will be more relevant than ever, if free energy is announced.

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    Hi:

    The end of After the Cataclysm presents Noam and Ed’s position quite clearly. They write:


    “…how should one evaluate the programs and character of the countries that have been liberated from Western domination, or respond to developments there? Our primary concern has been U.S. global policy and propaganda, and the filtering and distorting effect of Western ideology, not the problems of reconstruction and modernization in societies that have been victimized by Western imperialism. Correspondingly, we have not developed or expressed our views here on the nature of the Indochinese regimes. To assess the contemporary situation in Indochina and the programs of the current ruling groups is a worthwhile endeavor, but it has not been our current objective.

    “As for appropriate response, its central component in the current situation should be a committed and very substantial effort to help the victims, insofar as this is possible: those who are oppressed, those who have fled, those who are seeking to reconstruct some kind of viable existence from the wreckage. Such response is not to be discerned among the dominant classes and states of either East or West.

    “There is no single cause for the misery and oppression that we find in every part of the world. But there are some major causes, and some of these are close at hand and subject to our influence and, ultimately, our control. These factors and the social matrix in which they are embedded will engage the concern and efforts of people who are honestly committed to alleviate human suffering and to contribute to freedom and justice.

    “The success of the Free Press in reconstructing imperial ideology since the U.S. withdrawal has been spectacular. The shift of the United States from causal agent to bystander – and even to leader of the struggle for human rights – in the face of its empire of client fascism and long, vicious assault on the peasant societies of Indochina, is a remarkable achievement. The system of brainwashing under freedom, with mass media voluntary self-censorship in accord with the larger interests of the state, has worked brilliantly. The new propaganda line has been established by endless repetition of the Big Distortions and negligible grant of access to non-establishment points of view; all rendered more effective by the illusion of equal access and the free flow of ideas. U.S. dissenters can produce their Samizdats freely, and stay out of jail, but they do not reach the general public or the Free Press except on an episodic basis. This reflects the power and interests that benefit from the uncontrolled arms race, the status quo of domestic economic arrangements, and the external system of multinational expansion and collaboration with the Shahs, Suhartos, Marcos’s, in the contemporary “development” and sacking of the Third World. Change will come only when material facts arouse sufficient numbers to force a reassessment of policy. At the present time, the machine expands, the mass media adapt to the political economy, and human rights are set aside except in rhetorical flourishes useful for ideological construction.”


    What an honor to carry their spears. 31 years after publishing After the Cataclysm, nothing had changed. For Ed and David Peterson’s The Politics of Genocide, I am going to put a label on one of their tables, on page 35, which I will call the “Herman-Peterson Genocide Reporting Ratio,” or HPGRR. The ratio is derived by the number of deaths in events such as Albanians dying in Kosovo, Hutu refugees in the Democratic Republic of the Congo (DRC) being slaughtered by (U.S.-supported) invaders from Rwanda and Uganda, Iraqis dying in the USA’s two assaults (the sanctions, followed by the invasion), divided by American media mention of the word “genocide” in relation to those deaths. It is more spectacular evidence of the disparity in media coverage, depending on the political-economic utility of the deaths. So, the Iraq sanctions regime caused 10,000 deaths for each instance of the American press’s calling it genocide. For the violent deaths since the USA invaded Iraq, the ratio was 77,000 deaths for each description of it as “genocide.” Those were Constructive Genocides that killed about two million people, by conservative estimate.

    The deaths of Kosovo Albanians, about 4,000 in all, were called “genocide” once for each 12 deaths, and although the Serbs were responsible for maybe half of them, they were the bad guys in this Nefarious Genocide, which was not really a genocide at all. The media’s use of “genocide” for the Albanian deaths was 323 times versus 93 times for the Iraqi deaths (inflicted by the USA). The media’s reporting disparity was 77,000 divided by 12, or the USA’s media gave the Albanian deaths more than 6,000 times the “genocidal” attention over the Iraqi deaths. This dwarfs Ed and Noam’s findings in Manufacturing Consent, on worthy and unworthy victims, which “only” had a disparity of less than 200.

    The most spectacular was the HPGRR for Paul Kagame’s force’s slaughters in the DRC, after Kagame finished conquering Rwanda. More than 5 million deaths were called “genocide” a grand total of 17 times in the media, for a HPGRR of 317,000, for that benign genocide. So, the media considered an Albanian death in Kosovo to be worth the appellation “genocide” more than 25,000 times that of a Hutu refugee death in the DRC. How can you even describe that, other than that is what Fox News calls “fair and balanced”? Could Orwell have even fathomed what we are seeing today?

    And all that Ed got for pointing out that disparity were irrational tirades from people such as Kagame’s leading apologist, Gerald Caplan.

    And Ed and Noam are Khmer Rouge apologists, of course. It can be mind-boggling to read the crystal clear work of Noam and Ed, and their great hearts were always in evidence, to then see the insane and libelous attacks on them from the imperial hacks, which Ed and Noam’s propaganda model predicted.

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    Hi guys:

    Just want to drop for a bit.

    Just went through a death of a loved one so I am quite sad, but also knowing that he is in a way better place than the current one we reside in right now. It's one of my nephews who died young (16 yrs old) due to one of rare cases of possible stage 4 lymphoma which already spread throughout his body and it's too late. The doctors of the best hospital in town conferred with the best hospitals of the country to discuss his case when he was operated on his heart a week ago, just a few hours before he died. Just got back from the burial.

    It's the first time I saw my loved ones cry... at least some of them. The first time I saw my 77 year old father cried. We all loved that kid. I cried myself when I heard the news back on June 6 but no longer after that. I am supposed to go back to the hospital to visit my nephew after the operation but was advised by my mom to go home first since he was still not out of the operating room. Well, I just slept around 1 pm since I work on a night shift and at 4 pm was awakened by a call from my sister that my nephew did not make it. My nephew was in hospital for more than a week before that. Was diagnosed with tonsillitis at first and then his fever did not went away... then went to another doctor and that doctor said that he got appendicitis... then finally went to my brother-in-law's physician and the X-rays found water drowning my nephew's lungs and it has to be drained out of his body. That's when the hospitalization started. Diagnosis was tuberculosis. A rare case of it. Then it went downhill from there when water was found on his heart and the waters did not fully drained from the lungs. After numerous tests; ultrasound and X-rays... it was found that he has a large tumor that already stretched his heart... and then my nephew went through cardiac arrest after operation when the nurses mentioned that he suddenly got up on his bed after operation and then fainted. And that's it. He was 16 yrs old. A very kind kid. A potential to be somebody in the IT industry after college.

    Thanks for the condolences in advance.

    Just got home after the burial and we are damn tired. Everybody except me, probably, is asleep at home now at 8:30 pm. Not sure of others in neighboring houses. We are living in a single compound here. We all ate at a good restaurant before going home as well so that kinda contributed. But I am so used to little sleep now that here I am, still standing.

    A lot happened since my last post here, I kid you not. And I did went silent.

    I guess we just have our own pace of evolving into this thing called "Wade's World". I did have my own that I just silently lurked here for a year before joining the forum in 2015. (Is it already that long ago...? Wow) And got some real-life commitments and distractions while I simply read here once a while and liking great posts by anybody posting.

    Not sure if I can make another set of big posts like I did in the past, telling of my experiences and all of what I've learned getting here.

    Not sure what to make of your "revelation", Wade. Is it that something that may lead to a great blunder that will lead to further exploration on free energy technology that may lead to an entire revolutionary transition to the Fifth Epoch? Who knows but I may like that road to world emancipation.... though that may look like an easy way out of this mess.

    Hopeful though that if that thing happens; there will be enough people that will show that include the needles in haystack that you are looking for, Wade. These people will lead the way, man.

    That's all for now... See you around.

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    Hi Serg:

    Sorry to hear of your loss. Yes, your nephew is doing fine, and he had his reasons for leaving this world. In this world, everybody lives to a hundred and more, and it is one of the stars that I steer by. No more dying young, no more living in scarcity, misery, and fear, etc.

    I hear you that free energy and the Fifth Epoch may seem to be the easy way out, but the masses have never helped a new Epoch come into being. It was always a relative handful, and even a literal handful sometimes. Only the rise of industrialization ended chattel slavery as a hallowed institution. And what did that first industrialized nation do? It used its advantage to enslave the world in a new way, and virtually everybody in England played along. The imperial ideology of England is alive and well today, as the USA plays imperial overlord, with the ideological summersaults that people such as Ed and Noam wrote about so astutely.

    IMO, the point of being a sentient species is to raise our awareness, and each one of us reaps what we sow, and I will wax mystically for a moment. In The Aquarian Gospel, Jesus healed somebody, a blind man, as I recall, and his followers said that the man’s blindness reflected karma, as he paid his soul’s debts, and Jesus was removing the man’s karma. Jesus replied that nobody could pay another’s karma, but that healing the man made him more capable of meeting his karma.

    One of the most common objections to free energy and the Fifth Epoch is that life is supposed to be hard and full of tears, so free energy and abundance is wrecking “God’s plan” for humanity. That is just an addiction to scarcity talking, IMO. The same pointing to “God” to justify human misery was used by antebellum southerners to justify slavery, clear until the Civil War. To me, all that it means is that people have always been creatures of their Epochs, unable and unwilling to see beyond them, as their immediate self-interest formed the horizon of their egocentric awareness. Just as Fourth Epoch people could afford to have a conscience as far as slavery was concerned, in the Fifth Epoch, people will easily see the evils of imperial ideology, in all of its guises, capitalism, nationalism, race, and other aspects of our world will cease to have meaning, Fourth Epoch practices will be looked back on in horror, and people will marvel at how primitive this Epoch was, as its denizens reveled in how “advanced” they were.

    People are addicted to their survival mechanisms in a world of scarcity, and won’t wake up until scarcity ends, and only free energy can do that. It was like that for all Epochal Events, and I don’t see any reason why it would be different this time, even though we have shows such as Star Trek to give us hints.

    We don’t do free energy, and a very dark night awaits, one that our species may not survive.

    Hang in there,

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    Hi:

    A pal recently hung out with Greer, and heard a little news….

    The GCs have decided to allow free energy technology to be developed for small applications, such as to power a house or car, but they won’t allow antigravity (or electrogravity). I have always argued that if they let any of it out, it will set up the conditions for all of it to come out. If any free energy technology makes it to the public, the Fifth Epoch will begin and the days of the elites are numbered, and they must know that.
    I'm seeing alternative physics leak out in various, presently still quite fringe, forms (Miles Mathis, Robert Distinti, Geometric Algebra, ...) and fast breeder nuclear power plant development by Russia, France, India, China, Japan and others which recycle the spent fuel rods from conventional nuclear power plants, ... all of which suggests to me that mainstream physics will be overhauled in coming decades, and that the dominant energy source for our civilization will shift from petro and coal, to nuclear.

    If the US manages not to Fukushima itself with all its stockpiles of spent fuel rods in coming years, we Americans will find that we have enough fuel for decades of abundant, low cost, but still centrally controlled and generated power. The "Petro-Dollar" and the Rockefeller dynasty that grew so wealthy, in good part from petroleum, over the last century, will (are already) taking serious hits. But I don't expect that the most powerful on this planet will lose their power; rather just once again shift the monetary and energy technologies at the core of implementing their power.

    Perhaps the "free energy" power sources would be like the petro powered engines in our cars and lawn mowers now ... using "new physics", but still relying primarily on big companies to develop, manufacture and control (by such means as trade secrets and patents) the technology.

    I figure that the days of the petro-elite (such as the Rockefellers and their Kissinger, Bush, Clinton, Saudi, ... minions) are numbered. But I doubt that the power of the ones that they answer to is threatened.
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