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    Your envisioned scenario would be wonderful, Ba-ba-Ra, and I would dearly love to see the true Obama birth certificate info also be officially investigated and made public. What a furor they would all create!
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    My hope is that a good percentage of them will "wake up" if and when the Awan Bros. scandal and the Uranium One scandal ever come to light.

    listening to the above video, one gets the understanding of how Trump is dealing with Putin. And oncd Trump truly gets Putin in his corner, then Putin can expose the Uranium One details, which will put HRC & many others on trial as traitors. Will it go that far? Once a string gets pulled, who knows how it will unravel.

    Again, I believe (hope) that the connection of the Awans to the DNC will wake many "deep sleepers" up, or at least get them to stir in their sleep. Then the Uranium One scandal will be the final alarm clock.

    Yes, first they will react in denial, then shock, then anger, but those of us who have been awake for some time will help guide them in the right direction.
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    If you were really paying attention, onawah, to what was taking place on the other side of the political spectrum, you would have already known...

    The Obama certificate has already been officially investigated... by Sheriff Joe Arpaio & his posse led by Mike Zullo.

    It was only prevented from being made public by the MSM. There's been a media blackout on it. The news of it has been confined to the State of Arizona. And, Joe Arpaio had been since then targeted by the Deep State cabal globalists, which caused him to lose his being re-elected.

    This is why one of Trump's first pardons was given to Sheriff Joe Arpaio. Joe came out early in support of Trump's run for president. Its the first time he's ever supported a candidate for president. Trump is on the same side of the coin as Joe when it comes to Obama's birth certificate.

    Btw, if you don't mind, please keep your negative Trump posts to one of the other anti-Trump threads.

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    EU President Donald Tusk Worries About “New World Order” Being Dismantled – The Peasants are Revolting…

    Posted on June 10, 2018 by sundance

    European Union President Donald Tusk worries about the Bush-Clinton-Bush-Obama legacy being dismantled: “What worries me most is the fact that the rules-based international order is being challenged, quite surprisingly, not by the usual suspects, but by its main architect and guarantor: the US.”

    Every parasite needs a host. As soon as the host refuses to remain co-dependent to its own demise, the abusers begin to panic.
    “It must be always be remembered; there is nothing more difficult to plan, more doubtful of success, nor more dangerous to manage than a new system. For the initiator has the enmity of all who would profit by the preservation of the old institution and merely lukewarm defenders in those who gain by the new ones. ”
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    Trump Top Advisors Lash Out At "Double-Crossing" Trudeau: "Special Place In Hell" For Him



    "I am sorry, that’s a betrayal. That’s a double cross.... he stabbed us in the back... there is a special place in hell"for any leader who engages in bad faith diplomacy with President Trump..."
    • JUN 10, 2018 10:16 AM

    The Geostrategy That Guides Trump's Foreign Policies



    "In any aristocracy, some members need to make compromises with other members, no matter how united they all are against the publics’ interests. This is the way it’s done..."
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    Fair Trade is now to be called Fool Trade if it is not Reciprocal. According to a Canada release, they make almost 100 Billion Dollars in Trade with U.S. (guess they were bragging and got caught!). Minimum is 17B. Tax Dairy from us at 270%. Then Justin acts hurt when called out!
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    Why should I, as President of the United States, allow countries to continue to make Massive Trade Surpluses, as they have for decades, while our Farmers, Workers & Taxpayers have such a big and unfair price to pay? Not fair to the PEOPLE of America! $800 Billion Trade Deficit...
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    ....And add to that the fact that the U.S. pays close to the entire cost of NATO-protecting many of these same countries that rip us off on Trade (they pay only a fraction of the cost-and laugh!). The European Union had a $151 Billion Surplus-should pay much more for Military!
    6:29 PM - 10 Jun 2018
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    ....Germany pays 1% (slowly) of GDP towards NATO, while we pay 4% of a MUCH larger GDP. Does anybody believe that makes sense? We protect Europe (which is good) at great financial loss, and then get unfairly clobbered on Trade. Change is coming!
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    Great to be in Singapore, excitement in the air!
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    Sorry, we cannot let our friends, or enemies, take advantage of us on Trade anymore. We must put the American worker first!
    7:41 PM - 10 Jun 2018

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    Quote Posted by turiya (here)
    One for the books...
    It has long been a tradition in royal courts that you stand in the presence of the sovereign, and only the sovereign is allowed to sit. I don't know what Merkel thought she was doing by helping spread these pictures but the symbolism and body language clearly show that Trump is the center of attention and in control of negotiations, not to mention that Japan is behind us (and now Italy).


    Quote Posted by Foxie Loxie (here)
    TRANSPARENCY.....that is a real shock to the senses after what we have been programmed to become used to! It is SO refreshing!!
    It is, and it looks like a lot of people can't believe that a leader could actually represent his constituency in good faith in the year 2018.

    I read the comments sections of French and German news websites, and they are constantly remarking on the fact that he is actually doing what he said he was going to do during the campaign. I guess they were blasting Trump's controversial campaign promises in European media, and now these people are shocked to see him actually doing these things. It really shines a light on how disconnected things have become, that such a thing should be surprising at all.

    The other thing I notice about the French in particular is that they are very keen on the fact, and understand completely, that Trump doesn't represent the whole world. He only represents the United States. They often mention this while making snarky comments about Germany and how it has been imposing its will on the rest of Europe through the EU.


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    Every parasite needs a host. As soon as the host refuses to remain co-dependent to its own demise, the abusers begin to panic.

    To be clear about it, the "USA BANK" above really represents the hard work of the American people, particularly the middle class. It's the middle class's hard-earned pay checks which are going to BMWs and Chinese iPhones, and being deposited overseas, without any equivalent US imports going back into their own countries to even things out. That's what the trade deficit really represents: a net one-way flow of hundreds of billions of dollars out of the country every single year, from the US middle class's wallets into foreign bank accounts.

    That shrinks our domestic cash supply, and a shortage of cash in circulation is what caused hardship for the middle class during the Great Depression, so it's not a trivial issue to be sucking so much cash out of our country every year.

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    Once again, Turiya it's tit for tat.
    You posted a few times on the "Trump is not the Answer" thread, and so it's only fair play that I return the favor.
    And I have been paying attention, which you would know if you had been paying attention, because I have posted (favorably) quite a lot about Arpaio and Zullo's efforts right here on Avalon.
    (You apparently have no idea what I have been paying attention to or where I stand, so maybe you shouldn't be so presumptuous.
    It's actually possible for someone not to take political sides, believe it or not, but to be happy about the good things Trump is doing, as well as critical of the bad things he's doing, as I am.
    I was quite aware of what side Trump is on in this matter, and it's one of the things he has been doing that I am naturally quite happy about.
    If he will follow through with his anti-vaccine stance to the extent that is necessary to really change that disaster, I will be ecstatic.)
    But obviously the state birther investigation that has taken place so far hasn't done the job, with or without Trump's support.
    When it does, I imagine the MSM will have no choice but to cover it.
    If you know anything about what the next steps would have to be to accomplish that, and if any of them are being taken, please do share, if you haven't already.

    Quote Posted by turiya (here)
    If you were really paying attention, onawah, to what was taking place on the other side of the political spectrum, you would have already known...

    The Obama certificate has already been officially investigated... by Sheriff Joe Arpaio & his posse led by Mike Zullo.

    It was only prevented from being made public by the MSM. There's been a media blackout on it. The news of it has been confined to the State of Arizona. And, Joe Arpaio had been since then targeted by the Deep State cabal globalists, which caused him to lose his being re-elected.

    This is why one of Trump's first pardons was given to Sheriff Joe Arpaio. Joe came out early in support of Trump's run for president. Its the first time he's ever supported a candidate for president. Trump is on the same side of the coin as Joe when it comes to Obama's birth certificate.

    Btw, if you don't mind, please keep your negative Trump posts to one of the other anti-Trump threads.

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    The leftist environmentalism stuff is just as much of a fraud as everything else they push. Political environmentalism has nothing to do with saving the environment and everything to do with regulating industries and economies. Scott Pruitt has been gutting the EPA's leftist slush funds and that's why globalist power brokers are so livid with him.

    Quote The EPA Stashes BILLIONS In Slush Fund-Like Accounts

    Environmental Protection Agency (EPA) officials have accumulated at least $6.3 billion in more than 1,300 obscure spending accounts akin to slush funds that are essentially beyond congressional, media and public scrutiny.

    The accounts – which were created through EPA’s Superfund program – are not technically secret because the agency officially acknowledges their existence. But getting concrete details about deposits and expenditures is extremely difficult.

    The EPA deposited more than $6.3 billion into an estimated 1,308 special accounts between 1990 and 2015, according to the agency’s website, and has spent more than half of the total. The agency doesn’t publicly report individual special account balances or expenses.

    The “special accounts” are financed by legal settlements between the agency and parties responsible for polluting Superfund sites. Funds are deposited and spent without prior congressional approval.
    http://dailycaller.com/2016/04/29/th...like-accounts/


    This is why they're frothing at the mouth at Pruitt. Anyone who just had $6.3 billion of political slush funds cut off is bound to be unhappy about it.

    And as always I take anything the media reports with a cup full of salt. More like believe the opposite of what they are trying to tell you and it's usually more accurate.

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    You seem to be assuming that all environmental groups are leftist or in league with the MSM and the Deep State.
    If it weren't for such non-profits as The Environmental Working Group, we would know so much less about what corporations have been doing that is destroying our health and our planet.
    The EWG is a non-profit, and that report was from them, not from any mainstream media source.
    Did you even read it? It doesn't appear that you did
    They have been doing great work for quite some time.
    One thing they do is investigate the toxic chemicals in cosmetics and household cleaning agents, etc. and let the public know which have been tested (many haven't) and which are known to contain toxic chemicals, and what harmful things those chemicals do.
    Is that a leftist agenda?
    Is investigating the damage that vaccines do a leftist agenda?
    It's mainly non-profits who have been investigating that terrifying issue and keeping us informed.
    Not to mention the damage that oil companies do, that coal mines do, that EMFs do, that 5G is starting to do.
    It's mind boggling to me that anyone would just glibly throw anything that comes from non-profits indiscriminately into one big negative category, which is a trend I've been seeing on Avalon, and which makes me want to puke.
    Painting organizations that have been dedicated to protecting our health and our environment (which we know the Deep State cares nothing about) many of them depending on unpaid volunteers who do what they do because they care, as being fraudulent and controlled by the Deep State.
    Or that anything coming from a leftist point of view is automatically evil, which is just as ridiculous as the view that anything from the right is automatically evil.
    That is not critical thinking and it's just plain stupid.
    Jon Rappaport is right when he says that people are losing the ability to think logically.
    I really hate seeing such division happening on the forum.
    I wish Avalon was more above this kind of political B.S.
    I think it used to be, and it makes me sad to see the decline.


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    The leftist environmentalism stuff is just as much of a fraud as everything else they push. Political environmentalism has nothing to do with saving the environment and everything to do with regulating industries and economies. Scott Pruitt has been gutting the EPA's leftist slush funds and that's why globalist power brokers are so livid with him.

    This is why they're frothing at the mouth at Pruitt. Anyone who just had $6.3 billion of political slush funds cut off is bound to be unhappy about it.

    And as always I take anything the media reports with a cup full of salt. More like believe the opposite of what they are trying to tell you and it's usually more accurate.
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    I don't know what paper you're talking about, but I follow environmental issues to the extent that the Mountain Valley Pipeline is being built in my region and property owners are facing eminent domain issues. I read the papers environmentalists distribute on these things and the papers seem to be following a group mentality common to most environmentalists I come across, just as most any other organized group of people do in life. It's the same talking points: global warming (fake), exaggerated risks of catastrophic failures (rare), and a general rage toward everything Trump.

    There are real environmental issues in the energy industry, like the dumping of coal ash, but it seems to me that those usually get pushed to the back burner in order to give more attention to politically useful items, where more moneyed interests are involved. The dumping of coal ash here is generally handled by state governments that impose fines upon companies for violating state laws. The federal government doesn't even get involved, and it's better that way.

    If we take this one example in my area, that I'm more familiar with, we're talking about building a new pipeline ultimately to increase US energy production. If we didn't build it here, we would have to pay another country to produce the energy, and they would undoubtedly make a much bigger mess of the environment in producing this energy than the US does. The US produces much cleaner energy with much less environmental impact than China, Russia, or Saudi Arabia, all of whom don't give a single damn about what they do to their environment. So by pushing this production out of the US they are actually hurting the world, because the market demand is going to exist no matter where the energy is produced. They're also hurting the US economy, but that is the real agenda with trying to stifle US energy production: other interests don't want US dominance in this area.

    For what it's worth, oyster mushrooms were discovered to have the ability to remove oil from the soil in case of spills. So our technology is improving even in handling the rare event of disaster, which we all want to avoid, just not at the expense of living without electricity or in poverty trying to pay the light bills.

    The eminent domain issue is the biggest one to me, and I find it interesting that leftists are champions of private property all of a sudden when it comes to preventing a pipeline from being built, but in all other cases they're talking about Marxist ideas which have absolutely no respect for private property rights. So the state can seize your land to do whatever it wants in a Marxist environment, except if you cut down a tree and take away a squirrel's home, in which case we must respect the rights of the property owner in order to protect the squirrel, whose tree I suppose is more valuable than human beings or our ability to provide energy for our homes and industries. I have to live here too and I think it's ridiculous that so much resistance is going up against one more pipeline when they already exist all over the country and very rarely do you ever hear of any problems with them.

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    Oyster Mushrooms...Did not know that, Voice! Thanks for your "local insight"!

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    Quote Posted by Foxie Loxie (here)
    Oyster Mushrooms...Did not know that, Voice! Thanks for your "local insight"!
    Mushrooms, in general, are quite amazing creatures. Paul Stamets is your 'go to' guy when it comes to anything mushroom. Paul Stamets in 2013 has tried to convince the Japanese government on how to take care of their Fukushima radiation problem.
    Using Fungi to Remediate Radiation at Fukushima
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    Quote You apparently have no idea what I have been paying attention to or where I stand.
    Yes, I do.

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    [QUOTE=turiya;1228599]
    One for the books...

    Poor Justin looks like he is waiting for Trump to give him his soy based juice box and permission to go play in the sand box, so the "adults can talk about grown up stuff".

    Anyway seriously, Bombards Body Language has had her account terminated from Youtube for speaking the truth.

    So from her website here is her take on that particular photo:

    Link: https://bombardsbodylanguage.com/201...s-and-trudeau/
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    I wasn't referring to any paper, I was referring to the article I posted here: https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1228660 from the Environmental Working Group, about all the chemicals which are going to continue to poison us thanks to Pruitt. I follow environmental issues to a planetary extent and which will affect generations to come, if humanity survives, rather than just those that are local currently for me.
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    I don't know what paper you're talking about, but I follow environmental issues to the extent that the Mountain Valley Pipeline is being built in my region and property owners are facing eminent domain issues.
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    Once again, Turiya it's tit for tat.
    You posted a few times on the "Trump is not the Answer" thread, and so it's only fair play that I return the favor.
    Ah... your posts here make so much more sense now.

    Moving along ...

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    Had it been my thread (Autumn started it), I would have entitled it "Trump is Not THE Answer".
    He has been the answer to a lot of immediate problems, and he's certainly a better POTUS than HRC could ever have been, but the huge number of problems that remain unaddressed can never be solved until there is less public division (and nastiness) and the puppet masters are no longer in control. That will take a sea change.
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    For myself Trump is the answer, but I don't disrespect opposing views because all the attacks on Trump have only sharpened & polished him to a fine point. Just as iron sharpens iron,,, Trump is learning and getting better with time but he is still only human and will make mistakes. You can't really place blame at the feet of the current administration for the huge number of problems that have remained unresolved through other administrations. And you have to take into account all the positive things he has done in only 500 days in office. Speaking from a registered independent view point and only want whats best for America and many on the left have not gotten past their own bias to give him a fair chance.

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    Agreed! But many on the right are at fault as well--the Deep State is made up of people from both sides. The Left gained power after the Right did a terrible job, now the roles are reversed. It's going to continue like that until enough people realize that is all part of the Matrix game, keeping things always out of balance.
    Quote Posted by mojo (here)
    Trump is learning and getting better with time but he is still only human and will make mistakes. You can't really place blame at the feet of the current administration for the huge number of problems that have remained unresolved through other administrations.
    And you have to take into account all the positive things he has done in only 500 days in office. Speaking from a registered independent view point and only want whats best for America and many on the left have not gotten past their own bias to give him a fair chance.
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    I don't remember anyone saying that Trump is THE answer???

    He's a part of our answer. We voted him into office for a reason.

    And so far, he appears to me to be following through on his promises made during the campaign.

    But the answer has always been US, We The People.

    This may be why I am confused with the antagonistic attitude that pops up from time to time.

    Granted, I don't read most of the other threads. So, I'm not aware of what happens in them.

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    See these great posts from Bruno, Helen, Amor and Michelle Marie here : https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1228883

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    Quote Posted by Helene West (here)
    What will help us is bridging the divide between right and left.

    Many on the lib side are young, too young to remember the '80s. From the '80s until the Patriot Act the darlings of the deep state was the Right. I remember it well. They are too young to realize that the government goes back and forth giving preferential treatment as it suits them at the moment. Now the du jour darlings are the Left. Tomorrow?

    Trump is the fiddle that Nero was playing as Rome burned.
    Doesn't matter if you're right or left. If you're right then you cheer on his supposed good things he's doing. If you're left you're sufficiently filled with hate that you cheer the surveillance/censorship because you are deluded in thinking it will only be used against the right. Either way focus is on trump while america goes down into tyranny.

    Ostensibly it seems the 'deep state' is down on alt and right everything. But ultimately they don't want anyone who has influence even on the left from having an impact. it may be a ways down the road before they turn on the left but they will. Ultimately we are to get marching orders from only 'official' sources.

    An olive branch between right and left is the way out, it's the great fear of the ruling class. We have so much more in common than we don't but I see no one, nothing on the horizon to facilitate this.

    Damn Helen! You hit the nail on the head!
    Maybe the olive branch that unites will be the truth that is the same for all.

    Such as:
    * Health issues (GMOs, pharmaceuticals/vaccines, smart meters, 5G)
    * Privacy issues
    * Transhumanism issues

    Quote Posted by amor (here)
    As I said on another post, keep the Truth coming and it will work like SALT on a SLUG!
    Yeah, like SALT on a SLUG! LOL

    My view is that it's not Right vs. Left,
    But rather,
    Right vs. Wrong

    The olive branch is caring for everyone with no divisions.

    MM
    Each breath a gift...
    _____________

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