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    Quote Posted by RunningDeer (here)
    Last Saturday, my sister and I met at a restaurant. She wanted to know where I stood with ”That misogynistic, pedophile Trump.” My response was ”Based on your comment, I’ll pass.” And suggested we move on to another topic. She went ballistic. What made it worst is that it was peak lunch hour.
    Good grief .

    At least my left coast normie liberal family members and I can joke about how crazy we find each others views, and otherwise enjoy each other's company.

    It's obvious, watching Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders field questions from the Press, that at the "official, public" level, the divisions are insane. But I was hoping at the level of ordinary people, the human connection and good humor still prevailed ... most of the time anyway.

    I wonder what percentage of families and former friends, where both "sides" of one or more of the several issues being used to divide us are present, are no longer able to enjoy a lunch together.
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    Quote Posted by RunningDeer (here)
    Last Saturday, my sister and I met at a restaurant. She wanted to know where I stood with ”That misogynistic, pedophile Trump.” My response was ”Based on your comment, I’ll pass.” And suggested we move on to another topic. She went ballistic. What made it worst is that it was peak lunch hour.
    Good grief .

    At least my left coast normie liberal family members and I can joke about how crazy we find each others views, and otherwise enjoy each other's company.

    It's obvious, watching Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders field questions from the Press, that at the "official, public" level, the divisions are insane. But I was hoping at the level of ordinary people, the human connection and good humor still prevailed ... most of the time anyway.

    I wonder what percentage of families and former friends, where both "sides" of one or more of the several issues being used to divide us are present, are no longer able to enjoy a lunch together.
    That was the 3rd and last time. One other we were in a market parking lot when the sister went ballistic. People gathered around. It was my niece that called to her mom (a different sister) when I knew I had to be the bigger person and walk away. Crazy sister got in my face and said, “You with all your degrees, how are you going to get out of this?” When I turned away, I half expected (saw i.e. mind’s eye) and prepared for what happened next. She unsuccessfully tripped me. Hearing the crowd reactions was further confirmation that I did not imagine it.

    Another sister went ballistic with the Trump thing at Thanksgiving and Christmas. I’ve opted out of the holidays. Not because I’m a wimp. I’m finding a ramp up in the uglies with a couple of siblings. Most other family and friends handle the awkwardness by leaving the room.

    I surmise it’s an archonic tag-team interplay. The solution is to disengage. At one level they win (archons). At another, I've come to terms with how I've been blinded by the belief to forgive and forget, when in reality it’s an invitation for unspoken permission to escalate contempt and control. I've made a conscious decision to sever ties from those infected with the virus.
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    Quote Posted by RunningDeer (here)
    Quote Posted by Foxie Loxie (here)
    Great find, Norman, with Amazing Polly!!

    Thanks, Running Dear for the Alice in Wonderland post.....amazing how that is being applied!! Guess the trick is....not to watch any of them!
    I follow more than I care to admit. It’s impossible for me to keep up with it all and have a life off the internet.

    This is part of what I shared with a dear friend:
    Last Saturday, my sister and I met at a restaurant. She wanted to know where I stood with ”That misogynistic, pedophile Trump.” My response was ”Based on your comment, I’ll pass.” And suggested we move on to another topic. She went ballistic. What made it worst is that it was peak lunch hour.

    The waitperson came over to ask if everything was alright. I pulled money from my already opened wallet to pay her on the spot. I left my sister there with my half eaten roast beef sandwich, fries and coffee. I closed out the afternoon with a small bottle of Beringer White Zin and two Advil.
    Wow. I don't think this is off topic, though. It's exactly what is going on, and I'm extremely interested in hearing personal experiences such as yours.

    That sounds very stressful. Wine and Advil were in order!

    And so is a big hug....

    I've had to change topics, too, in social settings lately. I say a few words first about love vs. hate. Hehe

    MM

    ADD: "Sever ties with those affected by the virus." Good idea.
    Recently, I had to ignore/disengage with someone who was antagonistic around issues.
    Why do they insist on drama?

    Not me. Peace or bye-bye.
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    MM, you may want to take the e off of the end of severe to make it sever or "posterity" may misunderstand your true intent.

    I know what you meant but someone else may not.
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    Quote Posted by RunningDeer (here)
    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    Quote Posted by RunningDeer (here)
    Last Saturday, my sister and I met at a restaurant. She wanted to know where I stood with ”That misogynistic, pedophile Trump.” My response was ”Based on your comment, I’ll pass.” And suggested we move on to another topic. She went ballistic. What made it worst is that it was peak lunch hour.
    Good grief .

    At least my left coast normie liberal family members and I can joke about how crazy we find each others views, and otherwise enjoy each other's company.

    It's obvious, watching Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders field questions from the Press, that at the "official, public" level, the divisions are insane. But I was hoping at the level of ordinary people, the human connection and good humor still prevailed ... most of the time anyway.

    I wonder what percentage of families and former friends, where both "sides" of one or more of the several issues being used to divide us are present, are no longer able to enjoy a lunch together.
    That was the 3rd and last time. One other we were in a market parking lot when the sister went ballistic. People gathered around. It was my niece that called to her mom (a different sister) when I knew I had to be the bigger person and walk away. Crazy sister got in my face and said, “You with all your degrees, how are you going to get out of this?” When I turned away, I half expected (saw i.e. mind’s eye) and prepared for what happened next. She unsuccessfully tripped me. Hearing the crowd gasps was further confirmation that I did not imagine it.

    Another sister went ballistic with the Trump thing at Thanksgiving and Christmas. I’ve opted out of the holidays. Not because I’m a wimp. I’m finding a ramp up in the uglies with a couple of siblings. Most other family and friends handle the awkwardness by leaving the room.

    I surmise it’s an archonic tag-team interplay. The solution is to disengage. At one level they win (archons). At another, I've come to terms with how I've been blinded by the belief to forgive and forget, when in reality it’s an invitation for unspoken permission to escalate contempt and control. I've made a conscious decision to sever ties from those infected with the virus.
    Hiya RunningDeer & Paul;

    This is disconcerting and saddening news (and I'm hearing & seeing it all too frequently, even half a world away here in New Zealand).

    I've had to cut ties with many family and friends because of their almost insane hatred of Trump and love of everything Obama. They are not rational; I can't have a simple conversation with them without WW3 breaking out.

    They can NEVER show me the evidence for their outrageous claims or beliefs. I swear to God they are possessed! (As I mentioned before on this thread, it is literally like holding up a cross to a vampire!)

    It's not just the US or UK who are afflicted with this "virus!" It's everywhere!

    They do not want to know & "cannot handle the truth".


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    Quote Posted by Valerie Villars (here)
    MM, you may want to take the e off of the end of severe to make it sever or "posterity" may misunderstand your true intent.

    I know what you meant but someone else may not.
    Thank you. I did that.

    Typos happen! Thank you for catching that. Yes, I was directly referring to what RunningDeer said: "Sever ties."


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    Paula's notation of the Hegelian technique made to separate people, our brothers and sisters drowned in the deep abyss of mental confusion and archonic control, waiting for some imaginary and righteous wind to give Alice's skirt a brisk enough uplift to bring her, and us, back to reality....that is the constant in all controlled political discourses.

    I look into Alice's eyes and tell her I want to go to her restaurant, for I too know that she needs a drink and a couple of valium, as well as enough time in a comfortable place in order to sit down and enjoy a dinner, without anger and ignorance being served up, spoiling everyone's digestion.

    Beyond the power of the responsible soul's reality, in the Ho 'Opono pono's power each of us carry, I value the power of the quiet that has kept me from my very large genetic family, one made up of 5 to 6 times the average number. Meeting, by chance, an old brother in law of mine recently I remarked that I had made no effort to disengage from any of my brothers or sisters. It was that my phone numbers and email address had changed over time.

    I am qualified to remind some out there that we do have the choice to make our family out of whomever we choose. This includes those who are lost in the ozone, again....one drink of wine and one/two drinks of gin....and we find we have no time to judge harshly. We do have time to look into the minds of that beast and understand the discourse it has with it's own demons....

    Remember that those who have never stood up, in one soul's singular voice, carry a lot of guilt for their lack of spinal strength. Maybe we should just concentrate on showing them how we stretch our spines....

    It's good, very good and healthy to be here with you all....
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    Kate Brown--Oregon Governor accepted George Soros money, then refused to send NG troops to border

    April 2018
    SGT Report
    https://www.sgtreport.com/2018/04/or...ard-on-border/

    Oh great...our Oregon governor is bought and paid for by George Soros

    Post 2205662
    https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/2205522.html#2205662
    Thank you to the 8 chan Anon
    Who pointed this out.

    MM

    Looks like the Anons are digging up info on Kate Brown in relation to SerialBrain's observations, too.
    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1236206

    Previously posted by mojo...SerialBrain
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-ws2B4zve24
    Strozyk, Kate, and the Soda

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    Rand Paul: Should Brennan be getting a gov't pension?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUF-WooYYSw
    Published on 18 Jul 2018...Fox...( 4 mins )...
    Senator on war of words between Donald Trump and John Brennan after ex-CIA
    director called the president's press conference with Putin 'treasonous' and U.S.
    obligations to Montenegro. #Tucker FOX
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    Election Meddling or Muddling — Lionel Joins David Knight on Real News

    " No Russia No NATO "



    Published on 18 Jul 2018
    This was a most great exchange.
    #LionelNation🇺🇸

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    Nunes on warning Obama administration about Russia

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss2x_AmVoBY
    Published on 18 Jul 2018...Fox...( 6 mins )...
    Rep. Devin Nunes speaks out on 'Hannity' about how the Obama administration
    handled reports of Russia's attempts to meddle in U.S. elections.
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    Poll: Russia one of the least important issues for Americans

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4AoAHc64KTA
    Published on 18 Jul 2018...RT...( 5 mins )...
    While US congress seems obsessed with alleged Russian meddling, ordinary people
    are more concerned with other internal issues.
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    Quote Posted by RunningDeer (here)
    The solution is to disengage. At one level they win (archons). At another, I've come to terms with how I've been blinded by the belief to forgive and forget, when in reality it’s an invitation for unspoken permission to escalate contempt and control. I've made a conscious decision to sever ties from those infected with the virus.
    I know how difficult, painful and what deep sense of loss there is to be shunned and screamed at by lifelong friends. I have had this
    happen over and over again. The surprising thing is they think they have come to their own conclusions, but they all say the same thing
    usually with the same words. "I hate him. Trump is a racist, hates women and a sociopath". It is clear to me the propaganda is much more severe and widespread than I ever imagined. New World Order/Deep State/Controllers really know what they are doing and frankly I find myself more and more terrified of these ruthless demons. This fear is even greater than the loss of my friends who I see now like possessed people, lost and brainwashed.
    I am sorry for all who have lost loved ones to the terrible conditioning.
    Q info is what I hang on to, to not lose hope.

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    The globalists are desperate to dampen any progress after the Trump Putin
    meeting. The ridiculous frenzy of hysteria witnessed on the mainstream has
    been a mind controlled bonanza , if only they knew how gullible they are.

    Timing : Rosenstein indicting the 12 Russians before Helsinki failed. Trump
    has had to walk back some comments . But now the CIA can rely on MI5/6
    to help them out and it has been announced through the media they may/
    might/highly likely etc ...found the culprits and they are Ruissian but no
    details.....More BS for the gullible.....

    Suspects in Skripal poisoning case believed to be identified
    - Press Association source

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h5yw_pYCl3U
    Published on 19 Jul 2018...RT...( 4 mins )...
    Investigators in the UK believe they have identified a number
    of suspects in the March poisoning of ex-double agent Sergei
    Skripal and his daughter, the Press Association reports, citing
    an unnamed source. READ MORE: https://on.rt.com/9aly

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    Salisbury poisoning: Police 'identify Novichok suspects'
    19/7/18

    read more....https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44883803

    Re: Sergei Skripal: who was behind the Salisbury poisoning?
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    Trump Putin: Russian leader attacks US critics of summit
    19/7/18

    Russian President Vladimir Putin has rounded on US critics of his
    first bilateral summit with President Donald Trump.Certain forces
    in the US wanted to sacrifice US-Russian ties for their "narrow
    party interests", he told a meeting of Russian diplomats in Moscow.

    "They are feeding millions of their people stories," he said.


    Read more...https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-44870835

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    Putin addresses Russian ambassadors and permanent representatives



    Streamed live 2 hours ago....19/7/18...RT....( 18 mins )...
    Russian President Vladimir Putin holds a speech at a meeting with Russian
    ambassadors and permanent representatives in Moscow on Thursday, July 19. Putin
    is expected to discuss Russian diplomacy in the world and its main goals, including
    global security issues such as the fight against terrorism and extremism.
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    The president was tweeting as I posted these....



    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump · 1m1 minute ago


    ....proliferation, cyber attacks, trade, Ukraine, Middle East peace, North Korea and
    more. There are many answers, some easy and some hard, to these problems...
    but they can ALL be solved!
    =================================================

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump · 4m4 minutes ago

    “Trump recognized Russian Meddling MANY TIMES.”
    vid on link...https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?lang=en
    =================================================

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump · 6m6 minutes ago

    The Summit with Russia was a great success, except with the real enemy of the
    people, the Fake News Media. I look forward to our second meeting so that we
    can start implementing some of the many things discussed, including stopping
    terrorism, security for Israel, nuclear........
    =================================================

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump · 13m13 minutes ago

    I told you so! The European Union just slapped a Five Billion Dollar fine on one
    of our great companies, Google. They truly have taken advantage of the U.S.,
    but not for long!
    =================================================

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump · 2h2 hours ago

    Really big jobs meeting today at the White House! 3 P.M.
    =================================================

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump · 2h2 hours ago

    “Trump recognized Russian Meddling MANY TIMES.” Thank you to @foxandfriends
    and @FoxNews for actually showing the clips. The Fake News wants no part of that
    narrative! Too bad they don’t want to focus on all of the ECONOMIC and JOBS
    records being set.
    =================================================

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump · 2h2 hours ago

    The Fake News Media wants so badly to see a major confrontation with Russia,
    even a confrontation that could lead to war. They are pushing so recklessly hard
    and hate the fact that I’ll probably have a good relationship with Putin. We are
    doing MUCH better than any other country!
    =================================================

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump · 3h3 hours ago

    The Fake News Media is going Crazy! They make up stories without any backup, sources
    or proof. Many of the stories written about me, and the good people surrounding me, are
    total fiction. Problem is, when you complain you just give them more publicity. But I’ll
    complain anyway!
    ======================================================

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump · 3h3 hours ago

    The Democrats have a death wish, in more ways than one - they actually want to abolish ICE.
    This should cost them heavily in the Midterms. Yesterday, the Republicans overwhelmingly
    passed a bill supporting ICE!
    ======================================================

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump · 3h3 hours ago

    Thank you to Novartis for not increasing your prices on prescription drugs. Likewise to
    Pfizer. We are making a big push to actually reduce the prices, maybe substantially,
    on prescription drugs.
    ======================================================

    Donald J. Trump‏Verified account @realDonaldTrump · 12h12 hours ago

    A total disgrace that Turkey will not release a respected U.S. Pastor, Andrew Brunson,
    from prison. He has been held hostage far too long. @RT_Erdogan should do something
    to free this wonderful Christian husband & father. He has done nothing wrong, and his
    family needs him!

    https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump?lang=en

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    Huckabee on Russia fallout: Media have become less credible



    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0e-MATDGnM0
    Published on 19 Jul 2018...Fox...( 9 mins )...
    Fox News contributor says the critics of President Trump have become unhinged.
    ====================================================
    ====================================================

    Why did Trump appoint Jeff Sessions as AG?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqVUvsRwGnI
    Published on 19 Jul 2018...Fox...( 8 mins )...
    "Justice with Judge Jeanine" host Jeanine Pirro on the California Supreme Court
    blocking a measure to split the state up into three separate states, a candidate for
    Alaskan Congressional seat that has never been to the state, the Russia collusion
    investigation and concerns of bias at the FBI.
    ====================================================
    ====================================================

    Gingrich: Trump is tougher on Russia than Obama ever dreamed

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elhd_7bgKhE
    Published on 19 Jul 2018...Fox...( 5 mins )..
    Former House speaker says the Helsinki summit was the biggest mistake of
    Trump's presidency.
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    Quote Posted by Antagenet (here)
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    The solution is to disengage. At one level they win (archons). At another, I've come to terms with how I've been blinded by the belief to forgive and forget, when in reality it’s an invitation for unspoken permission to escalate contempt and control. I've made a conscious decision to sever ties from those infected with the virus.
    I know how difficult, painful and what deep sense of loss there is to be shunned and screamed at by lifelong friends. I have had this
    happen over and over again. The surprising thing is they think they have come to their own conclusions, but they all say the same thing
    usually with the same words. "I hate him. Trump is a racist, hates women and a sociopath". It is clear to me the propaganda is much more severe and widespread than I ever imagined. New World Order/Deep State/Controllers really know what they are doing and frankly I find myself more and more terrified of these ruthless demons. This fear is even greater than the loss of my friends who I see now like possessed people, lost and brainwashed.
    I am sorry for all who have lost loved ones to the terrible conditioning.
    Q info is what I hang on to, to not lose hope.
    Its been quite obvious for some time now, that there is something taking place. Its almost as if the world is dividing into two worlds.

    Perhaps, just perhaps, this is actually taking place. That people are being affected by a change in frequency. And its manifesting in emotional expression to something that they don't quite understand. Or, are not quite aware of that is taking place within themselves.

    Its kind of an ascension thing is actually happening. Yeah, I know this kind of thing has been promoted ad nauseam for quite some time now, but maybe, it is possibly taking place - that the world is moving higher up in frequency. And, its confusing for much of the population.

    And because things are changing, many people are finding themselves uncomfortable with it. Because, people, in general, they don't want things to change. They want to cling to things they have known, to the old ways of seeing & doing. And its not in their control. So, they are getting stressed by it. They want somebody to blame for it. And, Trump - a polical leader - is the perfect target to point one's finger at.

    I think its an amazing phenomenon that is taking place.

    Friends always come & they go. Best friends change as one moves through life. There is one brother I have that I don't even want him to know where I live. He's living in a different world of his own. But, things are always changing. But its now at such an increased rate. So, its more of a shock to the general population, than it would normally be.

    And perhaps, many people have already decided that they are not wanting to make the shift along with the Earth. They have already decided that they are going to leave the planet prior to the actual shift is complete.

    Just be aware that things are going to continue, and we'll be entering into more rough waters ahead, before things actually settle down. As a planetary collective, we are in the midst of a period of transition. Some of us alive today may actually still be around when an actual world peace becomes a reality.

    That is my take on what is happening. The division between ideologies is ever deepening. The gap is growing at an ever-increasing rate. There's been a lot of talk about civil war. I don't think there will be civil war in America. But, yes, more than likely, there will be increased conflict all over this planet.

    Things will get worse before they will be getting better, imo. Actually, the two extremes are happening at the same time. Best to focus on the higher end of the spectrum. Pay attention to that. Leave others behind if that is what is necessary to be able to relax into a more peaceful situation. Your former friends & family will find other like-minded people to cajole with.

    ____Late Add______________

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    Some people HATE the fact that I got along well with President Putin of Russia. They would rather go to war than see this. It’s called Trump Derangement Syndrome!

    4:27 AM - 18 Jul 2018
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    Are we thankful for Avalon....or WHAT?!!

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    Last Saturday, my sister and I met at a restaurant. She wanted to know where I stood with ”That misogynistic, pedophile Trump.” My response was ”Based on your comment, I’ll pass.” And suggested we move on to another topic. She went ballistic. What made it worst is that it was peak lunch hour.
    Good grief .

    At least my left coast normie liberal family members and I can joke about how crazy we find each others views, and otherwise enjoy each other's company.

    It's obvious, watching Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders field questions from the Press, that at the "official, public" level, the divisions are insane. But I was hoping at the level of ordinary people, the human connection and good humor still prevailed ... most of the time anyway.

    I wonder what percentage of families and former friends, where both "sides" of one or more of the several issues being used to divide us are present, are no longer able to enjoy a lunch together.
    That was the 3rd and last time. One other we were in a market parking lot when the sister went ballistic. People gathered around. It was my niece that called to her mom (a different sister) when I knew I had to be the bigger person and walk away. Crazy sister got in my face and said, “You with all your degrees, how are you going to get out of this?” When I turned away, I half expected (saw i.e. mind’s eye) and prepared for what happened next. She unsuccessfully tripped me. Hearing the crowd reactions was further confirmation that I did not imagine it.

    Another sister went ballistic with the Trump thing at Thanksgiving and Christmas. I’ve opted out of the holidays. Not because I’m a wimp. I’m finding a ramp up in the uglies with a couple of siblings. Most other family and friends handle the awkwardness by leaving the room.

    I surmise it’s an archonic tag-team interplay. The solution is to disengage. At one level they win (archons). At another, I've come to terms with how I've been blinded by the belief to forgive and forget, when in reality it’s an invitation for unspoken permission to escalate contempt and control. I've made a conscious decision to sever ties from those infected with the virus.
    All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second, it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident.

    Arthur Schopenhauer, German philosopher (1788 – 1860)

    And I hope your siblings will offer apology and reconciliation RunningDeer.
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    The President went on CBS for damage control and counter attack....The anchor
    like virtually all the mainstream outlets wanted Trump to confront Putin on the
    stage totally irrational and silly. Diplomacy is not conducted like that especially
    in a public joint press conference in front of the world. They should all know that
    which makes you wonder what is happening and reinforces 'Trump derangement
    syndrome '.....

    Who President Trump dreams of running against in 2020


    Published on 19 Jul 2018
    In an interview with CBS News, President Trump said he dreams of running
    against Joe Biden in the 2020 presidential race. "CBS Evening News" anchor
    Jeff Glor spoke with Mr. Trump about that and his recent summit with Russian
    President Vladimir Putin.

    ====================================================

    It’s “Pearl Harbor” for Globalists As Summit Hyperboles Escalate

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFfVs1evRyw
    Published on 18 Jul 2018...Info Wars...( 10 mins )...
    For the globalists any detente in their Cold War 2 is “Pearl Harbor”, “Kristallnacht”
    and “9/11” rolled into one. They freaked out when he mocked “Little Rocket Man”
    whose nuke button doesn’t work, but they went hysterical when he didn’t mock
    Putin whose nuke buttons DO work and has half the world’s nuclear bombs. Rand
    Paul owns the establishment trolls.
    ====================================================


    Quote Trump passes up opportunity to call Putin a liar
    ABC spinning the none story to the extreme..."Can we trust this President ?"
    This is ridiculous and media grandstanding. Russia spies , monitors , survey's
    and commented on the US election , just like many other countries. The US
    does exactly the same and has better capabilities through fives eyes and other
    programmes....These anchors/quasi journalists ....'MUST KNOW THIS' so they
    are following the corporate agenda and spinning/lying to the public. Or they are
    just stupid and not researching their jobs.....CIANN, MSNBC are worse and the
    others as bad to various degrees except Fox though they have had some nay sayers...

    ( I know I have said this before but..U'eeerrrrrr !!..put the kettle on.. )


    Trump passes up opportunity to call Putin a liar
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcVw0mLOAZ8

    Published on 19 Jul 2018...ABC...( 7 mins )
    The White House again sought to clarify President Trump's comments on whether
    Russia targeted the U.S., saying the president's "no" was actually a "no" to taking
    reporters' questions
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    "It's gone viral" is a common and accurate term used to define the hypnotic use of mass media to infect as many people as possible with a scenario meant to create an emotional response. The mass media is made of mad men, all commonly addicted to the needle of external control systems, pumping up their veins with the thick, black tar flowing from the entrails of the gods of advertising. I don't buy what they sell.

    It'd be fun to be able to share here the dialogue that my loving friends and I have, but this is a family friendly site so I must refrain, appreciating as much as I do the tolerance that Bill and the Mods have had with my use of some very harsh phrases and the sometimes excesses I have had going off of topic.

    Suffice it to say that the conversation my friend and I had yesterday about the once in a lifetime position the few healers have in the cruel and sometimes gratifying business we are in would, in my friend's words, consider that I was blowing sunshine out of my rear.....Reminding me of how even simple truths, direct honesty and kindness have been surrounded by the trained responses of even kind people, good hearted souls, to find some fault in the truth, as if it's existence needed an existential opposite in order to be real. This, despite the truths told and the detailed solutions being considered and reconsidered and analyzed...a completely thankless task for the very few involved and especially now that I and others look for income in different areas beyond our physical skills.

    For me that is the perfect position, asking for no reward or position and, more to the point, knowing how entrenched the corrupted nature of lazy souls is and how long it would take for those F##ks to change. Me, I'm already gone. Another business here or into another state or country working in a much healthier work environment. Listening to the complaints and the solutions is a duty to the heart of the matter alone.


    I make the challenge of hanging in with those finally waking up like staying with a friend in a serious accident and being there to nurture and tell the unvarnished truths of what happened.

    Getting up and taking them out to get some fresh air, walking on the grass, letting the sun shine in to their eyes. Watching their breath change as it gets deeper and into a more natural rhythm.

    Then, while they are remembering their own vitality and all there is to heal them, things of real value.... I'll go clean up the bathroom and flush the toilet, wash the soiled clothes, later on to remind them that it's their job when they get better.

    And...... I marveled at how I knew my insightful friend, often attacked for his kind and honest ways, his comforting presence, was slowly getting more drunk while we talked and I couldn't even hear him taking drink after drink. Coping mechanisms are many and it is often fruitless to interrupt their indulgence, whatever the drug may be. He has had a lifetime of blessings, what with the constant attacks he has had when the dark-hearted ones took over this profession. He, like I and many others, had to be reminded that the pressure was directing him to another life waiting.....as it cannot find it's life in ours until we let go of the those things we did not create or allow.

    It isn't the hardest thing to face when we realized that we went along with whatever was being sold. It is merely another chance to reaffirm our ability to live when we let it go and look at things with the connection we already have to heal the entirety of our lives. This ability and all of the synchronicity it creates was there with us when we were born.

    When the discourse, as serious as it is, as real to the lives of many as it is, becomes a give and take it will be real. Until then it is often a distraction meant to keep us from ourselves and each other.

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    Quote Posted by turiya (here)
    Quote Posted by Antagenet (here)
    Quote Posted by RunningDeer (here)
    The solution is to disengage. At one level they win (archons). At another, I've come to terms with how I've been blinded by the belief to forgive and forget, when in reality it’s an invitation for unspoken permission to escalate contempt and control. I've made a conscious decision to sever ties from those infected with the virus.
    I know how difficult, painful and what deep sense of loss there is to be shunned and screamed at by lifelong friends. I have had this happen over and over again. The surprising thing is they think they have come to their own conclusions, but they all say the same thing usually with the same words. "I hate him. Trump is a racist, hates women and a sociopath". It is clear to me the propaganda is much more severe and widespread than I ever imagined. New World Order/Deep State/Controllers really know what they are doing and frankly I find myself more and more terrified of these ruthless demons. This fear is even greater than the loss of my friends who I see now like possessed people, lost and brainwashed.
    I am sorry for all who have lost loved ones to the terrible conditioning.
    Q info is what I hang on to, to not lose hope.
    Its been quite obvious for some time now, that there is something taking place. Its almost as if the world is dividing into two worlds.

    Perhaps, just perhaps, this is actually taking place. That people are being affected by a change in frequency. And its manifesting in emotional expression to something that they don't quite understand. Or, are not quite aware of that is taking place within themselves.

    Its kind of an ascension thing is actually happening. Yeah, I know this kind of thing has been promoted ad nauseam for quite some time now, but maybe, it is possibly taking place - that the world is moving higher up in frequency. And, its confusing for much of the population.

    And because things are changing, many people are finding themselves uncomfortable with it. Because, people, in general, they don't want things to change. They want to cling to things they have known, to the old ways of seeing & doing. And its not in their control. So, they are getting stressed by it. They want somebody to blame for it. And, Trump - a polical leader - is the perfect target to point one's finger at.

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    Some people HATE the fact that I got along well with President Putin of Russia. They would rather go to war than see this. It’s called Trump Derangement Syndrome!

    4:27 AM - 18 Jul 2018
    I think you hit the nail on the head when you pointed out the change in frequency.

    As I mention in this post, we each have a frequency that we emit. Think about our current choices: Trump/hate or truth/love. A choice in one or the other determines what the heart radiates, or the radio frequency that we are tuned into.

    You could simplify the statement to: Some people HATE...

    The other side of the coin is: Some people LOVE...

    https://projectavalon.net/forum4/show...=1#post1235788

    Maybe that's over simplified, but to me, it explains the clear division that seems to be occurring.

    Your perspective that people are uncomfortable and take it out on Trump is interesting and valuable. It gives me a sense of understanding and compassion.

    I guess we can do our best to help transmute energies from a distance with Ho'oponopono. (Several threads discuss this.)

    I'm going to attempt to remember to focus on compassion.

    Quote Posted by Hym (here)
    When the discourse, as serious as it is, as real to the lives of many as it is, becomes a give and take it will be real. Until then it is often a distraction meant to keep us from ourselves and each other.
    What a true statement! And realizing that, we can ignore the distraction and really be with ourselves and each other. I don't think I could have the level of peace and calmness that I do if I didn't take time to go within each day. These inner reflections help to sense and create our true unity.

    The Source of LOVE.

    MM

    @BMJ
    Thanks! Good to remember the three stages of truth.
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