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    Quote Posted by mountain_jim (here)

    I don't usually understand a lot of the Q material, the details and research at the Neon link were helpful today.

    https://www.neonrevolt.com/2018/07/2...reatawakening/


    So it appears from the Avenatti tweet that Q referenced this weekend from a few days before the missile firing at AF1 that Avenatti had advance knowledge? (later - no his tweet was after)
    I noted in Post #5890 above that I thought that Neon Revolt got the address (450, should have been 500) wrong of a picture of a man walking on the street, in front of Avenatti's office.

    I think that Neon Revolt got this one wrong too, a bit more significantly wrong.

    Notice what time is marked on each of the following three images. All are marked for 10 June 2018, but their time order matters.
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    I placed the above three images in apparent time order - the missile first at 3:56 AM, Brennan second at 4:47 AM, and Avenatti third, over a half day later, at 8:00 PM. I under or over lined, right on the image, in Rusty Red the times noted on each image.

    However, timezones also matter. Brennan might have been first, if his tweet time of 4:47 AM was east coast US time, which would have been only 1:47 AM west coast US time, two hours before the missile image, or Brennan might have tweeted almost an hour after the missile launch, if that tweet of his was observed using west coast US time.

    The missile image at 3:56 AM is surely west coast US time, and Avenatti's tweet at 8:00 PM is likely west coast time as well, since Avenatti's tweet is in Newport, California.

    Furthermore, to refine and perhaps alter what I just wrote above, I presume that those tweet timestamps are in the timezone of the observer, who recorded that tweet image, which is not necessarily the timezone of the one writing the tweet. (I wish those recording tweet images would note their timezone right on their saved images.)

    So I cannot tell, with the evidence I see before me, whether Brennan tweeted before or after the missile image, but unless the Avenatti tweet image was recorded in some east Asia (Oriental or Aussie) timezone, Avenatti tweeted long after the failure of the missile would have been evident to all watching (if by no means more than the absence of some headline news event.)

    ===

    Thus I come to the conclusions that Avenatti tweeted almost certainly after the missile failure would have been obvious to him, and that we cannot tell, from the available evidence, whether Brennan tweeted before or after the missile failure would have been evident to him.

    My conclusions are thus quite different from Neon Revolt's conclusions, which are that both of these tweets were before the missile failure.

    I don't trust Neon Revolt with numbers ... but I still read him for interesting ideas and Q coverage.
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    Q ......CA fires
    7/30/2018
    https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/2354668.html#2355012

    What happens when CA is in serious debt and lost priority aid from the FED gov due to sanctuary city status?
    Declare state of emergency and require billions from FED.
    Why did POTUS reject in the past?
    Sick people!
    The more you know.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...=.b0b7a4e4fca4

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasd...unsustainable/

    http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/l...119-story.html

    Q

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    https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/2354668.html#2355103

    Those you are taught to TRUST the most.
    Link...www.apnews.com (.. Can't copy)
    Link....apnews.com (...can't copy)

    https://www.justice.gov/psc
    look at this one!

    Dark to LIGHT
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    Q 7/30/2018
    https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/2358509.html#2359109

    https://www.dni.gov/files/documents/...r_Apr_2017.pdf

    https://www.mccaininstitute.org/staf...las-rasmussen/
    Think FISA.
    Think NO NAME.
    WH visitor logs: NO NAME/HUSSEIN (Dates?)
    WH visitor logs: NO NAME/BRENNAN/HUSSEIN (Dates?)
    WH visitor logs: NO NAME/BRENNAN/ COMEY/HUSSEIN (Dates?)
    WH visitor logs: NO NAME/BRENNAN/CLAPPER/RICE/HUSSEIN (Dates?)
    Replaced by:
    Acting director...https://www.dni.gov/index.php/nctc-w.../director-nctc
    Director...https://www.dni.gov/index.php/nctc-w...-director-nctc

    Think UK.
    Current Director of the C_A.
    https://www.cia.gov/about-cia/leader...na-haspel.html
    (UK bio removed)
    "Furthermore, Haspel is seen as a Russia expert and a close ally of Britain's MI6, having been London station chief from 2014 - 2017."
    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...tor-atone-past
    The more you know.
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    Default Re: The Qanon posts, and associated US political analysis

    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    Quote Posted by mountain_jim (here)

    I don't usually understand a lot of the Q material, the details and research at the Neon link were helpful today.

    https://www.neonrevolt.com/2018/07/2...reatawakening/


    So it appears from the Avenatti tweet that Q referenced this weekend from a few days before the missile firing at AF1 that Avenatti had advance knowledge? (later - no his tweet was after)
    I noted in Post #5890 above that I thought that Neon Revolt got the address (450, should have been 500) wrong of a picture of a man walking on the street, in front of Avenatti's office.

    I think that Neon Revolt got this one wrong too, a bit more significantly wrong.
    ...

    However, timezones also matter. Brennan might have been first, if his tweet time of 4:47 AM was east coast US time, which would have been only 1:47 AM west coast US time, two hours before the missile image, or Brennan might have tweeted almost an hour after the missile launch, if that tweet of his was observed using west coast US time.

    The missile image at 3:56 AM is surely west coast US time, and Avenatti's tweet at 8:00 PM is likely west coast time as well, since Avenatti's tweet is in Newport, California.

    Furthermore, to refine and perhaps alter what I just wrote above, I presume that those tweet timestamps are in the timezone of the observer, who recorded that tweet image, which is not necessarily the timezone of the one writing the tweet. (I wish those recording tweet images would note their timezone right on their saved images.)

    So I cannot tell, with the evidence I see before me, whether Brennan tweeted before or after the missile image, but unless the Avenatti tweet image was recorded in some east Asia (Oriental or Aussie) timezone, Avenatti tweeted long after the failure of the missile would have been evident to all watching (if by no means more than the absence of some headline news event.)

    ===

    Thus I come to the conclusions that Avenatti tweeted almost certainly after the missile failure would have been obvious to him, and that we cannot tell, from the available evidence, whether Brennan tweeted before or after the missile failure would have been evident to him.

    My conclusions are thus quite different from Neon Revolt's conclusions, which are that both of these tweets were before the missile failure.

    I don't trust Neon Revolt with numbers ... but I still read him for interesting ideas and Q coverage.
    As I read it, it was Q that drew attention to the Avenatti tweet as possibly related to the missile

    Quote Do you believe in coincidences
    , and the the Neon Revolt guy echoed what Q seemed to imply.

    I don't use twitter except passively but I searched and read that all tweets were time-stamped with GMT time. Is that not true?

    From my 5897 post, poorly worded and now edited:

    Quote But the time-stamp here (launch) would seem to be before the Avenatti tweet (so no advance knowledge), but Brennan's could have been hours before launch, depending on what time twitter timestamps with (4:47 am June 10th).

    later: The (Twitter) API stores and returns dates and times in GMT to avoid issues with clock changes.
    My intuition lights on Brennan have been blinking red, I really think they need to expose some evidence and arrest him soon, evil is emanating off him to a scary, scary degree in my sensing.
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    This is part of Qs latest and not sure I understand this sentence? What does like SG/KJU photos mean, and when Q says below 'the images have been taken,' would that mean Q has their feed and captured it?

    Quote The images have been ripped/taken from their phones. (Like in SG/KJU photos)

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    Ha - the latest Q post:
    Quote Q !CbboFOtcZs ID: baa264 No.2361144 📁
    Jul 30 2018 18:22:26 (EST) NEW
    Right on schedule.
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/avenat...heory📁
    Q
    Looking at that Daily Beast article Q links, I see that it begins:

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    Avenatti Targeted in Person by QAnon, the Crazy Pro-Trump Conspiracy Theory

    Police are investigating a man photographed outside the office of Stormy Daniels’s attorney after ‘Q,’ the theory’s leader, sent followers there.

    by Will Sommer, 07.30.18 6:48 PM ET

    Stormy Daniels’s lawyer Michael Avenatti is the latest target for supporters of the pro-Trump conspiracy theory QAnon, with police investigating a man’s appearance near Avenatti’s office after the building was mentioned in QAnon posts.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    So ... The Daily Beast is saying that Q sent followers to the office of Stormy Daniels’s attorney.

    Later in the Daily Beast article, they say that Newport police are looking into it, and they quote Avenatti as saying that the man in the photograph "might be holding a shank", and that “it also looks like he’s wearing a toupee of some sort. And not a very good one, I might add.”

    So ... the story being formed by the Daily Beast: Trump sent out a two bit goon to threaten the attorney of the woman he had illicit sex with, some years ago, and that Q is bragging that the message was "sent", as soon as the goon leaves the area.

    There is no mention in Daily Beast that attorney Avenatti is being primarily paid by some Saudi's or others in the anti-Trump camp. The woman Stormy Daniels doesn't have the kind of money it takes to hire a lawyer such as Avenatti.

    ===

    I do have to hand it to the anti-Trump crowd. By pushing Avenatti on Stormy Daniels as her lawyer, then Avenatti can engage in some more serious anti-Trump work, for some more serious money from Saudi's, and if Trump pushes back on that in any way (as just happened with these Q posts), the anti-Trumpers can paint this as Trump trying to silence Stormy Daniels and her lawyer.

    What a twisted tale we are seeing be woven.
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    Quote Posted by mojo (here)
    This is part of Qs latest and not sure I understand this sentence? What does like SG/KJU photos mean, and when Q says below 'the images have been taken,' would that mean Q has their feed and captured it?

    Quote The images have been ripped/taken from their phones. (Like in SG/KJU photos)
    That would be my guess:
    • Some pro-Trump guy in black took a picture of the building where Avenatti has his offices.
    • Some anti-Trump guy (either Avenatti security or intelligence op) took that mirror-reversed image of the above pro-Trump guy, walking away.
    • Some pro-Trump intelligence stole that reversed image off the anti-Trump guy's camera or off his "feed" (as he uploaded it.)
    • Q posted both the picture of the building, and then the stolen image, all within minutes.
    • The Daily Beast (an anti-Trump outlet) immediately spun this as Trump sending a goon to threaten Stormy Daniel's lawyer (Avenatti).
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    Quote Posted by mojo (here)
    What does like SG/KJU photos mean
    I presume that it means that some photos that Q published from Singapore involving Kim Jong-un were ripped from the upload feeds of some of the anti-Trump, pro Clinton-CIA-etc forces.

    Keep in mind (it seems to me anyway) that North Korea was for many years a puppet state of the Bush-Clinton-CIA syndicate, used to stir up trouble and in various illegal and treasonous activities. So, as with Saudi Arabia, so with North Korea ... there's a rats nest there that is part of what Trump has to clean up.
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    Latest "Q" posts, 1762 - 1766, click to enlarge or go directly to the link below,

    https://qanon.pub/

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    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
    Latest "Q" posts, 1762 - 1766, click to enlarge or go directly to the link below,

    https://qanon.pub/

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    Thank God you're here, KiwiElf!

    I was actually re-typing everything and searching for links!

    LOL


    Eeeewwwwwww! Look at MA's tweet....LOL

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    Quote Posted by Michelle Marie (here)
    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
    Latest "Q" posts, 1762 - 1766, click to enlarge or go directly to the link below,

    https://qanon.pub/

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    Thank God you're here.

    I was actually re-typing everything and searching for links!

    LOL
    Sorry MM, lots happening in this "nape of the wodes", only the first two posts were up a few hours ago... Depending on how many drops happen from this point onward, I may go back to posting text versions

    Figured it was just as easy for readers to go straight to "Q's" website

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    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
    Quote Posted by Michelle Marie (here)
    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
    Latest "Q" posts, 1762 - 1766, click to enlarge or go directly to the link below,

    https://qanon.pub/

    --------------------------------------------------------------------------
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    Thank God you're here.

    I was actually re-typing everything and searching for links!

    LOL
    Sorry MM, lots happening in this "nape of the wodes", only the first two posts were up a few hours ago... Depending on how many drops happen from this point onward, I may go back to posting text versions

    Figured it was just as easy for readers to go straight to "Q's" website
    That website doesn't work for me. Never has. I get a big blank.

    I read it here, or go to 8chan.

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    Hey what IF . . ?



    . . . this guy sings like a bird.

    How far up does his potential ratting damage reach ?
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    Q 7/30/2018

    Avennati Targeted in Person by QAnon, the Crazy Pro-Trump Conspiracy Theory

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/avenat...spiracy-theory
    Right on schedule.
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    Quote Posted by mountain_jim (here)
    I don't use twitter except passively but I searched and read that all tweets were time-stamped with GMT time. Is that not true?
    When I searched for recent posts on the Web regarding "twitter timestamp timezone", one of the search results was this recent post by Praying Medic:

    Praying Medic @prayingmedic

    10) Which means that when you research Twitter posts and compare timestamps of other people's images, you have to know what time zone the tweet was viewed in to know if the timestamp is correct as a reference point.

    #Qanon
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    This suggests to me that one normally displays twitter timestamps in one's local timezone.

    From a user interface point of view, always displaying timestamps in UCT would drive most people nuts ... so I would presume that the default in Twitter is to display in the local timezone of the viewer (just as ProjectAvalon.net and most any other sane, or insane, website does. Most people are not comfortable doing timezone arithmetic in their heads.

    (The underlying, internal, storage of timestamps is usually in UCT ... one timezone to rule them all, once you've graduated beyond the conventions used in the 1980's for DOS and FAT file systems.)
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    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    Ha - the latest Q post:
    Quote Q !CbboFOtcZs ID: baa264 No.2361144 📁
    Jul 30 2018 18:22:26 (EST) NEW
    Right on schedule.
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/avenat...heory📁
    Q
    Looking at that Daily Beast article Q links, I see that it begins:

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
    Avenatti Targeted in Person by QAnon, the Crazy Pro-Trump Conspiracy Theory

    Police are investigating a man photographed outside the office of Stormy Daniels’s attorney after ‘Q,’ the theory’s leader, sent followers there.

    by Will Sommer, 07.30.18 6:48 PM ET

    Stormy Daniels’s lawyer Michael Avenatti is the latest target for supporters of the pro-Trump conspiracy theory QAnon, with police investigating a man’s appearance near Avenatti’s office after the building was mentioned in QAnon posts.

    ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

    So ... The Daily Beast is saying that Q sent followers to the office of Stormy Daniels’s attorney.

    Later in the Daily Beast article, they say that Newport police are looking into it, and they quote Avenatti as saying that the man in the photograph "might be holding a shank", and that “it also looks like he’s wearing a toupee of some sort. And not a very good one, I might add.”

    So ... the story being formed by the Daily Beast: Trump sent out a two bit goon to threaten the attorney of the woman he had illicit sex with, some years ago, and that Q is bragging that the message was "sent", as soon as the goon leaves the area.

    There is no mention in Daily Beast that attorney Avenatti is being primarily paid by some Saudi's or others in the anti-Trump camp. The woman Stormy Daniels doesn't have the kind of money it takes to hire a lawyer such as Avenatti.

    ===

    I do have to hand it to the anti-Trump crowd. By pushing Avenatti on Stormy Daniels as her lawyer, then Avenatti can engage in some more serious anti-Trump work, for some more serious money from Saudi's, and if Trump pushes back on that in any way (as just happened with these Q posts), the anti-Trumpers can paint this as Trump trying to silence Stormy Daniels and her lawyer.

    What a twisted tale we are seeing be woven.
    And...there's speculation that he is going to announce his candidacy for president in Iowa on August 10th.
    https://www.businessinsider.com/mich...mocrats-2018-7

    Michael Avennati [porn star with affiliation with NXIVM] lawyer running for president?
    Wa-ha-ha-ha!

    I didn't even have to buy tickets to this show!!!

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    That website doesn't work for me. Never has. I get a big blank.

    I read it here, or go to 8chan.

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    That website doesn't work for me. Never has. I get a big blank.

    I read it here, or go to 8chan.

    MM
    That was true for me with Internet Explorer but it works for me in Chrome or FireFox.
    I'm just using an iPad/Safari.

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    Quote Posted by Michelle Marie (here)
    Q 7/30/2018

    Avennati Targeted in Person by QAnon, the Crazy Pro-Trump Conspiracy Theory

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/avenat...spiracy-theory
    Right on schedule.
    Q
    Boom !!!

    Q goes alt-prime time. Not quite the New York Times front page yet, but a big step closer.For example, Think Progress (at the above link) writes of QAnon:
    For the uninitiated, QAnon has replaced Pizzagate as the main conspiracy in the fringe, Trump-friendly sections of the internet. A sprawling epic which has the ability to fold in literally any current event, it claims (in a nutshell) that the global Deep State — made up of George Soros, Hillary Clinton, Hollywood, the Rothschilds, and various other bogeymen — are responsible for most of the evil in the world today. It also claims they like to indulge in child sex abuse.

    The theory claims Trump is standing up to that “Deep State” collective, along with Special Counsel Robert Mueller, who followers claim is using the Russia investigation as cover to, at some unspecified time in the future, deliver thousands of sealed indictments and send the entirety of the Deep State to Guantanamo Bay.

    That “information” was posted online by the cryptic “Q,” which refers to the anonymous individual’s supposed high-ranking security clearance within the U.S. government, and which gives the theory its name.

    Like all wild internet theories, the QAnon conspiracy began on 4chan before then migrating to the even more backwater 8chan. But in recent months, it has increasingly drifted over into the real world.

    On June 15, a man with an AR-15 drove onto the Hoover Dam in an armored truck and demanded the government release a report (which had already been published) that supposedly validated Q’s theories. QAnon merchandise is also readily available for purchase and is often seen at Trump rallies. On Tuesday, right-wing commentator Ben Shapiro retweeted one of the main QAnon promoters, “Praying Medic,” who claimed former U.S. dignitaries had retained security clearances because they were members of the “Deep State.”
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    If the video about Hanks got to the top of youtube's search ranking, it must have been because youtube and friends wanted it to.

    Which, in turn means, they want to go head on against the Q phenomenon and have a full scale battle of the bulge while they think they still have enough clout in the rigged media game.
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    Q 7/31/2018 ...still 7/30/2018 here!

    Refers to Post 2364537
    https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/2363217.html#2363457

    Excellent!
    You cannot fool a massive group of dedicated gold star researchers.
    At what point does it become mathematically impossible?
    Comms structure designed for a very specific reason.
    Q


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