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    Hi:

    I don’t have much time this morning, but in the conclusion of After the Cataclysm, Noam and Ed noted the American media’s achievement of erasing the American bludgeoning of Indochina, turning the USA “from causal agent to bystander,” as it righteously moralized about the Khmer Rouge, even though the USA supported Pol Pot after Vietnam overthrew him and ended the Cambodian genocide.

    I don’t want to be too hard on them, but there is a cottage industry in science and scholarship that strenuously denies that humans had anything to do with the megafauna extinctions, including our cousin species. Paper after paper is churned out that argues that climate change did it, or various “anything but humans” hypotheses.

    IMO, the similarities are not coincidental, and are all about defending one’s in-group. It is the American state being defended regarding the media and Indochina, and it is humanity, or perhaps the ancestors of the world’s indigenous peoples, being defended regarding the megafauna and human extinctions.

    As I noted regarding the history profession, in one of my site’s oldest essays, the documents obtained are less important than the bias of the historian sifting through them. To me, these are just examples of my journey’s primary lesson. That is the reason for our predicament, and all other factors pale to insignificance.

    As Noam noted, Ed was a model of integrity, and that, more than anything else, attracted me to him.

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    Hi:

    I decided to look at what was left of Brian’s Wikipedia biography, in a little detail, after that rude admin got done with it. Even though this is about eight years later, it confirmed my strategy of doing Brian’s NASA bio, first, to head off the “skeptics” and other assailants, and even then, they gave it a shot. My thinking was that if I got it on the record with NASA, first, the assailants at Wikipedia would have a hard time of it. Although the last 20 years of Brian’s life, on the free energy quest, has been completely erased at Wikipedia (at least his books are mentioned), at least his Martian credentials survived, which is his unique distinction. The astronaut corps treated me great, as the most famous active astronaut treated me graciously in a situation that was highly politically charged. At Wikipedia, it has been a little different.

    That rude Wikipedia admin wrote early on in his campaign that it was not the content that he had a problem with, but how I did it: knowing Brian, “plagiarizing” myself, and the like. But when I looked at his edits, he got very editorial, passing judgment on Brian’s scientific career. Brian was an early advocate of coordinating efforts to get stellar occultation data, and one of his papers was among the first of an international organization devoted to such observations, and Brian wrote a paper with Tom Van Flandern in 1972 on one such famous occultation. That admin erased all references to Brian’s occultation work while dismissing it as unremarkable, and while erasing everything about Brian’s work on free energy, that admin literally said about what was primarily my work, “This was a f**king mess,” and dismissed it all as “hagiographic” as he erased it. Not reverted, but erased, as if it never existed, other than the public taking his word for it that he fixed a “f**king mess.” The degradation of Internet discourse is reaching its nadir, when that kind of writing, by an admin, no less, is found at the source that pops up first when almost any kind of Internet search is done today.

    So, that admin is all over it, making sure that no “hagiography” graces Wikipedia, as he heroically cleans up f**king messes at Wikipedia. Among that admin’s erasures, insults, and threats, he also took me to task for my contribution to a talk page on a German scientist who was the protégé of a doctor involved with human experiments in the death camps, and with his background sanitized by Operation Paperclip, he was able to wrangle quite the career in the USA, not only publishing papers with his human experiment mentor, but he got to be Wernher von Braun’s sidekick on a Disney TV show and write a children’s book that extolled the virtues of nuclear energy. Declassified documents tell the story today, but that German scientist’s biography at Wikipedia is outright hagiography. So, while all over my “hagiography” of Brian, that admin took me to task for challenging the treatment of a German scientist while that admin simultaneously turned a blind eye to that hagiography, which has been actively policed by that Nazi’s son. I wonder if that hagiographic account will outlive me. It is almost beyond words, the kind of “selective enforcement” that happens at Wikipedia today.

    That reasonable editor is now making changes to Ed’s bio, and we’ll see how that goes. I expect fur to fly. Philip Cross already reverted one of his changes, which he reverted back, with support. That reasonable editor is a paragon of editorial virtue, and he believes in Wikipedia. I hope that it goes well for his effort. So far, as far as Ed is concerned, Wikipedia is confirming, in spades, Ed and Noam’s propaganda model. Maybe we should leave it as is, as a testament to Ed’s work.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi:

    Two editors are working on Ed’s bio, trying to improve it, partly by copying over parts of Noam’s bio. We will see how far their effort takes them. The opposition is going to be loyal (some may be well-paid, as Cross may be). I want to call out something about Wikipedia’s deceptions that are partly structural, which Ed might have appreciated. In the world of scholarship, it is far more effective to lie by omission than by commission. Uncle Howard also discussed another propaganda device, in which something is not omitted, but briefly mentioned in the name of completeness (to avoid the charge of omission), but quickly buried, so that genocide becomes an obscure footnote to a rousing tale of adventure and discovery.

    George Washington has probably been subjected to more hagiography than any other American. I have yet to see even one biography of Washington that even mentions his greatest feat: crafting the blueprint for stealing a continent, which was a criminal plan that worked brilliantly. Using Washington’s advice, the USA forced treaties onto the Indian nations that were not worth the paper they were printed on, as a low-intensity method of swindling them out of their land and lives. Historians cannot find even one treaty with the Indians that the USA honored, because the USA never intended to honor them. It was a fraudulent strategy at the outset. I have written on Washington’s grand plan extensively, with primary documents and numerous history books, but it has never made it into a biography of Washington that I have seen. Just last week, I had some time to kill in a store that had copies of a recent Washington bio for sale. I think it was this Pulitzer-Prize-winning effort (but there are so many that maybe it was another work). I searched in it, and there was not a word about his greatest feat, among quite a bit of discussion about Washington’s relations with the Indians. More than a decade ago, somebody mentioned my work on the talk page at the Wikipedia article on Washington, noting that glaring omission. That is a good way to make hagiography out of somebody’s life: omit the crimes, particularly the historic ones. You can see that nothing remotely fair about that aspect of Washington’s life and career has made it into his Wikipedia biography. It would be like writing about Hitler without mentioning his genocidal Lebensraum plans for Eastern Europe. And that is not a strained analogy at all, as what Washington and friends did to the Indians directly inspired Hitler’s plans, which also largely escaped the history books. That is how you make hagiography at Wikipedia. Somebody else, just this month, is taking a crack at correcting the record. Good luck with that.

    So, to last night’s post about how the “f**king mess” of my work had to be cleaned up at Brian’s bio, that admin made the call on Brian’s scientific career, deciding that Brian’s pioneering efforts on occultations, which took place in the most prestigious scientific publication in the USA, was not “notable” enough in that admin’s estimation, and was summarily erased. Brian’s papers published in Science comprised a big reason why he was chosen to be an astronaut. But that admin made his call and erased that part of Brian’s career, as unnecessary “hagiography” on my part. That rude admin might even be able to defend himself with, “I only take out the hagiography and leave in the notable facts.” That somebody like that makes editorial decisions and gets to play judge, jury, and executioner says a lot about Wikipedia.

    To turn to lies of omission, I have stated more than once that Noam’s predictions of the propaganda model, which I never saw at Wikipedia and that censorious admin erased, make Ed’s bio today completely understandable, as the article is dominated by attacks on Ed’s and Noam’s writings on “nefarious” bloodbaths, which the propaganda model predicts. A couple of Jews are thereby portrayed as “genocide deniers,” and outright libel is allowed at Ed’s bio, such as the insane claim that Ed tried to deny that the Srebrenica Massacre ever happened. So, “hagiography” is erased, libel gets to stand, Ed and Noam are falsely portrayed as Khmer Rouge supporters and genocide deniers, and the sidekick of death camp Nazis gets hagiographic treatment. When that rude admin is not using locker room talk, he might even be able to defend his actions with, “I only censor what I deem fit for it, and I don’t add material.” So, he takes no stand on the content of a German scientist’s hagiography, while he eagerly erased my “hagiography.”

    Of course, the connections and irony of this situation are not lost on me, in a number of ways. Like Haber, Brian was kind of Werner von Braun’s sidekick, as von Braun was responsible for Brian’s being picked as an astronaut, as von Braun was still chasing his Mars dreams, and Brian was the first talent in the stable for it. But NASA lost the budget battle with the Pentagon, which was busy committing genocide in Indochina, which was the beginning of Ed’s and Noam’s political writing careers. While Haber flacked for nuclear power, hosted a Disney show titled, Our Friend the Atom, and later wrote a children’s book of the same name, Brian pursued free energy. Haber gets the hagiography, while Brian’s free energy efforts are erased, and I am sure that, among a stream of four-letter words, that censorious admin can defend it. Of course, he won’t. How can he? It is like benign bloodbaths; much better that they pass in silence.

    I’ll get over this before long, but it is an amazing set of circumstances, which my “friends” once again probably have a hand in.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi:

    Well, not only did my work at Wikipedia disappear, so did that forum that I was kind of run out of. That forum seemed to die some time ago, and it looks like it is done. Forums come and go. That is now two forums that I saw started by Avalonians that have died. The other one was Nexus. Bill and team get kudos that Avalon still exists.

    Brian’s site was down yesterday (I have offered to host it in the past), but it is back up this morning. I’ll have to start thinking about making my site easily portable if I meet my demise. To see a forum that I made hundreds of posts to disappear is a little depressing. The good news is that most of the posts were copied at my forum. Sites and forums are rather ephemeral. I expect mine to live as long as I do, and after that, we’ll see, but if all goes well, I’ll live to see the beginning of the Fifth Epoch, and it will be mission accomplished. I am still in the “making my material as good as I can” phase of my little project. The biggest event in the human journey won’t come overnight.

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    Hi:

    Ed and I had a friendly correspondence over nearly 20 years, apparently so friendly that I am disqualified from ever editing articles related to him at Wikipedia. I began to try introducing Ed to Brian between around 2001, when I began collaborating with Brian, and 2004, when my NEM experience ended. Ed was never interested. All that I received was polite silence, and in 2003 and 2004, during our NEM effort, the Richard Heinberg experience was very educational for me, in a number of ways.

    It began in early 2003, when I read some of Uncle Bucky’s work, after one of his pupils called me a “comprehensivist” and I did not know what he meant. The comprehensive lightbulb finally went on for me, which I had been unwittingly groping toward for many years, arguably since I could walk. Mere weeks after finishing with my introduction to Bucky’s work, I read this article by Heinberg, on the eve of Iraq’s invasion. Iraq’s invasion may have been the most emotionally agonizing time of my life, and that is saying something. I had witnessed the USA’s turning into Nazi Germany, with aggressive wars that may be far from over. If humanity survives, the USA’s invasion of Iraq may be seen as the first salvos of World War III, and Bush and Blair will be seen as the 21st century equivalent of Hitler and Mussolini, and here we are again, attacking Russia, like Napoleon and Hitler did. If it turns into a shooting war, those elite plans to make a survival enclave on Mars might be timely.

    Heinberg’s article was the first time that I read Peak Oiler work. I vaguely knew that the oil would run out one day, but I was not familiar with Peak Oiler work. Heinberg published his first Peak Oiler book a few weeks later. I got familiar, fast, and read books that Heinberg relied on (Catton, Tainter, Deffeyes) before I contacted him in May 2003, through an activist that we had in common.

    Heinberg’s work was quite interdisciplinary, which appealed to my budding comprehensive awareness, and we had several convergences in our work. One was that Heinberg was Velikovsky’s assistant, and I had been on the fringes of that controversy for several years by that time. Velikovsky was decidedly multi-disciplinary in his approach, although I doubt that much, if any, of his catastrophic work is valid. He got points for advocating catastrophism when uniformitarianism was a dogma, but I don’t see that his work merits much beyond that. Velikovsky was famously attacked by Brian’s erstwhile buddy Carl Sagan, debunker extraordinaire, and Sagan’s dishonest attack arguably kept the Velikovsky controversy alive far longer than it should have.

    Another convergence was that Heinberg wrote about free energy as a possible solution. He wrote about some of the exact situations, even down to the people, such as Sparky Sweet, that I had been involved with. Heinberg wrote about them in a semi-ridiculing way, but I always give people the benefit of the doubt, until they demonstrate to me that there is no doubt to give them the benefit of. I even did it with Mr. Skeptic. I contacted Heinberg in a very friendly and welcoming way, eager to give him some inside perspective on the very situations that he wrote about, and was more than happy to introduce him to Brian, which was about the same time that Brian invited me to help him establish NEM.

    Heinberg was not interested. Not only was he not interested, he explicitly stated that until we could agree that humanity is quickly running out of energy and is using too much of it, that there was no point in discussing the issues any further. He was begging the question, as free energy would make his arguments pointless. I walked away from Heinberg, stunned by his response. What made Heinberg’s response doubly bizarre was the he was onboard with the idea that 9/11 was an inside job (which was very “unlefty”), but he could not seem to comprehend organized suppression, which would have orders of magnitude more motivation for elite involvement than 9/11 would have had. Heinberg was a prototypical Level 3.

    During the next year, our little NEM effort tried to get Brian visibility, using him as a kind of battering ram to open doors. But an interview on Jeff Rense’s program was about all that happened. Brian tried and tried to get into “progressive” venues, and found no takers. Not only was nobody interested, Heinberg was being feted like a conquering hero across the entire Left/environmentalist spectrum. As I bought groceries at my local progressive store in May 2014 (when Mallove was murdered), a cover story featuring Heinberg greeted me as I walked through the door. The same month, there was an interview with Heinberg in Z Magazine, which I had subscribed to for more than a decade by that time, and it was Ed’s primary publishing conduit by then. While Brian’s message was one of healing and abundance, Heinberg beat the drums of doom. Brian was completely shut out from all “progressive” venues while Heinberg got the red carpet treatment at those very same venues. It was kind of mind-bending to me at the time, but Bucky’s work helped me understand what I was seeing: people were addicted to scarcity. Perhaps stated more precisely, people were addicted to their survival mechanisms in a world of scarcity and fear, including their adoptive ideologies, and were not about to let go.

    Many years of derision and denial, from all quarters, became clear to me in those days. I wanted to walk away from NEM in May 2014, even before Mallove was murdered, as I could tell that our efforts were doomed (from the inside, as our motley crew did not have what it took to make a dent, with inexperience and naïveté a leading reason, but they also did not understand the integrity issue), but Brian begged me to stay, and I poured $15K into NEM over the next several months and quit right after our conference in September 2004. My money, given as a gift when I did not want to be there, was completely wasted. The years 2003 and 2004 were very dismaying to me, I was in the darkest phase of my midlife crisis, and I went quiet for years, while working 60-hour weeks at my day job after I resumed my career, after those several years of study and writing that became my site as it largely stands today.

    I was not finished writing about Ed and the Left yet, and am still kind of involved, writing Ed’s first biography, no matter how it has gone with Wikipedia.

    Best,

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    Reading Energy and Equity by Ivan Illich did not finish yet, it is an interesting comment on industrial societies, especially the inequality of speed.


    (I also notice the irony of me pointing to wikipedia, *sigh*, please remember to read the talk page and all the edits when reading any article on wikipedia)

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    Hi Krishna:

    Ah yes, Wikipedia, the necessary evil these days. Your advice makes sense if you can see the edits. Virtually everything that I did there was erased, on the flimsiest of pretexts. The extreme reaction to my work that you just witnessed has been a typical reception for many years. You would think that I was the world’s greatest plagiarist and copyright violator, given what happened. It was the Internet equivalent of Dennis’s spending two years behind bars, and nearly dying there, for failing to file a form. My work means the end of the world as we know it, and at some level, people understand that, and hence the violent reactions, although they can rarely admit it to themselves. I try to not take it personally.

    I’ll have a little more to say about Wikipedia, but not a whole lot. Like so many things, its performance falls far short of its promise, and it is nearly a parody of an encyclopedia today. I refer to it too, but warily. When the story of life on Earth gets to the human parts, especially current events, Wikipedia can become worse than worthless, with all of the ax-grinders doing their thing, and Wikipedia may well have been captured by the intelligence community, with its neo-con co-founder.

    On Illich, maybe you can write something on what Illich is missing about the Fifth Epoch (a little homework ). It lies outside of his view of the possible. Without clean and abundant energy, a world of abundance cannot come to pass. I have rarely seen a pundit or philosopher who could really understand abundance, as they fall off the rails into thinking in terms of exuberant, sustainable, and the like. Until people can release their epochal conditioning, they really can’t begin to imagine it, which is why I always say that a person has to be awakened already, or they won’t begin to understand. The GCs know exactly what I am writing about, which is why they keep the lid so tightly on it, as they keep humanity oblivious of its potential, keeping people at the level of survival and temporarily sating their addictions. It is not easy to enslave the awake, not in the Fourth Epoch.

    The arrival of decentralized, clean, abundant energy will be the biggest event in the human journey, and will wipe away nearly all of the social structures that Illich theorized about, such as nations, exchange institutions, etc. Illich focused on transportation, but that is a tiny aspect of the issue. That conversation that I imagine the choir one day singing has never been heard before, and truly, only a relative few are going to be able to hear it, but they will be enough.

    Best,

    Wade
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    Hi:

    I’ll be winding down the Wikipedia posts, at least until I write that essay about Ed and the Left.

    I once read somebody state that the only fair way to evaluate any political-economic system is by the people it produced. There is truth to that, but it goes further than that. That system’s effect on the world deserves to be weighed on that scale, whether it is environmental destruction or its imperial behavior. Any system has to be evaluated based on its final product, which includes the impact of how it was produced. Elite clothing produced by slaves or virtual slaves must be held accountable for the total effect of the enterprise. King Tut’s sumptuous grave mask was purchased with the lives of thousands of slaves. Similar activities take place today.

    When Krishna joined the fray on the attacks and erasure of my work at Wikipedia, he wrote about the spirit of the law versus its letter, which is a noble sentiment and germane to what happened. Wikipedia claims to be focused on the process, which ensures quality content, but at some point, one needs to step back and consider the end result, and the process is anything but evenhanded. The Wikipedia project has to be held accountable for its final product, although it can say that it is always a work in process. The events of my brief encounters at Wikipedia include:
    • I have written at length about George Washington’s greatest achievement – writing the blueprint for stealing a continent, in history’s greatest swindle – and how that little fact is absent from his biographies, and somebody mentioned that omission at Wikipedia more than a decade ago, yet the hagiography stands to this day. Just this month, others have been trying to correct the record at Wikipedia, but they don’t have a prayer, IMO. Washington’s activities helped inspire Hitler, which is another little fact that is going to escape the hagiographic treatment at Wikipedia.
    • A decade ago, I made additions to a massacre list that was extremely biased in favor of Europeans and Americans. Within days, all of my additions, which were the first scholarly additions to that list, were removed, by the editors as well as by the admins. In the logic of the editors and admins, the murder of two white invaders by the invaded was more “notable” than 40,000 natives slaughtered by the first great conquest by Spain in the Western Hemisphere. That magnitude of disparity in treatment ranks with the “genocide” bias that Ed noted in the Western media.
    • That same year, I noted the omission of any allegations of crimes against humanity in a German scientist’s biography, while his son managed his father’s bio, which stands as hagiography today. In recent weeks, I dug back into this issue and plan to write an essay on Operation Paperclip, the German scientists, and war crimes. That scientist might well have not committed any war crimes himself, but the issue is very clouded, thanks to American and German whitewashing. Wikipedia’s renditions of the situations are a farce. The USA very actively covered for war criminals, whitewashing their backgrounds and protecting them from prosecution, because they were useful to the USA’s Cold War efforts. There is not a hint of that at the Paperclip article at Wikipedia, as the whitewash got a whitewash. In the USA, that German scientist was the sidekick of two war criminals. People can make the argument that Wernher von Braun wasn’t a war criminal, and that would be quite a debate to have, which I have been involved with before, but his rocketry efforts in World War II were directly responsible for the deaths of more than 20,000 concentration camp inmates. However, for his other colleague, his mentor, Hubertus Strughold, there is no doubt that Strughold was involved in death camp human experiments. And like the whitewashing Paperclip article, one of Strughold’s close colleagues was undoubtedly involved in human experiments at Dachau, which killed many prisoners, he has a whitewash article, too, and Strughold actively covered up his friend’s medical experiments, in the same book where his sidekick’s first paper appeared.
    • This month, I finished an effort, which took more than a year of my “spare” time, to create Ed Herman’s biography at Wikipedia, to only see it summarily erased by a rude admin within hours. While death camp Nazis and the “Father of our Country” get whitewashes, Ed’s bio at Wikipedia today stands as an exercise in disinformation, calling him a “genocide denier,” among other fictions, which is quite a charge to make against a Jew. The most active editor of Ed’s bio is a notorious “person” who is likely a team of people, whose editorial slant is so severe as to be libelous, and that team may well work for the intelligence community. That “editor” has been openly defended by Wikipedia’s co-founder.

    Those situations highlight the political nature of Wikipedia’s articles. The bias is so extreme that Wikipedia itself resembles a disinformation effort, which unfortunately conforms to Ed and Noam’s propaganda model, even though Wikipedia is non-profit.

    To add icing to the cake, that editor erased most of my contributions to Brian O’s Wikipedia biography, while calling my edits a “f**king mess,” and that admin erased all references to Brian’s free energy work, which consumed the last 20 years of his life. Ironically, today is the seventh anniversary of Brian’s death (not the July 28th death at his NASA bio, which has become his “official” data of death). The erasures of my work, which even Wikipedia admits is an extreme measure, were performed on the flimsiest of pretexts. The accusations were that I had a conflict of interest with Ed and Brian, that I made copyright violations, and that I had plagiarized myself. The copyright “violations” were virtually all for quotes that I also put at Ed’s Wikiquote page (that page is entirely my work today), and I don’t understand the logic of quotations being at one part of the Wiki-family is fine, but putting them in a Wikipedia bio is a copyright violation. I have long given away the rights to my writings, doing it on my home page, so I was guilty of plagiarizing my public-domain self, which is the strangest case of “plagiarism” that I have heard of. My so-called conflicts of interest, particularly with Ed, were orders of magnitude smaller than those of that German scientist’s son, who manages his father’s bio like a hawk, turning that bio into outright hagiography, and that conflict of interest passes in silence.

    So, in summary, death camp Nazis get softball treatment, as does the “Father of our Country,” while one of the greatest scholars of conscience in American history (and arguably world history) has a libelous bio. I don’t care what the so-called rules of Wikipedia are. I have borne the brunt of the selective enforcement of them, which are so great as to result in many Wikipedia articles being exercises in disinformation. In the end, the final result is what matters, so, at this time, Wikipedia is a miserable failure on key issues. I will likely still refer to Wikipedia in my big essay, but with an even stronger caveat, and I may no longer suggest donating to them, which I have done in the past.

    Best,

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    I find Wikipedia useful for non-controversial matters, such as reminding myself what is the Pythagorean Theorem.

    But for any topic of more substance, it's time to skip past the first few pages of a Google search, and see what I can find, and where that might lead.
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    Thanks Paul:

    Yes, for the Internet, that works far better. The Internet is still a pretty poor information resource in ways. As I look across my office at the shelves of the scientific and historical books that I used for my big essay, so much is not on the Internet, and that is for subjects that are not very susceptible to elite manipulation, such as dinosaur issues. The Internet rarely goes deep on any of the subjects, not like those books do. The Internet’s potential is barely tapped, and resources such as Wikipedia are a huge disappointment so far. Uncle Noam and Ed warned 20 years ago about what could happen to the Internet, and to a degree, it already has.

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    Hi:

    After the NEM disaster, I went quiet for years. Brian immediately moved to South America after our conference, and spent the rest of his life there. Mallove’s murder before the conference and John Mack’s death the day after the conference ended convinced Brian to get out of Dodge, and fast. He did not want to become another cautionary tale, although he already was.

    I was replaced on the NEM board by a famous free energy name who soon led what Brian called a “rebellion” that booted him out of NEM. That was no surprise for me, with what I had been through, and it was not the first time that it had happened to Brian.

    I was in the darkest phase of my midlife crisis in those years, and I wrote what some consider my most inspiring essay, in early 2006, and I wrote it as a kind of therapy for myself, to make it clear what I was pursuing. In those days, it was like walking around with a big, emotional spike in my chest. After years of pestering me about it, Krishna finally convinced me to contact the father of the Free Software Movement, Richard Stallman. Krishna thought that free software and free energy activists would make natural allies, and it seemed to make sense to me, and I contacted Stallman in the summer of 2006. We had a cordial but ultimately frustrating correspondence over about a month. Like Heinberg, Stallman was another entrenched Level 3. Stallman was another one of those 160+ IQ people that I have interacted with. I have found that the “smart” can be the most stuck in their conditioning, amazingly. The big trap for the “smart,” at least in the West, is what I have called the “rationalist-materialist paradigm,” and materialism is usually a wide-enough net to catch them, and their barriers to comprehension include these features:
    • A denial of the abilities and attributes of consciousness, other than rational thinking;
    • The thought that the corpus of mainstream scientific thought and its findings, often called “the laws of physics,” the “laws of nature,” and the like, had revealed all the secrets of the universe or were close to that goal (the standard “skeptical” stance), and that the tools of mainstream science were the only worthy ones;
    • A denial that elites and other interests would or could manipulate the world economy and key global events from behind the scenes, usually dismissing all such activities as being an untenable “conspiracy theory”, as they irrationally confused evidence with theories. Our experiences were no theory.

    Also, their keen “intelligence” usually made their ideas impervious to argument. Stallman was far from the first or last like him that I encountered, but he was kind of a quintessential example of it. During the same month that I interacted with Stallman, I wrote an open letter to the Free Software Movement. Other than Krishna, I doubt that I have heard from anybody else in that milieu. Krishna even worked on Stallman, but came away frustrated, and Krishna noted that Stallman did not understand rather mundane issues such as the demographic transition, and did not seem interested in understanding.

    During that summer of 2006, I quietly wrestled with my midlife crisis, and its theme was that my life’s work was an exercise in futility. Humanity was going to flush itself straight down the toilet, taking most of Earth’s ecosystems with it, and all that I could do was stand by and watch, and even get dragged along for the ride, although I might get “lucky” and die before it really hit the fan.

    My midlife crisis began in 2000, and did not begin to end until the end of August 2006, when Dennis arrived at my home, unannounced, to invite me to Washington D.C. for an eve of the election demonstration of the technologies that he was currently working on. The demonstration was being arranged by the sitting president’s energy advisor. The last place on Earth where I wanted to be was at the White House, having tea with Bush and Cheney. Brian talked in front of the White House less than two weeks after Dennis invited me to the White House, in another of the innumerable bizarre synchronicities of my life. I turned Dennis down instantly, along with his offer to be on the board of his new venture. With Mr. Professor’s death, which sent me into the dark phase of my midlife crisis, I was the only person outside of his family that Dennis deeply trusted, but I wanted no part of another radical business venture, no matter how noble.

    For me, the rich irony of what Dennis was involved with in those days was that he had developed high-MPG carburetor technology. It was like I had come full circle from my teenage dreams of more than 30 years previously, with Mr. Mentor’s engine. With what Dennis, I, and other free energy revolutionaries knew existed, squeezing more energy from a gallon of gasoline was child’s play, but was also a way for Dennis to get a leg up, like his heat pump was, but the capitalist game is rigged to the extreme. What we encountered was capitalism on steroids.

    A few years later, when Dennis was finally forbidden to be involved in the energy industry in the USA, and I read the FTC’s clever lies as they went after Dennis, soon after David Rockefeller called Dennis at home, I thanked my lucky stars that I did not get involved with Dennis again, as the Feds would have shown up at my house. Several years after those events, I met with Dennis’s assistant, who kind of replaced me as Dennis’s sidekick, and he said that he nearly soiled himself when the Feds arrived at his house and served him their papers. It was familiar territory for me, which I never want to see again.

    When Dennis left, it sent me into new throes of agony, and my psychologist wife began insisting that I seek professional help, as she did many years previously, and I once again got trauma therapy. By late 2006, the clouds finally began to part, and my life’s longest stretch of emotional agony ended (which was actually rivaled by my life’s previous several years, as I write this, which I may never be able to publicly discuss). By early 2007, I began the study that resulted in my big essay. If you had asked me exactly what the result of my upcoming years of study would produce, I would not have replied with writing my big essay. That big essay was beyond my wildest dreams, even in 2007.

    In June 2007, I wrote an open letter to the radical left, which to this day is the closest thing that I could find to kindred spirits (Ed, Noam, and Howard were their patron saints), but they are generally ideologically opposed to the idea of organized suppression, and what my friend saw blows mainstream physics out of the water, which lefties cannot wrap their minds around.

    After having no contact with the public since 2002, I began to join forums where I had seen my work discussed, and I quickly discovered that the Internet had become a Troll Festival during my years of seclusion. I was attacked wherever I appeared, and Mr. Skeptic usually arrived, even the day after I appeared, heaving his disinformation bombs. After Dennis was finally run out of the USA, Mr. Skeptic quietly folded his tents and disappeared, as his 15-year crusade was finished. I am more than half-convinced that he was on somebody’s payroll during his vendetta, as Bill the BPA Hit Man was, as many professionals and psychopaths were sicced on us over the years. Working for the forces of darkness pays well, for a time. I finally got the message when I joined a forum that was full of trolls, and as they ganged up on me, I was expelled from the forum. After that experience, I decided that the only forum that I would join in the future would be mine, which would be a troll-free zone.

    In the summer of 2007, I wrote an essay that was inspired by some activists who contacted me, and that essay brought Brian back into my life (although it blew those activists out of the water), who said that that essay was the best thing that he had read in a long time. We began collaborating again, Brian told me his tale of being run out of NEM by the other board members, and through his contacts, early the next year I did my first public interview, followed the next year by what will always be my favorite, when Bill Ryan and Kerry Cassidy interviewed me and Brian for their Project Camelot. I won’t have another interview with Brian. There is a lot more to come on these issues, but I now begin what will be a crazily busy next few weeks at my day job, so my posts will slow down.

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    Hi:

    At the same time that Dennis was being run out of the USA, Brian wanted to approach the DOE and test Obama’s “visionary” energy policy, in which he allegedly encouraged radical energy innovation. Brian’s site might not be long for the world, as it keeps going down. Here is the DOE proposal on his site, and here it is on mine. I was evicted from my home at about the same time that Brian asked me to help him. Of course, I did, but writing my parts of the proposal (big picture, further obstacles) was memorable, as I wrote it while boxing up my library for the move. While I wrote it, I wondered what Brian thought that we would accomplish. In his last book, which I helped edit, he admitted his co-dependency with Washington, D.C. You can hear Brian talking, here, about how our proposal was received. I had spoken at DOE hearings before, with Dennis, and while educational, it was an exercise in futility. Dennis and Brian kept banging on the Establishment’s door, kept banging on any doors that they could, while trying to mount a mass movement. I carried the spears in five mass movement efforts before deciding that they did not have a prayer. There are not enough people with the right stuff for that approach to work. Those are just the numbers, and no judgment is implied, but I am constantly approached by naïve newcomers, who have never gone out and done anything of significance, who think that they have the magic answer to harness sociality, and that they will succeed while the best of the best never had a chance. What suicidal folly.

    Greer has done the same thing. They try to get either the elite or the masses involved. Neither group is going to help, as their self-interest marks the true north of their awareness. Self-serving people are not going to help this along at all, and because personal integrity is the world’s scarcest commodity, the people who can help are going to be very few and far between. I am seeking a middle ground that has never been sought before for this epochal task, and I am intimately familiar with what does not work. There are no short-cuts or easy answers, not for the biggest event in the human journey, but that does not prevent newcomers from constantly trying, and the standard beginner’s activity is to rush out and proselytize to their social circles, telling them the “good news,” to only get rudely awakened: their social circles don’t want to hear about it. I constantly hear tales of ostracism from those newcomers. The best of them finally get it out of their systems and become willing to learn and put their bright ideas in the dustbin.

    There is plenty more to come, but it took nearly 40 years, from my teenage dreams, to my real world early awakenings in my profession, through the war years with Dennis, through years of study, to getting back in the game for a little while (1, 2), to more study, to finally arrive at my current approach. If you told me what lied ahead, when I had my teenage dreams, I would not have believed any of it.

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    For me, the rich irony of what Dennis was involved with in those days was that he had developed high-MPG carburetor technology.
    Apparently, from some "conspiracy theory research" that I was listening to the other day (it might have been Jim Willie of the GoldenJackass.com),were both deliberately caused by American petro interests, in order to shut down a Volkswagen project to deliver a high-MPG (over 200 miles-per-gallon) car which was close to coming to market.

    Ah - yes - it was in this 30 July 2018 Rogue Money Radio (RMR) interview of Jim Willie, starting at 54:43.
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    Thanks Paul:

    Nothing would surprise me in that realm. I am not sure if I ever made a comprehensive post on me and high-MPG technology. From Mr. Mentor’s engine to his own attempt to make a high-MPG carburetor to my Justice Department pal to Mr. Inventor to Dennis’s bodyguard, to Dennis’s final attempt, I have been privy to a great deal of that kind of information, including a lot that I have never publicly disclosed. Most of what I have to report is at most second-hand. For all of the above situations, I heard about it directly from the participants. David Rockefeller got involved, of course, and so on.

    That Volkswagen and China story is certainly interesting, but I don’t know much about it. Europe makes cars that get more than 50 MPG, but they are outlawed in the USA, similar to the flimsy excuses that I heard in that interview (or the flimsy excuses for erasing my writings at Wikipedia). But it is all an urban legend. You won’t find much on Wikipedia!

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    I have a 2003 TDI (Turbo Diesel Injection) Volkswagon that gets 40 miles per gallon. We keep fixing it because it runs forever on one tank of gas.

    I do read many of your posts, Wade.

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    Hi Valerie:

    I see your thanks on posts. I hope that the reading is worth it. Some pals do the thanks so that I know they are reading. There is some German synchronicity this morning. My wife is not happy about it, but I have been reading more about the Nazis that the USA brought in under Operation Paperclip, and it is grim reading, as usual. My summer of studying World War II, back in 1999, damaged me and my marriage. Not only did the USA’s Founding Fathers inspire Hitler’s genocidal plans for Eastern Europe, but Hitler’s anti-Semitic policies were inspired by one of the USA’s greatest industrialists, Henry Ford. Hitler once said that Ford taught him all that he knew, and the Third Reich even gave Ford a medal. About a third of the Third Reich’s trucks during World War II were produced by Ford, which I heard was demoralizing for American soldiers when they captured German equipment. The Volkswagen (literally “The People’s Car”) was Hitler’s answer to the Model T, so it is ironic to hear these rumors that Volkswagen was going to produce a 200 MPG car, to get shot down.

    The thing about Paperclip was not just how disgusting it was, bringing in death camp Nazis to help with the Cold War: the Nazis were partly responsible for the Cold War. The Gehlen Org lied to the USA about Soviet intentions and capabilities, telling their handlers what they wanted to hear, and helped lead the world to the brink of World War III. As Uncle Ed wrote, the USA’s “containment” policy was fraudulent. The Soviet Union was just a handy excuse for American imperialism. When the Soviet Union collapsed, American imperialists had a problem on their hands: finding a new boogieman. As Ed and Noam noted, the “war on terror” provided a useful substitute for the Soviet Union, although with few actual “terrorists” in the world really doing much, Russia has been “rehabilitated” into a malevolent threat once again, as it has been demonized in the Western media for more than a century.

    The Rockefellers were also deeply in bed with the Nazis from the beginning, and their creatures the Dulles brothers were not only architects of the Cold War, but liberally used Nazis. And it was not just some kind of embarrassment for the USA: to a significant degree, Nazi policies became American policies. Those Nazis who performed human experiments on death camp prisoners did not just bring their findings and expertise to the USA, but their ethics, too. The Nazi experiments were the direct predecessor of MKUltra and other programs, which were often performed on involuntary subjects. Americans thereby became victims of Nazi human experiments. Thousands of American soldiers were used as guinea pigs that way. Fluoridation is compulsory “medicine” forced on the American populace, and before the USA began jamming it down the public’s throat, soon after hiring death camp Nazis, the Nazis literally used it in their concentration camps, to make the prisoners more docile. I have fluoride added to my water today, as do most Americans. Hmmm.

    The Nazi connection runs far deeper, too. Goebbels used Edward Bernays’s work in his propaganda efforts, and Bernays actually helped design the propaganda campaigns to addict women to tobacco, fluoridate water, and overthrow the Guatemalan government on behalf of the Rockefellers. I have several Rockefeller connections myself, and for the first time, I’ll reveal a little about my relative who was a CIA contract agent: he worked for Rockefeller interests. I may never reveal any more about that situation (to protect family members), but that revelation should be safe now. The Rockefellers helped take out Dennis more than once, beginning with wiping out the factory that he planned to use in Seattle (so Dennis had to build his own factory), and the final time was when Dennis was pursuing high-MPG technology.

    The first practical application of nuclear energy was gratuitously vaporizing two cities in a defeated nation that was trying to surrender, and at the same time as the USA was being mass-fluoridated and the witch hunts for “commies” were at their peak, the American government was trying to turn those nuclear swords into ploughshares, even though the initial euphoria had long since worn off in the USA. Hubertus Strughold was the godfather of MKUltra and other human experiment programs in the USA, and his protégé, Heinz Haber, was also Werner von Braun’s sidekick on a Disney show promoting space travel to children. Walt Disney and the Nazis were spiritual brethren, and Walt was an enthusiastic red-hunter who also endorsed Hollywood’s blacklist. While Walt hunted out commies, death camp Nazis were fine, and when Disney was asked to make a propaganda film about nuclear power, Haber was their man, who led the making of a Disney show that promoted nuclear energy, and Haber then wrote a children’s book on the wonders of nuclear energy. The Wikipedia article on Paperclip is a whitewash, which I suppose is fitting, as Paperclip itself was a whitewash of death camp Nazis.

    Of course, Allen Dulles very actively covered up JFK’s murder and likely had a hand in it. JFK was trying to end the Cold War, and for that, among other affronts to corporate America, he had to go. Although it is no secret, it has largely disappeared down the Memory Hole that JFK proposed a joint mission to the Moon with the Soviets soon before his murder, which would have ended the Space Race. With JFK’s murder, Johnson not only escalated the Space Race, but he also escalated the low-level Vietnam imperial conflict into an outright genocide, and I spent a year in Houston during all of that, as Mission Control was one of Johnson’s pork barrel projects. I am not writing as a disinterested scholar, but as somebody whose life was profoundly affected by Rockefeller machinations. Of course, it goes far higher than that, too. The highest councils on Earth wondered what to do about us, and both the “White Hats” and “Black Hats” intervened multiple times.

    Time for work.

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    Hi Paul:

    I am happy to discuss Gary’s little story on the JFK hit. You can take it to the bank that Gary recounted the John Tower conversation to the best of his recollection. Being a policemen and detective, Gary tried to solve the crime, and his encounters with Jack Ruby are highly germane to the JFK hit. Ruby was no two-bit nightclub owner.

    For me, the lesson of the JFK hit is not so much who did it, although I believe that it likely came from the Dulles/CIA milieu, but that the entire “investigation” was a whitewash from the beginning, to frame the “patsy” and make it go away ASAP. Every president since JFK was a puppet and knew it, although somewhat ironically, Trump may not have figured it out yet. Like JFK, he came from a rich background, so did not have to sell his soul to play the game. If Trump has not figured it out yet, he may be beginning to suspect.

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    Every president since JFK was a puppet and knew it, although somewhat ironically, Trump may not have figured it out yet. Like JFK, he came from a rich background, so did not have to sell his soul to play the game.
    Perhaps, rather than taking on almost all of the "deep state" as JFK seemed to be doing, Trump is the front man for part of the deep state, as a division has formed, which will make America less "exceptional", and which is imposing an existential crisis on the Rockefeller-Bush-Clinton-Obama-CIA-DOJ-CNN-MSNBC-NYTimes-WashPost-PetroNarcoDollar branch of the deep state.

    I expect that the Banksters of Babylon, Merchants of Venice, and Elders of Zion will do just fine, and that the NSA and US Military are providing key support, "on the ground", and in the air, to Trump in the immediate present. Indeed, I expect that the really deep state orchestrates periodic changes of the guard in the more visible deep state, just to ensure that no one gets too uppity.

    I also expect that Trump came into his current job with a pretty good idea of the challenges he would be facing, whereas Kennedy (JFK) had to undertake a greater amount of "on the job training". On the job training in that viper pit known as Washington is not for the faint of heart.

    Trump has been thinking about the Presidency for many years now, and if the latest Qanon scuttlebutt (not Q himself, but some of his presenters and researchers, aka bakers and autists) has any basis, may be getting some serious behind the scenes support from the Kennedy's, perhaps even including from the not so dead after all JFK Jr.
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    Thanks Paul:

    While I thought of a reply, it came to me to create a table of Epochs (a little different from this one), and what features of humanity have existed in each, and what will and won’t be in the Fifth Epoch. It will be in my essay update. Something like that had been rolling around in my mind for some time, but your post spurred me to crystallize my thinking, and that table was born. Thanks.

    Over the years, I have been presented with the idea that JFK faked his own death, that he survived and lived in an invalid state on a ship that cruised the Atlantic, and other wacky ideas. I have no idea what the Kennedy clan’s role is today, other than grasping at the straws of their lost glory.

    Yes, there are layers of players and their machinations, and I made a rough outline of the hierarchy earlier this year, but the point of my work is that all of it will become obsolete in the Fifth Epoch. No more elites and their games. It will no longer make sense. The reign of the psychopaths will end. No politician is going to help, no “royal family,” and the like, as they are all beholden to the idea of elite rule. Only when the foundation changes, which has always been and always will be the energy issue, will this Epoch end.

    That table will show that races began in the Second Epoch (and continued diversifying in the Third), but will end in the Fifth. Cities and elites began in the Third Epoch, and both will disappear in the Fifth, as will the exchange game, warfare, poverty, and other artifacts of scarcity. Making a dent in that direction is my life’s work, and we will see how it goes. I hope that I have 30 more good years in me, like Uncle Ed did, and maybe I’ll live to see us turn the corner.

    If that choir can be built, it won’t matter what any of the elites do. It will be Game Over, and they know it. That is why they have had the lid on so tightly.

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    Hi Robert:

    I certainly am not singing Trump’s praises, although he has been caught in the crossfire of a favorite American activity: demonizing Russia. In fact, if we credit Doug Caddy’s amazing reporting of what E. Howard Hunt said, and I do, the last straw for taking out JFK was his getting too cozy with the Soviets, as he tried to end the Cold War. I’ll buy that, but I also think that the “alien presence” reason was just an excuse, and I suspect that the entire “alien presence” issue was related to JFK’s proposing a joint mission to the Moon with the Soviet Union, which would effectively end the Space Race and go a long way toward ending the Cold War. The assassins had to have known that the Soviets knew plenty themselves. I doubt that it matters much who the president is, but as we both note, Trump is not as much of a creature of special interests as every president since JFK was.

    On Carter, that is a near and dear subject. Brian O’Leary was Mo Udall’s speechwriter, and Udall was in the lead for the nomination until Carter came out of nowhere, with his Rockefeller (CFR) backing, and it looks like Carter stole Brian’s energy policy. The energy crisis is what got me and most of my fellow travelers pursuing the energy issue, which eventually led us to free energy. Free energy technology is likely older than I am. You can take that to the bank.

    David Rockefeller handpicked all presidents since JFK. Carter’s energy policy is what allowed Dennis to take his run at carpeting the USA with the world’s best heating system. Carter’s “human rights” stance was phony, but what else is new for American politicians? But Carter gets points for raising the UFO issue, as Daniel Sheehan’s amazing testimony shows. The way that I heard it, Carter was eventually threatened into silence, after he fired Bush the First from the CIA for stonewalling him on the UFO issue.

    I have published my rough estimation of how the world’s power structure looks, and American presidents are down several levels. During my adventures, we attracted attention from the top, and it wasn’t much fun. My life and the lives of those around me were destroyed, and Dennis should not have survived. I can’t regret any of it, but don’t want to come close to events like those again. My sense is that JFK ran afoul of the big interests. Not at the very top, but more like the national-imperial power structure. I think that Rockefeller interests were involved, which also took us out more than once, and the most recent time, David himself got involved.

    Thanks Joe. Gary is in my pantheon, and whatever he reported that he witnessed, you can take that to the bank. His encounters with Ruby, due to his surveillance of Mickey Cohen (and some of Gary’s Cohen anecdotes were hilarious) showed that Ruby was far from a small-time loser (Cohen’s attorney became Ruby’s attorney), and I consider his official portrayal about as faithful to the facts as portraying Oswald as some lone nut commie. I have seen attempts to discredit Gary by challenging his attempts to solve the crime, or how his book was not scholarly, but those attempts miss the point, probably intentionally, of Gary’s reporting. You can take his reporting of the John Tower conversation to the bank, but when Gary attempts to connect the dots, challenging his ideas is very appropriate, but his ideas are also not easy to dismiss.

    Specifically, Gary thought that the Jewish mob was behind the JFK hit. Well, Ruby was a Jewish mobster, so right there, Gary’s idea has some merit (Michael Piper Collins wrote a book to that effect, and Gary told me that he gave Collins the idea). I don’t know what Gary’s evidence was, but Gary thought that Arlen Specter monitored Hunt’s grand plan and coordinated the real hit, as it interposed the fake one. We all know “Magic Bullet” Specter’s role in the Warren Commission. Ruby’s phone activity was really something, which RFK and others thought highly peculiar for a small-time loser. Gary noted a call from Jewish mobsters in Ventura County at the time of the JFK hit, and Gary thought that it was significant. I sure don’t know and, to me, that is all ancillary to what Gary wrote that he witnessed. Gary constantly waged lawsuits against the Jewish mobsters, trying to get his evidence on the record. I thought that it was pretty amazing for Doug Caddy to know just the gangster judge that I was writing about, because of a case from the 1970s. You don’t take on people like that, waging lawsuits and risking your life, and make stuff up. Gary told me that the only thing that kept him alive was always obeying the law, or they would have had a handy excuse to murder him.

    For the record, Gary wrote his book while working at his gas station and store, drafting it between customers, and his wife typed it up. After his career was wiped out because he refused to frame people (he was made the offer he could not refuse), that store became his retirement nest egg. I know all too well the kind of situation that Gary was in, trying to survive the evil activities directed at him, and when critics noted that he spelled Dealey Plaza incorrectly in his book, as a way to discredit him, they don’t get it. To me, that makes Gary’s book even more credible, knowing how he wrote it. And the gangsters who run Ventura County stole Gary’s store from him, too, and he died destitute, in exile, in Oregon, with a warrant for his wife’s arrest in California, as she refused to hand over the deed after they stole his store. As I learned the hard way, they can just make it up as they go.

    For the record, I think that the Jewish mob was involved, but they were not the masterminds. They were part of the muscle for the hit, and the shooter teams were likely a CIA/mob operation, and Ruby’s job was silencing Oswald, who probably should have been killed immediately after the JFK hit, but survived, so Ruby had to finish the job, with a suicidal hit on national TV. Oswald knew way too much, and had to be silenced ASAP. That is my take on it.

    Best,

    Wade
    Last edited by Wade Frazier; 16th August 2023 at 18:43.
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