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    I don't dispute that at all. I just think that many people aren't going to resonate (and will therefore avoid ALL the info altogether) with the accounts about Enki, the Divine Feminine, etc., but could still benefit from the practical information about narcissism, healing etc.. People just can't be pushed when it comes to looking into the metaphysical.
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    I've watched the whole series of videos now and found #4,5,6 and 7 to have very helpful info. The metaphysical stuff about the Divine Feminine, Enki, etc. didn't really do much for me (there are so many theories about all that, and none of them provable).
    I think it would be better to keep that separate from the very practical and useful information about narcissism/codependency and how to heal, so that a wider audience can be reached.
    I think many people who are seeking to understand narcissism can benefit, but if they encounter the metaphysical info, it will turn many away.
    I have to agree with Bluegreen, Soullight, etc. about the mechanical voice--it was off-putting for me, as is the dreary background music.
    I think a simple human voice would be so much better.
    Thank you for your suggestions. Speaking only for myself, and I acknowledge that others have a different perspective, there is no separation between the physical and metaphysical. From my experience with healing from this abuse, the soul is at the core of the trauma and the fragmentation. To heal the soul, is to heal the mind, is to heal the body, and once all of these facets of ourselves begin to heal and become integrated all that remains is unlimited potential. Others have different experiences and I respect that. I appreciate your point of view as I'm sure there are many others who feel the same.
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    Hoping Wes & Ariel are not discouraged by our reservations. I found the information worthwhile and valuable, distilled and articulated in an understandable manner. Looking forward to the continued development of the series.

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    Hi Bluegreen! On the contrary, both Ariel and I feel very inspired by your comments. We highly value all your inputs, We have full intentions to complete our project, if it's even possible to complete a project like this; there is no end to learning, and we want to share what we have dotted together, so others can decide whether there is something in it they can take to heart as well.

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    Wes, I'm glad to finally "meet" you.

    I'm near the end of Volume 2 but I've watched all the videos and read the AI book (which I found to be excellent). So as usual, I'm way behind the rest of the pack. But the nickname ("Turtle") I acquired as a baby seems to fit me. As you may recall, in the race with the hare, the turtle won due to sheer persistence.

    Thank you for sharing your many insights with us.
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    Quote Posted by Jay Freeman (here)
    Wes, I'm glad to finally "meet" you.

    I'm near the end of Volume 2 but I've watched all the videos and read the AI book (which I found to be excellent). So as usual, I'm way behind the rest of the pack. But the nickname ("Turtle") I acquired as a baby seems to fit me. As you may recall, in the race with the hare, the turtle won due to sheer persistence.

    Thank you for sharing your many insights with us.
    LOL. I love the humor in this post mixed with some serious wisdom. The story about the turtle and the hare works as a metaphor in many ways. You are right on!

    Thanks, Jay!
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    Well Wes, your WWP really did a number on me, you really messed me up.
    Ha, so glad I felt pushed to read it. It builds, you change your mind, it's like your thinking outloud and putting it on paper.
    I can't say how your work has changed me, really changed me in a good way.
    And thanks for you and Ariel's work on this next project.
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    Although I found the info about narcissism in videos 4,5, 6 & 7 to be very helpful, the views expressed about Enki, etc. in the other videos, and especially in the later ones are so woo woo, I think this thread might actually belong more in the Members Only Channeled and Other Controversial Material subforum. No mention is made of influences from other ET worlds, and it sounds as if Wes thinks Orion is the only ET influence that matters, so it contradicts what many whistleblowers have been saying. There are also a lot of grammatical errors in the text, which makes it appear unprofessional.
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    Wes and Ariel's message in these videos is very important. They really have touched home for me.

    My mother was a narcissist and my father a silent alcoholic. I was terrorized by my mother and became the fixer to minimize the chaos in the household. My sister was the pleaser. I saw her jump through hoops to please my mother and I was not even going to try. My sister died of anorexia when she was 36.

    Then I married a narcissist and the cycle was continuing.

    It is very important to work through the childhood trauma that Wes and Ariel discuss in the videos. After five years of working through them with a psychologist I believe I have pieced back together many fractures those trauma's caused. Bill Ryan even helped me through one when I visited him in Ecuador in 2016. It was hard work, but I feel at peace with it all now. I am no longer being triggered and I find myself just observing and identifying the behaivors of narcissists.

    Instead of feeling unworthy and running around volunteering until I drop. I am no longer proving my worthiness of love. I love myself and am loved by many in my community.

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    Well, Jean-Marie....You are loved in THIS community, that's for sure!! It is very encouraging to see how you have worked through all you have lived through!

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    Wes and Ariel,
    I have appreciated all the information that you have provided in the 12 videos. Can you share what your plans are? Will there be more videos?

    Thank you!

    -jean-marie

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    Quote Posted by Jean-Marie (here)
    Wes and Ariel,
    I have appreciated all the information that you have provided in the 12 videos. Can you share what your plans are? Will there be more videos?

    Thank you!

    -jean-marie
    First, let me say Thank you for sharing your personal experience. I appreciate you very much and your willingness to be open!

    There is still so much we want to share. ! There will be many more videos. Our plan is to help people understand how this works, what affect it has (on a physical as well as a soul level), how we disengage from this energy-stealing system and stop sustaining it, how to heal on a soul level (to heal the soul is to heal the body), and the wonderful transformation that happens when you begin to become more and more whole (integrating the wounded fragments) and acting consciously rather than re-actively on a sub-conscious level. Thoughts/intentions are what create your own personal reality, and you begin to see this in a BIG way. It's been an amazing process of learning, healing, and creation. Narcissism is the starting point because this is what prevents us from reaching and using our full potential. Everything is connected, and it's only just begun.

    Thank you, again.
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    Hello Wes and Ariel,

    I'm new to the forum but not to your work, since I've almost read the whole WWP (currently struggling through level 5 though, that's so dense). Just wanted to thank you for the amazing insights and curiosity your material has sparked in me, and your continuous work as well. I've listened to the new videos and find them very empowering and inspired. Hopefully you continue reading the text as in the last one, it's good to hear your voice and not the synthetic robot (especially with the nice swedish accent)

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    Hello Wes and Ariel,

    I'm new to the forum but not to your work, since I've almost read the whole WWP (currently struggling through level 5 though, that's so dense). Just wanted to thank you for the amazing insights and curiosity your material has sparked in me, and your continuous work as well. I've listened to the new videos and find them very empowering and inspired. Hopefully you continue reading the text as in the last one, it's good to hear your voice and not the synthetic robot (especially with the nice swedish accent)
    Hi Khadija! Yes, I will continue narrating the videos from now on with my Swedish accent and all . I am happy to hear that you have been inspired by the WPP and our videos! We have some interesting ones coming up now, and a new video, Video 16, will be posted today.
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    Hi Wes

    I am currently reading Joe Vitale's book "Zero Limits" where he explains the Ho'oponopono practice.
    In this book Joe states the importance to love everybody and don't focus on intentions.
    Is this false data in disguise?

    You state on your videos to not love everbody and by use of your intentions you determine your course.

    Ho'oponopono states to take 100% responsibility what ever enters one's sphere of reality and this I can think with. To love anybody one encounters is a bit difficult to comprehend.
    Wouldn't it be sufficient to simply be wiling to look at any problem without any judgement or bias?

    When you say, do not love everyone - does this only apply to narcissists?
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    Hi Wes

    I am currently reading Joe Vitale's book "Zero Limits" where he explains the Ho'oponopono practice.
    In this book Joe states the importance to love everybody and don't focus on intentions.
    Is this false data in disguise?

    You state on your videos to not love everbody and by use of your intentions you determine your course.

    Ho'oponopono states to take 100% responsibility what ever enters one's sphere of reality and this I can think with. To love anybody one encounters is a bit difficult to comprehend.
    Wouldn't it be sufficient to simply be wiling to look at any problem without any judgement or bias?

    When you say, do not love everyone - does this only apply to narcissists?
    Hi, devplan

    I wrote the article about Love in this particular video, so I will answer your question and Wes can also comment if he wants to add more from his perspective. I am not familiar with the Ho'oponopono practice. Thank you for mentioning it. I will certainly look into it. I can't comment on whether or not it is false data. Everyone has an interpretation of things based on their own personal experiences and this may be the insights and conclusions of Mr. Vitale. If this is what he has experienced, then it is certainly valid and worth consideration.

    From what you have written, I would agree with this as an overall concept. When I wrote the article stating that we shouldn't love everyone, I was speaking specifically on the dangers of loving narcissists, yes. I apologize that the concept was not clearly stated and easily understandable.
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    I had not been keeping up with the videos, but today I took in this one:

    ...and was blown away. I used the expression "took in" because I was able to do that without reservation as it was so pure and logical and obviously coming from someone who has experienced what was being described, or it could not have come through in such an easy to assimilate form. THANK YOU Wes! And thanks for using your own voice instead of a robot. Your accent was no problem for me at all. Now I see I have some backtracking to do.
    Wes, have you done any talks on addictions and obsessive compulsion? Thanks again.
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    Hello Wes and Ariel,

    I'm new to the forum but not to your work, since I've almost read the whole WWP (currently struggling through level 5 though, that's so dense). Just wanted to thank you for the amazing insights and curiosity your material has sparked in me, and your continuous work as well. I've listened to the new videos and find them very empowering and inspired. Hopefully you continue reading the text as in the last one, it's good to hear your voice and not the synthetic robot (especially with the nice swedish accent)
    Hi Khadija! Yes, I will continue narrating the videos from now on with my Swedish accent and all . I am happy to hear that you have been inspired by the WPP and our videos! We have some interesting ones coming up now, and a new video, Video 16, will be posted today.
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    Hi Onawah! Great thanks for your very nice comment! That makes our day!! Yes, Ariel and I discuss and research everything together, and sometimes I write the articles that we present in our videos, and sometimes she does. This particular one was written by Ariel.

    We haven't posted anything specifically about addiction, OCD, ADD, and ADHD yet. I am sure we will bring these "disorders" up as well as we move on. They are all related to narcissism/codependency, as you probably suspected. OCD is something that can develop on both sides of the spectrum, but is more commonly connected with narcissism. In fact, codependents mimic narcissists as well as narcissists mimic codependents--they are each other's mirrors. Therefore, OCD by itself doesn't qualify a person as one or the other. In order to distinguish, one would need to look at the rest of the person's attributes as well.

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    I am looking forward to hearing more on the subject. Thanks Wes and Ariel.
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    Bit of a belated comment but would like to thank Wes and Ariel for simplifying this rather complex predicament we find ourselves in.

    I’ve recently come out of hospital from hip surgery having suffered arthritic pain for years (likely caused by MMR vaccine - my, they go to any lengths) which can drag you down now and again – pain free at last.

    I came out of hospital this Monday and was compelled to type Wes Penre into my search engine for some reason so have now started to watch your video series which I find extremely helpful in connecting some of the important dots we all need to consider.

    All I can say is thank you for sharing your dedicated and detailed research on these subjects it is much appreciated – I’m with you all the way.

    Until much of humanity begins to think for themselves and question the program we are in for a rough ride as we drag ourselves free from this rogue AI program which infects the best of us. I suppose Jesus might be a good example of the perfect human !

    As they say, one step at a time
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