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    Default Re: The Qanon posts, and associated US political analysis

    Here's a good visual to use when watching the awesome video that Norman shared here.

    It helped my mind focus on some of the names they were using.



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    Default Re: The Qanon posts, and associated US political analysis

    Latest "Q" posts, #1865 - 1878, click to enlarge images or go directly to link below - I'll add to this post if more pop up over the next few hours

    https://qanon.app/

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    Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: d2c0b2 No.2599748 📁
    Aug 14 2018 16:42:13 (EST) NEW

    Anonymous ID: 810ecf No.2599082 📁
    Aug 14 2018 15:43:22 (EST) NEW
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    Note to AJ shills. Nobody hacks a site and brings it down, but publishes a useful and informative redirect page… it’s ****ing obvious this is a staged attack. Why am I not surprised?


    >>2599082
    Actors will act.
    We target NBC.
    NBC targets Q.
    Strategic?
    We are in control.
    Q
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    1866

    Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: 939e10 No.2599937 📁
    Aug 14 2018 16:53:36 (EST) NEW
    >>2599779
    Important takeaway.
    We've had the ball the entire time.
    Think offense.
    Why did POTUS move his entire operation out of TT the DAY AFTER the ADM ROGERS [SCIF] MEETING?
    The WORLD is WATCHING.
    The WORLD is HERE.
    EYES ON.
    Q
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    1867

    Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: 939e10 No.2600026 📁
    Aug 14 2018 16:57:30 (EST) NEW

    Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: 939e10 No.2599937 📁
    Aug 14 2018 16:53:36 (EST) NEW
    >>2599779
    Important takeaway.
    We've had the ball the entire time.
    Think offense.
    Why did POTUS move his entire operation out of TT the DAY AFTER the ADM ROGERS [SCIF] MEETING?
    The WORLD is WATCHING.
    The WORLD is HERE.
    EYES ON.
    Q

    >>2599937
    They are in full blown panic mode.
    Enjoy the show.
    Each FAKE NEWS article written or attack is a badge of honor - military grade.
    Q
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    1868

    Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: 939e10 No.2600089 📁
    Aug 14 2018 16:59:57 (EST) NEW

    Anonymous ID: 8b2820 No.2600020 📁
    Aug 14 2018 16:57:25 (EST) NEW
    >>2599937
    DOJ airplane in Arkansas?

    >>2600020
    Do not link to [CF].
    [CF] docs kept in NYC>>UT.
    Q
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    1869

    Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: 939e10 No.2600470 📁
    Aug 14 2018 17:15:47 (EST) NEW

    Anonymous ID: f7c965 No.2600205 📁
    Aug 14 2018 17:04:07 (EST) NEW
    >>2600089
    Are autists hot or cold on the plane message in Seattle or not?

    WAY too much speculation…


    >>2600205
    Calculate probability.
    What is the mathematical probability that a rogue missile launched at/near the runaway plane?
    Was he a trained pilot?
    How fast did intercept occur?
    Think missile intercept.
    Think aircraft.
    Outside of standard deviation?
    Do people travel to islands to [Fish]?
    How many billionaires own islands?
    How many billionaires live on islands?
    [GEO-T]
    CLANDESTINE.
    Q
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    1870

    Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: 58bc71 No.2600716 📁
    Aug 14 2018 17:31:12 (EST) NEW
    >>2600476
    Not seen since WL Podesta dump?
    Similar in nature to attacks on POTUS?
    Think waves.
    Think coordinated.
    Think ALL outlets utilized + FAKES [Fake MAGA]
    Foreign & Domestic.
    Are the emails in the WL Podesta dump AUTH?
    Has POTUS made a statement as PRESIDENT that hasn't ended up being TRUE AND CORRECT?
    DESTROY THE NARRATIVE.
    This is MUCH BIGGER than even AUTISTS can imagine (MUCH BIGGER!).
    REPEATS necessary.
    5,000+ new/day.
    WELCOME TO THE AWAKENING.
    FREE INFORMATION.
    POWER BACK TO THE PEOPLE.
    WITH KNOWLEDGE COMES POWER.
    Q
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    1871

    Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: 58bc71 No.2601101 📁
    Aug 14 2018 17:46:46 (EST) NEW
    Ex 1.1
    (MOS)
    / \
    (Alt + US Media) (US Politicians)
    / \
    (…………………..)(…………………….)
    Those who scream the loudest….
    Find the connections.
    1:1:1:1
    Primary>>AffiliateA>>AffiliateB>>AffiliateC>>
    Marching to the same beat?
    Coincidence?
    Logical thinking.
    Q
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    1872

    Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: 58bc71 No.2601331 📁
    Aug 14 2018 17:55:00 (EST) NEW

    Anonymous ID: 46faed No.2601052 📁
    Aug 14 2018 17:44:57 (EST) NEW
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    >>2601020
    cst.

    Police from several suburban municipalities are staging in the parking lot of Cedarbrook Plaza. Early reports say there’s an active shooter in a Cheltenham Walmart

    twitter.com/Vellastrations/status/1029497743117570050


    >>2601052
    Do you believe in coincidences?
    CA 'light fires' dropped.
    Next: Man [caught] who follows 'Q'
    Think previous: BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM
    What happened?
    Random coincidences?
    Conspiracy?
    Re_read drops re: SET UP.
    Q
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    1873

    Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: 58bc71 No.2601407 📁
    Aug 14 2018 17:58:27 (EST) NEW

    Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: 58bc71 No.2601331 📁
    Aug 14 2018 17:55:00 (EST) NEW
    >>2601052
    Do you believe in coincidences?
    CA 'light fires' dropped.
    Next: Man [caught] who follows 'Q'
    Think previous: BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM
    What happened?
    Random coincidences?
    Conspiracy?
    Re_read drops re: SET UP.
    Q


    >>2601331
    Armed man Hoover Dam re: link to Q?
    They will not stop.
    Nothing to see here.
    Ask yourself - WHY?
    Q
    Q
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    1874

    Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: 358cd7 No.2601479 📁
    Aug 14 2018 18:03:30 (EST) NEW
    >>2601407
    SEC TEST.
    [PING]
    DEFEND_B720-1A
    Q
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    1875

    Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: 358cd7 No.2601546 📁
    Aug 14 2018 18:05:52 (EST) NEW

    Anonymous ID: 08ea3e No.2601488 📁
    Aug 14 2018 18:04:08 (EST) NEW
    >>2601479
    confirm double Q was typo??


    >>2601488
    Confirmed.
    Q
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    1876

    Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: ab9df5 No.2602749 📁
    Aug 14 2018 19:02:45 (EST)
    GMAIL DRAFTS
    [GOOG SAFEGUARDED HIGHEST LEVEL [Access [3-GOOG] - SERVER ROUTING - NON US BASED]
    [Sample]

    Wet Work?
    Human Trafficking?
    Sharing of ICE/Border Patrol C-INTEL [schedules] to SAFEGUARD? EXIT/ENTRANCE?
    Sharing of FBI C-INTEL to SAFEGUARD PRIV-OPs?
    Sharing of DOJ 'Where We Stand' investigation(s) & Guide to OVERCOME-DISMISS-WIN?
    Transfer of money instructions to LEFT ORGS>>>DOJ Settlements?
    Off-book meetings?
    Play dates?
    Stand down orders?
    Non-action orders?
    Muslim Brotherhood?
    Cross coord w/ UK assets / O-PRO in SIS/UK-P?
    Coord w/ foreign actors for payment/money disperse?
    Coord w/ AID ORGS for [illegal] plans?
    HAM radio instructions if remote-5?
    ……………..
    Why did ES make public NSA CLAS tools?
    Think XKeyscore + PRISM specifically.
    Was such tech kept from 'elected' officials?
    Was such tech kept from 'elected' directors?
    Why was NO SUCH AGENCY created?
    Think SIGINT.
    What ADVANTAGES exist to BIG TECH, other ABC off/on agencies, elected officials, CEOs, FOREIGN ADVERSARIES etc. if such information is learned?
    What price are you (the PUBLIC) willing to pay?
    Did you ever play HIDE-AND-SEEK?
    Q
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    1877

    Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: 0c531f No.2603103 📁
    Aug 14 2018 19:22:15 (EST) NEW
    >>2602749
    https://apnews.com/828aefab64d4411ba...r-not📁
    [SIRI]
    FB listens [even after you remove app].
    TWITTER GEO-T/L
    You are under constant tracking/surveillance.
    DARPA.
    Q
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    1878

    Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: 0c531f No.2603411 📁
    Aug 14 2018 19:37:13 (EST) NEW
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/08/1....html📁
    SICK & DISGUSTING.
    Judge Sarah Backus?
    Q
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    I'd need Paul to speak up on this, but my thinking is that one way to respond to a DOS barrage is to write a bit of code that cancels all page requests etc etc and replaces them with a simple static page response.


    I don't know how to actually do that but it makes sense to me. If the attack means no one can find what they are looking for, there's no great loss, is there?


    In fact, it's quite a helpful thing to do.


    I just don't know if that's even possible.
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    Quote Posted by mojo (here)
    Theres a few homes on Ketron Island. Hopefully we can find out more about the crash sight. After checking the island on google earth this spot on the north end seemed to be a likely location. We can hopefully find real evidence.
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    Head of a snake anyone?
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    Great catch Star!...

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    Quote Posted by Star Mariner (here)



    Head of a snake anyone?
    It's that unicorn again!


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    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
    According to sources, the underground hideout facilitated a submarine dock where a decommissioned Sturgeon-class nuclear submarine was being kept.

    [ ... Anon post continues ... ]
    That appears to come from this page. I've pasted the entire thing.

    Do read it to the very end!

    (Disclaimer: The following is an overview of the current situation based on intelligence leaks received from several sources which may or may not accurate. Other confirmed sources may also be included in this overview.)

    New information about the Q400 aircraft crash on Ketron Island has emerged.

    The plane crash on the island was a cover for an aerial attack.
    ...

    Meanwhile ...

    Every soul on this planet will rise to Christ Consciousness.

    The arrival of a new era of humanity is on the horizon.
    As KiwiElf notes, various portions of this page that Bill quotes could have, for the most part (but not the entire part) come from many posts in recent days (including some of my own posts.)

    Mixing truth and falsehood, sensible and ridiculous, the obvious with the obfuscated, ... happens all the time.

    Most often this mixing happens because the thoughts of the author are a mix of these opposites. Sometimes, the mixing happens more deliberately, with the intention to confuse.

    Regardless of the mental state of the author of the page that Bill quotes, the effects on the audience vary. Portions of such mixes are often not even noticed by some... minds wander, eyes skim, and cats command. Sometimes the presence of what is false, ridiculous, or obfuscated will tend to discredit the accompanying portions that were otherwise more true, sensible or obvious. Sometimes the opposite occurs, and the presence of what is true, sensible or obvious will add credibility to the accompanying portions that were otherwise more false, ridiculous or obfuscated.

    My current impression is that, for Bill, the "Meanwhile ..." portion at the end of the page that Bill quotes was ridiculous, and that that ridiculous portion further discredited the preceding portions of the post.

    Others of us, rather like dumpster diving homeless people (which us truth seekers can sympathize with, as we sift through all manner of truth, lies, confusions, and propaganda, looking for nuggets of truth), are less fussy. We pick and choose, based on our own ever shifting perceptions, practicalities, limitations, necessities, instincts, abilities, and rules of thumb, what seems good from what doesn't.

    "Proximity", such as judging what's next to B.S. to be less untrustworthy, or what is next to reliable testimony to be more trustworthy, is only one of many possible rules of thumb, and not always a particularly useful rule of thumb (especially when our propagandist enemies abuse our fondness for that rule of thumb to market their ideas and to discredit what gets in their way.)

    So, while Bill thought the entirety of what he quoted was to some degree discredited by its "Meanwhile ..." conclusions, I suspect that those conclusions were scarcely noticed by some of us (despite Bill pointing them out), and I suspect that those conclusions were rather ignored, as nonsensical non sequitur's, by others of us.

    (I am now wondering what portion of my potential audience will toss this post of mine into the discredited obfuscation pile. <grin>.)
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    Quote Posted by norman (here)
    I'd need Paul to speak up on this, but my thinking is that one way to respond to a DOS barrage is to write a bit of code that cancels all page requests etc etc and replaces them with a simple static page response.
    It's possible, quite possible.

    That's one of the several things that we do, on an automated and regular basis, to keep this forum running well.
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    Latest "Q" post 1877 (continued from previous - see above; there have been a ton of drops... and "Q" is still going - will start a new post with 1879 onward )

    https://qanon.app/
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    1877

    Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: 0c531f No.2603103 📁
    Aug 14 2018 19:22:15 (EST) NEW
    >>2602749
    https://apnews.com/828aefab64d4411ba...r-not📁
    [SIRI]
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    TWITTER GEO-T/L
    You are under constant tracking/surveillance.
    DARPA.
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    Article referenced above

    AP Exclusive: Google tracks your movements, like it or not


    https://apnews.com/828aefab64d4411ba...like-it-or-not

    SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — Google wants to know where you go so badly that it records your movements even when you explicitly tell it not to.

    An Associated Press investigation found that many Google services on Android devices and iPhones store your location data even if you’ve used a privacy setting that says it will prevent Google from doing so.

    Computer-science researchers at Princeton confirmed these findings at the AP’s request.

    For the most part, Google is upfront about asking permission to use your location information. An app like Google Maps will remind you to allow access to location if you use it for navigating. If you agree to let it record your location over time, Google Maps will display that history for you in a “timeline” that maps out your daily movements.

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    Storing your minute-by-minute travels carries privacy risks and has been used by police to determine the location of suspects — such as a warrant that police in Raleigh, North Carolina, served on Google last year to find devices near a murder scene. So the company lets you “pause” a setting called Location History.

    Google says that will prevent the company from remembering where you’ve been. Google’s support page on the subject states: “You can turn off Location History at any time. With Location History off, the places you go are no longer stored.”

    That isn’t true. Even with Location History paused, some Google apps automatically store time-stamped location data without asking. (It’s possible, although laborious, to delete it .)

    For example, Google stores a snapshot of where you are when you merely open its Maps app. Automatic daily weather updates on Android phones pinpoint roughly where you are. And some searches that have nothing to do with location, like “chocolate chip cookies,” or “kids science kits,” pinpoint your precise latitude and longitude — accurate to the square foot — and save it to your Google account.

    The privacy issue affects some two billion users of devices that run Google’s Android operating software and hundreds of millions of worldwide iPhone users who rely on Google for maps or search.

    Storing location data in violation of a user’s preferences is wrong, said Jonathan Mayer, a Princeton computer scientist and former chief technologist for the Federal Communications Commission’s enforcement bureau. A researcher from Mayer’s lab confirmed the AP’s findings on multiple Android devices; the AP conducted its own tests on several iPhones that found the same behavior.

    “If you’re going to allow users to turn off something called ‘Location History,’ then all the places where you maintain location history should be turned off,” Mayer said. “That seems like a pretty straightforward position to have.”

    Google says it is being perfectly clear.

    “There are a number of different ways that Google may use location to improve people’s experience, including: Location History, Web and App Activity, and through device-level Location Services,” a Google spokesperson said in a statement to the AP. “We provide clear descriptions of these tools, and robust controls so people can turn them on or off, and delete their histories at any time.”

    Google’s explanation did not convince several lawmakers.

    Sen. Mark Warner of Virginia told the AP it is “frustratingly common” for technology companies “to have corporate practices that diverge wildly from the totally reasonable expectations of their users,” and urged policies that would give users more control of their data. Rep. Frank Pallone of New Jersey called for “comprehensive consumer privacy and data security legislation” in the wake of the AP report.

    To stop Google from saving these location markers, the company says, users can turn off another setting, one that does not specifically reference location information. Called “Web and App Activity” and enabled by default, that setting stores a variety of information from Google apps and websites to your Google account.

    When paused, it will prevent activity on any device from being saved to your account. But leaving “Web & App Activity” on and turning “Location History” off only prevents Google from adding your movements to the “timeline,” its visualization of your daily travels. It does not stop Google’s collection of other location markers.

    You can delete these location markers by hand, but it’s a painstaking process since you have to select them individually, unless you want to delete all of your stored activity.

    You can see the stored location markers on a page in your Google account at myactivity.google.com, although they’re typically scattered under several different headers, many of which are unrelated to location.

    To demonstrate how powerful these other markers can be, the AP created a visual map of the movements of Princeton postdoctoral researcher Gunes Acar, who carried an Android phone with Location history off, and shared a record of his Google account.

    The map includes Acar’s train commute on two trips to New York and visits to The High Line park, Chelsea Market, Hell’s Kitchen, Central Park and Harlem. To protect his privacy, The AP didn’t plot the most telling and frequent marker — his home address.

    Huge tech companies are under increasing scrutiny over their data practices, following a series of privacy scandals at Facebook and new data-privacy rules recently adopted by the European Union. Last year, the business news site Quartz found that Google was tracking Android users by collecting the addresses of nearby cellphone towers even if all location services were off. Google changed the practice and insisted it never recorded the data anyway.

    Critics say Google’s insistence on tracking its users’ locations stems from its drive to boost advertising revenue.

    “They build advertising information out of data,” said Peter Lenz, the senior geospatial analyst at Dstillery, a rival advertising technology company. “More data for them presumably means more profit.”

    The AP learned of the issue from K. Shankari, a graduate researcher at UC Berkeley who studies the commuting patterns of volunteers in order to help urban planners. She noticed that her Android phone prompted her to rate a shopping trip to Kohl’s, even though she had turned Location History off.

    “So how did Google Maps know where I was?” she asked in a blog post .

    The AP wasn’t able to recreate Shankari’s experience exactly. But its attempts to do so revealed Google’s tracking. The findings disturbed her.

    “I am not opposed to background location tracking in principle,” she said. “It just really bothers me that it is not explicitly stated.”

    Google offers a more accurate description of how Location History actually works in a place you’d only see if you turn it off — a popup that appears when you “pause” Location History on your Google account webpage . There the company notes that “some location data may be saved as part of your activity on other Google services, like Search and Maps.”

    Google offers additional information in a popup that appears if you re-activate the “Web & App Activity” setting — an uncommon action for many users, since this setting is on by default. That popup states that, when active, the setting “saves the things you do on Google sites, apps, and services ... and associated information, like location.”

    Warnings when you’re about to turn Location History off via Android and iPhone device settings are more difficult to interpret. On Android, the popup explains that “places you go with your devices will stop being added to your Location History map.” On the iPhone, it simply reads, “None of your Google apps will be able to store location data in Location History.”

    The iPhone text is technically true if potentially misleading. With Location History off, Google Maps and other apps store your whereabouts in a section of your account called “My Activity,” not “Location History.”

    Since 2014, Google has let advertisers track the effectiveness of online ads at driving foot traffic , a feature that Google has said relies on user location histories.

    The company is pushing further into such location-aware tracking to drive ad revenue, which rose 20 percent last year to $95.4 billion. At a Google Marketing Live summit in July, Google executives unveiled a new tool called “local campaigns” that dynamically uses ads to boost in-person store visits. It says it can measure how well a campaign drove foot traffic with data pulled from Google users’ location histories.

    Google also says location records stored in My Activity are used to target ads. Ad buyers can target ads to specific locations — say, a mile radius around a particular landmark — and typically have to pay more to reach this narrower audience.

    While disabling “Web & App Activity” will stop Google from storing location markers, it also prevents Google from storing information generated by searches and other activity. That can limit the effectiveness of the Google Assistant, the company’s digital concierge.

    Sean O’Brien, a Yale Privacy Lab researcher with whom the AP shared its findings, said it is “disingenuous” for Google to continuously record these locations even when users disable Location History. “To me, it’s something people should know,” he said.

    ___

    AP Interactive: https://interactives.ap.org/google-location-tracking/

    ___

    Associated Press writers Alan Fram and Mary Clare Jalonick in Washington and Jonathan Drew in Raleigh, North Carolina, contributed to this report.
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    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    (I am now wondering what portion of my potential audience will toss this post of mine into the discredited obfuscation pile. <grin>.)

    Not me. <grin back>


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    Latest "Q" posts, #1865 - 1877, click to enlarge images or go directly to link below - I'll add to this post if more pop up over the next few hours

    https://qanon.app/

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    Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: d2c0b2 No.2599748 📁
    Aug 14 2018 16:42:13 (EST) NEW

    Anonymous ID: 810ecf No.2599082 📁
    Aug 14 2018 15:43:22 (EST) NEW
    38D67BC6-34F2-46AC-8420-BDC5449EB34F.png

    Attachment 38776

    Note to AJ shills. Nobody hacks a site and brings it down, but publishes a useful and informative redirect page… it’s ****ing obvious this is a staged attack. Why am I not surprised?
    Any interesting web site (even a modest one such as this Avalon forum) has multiple layers of hardware and/or software to handle incoming requests.

    If a web site is entirely taken over (completely hacked, including its public DNS records) then yes, it is unlikely that the hackers would publish a useful redirect page.

    However in most cases, including no doubt the attacks on InforWars.com, the rightful owner of the web site maintains control of at least the DNS records and the first front-end layers of the hardware and/or software that services each incoming request. In that case, if portions of the server that do the more serious work are overloaded or misbehaving, the web site can have one of the front-end layers send back a simple, but useful and informative, page instead, until the main services are restored and the incoming attack is blocked sufficiently.
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    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    Quote Posted by Bill Ryan (here)
    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
    According to sources, the underground hideout facilitated a submarine dock where a decommissioned Sturgeon-class nuclear submarine was being kept.

    [ ... Anon post continues ... ]
    That appears to come from this page. I've pasted the entire thing.

    Do read it to the very end!

    (Disclaimer: The following is an overview of the current situation based on intelligence leaks received from several sources which may or may not accurate. Other confirmed sources may also be included in this overview.)

    New information about the Q400 aircraft crash on Ketron Island has emerged.

    The plane crash on the island was a cover for an aerial attack.
    ...

    Meanwhile ...

    Every soul on this planet will rise to Christ Consciousness.

    The arrival of a new era of humanity is on the horizon.
    As KiwiElf notes, various portions of this page that Bill quotes could have, for the most part (but not the entire part) come from many posts in recent days (including some of my own posts.)

    Mixing truth and falsehood, sensible and ridiculous, the obvious with the obfuscated, ... happens all the time.

    Most often this mixing happens because the thoughts of the author are a mix of these opposites. Sometimes, the mixing happens more deliberately, with the intention to confuse.

    Regardless of the mental state of the author of the page that Bill quotes, the effects on the audience vary. Portions of such mixes are often not even noticed by some... minds wander, eyes skim, and cats command. Sometimes the presence of what is false, ridiculous, or obfuscated will tend to discredit the accompanying portions that were otherwise more true, sensible or obvious. Sometimes the opposite occurs, and the presence of what is true, sensible or obvious will add credibility to the accompanying portions that were otherwise more false, ridiculous or obfuscated.

    My current impression is that, for Bill, the "Meanwhile ..." portion at the end of the page that Bill quotes was ridiculous, and that that ridiculous portion further discredited the preceding portions of the post.

    Others of us, rather like dumpster diving homeless people (which us truth seekers can sympathize with, as we sift through all manner of truth, lies, confusions, and propaganda, looking for nuggets of truth), are less fussy. We pick and choose, based on our own ever shifting perceptions, practicalities, limitations, necessities, instincts, abilities, and rules of thumb, what seems good from what doesn't.

    "Proximity", such as judging what's next to B.S. to be less untrustworthy, or what is next to reliable testimony to be more trustworthy, is only one of many possible rules of thumb, and not always a particularly useful rule of thumb (especially when our propagandist enemies abuse our fondness for that rule of thumb to market their ideas and to discredit what gets in their way.)

    So, while Bill thought the entirety of what he quoted was to some degree discredited by its "Meanwhile ..." conclusions, I suspect that those conclusions were scarcely noticed by some of us (despite Bill pointing them out), and I suspect that those conclusions were rather ignored, as nonsensical non sequitur's, by others of us.

    (I am now wondering what portion of my potential audience will toss this post of mine into the discredited obfuscation pile. <grin>.)
    Paul, what I responded to was that Bill was claiming the page he linked to be the source of what KiwiElf shared. And/or the source document to Kiwielf's comment.

    It was neither.

    Then Bill, conflating HIS inaccurate source link to KiwiElfs comments, inaccurately discredited the sharing of information from 8 chan that KiwiElf posted.

    This seems to have been lost in your exposition on the matter. People skim and don't always catch the whole meaning.


    It's been an ongoing discussion on the chans for several days now. The article Bill linked, claiming it to be the source was published only today.

    I explained this more in the Plane thread. Essentially, the post KiwiElf shared was a baker, baking. That's when someone starts to summarize the main points that have been discussed on a topic. In this case, since the day the plane was stolen.

    And that summary and KiwiElf's comments DID NOT include the part that you said, Bill probably thought was ridiculous. (That was Ashtar Command's little add on to the reddit summary.)

    So, if what you say is true, his basis for ridicule is based on his own error of misidentifying the source of the information KiwiElf shared.
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    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
    Anonymous ID: f7c965 No.2600205 📁
    Aug 14 2018 17:04:07 (EST) NEW
    >>2600089
    Are autists hot or cold on the plane message in Seattle or not?

    WAY too much speculation…


    >>2600205
    Calculate probability.
    What is the mathematical probability that a rogue missile launched at/near the runaway plane?
    Was he a trained pilot?
    How fast did intercept occur?
    Think missile intercept.
    Think aircraft.
    Outside of standard deviation?
    Do people travel to islands to [Fish]?
    How many billionaires own islands?
    How many billionaires live on islands?
    [GEO-T]
    CLANDESTINE.
    Q
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    1870

    GeoT
    A Computer Program for Multicomponent Geothermometry and Geochemical Speciation


    But the GEO-T may also be referencing the Geo Tracking from FB and Google.
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    The Deep State Intelligence Is Not Going To Be Happy About What Just Happened - X22 Report Episode 1638b



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    Strzok was not fired because of tweets, he was fired for lying to congress.

    Jim Jordan sums it up when it comes to the FBI. The corporate media has had the unredacted FISA all along.

    A new NDAA is heading to the President and in it is a special section which will allow security clearance to be removed from intelligence personnel.

    The MSM is pushing censorship and trying to make their case why you shouldn't pay attention to certain people using social media.

    Iran say no war no negotiations.

    Syria begins to rebuild and open borders.

    "Q" drops more breadcrumbs, the deep state is in the middle of the storm.

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    Venezuela is preparing to use the El Petro for all its oil transactions, this will bypass US sanctions.

    The credit impulse is still in the negative territory, the central banks have taken their foot off the gas pedal and we are coasting towards the collapse.

    The world does not have to wait for another reserve currency, all countries need to do is use their own currencies.

    By doing this the dollar will not be in demand and the currency will begin to collapse which will have extreme repercussion on the US economy.

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    Thanks edina & Paul

    Word for word, exactly as I posted it from 8CHAN. (NOTE: the timestamp date on 8CHAN may differ depending where you are located & in which part of the world)

    https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/2596707.html#2597321

    (click to enlarge)


    Click image for larger version

Name:	Anon post 2597321.jpg
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    I might add that several "alternative websites" publish "Q" extracts of interest from the 8CHAN research boards - and put their own spin on it.
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    Latest "Q" post #1879 (there may be more to follow; I'll post them here)

    https://qanon.app/

    -----------------------------------------------------------
    1879

    Q !!mG7VJxZNCI ID: f074d6 No.2606371 📁
    Aug 14 2018 23:05:27 (EST) NEW
    https://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/08/1...-children.html
    House of GOD?
    Only the beginning.
    Those who you are taught to trust the most….
    Expect MANY MANY MANY similar reports to surface from around the world.
    IT GOES A LOT DEEPER.
    Connected.
    The choice to know will be yours.
    Q
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    EDIT: Late Addition
    -----------------------------------------------------------
    1880

    Q !!mG7VJxZNCI No.152 📁
    Aug 15 2018 00:01:13 (EST) NEW
    Haiti
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvTqqYCb-e8
    [Read very carefully]
    https://www.news.com.au/entertainmen...c48ed927127bc3
    "Child trafficking victims who’ve spent their formative years servicing the carnal desires of men, often foreigners, who are three, four, five or six times their age. Their madam tells me that many of their customers are western humanitarian workers who’ve come here to help rebuild Haiti after the recent run of natural disasters."
    The more you know…
    Q
    -----------------------------------------------------------
    1881

    Q !!mG7VJxZNCI No.153 📁
    Aug 15 2018 00:10:19 (EST) NEW

    Q !!mG7VJxZNCI No.152 📁
    Aug 15 2018 00:01:13 (EST) NEW
    Haiti
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvTqqYCb-e8
    [Read very carefully]
    https://www.news.com.au/entertainmen...c48ed927127bc3
    "Child trafficking victims who’ve spent their formative years servicing the carnal desires of men, often foreigners, who are three, four, five or six times their age. Their madam tells me that many of their customers are western humanitarian workers who’ve come here to help rebuild Haiti after the recent run of natural disasters."
    The more you know…
    Q


    >>152
    "This is far from a ‘vigilante group’; leading the team is ex-Department of Homeland Security special agent Tim Ballard, perhaps America’s foremost human trafficking expert. "The problem in Haiti is an international crisis,” Ballard explains. “With so many children displaced or orphaned during the recent earthquake and hurricane, recruiters moved quickly to sweep these children up. And the worst part of it all is that in many cases the clients are the foreigners who’ve come here to help, the NGO workers and the so-called humanitarians.”
    PURE EVIL.
    [[[[HUNTERS]]]] BECOME THE HUNTED.
    THE MORE YOU KNOW!!!!!
    Q
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    1882

    Q !!mG7VJxZNCI No.154 📁
    Aug 15 2018 00:26:08 (EST) NEW
    [NBC].png

    Name:  1882-1.jpg
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    https://www.bbc.com/news/election-us-2016-37826098
    Read very carefully.
    Q
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    1883

    Q !!mG7VJxZNCI No.155 📁
    Aug 15 2018 00:31:20 (EST) NEW
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2qIXXafxCQ
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JDVT-8tUfiE
    WE STAND TOGETHER.
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    Quote Posted by KiwiElf (here)
    So yep, I am creating a new version of their original file when I do my posts. (Paul generously increased my folder capacity for images but I try to cut the file size down wherever I can - in saying that, I've noticed I'm rapidly using it up! ).

    Mostly, I get the "Q" posts from https://qanon.app/

    Prior to that it was https://qanon.pub/

    ...which went down a while back.
    I'm familiar with the format, it's just that if Q had used not only your file name but the image itself, they would have identical file sizes. Q's original post had already been removed by the time I checked for it, but the images archived on the script sites saved it as the same file size as the previous one posted, which was a larger file size than the one you posted here. So the file name was the same as what you posted but the image itself wasn't. So that's what I was trying to figure out.

    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    This thread is currently running between 300 and 400 distinct visitors per day. This combines both guests and members. I counted all visits from a single IP in a single day as one visitor for that day.

    So far, this thread started in October 2017, it has had (as you noted) nearly a half million views, though that's often one person viewing (reloading) the thread multiple times in a day. This thread has had 63,417 distinct visitor-days, separate people (separate IP's, actually) on distinct days. Over the 292 days between 25 Oct 2017 and 13 Aug 2018, this works out to an average of 63,417/292 == 217 distinct visitors per day.
    Thanks Paul. So this thread is generating a fair amount of views, modest in comparison to 8chan and the script sites I'm sure, but still enough people overall to fill a football stadium, and growing.

    I find the chans difficult to navigate sometimes, especially the way threads fill up and are split off into additional threads.
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    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    Quote Posted by norman (here)
    I'd need Paul to speak up on this, but my thinking is that one way to respond to a DOS barrage is to write a bit of code that cancels all page requests etc etc and replaces them with a simple static page response.
    It's possible, quite possible.

    That's one of the several things that we do, on an automated and regular basis, to keep this forum running well.
    It would still ultimately require a response from the server, though. There's something I'm missing here. How does the server differentiate between a computer coming from a weaponized network of hundreds/thousands making all of these page requests, and some random guy browsing around and making the same request at the same time? Or is it just easier to handle the load when you're responding with a short script rather than trying to send out the whole page?

    Quote Posted by Paul (here)
    Any interesting web site (even a modest one such as this Avalon forum) has multiple layers of hardware and/or software to handle incoming requests.

    If a web site is entirely taken over (completely hacked, including its public DNS records) then yes, it is unlikely that the hackers would publish a useful redirect page.

    However in most cases, including no doubt the attacks on InforWars.com, the rightful owner of the web site maintains control of at least the DNS records and the first front-end layers of the hardware and/or software that services each incoming request. In that case, if portions of the server that do the more serious work are overloaded or misbehaving, the web site can have one of the front-end layers send back a simple, but useful and informative, page instead, until the main services are restored and the incoming attack is blocked sufficiently.
    Aha. Now I understand. It's a defense in depth using this layered approach. Thanks for the explanation, Paul. I should have read down a little further before responding! You can delete this whole post if you want.
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    Quote Posted by A Voice from the Mountains (here)
    I find the chans difficult to navigate sometimes, especially the way threads fill up and are split off into additional threads.
    If we had the kind of load that a 4chan or 8chan sees, we'd have to be splitting threads (and servers and admins) too <grin>.
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    Dan Duval is brilliant, he talks like an FBI insider.

    The following touches on:


    - Trump-Putin meetings & implications
    - How the Russia collusion narrative will collapse soon
    - The Russian Lawyer meeting with Manafort was likely a set up by the other side
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