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    Quote Posted by Praxis (here)
    He [US President Trump] is in direct control ...
    Please do understand and recognize, Praxis, that some of us here are of the view that the US President is not actually in such direct control of much of anything that matters, whatever might be written in the Constitution, laws, regulations or your posts entirely notwithstanding. Rather we think that deeper forces run beneath the people, institutions and laws of the US, and of other manifestations of the flow of power in our civilization.

    Presidents (and PM's, Kings, ...) are often more like the captain of a ship, in a major storm, with a crew that is half mutinous, way too many passengers for the life boats, and a broken rudder.

    It's easier to have discussions with others when they don't flat out deny any validity to one's own views.
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    The president is the conductor. The one directing how he wants things to go but he doesn't have access to most of the programs, data, or intelligence on many of the reports he signs off on because it's not for his eyes but those above him. So he signs based on advise from 'trusted' advisers that do have access or need to know. Hillary Clinton has a higher security clearance than our seating president based on what Kevin Shipp has said and Bill Benny among others. So even now she has access to information he can't have! How's that for creepy?
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    I would say our last president was more of a well-spoken teleprompter-reading, control-file-controlled sock-puppet putting a smiling face on growing America's corporate fascism and militarism.

    Current one feels a little different, but time will tell.

    The real power centers are so far above, presidents do tend to conduct but they are waving their wand directing the players from music written by other shadowy advisors/controllers it appears to me.
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    Quote Posted by mountain_jim (here)
    I would say our last president was more of a well-spoken teleprompter-reading, control-file-controlled sock-puppet putting a smiling face on growing America's corporate fascism and militarism.

    Current one feels a little different, but time will tell.

    The real power centers are so far above, presidents do tend to conduct but they are waving their wand directing the players from music written by other shadowy advisors/controllers it appears to me.
    Exactly! Making every president nothing other than a stage, or script handled conductor or actor as the case may be. When you see it for what it is it then makes perfect sense to select a reality TV star for the lead role.
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    There’s a couple quotes I always hold in mind when listening to a persons anti-Trump rhetoric.

    “Tyranny is the deliberate removal of nuance” - Albert Moysles

    “The hand that crushed the tyrant dead, became a tyrant in his stead” - William Blake

    Then the question asked is, if the people who want to see Trump impeached for being “literally Hitler” were successful, and they were put in Trumps position as President, would they do a better job than Trump is doing now, or would they crumble, be bent over the table and instantly turned into a puppet of several very menacing power interests who operate quietly behind the scenes?

    In the majority of cases, Trumps detractors would fall into the category of Wilhelm Reichs ‘Little Man’ Personality profile:

    https://www.amazon.co.uk/Listen-Litt.../dp/0374504016
    Quote Listen, Little Man! is a great physician's quiet talk to each one of us, the average human being, the Little Man. Written in 1946 in answer to the gossip and defamation that plagued his remarkable career, it tells how Reich watched, at first naively, then with amazement, and finally with horror, at what the Little Man does to himself; how he suffers and rebels; how he esteems his enemies and murders his friends; how, wherever he gains power as a "representative of the people," he misuses this power and makes it crueler than the power it has supplanted.

    Reich has us to look honestly at ourselves and to assume responsibility for our lives and for the great untapped potential that lies in the depth of human nature.
    And I’m not saying that to insult anyone because even I would crumble in that situation, with Kissinger and his goons pointing a gun at me in one hand, and offering me vast sums of cash to comply in the other, I’d be “OK, show me the money”, as much as it would pain me to comply with such despicable people, we wouldn’t really have many options for not doing so in that situation, unless you had the backing of influential power interest groups of your own on your side.

    It’s pointless blaming Trump for the elements in his administration that he has no control over. We first have to delineate within his administration who works for what power interest, which is why I find Lyndon LaRouche’s work so valuable (he’s been working at the highest levels of government for 50-60 years, and knows all the players, and who or what interest groups they represent)—LaRouche is 94 and still working to undermine the most corrosive aspects of the Empire and build a better world in its place—now that’s heroic!

    ~~~~~~~~~

    Walter Russell Mead (Yale man and CFR member) wrote a book called ‘Special Providence’, which discusses the 4 main factions that rule American policy. They all have their own interests and agendas, rarely agree on anything, and are all vying to take the reins of government to please opposing special interest groups.

    Catherine Austin Fitts discusses the 4 main personality types that work in government. ‘The Scorpions’, ‘The Pigs’, ‘The Scaredy Cats’ and ‘The Titanic Turners’:

    Scorpions represent the Neocons, like John Bolton, who are perpetual war hawks! The Pentagon pulls their strings, but as Walter Russel Mead tells us, the Pentagon isn’t really run by the President. It’s run by the old, continental, bloodline dynasties operating out of the UN in Europe. (The UN itself just being the institutionalised form of the British ‘East India Trading Company’). Pure ‘Skull n Bones’, mercantilistic, pirate, imperialism!

    The Pigs are the archaic, oligarchical, aristocracy. All they care about is ‘the bottom line’ profits, without regard for anyone else’s welfare or wellbeing. They represent the major banking families and old royal bloodlines. These are the ‘speculative capitalists’. They don’t care how they create debt in a country ‘war, immigration welfare, disease, destruction’ as long as they create as much debt as possible, so future generations are obliged to pay it off in a feudalistic manner, they’re happy. Groups like ‘The Pilgrims Society’, who set up the federal reserve are part of this group!

    The Scaredy Cats are the neoliberal, communist, tyrants...who feel so insecure on the inside, that they have to externalise a micromanaged control grid in society on the outside. Easily bullied and blackmailed, but present a polished veneer of beurocratic self-righteous idealism (even while their countries are crumbling into ruin and decay around them). These are the Zionist ideologues, puppets of the Pigs, or just ideologically blind imbeciles like Justin Trudeau and the immigration loving communists who run the European Union.

    The Titanic Turners are the ones—who, although still strive for control and power—do so with the understanding that; in order to be strong, you need to have a strong nation, with strong borders and a strong economy. These are the ‘Production capitalists.

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    I remember Catherine Austin Fitts in an interview discussing plans she’d made while she was still working in government, to try and turn America’s economy around. The person she was presenting her ideas to just flat out told her, “it’s too late, they’re not interested, they’ve given up on America”.

    My interpretation of that is that after the Kennedy Assassination, the productive capitalists tried turning the ship the around, but the other 3 groups became too entrenched. The Titanic Turners, like Lyndon LaRouche and his business affiliates, gave up on trying to make America great again, and took their ideas for productive capitalism to places like China and Russia, where their ideas found fertile ground. This however left the Neocons, the Zionists and the Pilgrims in charge of US foreign policy.

    For me, Trump seems to represent the interest groups of elements within at least 3 factions. I think the Pilgrims have seen the writing on the wall, the Zio-Con alliance (Zionist and Neocons), which was cemented with the PNAC agreement, are leading them into civilisational collapse (there’ll be no wealth for the pigs to plunder if they continue on the course they’re on). Also, factions within Zionism have recognised the mutually assured destruction of Israel and Iran in the Middle East, if they allow the UN to continue what they’ve been doing. This is causing a rift within the bloodline dynasties, and the Payseurs seem to be the ones getting exposed and thrown under the bus.

    The sands of change are also shifting within Judaism, with ‘Toranic’ Jews becoming more vocal with their Anti-Zionist sentiment, and beginning to apply pressure in the deep state machinery, standing up and saying no to their ‘Talmudic’ ideologically blinded brethren. The ‘Toranic’ Jews seem to be more Nationlistic and pledging loyalty to the countries they’re in, rather than working to usurp them. The Toranic Jews would rather see a strong Israël, that has influence in Russia and China’s new Silk Road Projects, than see the whole Muslim and Israeli Middle East evaporated in nuclear exchange (as per the plan of Albert Pike and the British Zionists in his World War 3 letter). Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump seem to have ties to this new Jewish movement within the Zionist community imo, and so while I don’t particularly trust them, I don’t think they’ll cause the collapse of Western civilisation or enslavement of humanity, like some pundits have claimed.

    This new alliance of Pilgrim bankers and Toranic Jewry, seem to be more aligned with the productive capitalist ‘Titanic Turners’—who fled the US for China and Russia—which has created a window of opportunity for the productive capitalists to return to the US and usurp power from the Ziocons (headed by the UN, Pentagon, Hillary Clinton and EU cabal).

    Trump is a man caught between several factions, trying to please as many power players as possible, while turning the Titanic in favour of the productive capitalists, as Thierry Meyssan over at Voltaire.net has been saying for some time.

    With that as some general context for understanding what’s going on in the world, Thierry Meyssan’s latest article should be held in mind, as per the importance of what the midterms next month could represent:

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    International relations: the calm before the storm?
    All international problems are currently suspended, awaiting the results of the US mid-term elections. The partisans of the old international order are gambling on a change of majority in Congress and a rapid destitution of President Trump. If the man in the White House holds fast, the protagonists of the war against Syria will have to admit defeat and move on to other battle fields. On the other hand, if Donald Trump should lose the elections, the war on Syria will immediately be revived by the United Kingdom.

    Russian response to the destruction of its Ilyuchin-20 to the US mid-term elections on 6 November - is uncertain. All the protagonists of the war in Syria are waiting to see whether the White House will be able to pursue its policy of breaking away from the current international order, or if Congress will become the opposition and immediately trigger the process for the destitution of President Trump.

    The origins of the war

    It has become clear that the initial project by the United States, the United Kingdom, Israël, Saudi Arabia and Qatar will not be realised. The same goes for France and Turkey, two powers that entered the war against Syria somewhat later.

    What we need to remember is not the way in which we were informed about the start of the events, but what we have discovered about them since. The demonstrations in Deraa were presented as a « spontaneous revolt » against « dictatorial repression », but we now know that they had been in preparation for a long time [1].

    We also need to free ourselves of the illusion that all the members of a Coalition, united in order to achieve the same goal, share the same strategy. Whatever the influence of one or the other, each State conserves its own history, its own interests and its own war objectives.

    The United States pursued the strategy of Admiral Arthur Cebrowski, which was the destruction of the State structures in the Greater Middle East [2]. For this they relied upon the United Kingdom, which implemented Tony Blair’s strategy aimed at placing the Muslim Brotherhood in power throughout the region [3]. And also on Israël, which rebooted the strategy of Oded Yinon [4] and David Wurmser [5] for regional domination. The necessary weapons were stored in advance by Saudi Arabia in the Omar mosque [6]. Qatar stepped in by inventing the story about the children whose nails were torn out.

    At that time, Saudi Arabia was not seeking to impose a new form of politics on Syria, nor even to overthrow its government. Riyadh’s intention was exclusively to prevent a non-Sunni from becoming President. By some strange historical evolution, the Wahhabites, who, two centuries ago, considered both Sunnis and Chiites as heretics and called for their extermination if they failed to repent, are today presenting themselves as the defenders of the Sunnis and the killers of the Chiites.

    As for the tiny emirate of Qatar, it was exacting its revenge after the interruption of its gas pipeline in Syria [7].

    France, which should have taken part in the conspiracy by virtue of the Lancaster House agreements, was sidelined because of its unexpected initiatives in Libya. The Minister for Foreign Affairs, Alain Juppé, attempted to push France into rejoining the conspirators, but the ambassador in Damascus, Eric Chevallier, who could see the distortion of facts on the ground, resisted as far as humanly possible [8].

    When France was once again admitted to the group conspiracy, it continued its 1915 objective of the colonisation of Syria, pursuing the Sykes-Picot-Sazonov agreements. Just as the French mandate over Syria was considered to be transitory compared with the lasting colonisation of Algeria [9], it is considered, in the 21st century, as secondary to control of the Sahel. Besides which, while attempting to realise its old engagement, Paris pushed for the creation of a national home for the Kurds, on the model used by the British in 1917 for the Jews in Palestine. In order to do so, it allied itself with Turkey [10] which, in the name of Atatürk’s « national oath » [11], invaded the North of Syria in order to create a State to which the Turkish Kurds could be expelled.

    While the war objectives of these first four aggressors are mutually compatible, those of the latter two are not compatible with the others.

    Besides which, France, the United Kingdom and Turkey are three old colonial powers. All three are now trying to impose their power over the same throne. The war against Syria has thus reactivated their old rivalries.

    The Daesh episode within the war against Syria and Iraq

    At the end of 2013, the Pentagon revised its plans within the framework of the Cebrowski strategy. It modified its initial plans, as revealed by Ralph Peters [12], and substituted the plan by Robin Wright for the creation of a « Sunnistan » straddling Syria and Iraq [13].

    However, in September 2015, the deployment of the Russian army in Syria, as an obstacle to the creation of « Sunnistan » by Daesh, ruined the projects of the six principal partners in the war.

    The three years of war that followed had other objectives - on the one hand, to create a new state straddling Iraq and Syria within the framework of the Cebrowski strategy, and, on the other, to use Daesh to cut the Silk Road that Xi Jinping’s China were seeking to reactivate - thus maintaining continental domination over the « Western » part.

    The Syrian / Russian victory and the reversal of the United States

    The affair of the destruction of the Ilyuchin-20 on 17 September 2018 handed Russia the occasion to terminate this extended war and come to an agreement with the White House to stand against other aggressors. This is a rerun, on a smaller scale, of the Russian / US reaction to the Suez crisis of 1956 [14].

    Moscow has not only given the Syrian Arab Army anti-aircraft missiles (S-300’s), but has also deployed an entire integrated surveillance system. As soon as this system is operational, and Syrian officers have been trained to use it, which will take three months at the most, it will be impossible for Western armies to over-fly the country without permission from Damascus
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    President Trump announced in advance that he intends to withdraw US troops from Syria. He went back on this decision under pressure from the Pentagon, then agreed with his general officers to maintain pressure on Damascus as long as the United States were excluded from the peace negotiations in Sotchi. The deployment of the Russian armies – for which the White House had probably given its agreement – provided President Trump with the occasion of forcing the Pentagon to back off. It would have to withdraw its troops, but it could maintain the presence of its mercenaries (as it happens, these would be the Kurds and Arabs from the Democratic Forces) [16].

    The Syrian Minister for Foreign Affairs, Walid el-Mouallem, speaking before the General Assembly of the UNO, demanded the immediate and unconditional withdrawal of the foreign forces of occupation, US, French and Turkish [17].

    If the United States leave, then the French and Turkish troops will be unable to stay. The Israëlis would no longer be able to overfly and bomb the country. The British have already left.

    However, Tel-Aviv, Paris and Ankara still hope that President Trump will lose the elections of 6 November and will be fired. They are therefore awaiting the results of this fateful election before they decide.

    If it happens that Donald Trump should win the mid-term elections in Congress, another question will arise. If the Western powers give up on the battle in Syria, where will they go to continue their endless war? This is indeed a reality on which all experts agree – the Western ruling class has become so swamped in bad blood and hubris that it is unable to accept the idea of being geared back behind the new Asian powers.

    Wisdom would dictate that once the war is lost, the aggressors should withdraw. But the intellectual disposition of the West prevents them from doing so. The war here will cease only when they find a new bone to gnaw on.

    Only the United Kingdom has given its response any thought. It is clear by now that although London maintains its diplomatic pressure on Syria via the Small Group, its attention is already focused on the revival of the « Grand Game » which saw the Crown confront the Tsar throughout all of the 19th century. After having invented the Skripal affair, and on the model of the « Zinoviev Letter » [18], London has just ’caught’ the Russian Exterior Intelligence Services red-handed in their attempt to discover what is being plotted against them by the Organisation for the Prohibition of Chemical Weapons (OPWC).

    This geopolitical doctrine is independent of the events which serve as its pretext. The « Grand Game » was the strategy of the British Empire. Its resumption by the current United Kingdom is the consequence of Brexit and the policy of « Global Britain ». Just as in the 19th century, this anti-Russian configuration will lead in time to an exacerbated rivalry between London and Paris. On the contrary, should Theresa May fail, along with the questions concerning Brexit and the maintenance of the United Kingdom in the European Union, all these projections will be cancelled.

    If France is now studying the possibility of leaving the Middle East in order to concentrate on the Sahel, the position of the United States is a lot more problematic. Since 9/11, the Pentagon has enjoyed a certain autonomy. The ten combat Commanders of the armed forces no longer receive orders from the president of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee, but only from the Secretary of Defense.

    With time, they have become the veritable « viceroys » of the « American Empire » - a function which they do not wish to see reduced by President Trump. Some of them, like the Commander for South America (SouthCom) [19], intend to continue with the Cebrowski strategy, despite the admonitions of the White House.

    So there remains much uncertainty. The only positive step taken concerns Daesh – for three years, the Western powers pretended to be fighting this terrorist organisation, while at the same time supplying them with weapons. Today, Donald Trump has ordered the cessation of this experience of an explicitly terrorist state, the Caliphate, and the Syrian and Russian armies have pushed the jihadists back. The Westerners have no desire to see their friends, the « moderate rebels », now qualified as « terrorists », turn up in their countries en masse. Consequently, whether they admit it or not, they hope they will all be killed in Syria.

    It is the US mid-term elections which will decide whether the war continues in Syria or move on to another battle field.
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    All shareholders are harmed by Silicon Valley's ties to the Deep State.
    When in doubt, do the next right thing.
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    Quote It’s pointless blaming Trump for the elements in his administration that he has no control over. We first have to delineate within his administration who works for what power interest,
    Just want to amplify my thanks to Jayke for that interesting, informative, and instructive post above.
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    Quote Posted by mountain_jim (here)
    I would say our last president was more of a well-spoken teleprompter-reading, control-file-controlled sock-puppet putting a smiling face on growing America's corporate fascism and militarism.
    One thing I was struck with back when Obama and Bono made their 'money plea' video for the Red charity was Obama's sheer talent as an actor.

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    A great definition I once ran across for Government is the aggregate irresponsibility of the people. In other words the people pretty much get the gov they deserve. So if any of us were in Trumps shoes how would you go about salvaging this Republic?

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    I'd be an advocate for non censorship. I'd fight for the rights of each being as opposed to mob rule. I'd try to get rid of those who don't have the best interest of the Republic at heart. I would try to wake people up as I believe he is trying to do.

    I'd definitely dump the CIA, lock, stock and barrel into the nearest big, black hole.
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    Quote Posted by Valerie Villars (here)
    I'd definitely dump the CIA, lock, stock and barrel into the nearest big, black hole.
    Pray tell what did that black hole do to you to deserve that ugly fate? It's just cruising along out there somewhere and you would do this to it?

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    Quote Posted by Valerie Villars (here)
    I'd definitely dump the CIA, lock, stock and barrel into the nearest big, black hole.
    Pray tell what did that black hole do to you to deserve that ugly fate? It's just cruising along out there somewhere and you would do this to it?

    (just teasing in agreement with you)
    You're right. I apologize to the big, black hole I was going to doom to the hell of a life they have made for themselves and many others on this gorgeous planet.
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    Quote Posted by Jayke (here)
    I remember Catherine Austin Fitts in an interview discussing plans she’d made while she was still working in government, to try and turn America’s economy around. The person she was presenting her ideas to just flat out told her, “it’s too late, they’re not interested, they’ve given up on America”.
    My interpretation of that is that after the Kennedy Assassination, the productive capitalists tried turning the ship the around, but the other 3 groups became too entrenched. The Titanic Turners, like Lyndon LaRouche and his business affiliates, gave up on trying to make America great again, and took their ideas for productive capitalism to places like China and Russia, where their ideas found fertile ground. This however left the Neocons, the Zionists and the Pilgrims in charge of US foreign policy.
    For me, Trump seems to represent the interest groups of elements within at least 3 factions. I think the Pilgrims have seen the writing on the wall, the Zio-Con alliance (Zionist and Neocons), which was cemented with the PNAC agreement, are leading them into civilisational collapse (there’ll be no wealth for the pigs to plunder if they continue on the course they’re on). Also, factions within Zionism have recognised the mutually assured destruction of Israel and Iran in the Middle East, if they allow the UN to continue what they’ve been doing. This is causing a rift within the bloodline dynasties, and the Payseurs seem to be the ones getting exposed and thrown under the bus.
    The sands of change are also shifting within Judaism, with ‘Toranic’ Jews becoming more vocal with their Anti-Zionist sentiment, and beginning to apply pressure in the deep state machinery, standing up and saying no to their ‘Talmudic’ ideologically blinded brethren. The ‘Toranic’ Jews seem to be more Nationlistic and pledging loyalty to the countries they’re in, rather than working to usurp them. The Toranic Jews would rather see a strong Israël, that has influence in Russia and China’s new Silk Road Projects, than see the whole Muslim and Israeli Middle East evaporated in nuclear exchange (as per the plan of Albert Pike and the British Zionists in his World War 3 letter). Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump seem to have ties to this new Jewish movement within the Zionist community imo, and so while I don’t particularly trust them, I don’t think they’ll cause the collapse of Western civilisation or enslavement of humanity, like some pundits have claimed.
    This new alliance of Pilgrim bankers and Toranic Jewry, seem to be more aligned with the productive capitalist ‘Titanic Turners’—who fled the US for China and Russia—which has created a window of opportunity for the productive capitalists to return to the US and usurp power from the Ziocons (headed by the UN, Pentagon, Hillary Clinton and EU cabal).
    Trump is a man caught between several factions, trying to please as many power players as possible, while turning the Titanic in favour of the productive capitalists, as Thierry Meyssan over at Voltaire.net has been saying for some time.
    With that as some general context for understanding what’s going on in the world, Thierry Meyssan’s latest article should be held in mind, as per the importance of what the midterms next month could represent:

    This little snippet came from maybe the best post I've read in a year.

    I don't always read extremely long college entry exam type posts, but apparently when Jake writes them I will from now on.

    Damn bro, there is an education to be had in that post.

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    While this discussion has little to do with Q post, here is my briefest history of US monetary policy.

    The American Century runs from 1865 (Post Civil War) through Kennedy's murder. How did the US move from the industrial Revolution into the Monetary Revolution? Through numerous initiatives -- some American-born and others European driven -- America moved from provincial overseer (Monroe Doctrine) to global powerhouse.

    Just prior to Kennedy's death the plan changed due to constriction of liquidity in the American dollar. This was "corrected" in 1973 when the dollar went off the gold standard.

    Since then the US has skated on financial arrangements made coming out of Bretton Woods. Crude traded in dollars was the most costly to most American citizens.

    In the next 55 years, Most of America's conflicts and military and civilian deaths would result from defending the dollar dominance in the oil trade.

    Now that has come to an end. China buys oil in wuan. Other sell it in their currency. The Deep State is struggling for their next act since Trump beat Clinton.

    Do they blow it up with a "new" discovery once they know how to monetize it? Think Edison vs Telsa.

    This is what we are witnessing today.
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    In the next 55 years, Most of America's conflicts and military and civilian deaths would result from defending the dollar dominance in the oil trade.
    A major currency requires supply, demand, transaction systems, and storage, just as hydraulics in earth moving machines require pumps, valves, hoses and tanks. In each case, one applies force by pushing and pulling an incompressible liquid from one place to another through tubing.
    • The primary US Dollar storage is in big bank and US Treasury acounts (the tanks).
    • The primary US Dollar transaction system is SWIFT (the hoses and valves).
    • The primary US Dollar supply is big bank lending to nations and major corporations (the source).
    • The primary US Dollar demands are to pay off debt and to purchase arms, oil and drugs (the sink).
    "Real" or "Hard" money systems, such as based on gold and silver, rely on the long term in-elasticity of the primary "fluid". The supply of gold is limited by the high cost of extracting more, therefore gold holds its value over the millenia. The gold coin saved by my grandfather will still fetch my grandson a good suit.

    "Debt" money systems, such as the current US Dollar based global system, rely on the sustained discounting of future debt repayments, aka interest, to simulate this in-elasticity.

    Either way, the "pressure" of some future demand for the base currency must be applicable to the present day, in order to control bigger, longer term or less directly useful projects and markets, and the people, corporations and governments involved. The Time Value of Money (the TVM key on my beloved HP 19-B financial calculator) must remain more or less stable or predictably and only slowly changing, or at least thought of that way.

    "Debt" money systems have a limited lifetime, because there is an imbalanced pressure to keep issuing more debt, in order to finance ever more present day activity and investments. The amount of debt outstanding, and of related currency denominated assets such as cash and stocks, as well as the promised payouts of pension and insurance plans, promised government social services, and the promised future income from additional years of schooling ... all grow without bound until they vastly exceed what actual physical goods and services can actually be produced and delivered in that future. For a while financial engineering, fraud and derivatives can coverup this imbalance between what is promised and what can be delivered.

    Eventually we reach whatever is the modern day equivalent of a Debt Jubilee, in which the real value of many of these future promises defaults, and the real debt is once again more inline with the real potential future supply of goods and services.

    Quote Posted by mgray (here)
    Do they blow it up with a "new" discovery once they know how to monetize it? Think Edison vs Telsa.

    This is what we are witnessing today.
    A major energy break through would be one way to realign future promises with actual deliverables. Lending for Belt-Road-Initiative (BRI) infrastructure (rail, ports, pipelines, ...) is also more likely to be payable from resulting future productivity increases than is lending for degrees in community organizing for social justice. Robotic mining of asteroids in the solar system shows much promise as well.

    However, even if the BRI, future energy projects and asteroid mining succeed, there seem to be too many mean, evil, nasty characters in position of power, who by long standing habit expect to gain more, by their way of reckoning, from yet another major global financial, economic, monetary and political collapse and reorganization. They learned to "buy when the blood is running in the streets" while sitting on their grandpa's knee, and grandpa may well have been a pedophile, and they may well not be of the highest spiritual attainment.

    So I am not optimistic that we will make an easy or clean transition to the next "world economic spring."

    If we don't make public a major energy breakthrough, then not only might the transition be difficult, but also the spring might not even be forthcoming at all.
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    First part discusses RR and reasons he should (must) recuse himself.

    Halfway through, he discusses how the big tech companies have become the gatekeepers of political thought and opinion.

    Pastor held as political prisoner in Turkey released indicating improvement in relations between US & Turkey (DS doesn't want this)

    Hillary's security clearance now removed (also Sherrill Mills & 4 others)

    Possible global internet blackout due to ICAN performing a security systems extension.



    Added as an edit:

    For those of you who enjoy Greg Hunter (rants a little much for me, but he does make good points)

    Reminds of:
    Wapo outing Feinstein has having a Chinese spy in her office
    Hillary's connection to China
    Mitch McConnell's connection to China (thru his Chinese wife), and McConnell's more recent change of heart regarding Trump. (Does Trump have him over a barrell?)

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    All shareholders are harmed by Silicon Valley's ties to the Deep State.
    https://grayseconomy.com/2018/10/12/...l-partisanship

    "The Silicon Valley giants are getting knee-capped in the stock market as the premise of users privacy violations pile up on the largest social media firms.

    Alphabet’s Google, Facebook and Twitter have all seen shares beaten up over the last two weeks as they all announced user information was not protected and distributed to third-party vendors.

    Third-party vendors is code for outfits like Cambridge Analytica, which take demographic data to target political and marketing advertising to users. These data mining firms make 100s of millions of dollars selling this data.

    The data is still highly coveted by political campaigns despite the Facebook/Cambridge Analytica scandal in the 2016 presidential election. While outrage at the actions was loud actual legislation was not forthcoming since both parties crave the information.

    Google’s breach was so troubling that the company closed down it’s Google+ social media platform. The bigger problem was that Google hid the breach for months in order not to have the government bring further action against the company.

    It’s reported that the government’s ears and eyes through the NSA have all the data that was compromised and where it was sold and to whom.

    While most of the news coming out about draining the swamp is dealing with career political appointees operating outside the law within government agencies, this data has real-world, actionable ramifications. Public companies have shareholders, who suffer losses as these Silicon Valley firms get involved in partisan politics at the levels inferred by these actions."

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    I used to visit the qanonpost.com website with no problems.
    Now I'm getting a red screen with the , " Deceptive website ahead " message....
    I use the latest version of Chrome.

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    Try this site: https://qmap.pub/
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    I'm guessing the BOOM BOOM BOOM BOOM will have to wait until Election Day.
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