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    Default The Anatomy of the Soul vs. the Anatomy of Spirit

    Ariel Glad and I just posted two videos, where we discuss the not so well-known difference between soul (fire) and Spirit and what REALLY happens when we go through the tunnel and into the Light after we die.





    Also, here is a video by Brett Stuart and his remote viewing team, where they confirm much of what Ariel and I have talked about for quite some time on this subject. Brett Stuart is a well-respected remote viewer, and the data he and his team have released to the public, on different topics, is nothing less than stunning!



    EDIT: Acronyms used in our videos:

    AIF = Alien Invader Force
    BLA = Between Life (Lives) Area
    CD = Codependent
    CF = Central Fire
    DF = Divine Feminine
    Narc = Narcissist
    OBE = Out of Body Experience
    RV = Remote Viewing/Remote Viewer)
    WPP = The Wes Penre Papers
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    Default Re: The Anatomy of the Soul vs. the Anatomy of Spirit

    For the uninitiated: BLA? WPP?

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    Default Re: The Anatomy of the Soul vs. the Anatomy of Spirit

    BLA = Between Lives Area (recycling of souls)

    WPP = the "Wes Penre Papers" http://wespenre.com/index-level-one-to-level-five.htm

    AIF = Alien Invader Force (some call them the Anunnaki, which is only partly correct).
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    Default Re: The Anatomy of the Soul vs. the Anatomy of Spirit

    Hi Wes, thank you for the interesting videos on a most interesting topic.

    I am currently studying Gurdjieff's Fourth Way and was struck by his insistence that we are not (normally) born with the higher, non-physical bodies and that these need to be formed or crystallized through conscious work. For Gurdjieff they exist only as a potential.

    Obviously, if he is correct, it would have huge implications for our spiritual understanding and progress.

    What do you make of Gurdjieff's position on this subject?

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    Default Re: The Anatomy of the Soul vs. the Anatomy of Spirit

    Thanks Wes for the insights. Here is what moves me while hearing your videos:

    The experiences of this subject matter, as compared with other partly related sources, appear variously titled, including “The Astral” or “The Emotional” realms (or worlds or planes). BLA, OBE, have also hit my curiosity and eventually there appeared in varied sources, the human dream world as a related function, wisely presented as the emotional or astral realm.

    Indeed these can become haunting experiences with generally aggressive influences, said to somewhat dominate according to particularities. Where the astral realm is laid out with dominions, both peaceful and also some judgmental ones, but all these are availably exposed, as showman-invented and user-supported realms, certainly not forever required, not mandatory for between-life states. Those who do advancement work while living an earth life are free to bypass the unnecessary ravages of lower physical and emotional outcomes, but as long as we sow, we shall also reap the results, through life after life. So it is explained that physical-psychic-emotional energies do boomerang us back, or bid our beck and materialistic callings.

    With freely available advancement work, our determined humans of the past and present, release from the bounds of the emotional, the psychic, the physical and the mental selves, (us-as-humans)… A higher state may be reached during the wakefulness here and now. This state of being is called the causal self. It appears to draw from ancient wisdom, both from the east and the west.

    Basically seen from a lower perspective, it might appear like the most self enabled of all possible earth-bonded selves, but too little developed in man. Where this more accomplished state of being will ultimately control the experiential processes, instead of having one’s acquired robotic attachments, to hurtfully modulate and victimize the self. I would further investigate how this stretches even into the repressive overlord phenomena.

    My investigation has been limited, feeling the causal self as the graduating consciousness to gradually develop in human life, where indeed most humans stubbornly have opted for emotional and physical holdups. As this can be heavily verified in world history. How many thousands of human life times should it take, to overcome lower emotions and put-aside emotionally-reactive experiences? This is entirely up to the individual self. Free-will holds sway here, to be freer or more enslaved by emotions and physical attachments, but this takes continued resolve or motivated self discipline to explore.

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