Problems with Mark Richards' SSP testimony to Kerry Cassidy

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by kevin Moore (here)
that website that you have quoted I spoke to the owner who is a ex Murder lawyer called Erickson

I used this interesting online tool to estimate how long it would take to read that entire text aloud.

24:59, apparently. (I've not checked it!)

If I were making a documentary on all this, I'd ask Erickson's permission to use his very dry, balanced, precise, grounded wording. His presentation seems well-referenced and impeccable. And then find a solemn professional voice (male or female, maybe better the latter) to narrate it all out against a bunch of interesting images or video clips.

The result might be an hour long, and it'd be impressive simply because of the sober, dry, low-key, factual presentation. It might save a LOT of trouble.

[kevin Moore]

Yes Bill I do acknowledge that you do not contest, dispute, or disagree with any of the evidence myself and Geoff Reed have researched Well Bill that’s nice of you to say that its laudable to get the truth out there, but seeing from your post I guess you no a bit about Marks case now and it must be hard for you with Kerry being your ex and having to say one day that she got this one wrong – but maybe you would never say that and never get involved with this one as Kerry is to close to you still - but if your going to go against Corey then you need to see other SSP frauds like Mark to be as big an issue as Corey as Kerry has a much bigger platform then Corey full stop - also During your interview with Kerry on HONOR OF BOB DEAN: HIS LIFE AND HIS PASSING https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEwPxiBmqYc

You said ---Thank you for your service lets make this a tribute to you as well - Kudos for all your work what your doing your dedication for your incredible perseverance through the years - that to me says ok ill ignore Mark then ill never have to get involved and call her out - but how is that doing the community any good - ????? were is the line.... ok so this ones a fraud but this one I wont bother with as its to close to Kerry

[kevin Moore]

Bill thank you for the link right now I have no idea who to trust

[Bill Ryan]

Posted by kevin Moore (here)
Yes Bill I do acknowledge that you do not contest, dispute, or disagree with any of the evidence myself and Geoff Reed have researched.

1. Thank you.
2. I'm not 'close' to Kerry (in the way you imply). Before the Bob Dean tribute last month, the last time I talked with her on audio was in 2012. I've not seen her in person since 2011. I treat her with respect as a colleague whom I know always means well. (Whatever you might think. I do know her very well indeed.)
3. Kerry has got a lot of things wrong in her career with Camelot. That was one reason why I felt I was no longer able to work with her. We parted company professionally in 2010.
4. In my dealings, I regard her as a friend, and will continue to do so. None of this is personal.

But one final word, if I may, about something partially related. My advice to you as someone with some experience in this field is just always be as professional as possible.

There are many ways to interpret that, of course, but it definitely includes not getting publicly upset, not getting personal, not using coarse language (it's usually unwise, unless you're Joe Rogan ), always being as concise and abbreviated as you can, and never presenting yourself as flustered or reactive.

I do have to say, if I may, the personal video statement you uploaded today was dreadful, and any PR manager, if you had one, would advise you that it just doesn't do you any favors.

Having said all that, of course it's entirely your prerogative what kind of image you want to present of yourself, and I'm sure you covered all that in detail in your university degree.

I'll take no further part in this discussion, apart from (as promised) answering any questions that anyone else may have.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=AxPqbsDWbgo

[RunningDeer]

Posted by kevin Moore (here)
.... ok so this ones a fraud but this one I wont bother with as its to close to Kerry

Kevin,

This may help to shed light to your point on Bill's bias. He has a thread called, “Bill Ryan's personal Question-and-Answer thread. Pile it on."

NOTE: if you’re short on time, jump to the last four paragraphs.

KingJamesCorona posted Kerry’s October 30th video and had questions. Such as: "Mr. Ryan, is this a fair shake on history regarding you and the project Avalon forum?"

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=XeMVMGVSEyA

Bill’s reply:
I've not listened to it yet. Do I have to?

(That's actually a serious question.)

Maybe you could summarize a few concise questions for me, and then I'll be very happy to respond.

KingJamesCorona: No please don’t, it’s unpleasant to the ears.

Basically Kerry states you were GIVEN project Avalon, to take care of yourself. My question is; Where you in-fact given project Avalon? Kerry also states project Avalon was created together as a sister site. Initially the site was for ’preppers’. Kerry states you became a prepper.

Was Project Avalon given to you? Was project Avalon initially a ‘prepper’ site and social platform for people to socialize?

She states she needed to teach you how to work a camera. Did she teach you filmmaking? She states you failed your mission and she carried it on from there. Do you know what mission she may be referring to? Something in regards to failing the mission in this life. Kerry states you may have been King Arthur, and you don’t like that story very much. Kerry and another (Clairvoyant maybe) through past life recall believe you maybe King Arthur... Do you believe yourself to be King Arthur? Your key witnesses believed they were Knights of the Round Table?

Did you have a girlfriend wanting you to be the lead interviewer during your time with Kerry? Behind the scenes this alleged girlfriend wanted you to get rid of Kerry?

Kerry says you made a big mistake and she hopes you’ll “Pull the sword from the stone again?” That may be an inference as to a return to project Camelot. Seeing as you were a guest on the monetized [In Honor of Bib Dean] video, are you considering a return to Camelot?

Apologies for the format.

Sincerely Mr. Ryan, thank you for taking the time.

Bill’s response:

Well a couple of riders, at the very start of my reply, may be helpful to add some read-between-the-lines context.

• I've been answering these question in sequence, as I think you will see. My protocol is to thank the post, then respond. (If I've not thanked it yet, it means I've not reached it yet. If I seem to miss something completely, then just bump (repeat) the question, as it will definitely only mean I've been diverted or interrupted, and accidentally lost the place.)
  
  I came upon this question, and decided to take Mara, my dog, for a walk — in the pouring rain. I now feel a little better able to respond.

• Kerry is like the impossible sister I never had. Richard Dolan said it perfectly (and brilliantly), referring a few weeks ago to the late Gordon Novel.

"Gordon, of all the people I love, I hate you the most, and of all the people I hate, I love you the most."

So there are others in the community who are very flawed, and my criticism of them has been fair, honest, straight, but sometimes relatively unforgiving. In Kerry's case, I can't bear ill-will against her. She's my sister. But with that in mind, read the following answers to your questions.

~~~

We started Avalon together, in August 2008. It was originally a resource index for personal and spiritual growth, sustainability, optimal self-health, and so on. The forum was conceived as an adjunct to that.

But as I wrote here in my post #89 here, the forum took off like a wild rocket. We had 7,000 fully active and enthusiastic members within 3 weeks, and a moderators team who had zero experience and didn't even know each other. It was chaos. But that told us that the forum really was the heart and soul of the project.

Kerry didn't 'give' me Avalon. I remember a nuclear firefight we had at one point (we had a few), in late 2008 or early 2009, when we were literally yelling at each other. The neighbors probably heard it half a mile away. I told her that she could take Camelot, and I'd take Avalon. That was kind of burned in my memory.

But the separation didn't actually happen until late 2009. It was crystal clear that we could no longer work together, and I already had the perfect lifeboat. (Not so much a 'lifeboat'. More a ship-to-ship transfer.)

I wasn't ever a member of the so-called 'prepper' community. But after I arrived in Ecuador, in 2011, I set about creating a community which (the plan was!) could withstand anything. (I still have my ham radio, ready to go.)

Two things happened:

1. The community failed, dramatically and catastrophically.
2. The 'prepping' was never needed.

Yes, she taught me how to use a video camera (then, they worked with DVC tapes: no digital memory), and to edit using Final Cut Pro.

I did not fail in my mission.

Here's an interesting anecdote. A young Avalon member came to visit me in July last year, passing through Ecuador. I'd met her a number of times before. She was 25, and one of those delightful, featherlight, sparkling-bright young people who is staggeringly spiritually aware, able and mature for her age.

She told me she had a message for me, that she'd received suddenly and clearly during meditation, and it was important. Of course, I was intrigued.

We went for a walk, and she told me that my mission was complete, and that I no longer needed to worry or fret about always having to do more. She said the battle had been won, that Camelot had been a major part of that tipping point, and that while I could continue to work if I wanted to, there was actually no need to. Because now, everything was going to work out.

That was so astonishing to hear, that I couldn't really make any comment at the time, and can't now. But I've never forgotten it.

I don't think I was King Arthur. However, a couple of people (or maybe 3) have all told me that in the last few years, entirely independently of each other. But I've never recalled that myself. Even if I was King Arthur, it doesn't matter.

The girlfriend that Kerry was referring to is Ruth Huber, in Switzerland. She can be seen translating on stage in the conference we hosted in 2009, and my keystone presentation can be seen here. Ruth is there, too.

Ruth was well aware that my meeting her might be a problem for Kerry, and the very first thing that she did was send Camelot a $300 donation to show Kerry that she meant well. But the moment Kerry met her, which was quite soon after, she (Kerry) was unrelentingly hostile. That never abated. After a short while, Ruth (who is very perceptive, and a spiritual teacher and counselor) grew to dislike Kerry intensely.

Finally, I made no 'mistakes'.

And regarding a 'return to Camelot', every now and then the thought crosses my mind. It'd be a little like Steve Jobs returning to Apple in 1997 to fix the company and turn everything around.

But that would be impossible. Three weeks ago, when Bob Dean passed, and Kerry (very kindly) brought me on to the tribute livestream broadcast, we did a reasonable job together, especially as it was the first time we'd done any kind of show jointly since 2012. Some people who've heard the show were generous enough to say that they think I kept it all together, and I'd not disagree.

Despite Bob's sad passing, it was a kind of feel-good moment. It was a privilege to be able to say a few things on air to honor him. After the show, she and I had a few words on Skype to close off.

Then Kerry, with every good intention and with zero malice of any kind, said something (about me/to me) that was so inaccurate, inappropriate, and utterly divorced from reality that I was literally stopped in my tracks and had no idea how to respond.

I wasn't even upset. Just floored. I made some pleasant remark, and excused myself. Enough. It would be impossible for us to ever work together again.

[kevin Moore]

Yes bill that’s right in a three year course at university my teachers would not be happy - but I’m sick of the two faced people in this community – Kerry uses coarse language ???

Iam flustered and reactive - what if that was your brother or sister murdered and this convicted man who was part of his murder was given a platform to spew crap on and when asked about the murder he committed was allowed to say all sorts of crap about your murdered brother and sister you might think different.
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YOU HAVE NO IDEA HOW EFFECTED SUSAN WAS..... BUT I DO AS I MET HER IN MAINE FACE TO FACE ----there’s only me in this community fighting for Mr Baldwin and I so agree with arms open to Mr Baldwin to take on that role.

Bill you can say what ever you want about me being this person or that but I have had enough - how can people believe all theses frauds and yep you interviews quite a lot of frauds no wounder why you wanted out of Project Camelot they should be brought to answer like the pedo Brockbrader/Bill Wood Coward Phony Navy SEAL - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oE-oYzVM2jA and many more.... If some one came to me and and showed me the evidence that a person I had put on my channel over and over was not who they said they was and everything that mark was, I would go to my audience and say opps i got it wrong - but your ex and friend just wont do that - hence the reason the community is looked at as the crazy fruit loops with underground false misinformation

Peoples awakening is so special and this field attracts the frauds and misinformation campaigns and crazy unbalanced hosts and so called whistle blowers.

[Valerie Villars]

I don't think I've heard such disgusting name calling and childish B.S. since grammar school. Talk about mind control and triggers.

[Kerry Cassidy]

This free ebook says it well in the introduction and I cannot echo the introductory statement below strongly enough. Required reading for all those like Kevin Moore who think that things are just what the government and courts say they are.... Awaken sleepers! Cudos to Jian...
.
.."This book is a fictional representation of true events in which names, initials, and situations have been changed to secure safety for my loved ones, professionals who have helped me at great risk, and myself.

This is the story of American corporate and governmental life today, thanks to the Cold War that spawned the CIA Operation Paperclip and MK-Ultra mind control programs. Even the secret space program now in operation began with Nazi physics and mind control. Because all of this has been cloaked for over a half century in “national security,” the American public is oblivious to the existence of the evils now embedded in the very structure of its institutions and government agencies, like the post-9/11 Department of Homeland Security.

It is long past time to awaken the public to what victims like myself are undergoing every day and night of the week at work and at home.

Jian Liang
Los Angeles, California October 2018

Available here on Project Camelot: http://projectcamelotportal.com/2018...by-jian-liang/

[kevin Moore]

KERRY YOU SHOULD TELL THAT TO SUSAN BALDWIN THE SISTER OF RICHARD BALDWIN I'M SURE SHE WOULD AGREE WITH YOU THAT HER BROTHER WAS NOT MURDERED BY CROSSEY AND MARK WAS NOT A FOOT AWAY GIVING CROSSEY THE SCREWDRIVER TO STAB MR BALDWIN IN THE HEART A FEW TIMES--- SAYING TO HIM FINISH HIM FINISH HIM ITS ALL IN SUSAN BALDWINS MIND CONTROLLED HEAD - like crossey said to me - what the hell does Kerry no she wasn't there --i was and mark was - Kerry you have been deceived by mark and as light worker your not tuning in to the real truth - Major tom to ground control

[Innocent Warrior]

Seriously, Kerry, now you post for yourself?

Kerry could have began by posting herself, as she's since shown several times, but in asking Bill to post for her she was asking him to take the risk of his intentions being misconstrued, which is what happened.

I’m not assuming that was deliberate, but it was careless. Maybe Bill could have declined to post her message on her behalf, but Kerry shouldn’t have put him in that position.

[The Moss Trooper]

Posted by Kerry Cassidy (here)
This free ebook says it well in the introduction and I cannot echo the introductory statement below strongly enough. Required reading for all those like Kevin Moore who think that things are just what the government and courts say they are.... Awaken sleepers! Cudos to Jian...
.
.."This book is a fictional representation of true events in which names, initials, and situations have been changed to secure safety for my loved ones, professionals who have helped me at great risk, and myself.

This is the story of American corporate and governmental life today, thanks to the Cold War that spawned the CIA Operation Paperclip and MK-Ultra mind control programs. Even the secret space program now in operation began with Nazi physics and mind control. Because all of this has been cloaked for over a half century in “national security,” the American public is oblivious to the existence of the evils now embedded in the very structure of its institutions and government agencies, like the post-9/11 Department of Homeland Security.

It is long past time to awaken the public to what victims like myself are undergoing every day and night of the week at work and at home.

Jian Liang
Los Angeles, California October 2018

Available here on Project Camelot: http://projectcamelotportal.com/2018...by-jian-liang/

Why don't you engage?

Why not address some of the legitimate questions posed?

You state many, many times that you are a serious investigative journalist, yet are unable to acknowledge and address serious questions about a serious incident.

Pffffttttt.......... Your credibility is going South faster than ducks in winter.

[ichingcarpenter]

Has Kerry talked to Prince Nagadraconis of the reptoids lately like Mark Richards and his father have?

[kevin Moore]

I think mark has a portal to walk through and talk to Prince Nagadraconis of the reptoids

[Mike]

Posted by kevin Moore (here)
I think mark has a portal to walk through and talk to Prince Nagadraconis of the reptoids

no you've been misled. that portal stuff is nonsense.

[kevin Moore]

oh darn thanks for spoiling it Mike

[Mike]

Posted by kevin Moore (here)
oh darn thanks for spoiling it Mike

[onawah]

What good are all these works of fiction and all the second hand information when there is still so little genuine documentation and first hand testimony being presented in a format that can be easily accessed?
If the documentary doesn't come out for months yet, all the childish nastiness, sarcasm, arguing and name calling does no credit to anyone at all and rather than making more people wanting to get to the truth, I wouldn't be surprised if more and more just lose interest out of sheer disgust.
Professionalism in journalism has never gone out of style, and hopefully never will, though current trends seem to deny that.
That means remaining detached, objective and emphasizing the provable facts, not ranting and raving and going off on each other, such as we see in the network news wars on the MSM.
Alternative media is supposed to be better than that.
This whole issue, like the Corey Goode show, is getting to be like the Entertainment Tonight of alternative media, not much better than celebrity gossip.
I commend Bill for opting to stay out of it.

[onawah]

There's nothing like good old direct, incontrovertible common sense.

Posted by peterpam (here)

Lets turn this thread into something really useful. Let's all look at the facts of the case on the guilt of Mark Richards together, without malice. Let's look at each of his claims and lets match them up to the facts. No other side drama, no diversion no negativity. Who knows, you may be able to convince us we are wrong, maybe you have documented facts we know nothing about. I think you could gain a lot of respect if you were willing to do this. Let the facts lead us, not preconceived notions or desired outcomes. There is nothing wrong with admitting you made a mistake or made an inaccurate assessment, we all do that. I hold people in high esteem when they have the humility to admit they were wrong. If you prove we are wrong, I will admit to it.

[Tangri]

I can't believe what I read from naive Americans or other nationalities. Evidence can be craeted or erased. Too much credit on American courts here. You can obtain false testimonies with threat and bribe, it is certain.

[Satori]

I forced myself, out of sheer morbid curiosity, to read all of the posts on this thread to this point. Morbid curiosity may cause me to continue to read more, but after this I will not post again.

At a certain level the posts on this thread made for interesting reading. Unfortunately, the one-ups-man-ship by some disintegrated into mudslinging.

The more I read and pondered what is being said and what is happening on this thread, the less I cared about any of this hoopla surrounding Mark Richards. (To be candid, I did not care from the beginning because, based upon what I have read seen and heard about him, I would not believe a word he has to say.)

I also found myself becoming mildly repulsed by the whole affair going down here. I'm referring to the topic of Mark Richards and his involvement in murder, and not individuals. With a few exceptions, and I think we know who they are, most posts are not showing the best side of the poster.

A documentary on Mark Richards? Interviews and write ups on Mark Richards. What a colossal waste of time, effort and money. "SSP Mark Richards." Yeah, right.

Oh, by the way, before I go I should tell you that I invented the Internet. Really I did.