The Qanon posts, and associated US political analysis

[Ratszinger]

I find it interesting that all the Q fans and followers keep chalking up victories for Trump when it's Trump's foundation which was closed, not the Clinton or Obama foundation but Trumps. Not McCain's foundation but Trumps foundation! Yet this is a win!

Flynn gets all but told he is going to jail. OH this is a win too and by the by the judge is in on the plan! Sorry folks but this is bordering on stupid now! I see no wins here for Trump or Q. It looks to me like they be getting their hides whipped real good and we have the promise of more to come from Flynn, and more to come from Cohen yet this is all wins! I'm not seeing the Trumps winning much here and it certainly doesn't look like Q had a clue how this was going to roll out> it looks like they surprised Q with some maneuvers that simply outwitted him/them.

Much as I want to believe Q has some ultimate plan and a check mate just around the corner I am not seeing that. What it appears instead is that the wagon train has been stopped and they are now circling and screaming getting ready to torch them and spook them out.

[ThePythonicCow]

Go team purple - rah, rah, rah !! Team pink sucks. Team pink is being flushed.

No, no - you got it all wrong.

Go team pink - rah, rah, rah !! Team purple sucks. Team purple is being flushed.

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Perhaps, just perhaps, beneath the superficial sensationalism that some would use (as in a few earlier posts in this thread) to incite emotional reaction ... there lies more bold, insightful and impactful investigation and reformation.

Not all will be remedied; the struggle will doubtless continue; but not all is lost either.

Proper action follows from proper understanding.

[mgray]

Too much going on. My take on Flynn's hearing here. And what is up with markets before Fed hike here.

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by mgray (here)
Too much going on. My take on Flynn's hearing here.

By my reading, Federal Judge Emmet Sullivan did not literally acuse Flynn of treason, but rather merely stated that it could be so argued.

However, yes, Sullivan is demonstrating evidence of being caught up as an involuntary actor in a storm larger than his court, and he's doubtlessly not a happy camper.

Posted by mgray (here)
And what is up with markets before Fed hike here.

As you probably know, being a New York money man, the one with the best track record that I know of, on calling the Fed's decisions, Gregory Mannarino of TradersChoice.net, agrees with you that the Fed will raise again today, another 1/4 of a per-cent.

If the Fed doesn't do that, then as you note, all hell may break lose in the New York financial markets ... and President Donald Trump, with his quite public efforts to talk the Fed down from such a raise, will own the resulting hell ... or at least those of his quite numerous enemies who can coherently discuss financial markets (a proper subset of said enemies) will doubtlessly do their best to tar Trump's feathers with said crash.

... all of which causes the tin-foil-hat conspiracy theory nut-case who resides in my cranium to predict exactly that to happen ... big badda boom bust ... blame Trump.

[Ratszinger]

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by mgray (here)
And what is up with markets before Fed hike here.

As you probably know, being a New York money man, the one with the best track record that I know of, on calling the Fed's decisions, Gregory Mannarino of TradersChoice.net, agrees with you that the Fed will raise again today, another 1/4 of a per-cent.

If the Fed doesn't do that, then as you note, all hell may break lose in the New York financial markets ... and President Donald Trump, with his quite public efforts to talk the Fed down from such a raise, will own the resulting hell ... or at least those of his quite numerous enemies who can coherently discuss financial markets (a proper subset of said enemies) will doubtlessly do their best to tar Trump's feathers with said crash.

... all of which causes the tin-foil-hat conspiracy theory nut-case who resides in my cranium to predict exactly that to happen ... big badda boom bust ... blame Trump.

FWIW I saw a tweet by Trump where he applauded raising the rate because it's time! I don't know what you saw but I saw him post the opposite and it had the check beside his name so it's supposed to be DJT.

DJT Tweet

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Ratszinger (here)
FWIW I saw a tweet by Trump where he applauded raising the rate because it's time! I don't know what you saw but I saw him post the opposite and it had the check beside his name so it's supposed to be DJT. DJT Tweet

I read Trump's tweat the opposite of what you do.

I read Trump as saying that, with such an awesomely wonderful economy in the U.S., compared to all the problems elsewhere, the Fed should shut up, take no action and leave well enough alone.

In any case, here's what Trump tweated:

Donald J. Trump -- Verified account @realDonaldTrump

It is incredible that with a very strong dollar and virtually no inflation, the outside world blowing up around us, Paris is burning and China way down, the Fed is even considering yet another interest rate hike. Take the Victory!

5:27 AM - 17 Dec 2018 24,653 Retweets 103,471 Likes

[mgray]

Posted by Ratszinger (here)

Posted by Paul (here)

Posted by mgray (here)
And what is up with markets before Fed hike here.

As you probably know, being a New York money man, the one with the best track record that I know of, on calling the Fed's decisions, Gregory Mannarino of TradersChoice.net, agrees with you that the Fed will raise again today, another 1/4 of a per-cent.

If the Fed doesn't do that, then as you note, all hell may break lose in the New York financial markets ... and President Donald Trump, with his quite public efforts to talk the Fed down from such a raise, will own the resulting hell ... or at least those of his quite numerous enemies who can coherently discuss financial markets (a proper subset of said enemies) will doubtlessly do their best to tar Trump's feathers with said crash.

... all of which causes the tin-foil-hat conspiracy theory nut-case who resides in my cranium to predict exactly that to happen ... big badda boom bust ... blame Trump.

FWIW I saw a tweet by Trump where he applauded raising the rate because it's time! I don't know what you saw but I saw him post the opposite and it had the check beside his name so it's supposed to be DJT.

DJT Tweet

As I wrote yesterday, the "Take The Victory" line referred to that the US is still growing while Europe and China are not. So leave well-enough alone and stop raising rates.

[Ratszinger]

I read it take the victory of being in a position to raise the rate. I didn't get that Trump was against it at all and I'm still not sure that is the correct take.

[A Voice from the Mountains]

Posted by Paul (here)
I read Trump as saying that, with such an awesomely wonderful economy in the U.S., compared to all the problems elsewhere, the Fed should shut up, take no action and leave well enough alone.

"Take the victory" could also very easily be taken to have a double-meaning encouraging further dissidence in France and China. Police are flirting with the idea of abandoning their posts against the Yellow Jackets if they continue to be abused by the Macron regime, and the top brass of the French military are also signaling that they are not happy with Macron.

Macron is hanging onto power by his fingertips at this point. It was already reported that he was keeping a helicopter ready by his personal residence in case he needed to evacuate. Reminds me of when the royal residences were stormed during the French Revolution, or the Romanian president's residence being stormed during the collapse of the USSR, when the Romanian president fled in a helicopter.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=89CjybRz9u0

That Communist Romanian president, Nicolae Ceaușescu, was captured by his own military and executed shortly afterward, putting an end to the Communist regime in Romania. This was just in the 1980s.

Posted by Ratszinger (here)
I read it take the victory of being in a position to raise the rate. I didn't get that Trump was against it at all and I'm still not sure that is the correct take.

Raising the rate is supposed to combat inflation when lending is occurring too freely. Inflation is still relatively low in the US as money supplies appear relatively tight. There is no need to raise the interest rates that banks charge on loans. That is what Trump is saying.

Trump is very obviously opposed to raising interest rates at the Fed. He's been talking about this for months.

[Ratszinger]

Posted by A Voice from the Mountains (here)

Posted by Paul (here)
I read Trump as saying that, with such an awesomely wonderful economy in the U.S., compared to all the problems elsewhere, the Fed should shut up, take no action and leave well enough alone.

"Take the victory" could also very easily be taken to have a double-meaning encouraging further dissidence in France and China. Police are flirting with the idea of abandoning their posts against the Yellow Jackets if they continue to be abused by the Macron regime, and the top brass of the French military are also signaling that they are not happy with Macron.

Macron is hanging onto power by his fingertips at this point. It was already reported that he was keeping a helicopter ready by his personal residence in case he needed to evacuate. Reminds me of when the royal residences were stormed during the French Revolution, or the Romanian president's residence being stormed during the collapse of the USSR, when the Romanian president fled in a helicopter.

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=89CjybRz9u0

That Communist Romanian president, Nicolae Ceaușescu, was captured by his own military and executed shortly afterward, putting an end to the Communist regime in Romania. This was just in the 1980s.

Posted by Ratszinger (here)
I read it take the victory of being in a position to raise the rate. I didn't get that Trump was against it at all and I'm still not sure that is the correct take.

Raising the rate is supposed to combat inflation when lending is occurring too freely. Inflation is still relatively low in the US as money supplies appear relatively tight. There is no need to raise the interest rates that banks charge on loans. That is what Trump is saying.

Trump is very obviously opposed to raising interest rates at the Fed. He's been talking about this for months.

Yeah I've been reading up in the mean time after posting and it does appear he was against it. I see why now when you do the math. The left wants to ruin his GDP growth which is hovering before the change at between 4 and 5% but after the rate hike it will come out to be 2% which I'm sure the left will use in all their statements to drive home as a negative ding against Trump and of course without the explanation of why.

[A Voice from the Mountains]

Posted by Ratszinger (here)
Yeah I've been reading up in the mean time after posting and it does appear he was against it. I see why now when you do the math. The left wants to ruin his GDP growth which is hovering before the change at between 4 and 5% but after the rate hike it will come out to be 2% which I'm sure the left will use in all their statements to drive home as a negative ding against Trump and of course without the explanation of why.

This really goes straight to the heart of the Federal Reserve's control structure, so Trump is really sticking a PR knife in their heart by making a big public debate about this. No past president has had success against the Fed, but Trump is unlike any past president since Andrew Jackson in his public criticisms of the "national bank."

The Fed is just a cartel of banks that trade in bundles of enormous amounts of money. When they pump these enormous bundles of cash into smaller banks, loans are given freely at low interest rates and people have lots of capital to grow their businesses or make house purchases, etc.

When the Fed withdraws massive bundles of cash out of the economy, however, banks tighten up and stop making loans, which means businesses have to tighten their belts and start laying off workers and ordering less supplies, etc., which turns into economic stagnation, recession, and depression.

It's really that simple. It's an easy mechanism of pumping cash in or sucking cash out of circulation from the top, by trading these massive amounts of money between banks. This is what exactly caused the Great Depression too btw, not the stock market collapse. The stock market really is just a distraction, the way the media props it up as if it's what determines how the overall economy is doing.

[ThePythonicCow]

.
Q's back, after taking a week off:

December 19, 2018

From https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/4380748.html#4381127

Q !!mG7VJxZNCI 12/19/18 (Wed) 17:11:25 0365ff (4) No.4381127

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/interne...anting-n949626
The clock is ticking.
When will the 1st alarm ring?If the Senate was the primary target (majority control)….
53-47 active when?
EO (designated_target(s)) active when?
Ongoing investigations…..
"There are a lot of sealed indictments" - SC
"It's all going to come out, U1, Dossier, CF, etc…." - SH
"I have pretty good sources…" - SH
There is a reason why SH, SC, and JS are on stage.
Q

From https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/4380748.html#4381184

Q !!mG7VJxZNCI 12/19/18 (Wed) 17:14:15 0365ff (4) No.4381184

Why does the FAKE NEWS media continually attack a (as they say) so-called 'only a conspiracy' 'nothing to see here' 'lonely guy behind a keyboard' movement?
The largest media co's in the world giving so much attention….
WASH POST leading the attack?
Logical thinking always wins.
Q

From https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/4380748.html#4381317

Q !!mG7VJxZNCI 12/19/18 (Wed) 17:19:27 0365ff (4) No.4381317

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=G2qIXXafxCQ

This is not another 4-year election….
Listen very carefully.
Power returned to the people.
Long term solutions.
Panic.
Q

From https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/4380748.html#4381420

Q !!mG7VJxZNCI 12/19/18 (Wed) 17:23:03 0365ff (4) No.4381420

[D] Day, Patriots.
We will have our Country back!
Q+

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This Anon post on 8 chan explains the initials in the first Q drop above:

From https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/4380748.html#4381182

Anonymous 12/19/18 (Wed) 17:14:13 672015 (6) No.4381182

SH = Sean Hannity
SC = Sara Carter
JS = John Solomon
/ourguys/ designated trusted media outlets
Hi Q!!!!!!!!

[crosby]

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=zn1FRPyzVI0

IPOT's latest summary on Q's latest drops listed above in Paul's post 8012.

crosby

[mgray]

Fed chief Powell just hiked rates for last time. My take

[TargeT]

Trump orders pull out of Syria... kinda a win, eh?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=DCAUhOrwQ0c

2nd comey transcript was pretty damn interesting, good breakdown here:

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=tZx7U250ars

[Ratszinger]

Posted by TargeT (here)
Trump orders pull out of Syria... kinda a win, eh?

Source: https://youtube.com/watch?v=DCAUhOrwQ0c

I don't know if it's a win or not because it's obviously surprised both Graham and Mattis who just resigned over it. It is quite clear that Mattis is in serious disagreement with Trump over the Syria thing. Mattis out in FEB over clashes with DJT

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Ratszinger (here)
I don't know if it's a win or not because it's obviously surprised both Graham and Mattis who just resigned over it. It is quite clear that Mattis is in serious disagreement with Trump over the Syria thing. Mattis out in FEB over clashes with DJT

When both AP News and General Mattis object to a decision by Trump to end military action in another country ... that sounds to me like it might be a good decision <grin>.

I agree with, and respect, General Mattis's statement, in his resignation letter, that Trump has "a right to have a Secretary of Defense whose views are better aligned with [his].”

I don't agree with, nor respect, the blatantly pro-war, anti-Trump, bias of AP News that runs throughout their "news" report. Once again, it is obvious that AP News is no longer a news agency, but rather a propaganda agency operating as a wholly owned subsidiary of the U.S. military-industrial-intelligence war mongering pro-Zionist complex.

We (the U.S.) had no business having our military fighting in Syria in the first place, and we have no business being there now.

[ThePythonicCow]

December 20, 2018

From https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/4391453.html#4392219

Q !!mG7VJxZNCI 12/20/18 (Thu) 11:33:29 7f3573 (1) No.4392219

File (hide): 7a01255320b1cf8⋯.jpg (61.29 KB, 435x862, 435:862, DUBNPg9WAAAjvTj.jpg) (h) (u)

File (hide): d8ab07048c6e5f7⋯.jpg (47.54 KB, 368x392, 46:49, DkNHoWxW0AU2ODy.jpg) (h) (u)

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mcc...rt-filing-says
Future proves past.
News unlocks.
You have more than you know.
"….and House Speaker Paul Ryan’s chief of staff, John Burks."
When did Paul Ryan announce he was retiring?
Why would the Speaker of the House retire?
Age of Paul Ryan?
Sometimes reading between the lines demonstrates those complicit in treasonous / traitorous acts are no longer (or soon to be) in positions of power.
Forced?
R's easier to remove than D's?
D's holding on to power as long as possible hoping to sway pending action [cover]?
Think DECLAS.
Think SC.
………..
How many senior FBI & DOJ officials have been removed?
None left by choice.
Nothing To See Here.
Nothing is being done.
The Biggest 'ACCURATE' Conspiracy….
FAKE NEWS ATTACKS DEMONSTRATE WHAT?
Q

From https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/4392237.html#4392305

Q !!mG7VJxZNCI 12/20/18 (Thu) 11:38:58 1631ff (4) No.4392305

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...dition/538008/
Anons know why.
Q

From https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/4392237.html#4392356

Q !!mG7VJxZNCI 12/20/18 (Thu) 11:41:48 1631ff (4) No.4392356

https://twitter.com/FBI/status/1075760394210299904
Why would the FBI DIR take the time to visit ALL 56 FBI FIELD OFFICES around the entire United States?
Completed this week.
Logical thinking.
Q

From https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/4392237.html#4392646

Q !!mG7VJxZNCI 12/20/18 (Thu) 11:54:44 1631ff (4) No.4392646
File (hide): 7a01255320b1cf8⋯.jpg (61.29 KB, 435x862, 435:862, DUBNPg9WAAAjvTj.jpg) (h) (u)

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/mcc...rt-filing-says
"McCain associate shared unverified Steele dossier with Buzzfeed, court filing says."
Drop Dec 22 2017:
US SEN NO NAME>
NEWS SHOP>
BUZZF>
News unlocks.
You have the keystone.
Q

From https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/4392237.html#4392683

Q !!mG7VJxZNCI 12/20/18 (Thu) 11:56:00 1631ff (4) No.4392683

>>4392645 ... [[ Link to Nov 7 Q drop, above in Post #7656, stating there will be no recusal by Whittaker. ]]
Old news.
Q

From https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/4392915.html#4393450

Q !!mG7VJxZNCI 12/20/18 (Thu) 12:33:09 47ea0a (2) No.4393450

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dem...ican-roy-moore
The [D] party will cease to exist once it's all exposed.
FAKE NEWS can no longer control [dampen] public awareness of the TRUTH.
DARK TO LIGHT.
Q

From https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/4392915.html#4393668

Q !!mG7VJxZNCI 12/20/18 (Thu) 12:41:41 47ea0a (2) No.4393668

ALICE & MAD HATTER.
Q

[ThePythonicCow]

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Two more for December 20, 2018

From https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/4400640.html#4400956

Q !!mG7VJxZNCI 12/20/18 (Thu) 20:02:56 28b403 (2) No.4400956

Rogers departure. Intel.
Sessions departure. Law.
Kelly departure. Warfare/MIL
Mattis departure. Warfare/MIL
Notice a pattern?
Q

From https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/4400640.html#4401036

Q !!mG7VJxZNCI 12/20/18 (Thu) 20:05:49 28b403 (2) No.4401036

Chemical attack in Syria?
Public 'pull out' of troops in Syria….
History will not repeat itself this time.
Q

[ThePythonicCow]

Posted by Paul (here)
From https://8ch.net/qresearch/res/4400640.html#4400956

Q !!mG7VJxZNCI 12/20/18 (Thu) 20:02:56 28b403 (2) No.4400956

Rogers departure. Intel.
Sessions departure. Law.
Kelly departure. Warfare/MIL
Mattis departure. Warfare/MIL
Notice a pattern?
Q

Since all four of these men are officers in the U.S. military (even Jeff Sessions, who is an inactive U.S. Army Captain), therefore some of the anons on 8ch.net are speculating that these four men will serve on upcoming military tribunals of some of the prominent deep state actors being investigated and (we anons hope) soon to be prosecuted for high crimes and treasons against the U.S.

Many clues over the last year have suggested that some of the upcoming trials will be held under the U.S. military justice system, rather than under the more commonly used civilian judicial system.